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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:05:45 No.6223388 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>6223534 >>6223696 >>6223775 >>6223990

rabbit chasing 'moon'

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:11:48 No.6223534 Report

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>>6223388
Why is marine reclining

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:12:48 No.6223556 Report

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>3k live
did something happen with Kanon?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:12:58 No.6223561 Report

Quoted By: >>6223863

top views

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:15:59 No.6223631 Report

Quoted By: >>6223693

KFPs are crying over Kiara's birthday not being the top stream.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:17:01 No.6223649 Report

Quoted By: >>6230028

>>6223556
It was a zatsudan, apparently.

(>>6219445)
>will collab with Matsuri
What's her time to menhera again?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:19:04 No.6223693 Report

Quoted By: >>6223750 >>6225960

>>6223631
Kiara cares a lot about numbers which is actually a positive in my book. She tries the hardest out of all the holoENs. Maybe the others should follow her example.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:19:06 No.6223696 Report

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>>6223388
So tokyo ghoul won't stream when there are big names out for the day huh

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:20:45 No.6223727 Report

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>>6223534
>29k+
>marine reclining
??

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:21:33 No.6223750 Report

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>>6223693
If the others actually tried as hard as Kiara she'd be left in the dust. KFPs should be grateful they're mostly just winging it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:21:46 No.6223755 Report

Quoted By: >>6225846

Gura passed Mori on total views again. I think she will keep the lead on EN views until Mori releases new songs.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:22:12 No.6223766 Report

Quoted By: >>6223837 >>6223859 >>6223863 >>6223897 >>6224005 >>6224562 >>6224967

How does it feel knowing that this woman has completely ruined your numberfagging activities. All numbers now look worthless in comparison. How do you feel?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:23:01 No.6223775 Report

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>>6223388
I thought the PekoLuna collab peaked at around 71K?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:25:09 No.6223826 Report

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>dat photo finish moment

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:25:39 No.6223831 Report

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>>6223775
VNUMA

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:26:05 No.6223837 Report

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>>6223766
shes not appearing on daily charts so Im feeling nothing

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:27:11 No.6223859 Report

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>>6223766
Who?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:27:17 No.6223863 Report

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>>6223561
>>6223766

No more Coco mogging. It's over for me. My will to live has plummeted to zero. (༎ຶ ෴ ༎ຶ)

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:29:01 No.6223897 Report

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>>6223766
We won. You lost. Now leave these threads forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:29:29 No.6223908 Report

Quoted By: >>6223977

LiSA's husband debuted as a vtuber earlier. What kind of numbers do you think he'll pull?
https://youtu.be/X8-df3cMDxUt=428

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:32:44 No.6223977 Report

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>>6223908
Fixed the timestamp
https://youtu.be/X8-df3cMDxU?t=423

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:33:19 No.6223990 Report

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>>6223388
17 Holos
6 Nijis
1 vhojo
1 Hal

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:33:51 No.6224005 Report

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>>6223766
>How do you feel?

Honestly. After Coco completely flexed on the entire Vtuber industry. I think these threads should be rebranded to "Coco ft other inferior Vtubers" in honor of her unprecedented achievement.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:34:03 No.6224008 Report

Quoted By: >>6224337

>>6223977
WTF LiSA was married? This guy fucked my 3D Oshi?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:37:05 No.6224082 Report

Quoted By: >>6224184

Now with Kanae 6 of the top 8 most superchatted vtuber streams ever have been in the last 2 weeks with another barely over a month ago, will the madness ever end or is this the new normal?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:38:27 No.6224117 Report

Quoted By: >>6258010

>>6223534
>Why is marine reclining
Fact Check: she isn't.
>pic related
It's more than she's not reclining, it is that July 2021 will likely be the best month for her (numberwise) since Holostats started recording it.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:40:02 No.6224150 Report

Quoted By: >>6224269 >>6224350 >>6224386 >>6224675 >>6225284 >>6235475

Pikamee made her watch time public while appealing to YT on twitter over demonetization.

Total views: 20,369,402
Number of public videos: 471
Average views per video: 43,274
Average video length: 2 hours 43 minutes
Total watch time: 3,593,879 hours
Average watch time per video: 7,630 hours
Average watch time per view: 10.6 minutes

Make what you will of it.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:41:40 No.6224184 Report

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>>6224082
huh? can you show an updated ranking including today's stream?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:45:15 No.6224269 Report

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>>6224150
In this case Youtube alleges "reused content", something I only saw happening when clipniggers upload during streams or upload a share too large of the VOD.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:47:46 No.6224337 Report

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>>6224008
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2020-01-22/singer-lisa-voice-actor-tatsuhisa-suzuki-get-married/.155656

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:48:20 No.6224350 Report

Quoted By: >>6224508

>>6224150
>Average watch time per view: 10.6 minutes
What the fuck?

Also did Pikamee make bank? I know Gyari doesn't take any cut from the channel.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:49:39 No.6224386 Report

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>>6224150
>Average watch time per view: 10.6 minutes
This is actually falls in line with YouTube's recommended video length if you want to keep people engaged for most of a video. I'm impressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:55:14 No.6224508 Report

Quoted By: >>6224876

>>6224350
Her monetization got fixed quickly so it's not like she stopped making it. She made over $280k in supacha in a year so assuming that she doesn't have to give away most of it she is doing pretty well for herself as a chuuba outside of the big two. She doesn't do short videos with tons of views that are good for ad income though.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 18:57:42 No.6224562 Report

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>>6223766
>This is hololive without Coco. Watching hololive without Coco is like eating curry rice without using any plates. Completely baseless. No different from eating off the floor like pathetic Nijidogs.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:02:58 No.6224675 Report

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>>6224150
Not bad at all. But Roboko has better numbers overall. You know. Hololive should buy VOMS. Yeah Imagine a hololive gen themed after Monsters. It'll be called Hololive Monsters Gen3.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:08:30 No.6224835 Report

Quoted By: >>6225171 >>6225284 >>6230820 >>6231307 >>6231398 >>6258010

>Another chart with the full history of one of the Hologirls
This time, Ollie. Significant recline starting February 16, and seemingly for one reason: most of her streams in 2021 before that cutting points were Minecraft and collabs and Minecraft collabs.

Then in February 5 she fell for the APEX meme and she clearly lost focus. Here is all streams she got a peak over 5k in 2021

> 2021-02-04 : 5892,7045 / 【PHASMOPHOBIA COLLAB】AHOY GHOSTIES!!! 海賊とゾンビがやってきた!!!
> 2021-01-09 : 5842,6964 / 【MATSURI COLLAB • KEEP TALKING AND NOBODY EXPLODES】ボムは爆発しません!! ... 多分!!
> 2021-01-14 : 5270,6925 / 【MOONA COLLAB • MINECRAFT】 FIRST TIME IN SERVER! PLEASE GUIDE ME, MOONA-SIMPAI!
> 2021-01-22 : 3929,6784 / 【MINECRAFT】MAZE PROJECT AND ZOMBIE FARM IS A GO!!!
> 2021-06-14 : 4728,6576 / 3,14159
> 2021-01-17 : 4374,6471 / 【MINECRAFT】COLLECTING RESOURCES FOR ZOMBIE PROJECT!!
> 2021-04-05 : 4470,6403 / 【MINECRAFT】BUILDING STUFFS IN HOLOEN SERVER
> 2021-02-09 : 4189,6188 / 【MINECRAFT】 HOLY RADIANT MAZE OTW!!!!
> 2021-01-03 : 4295,6068 / 【MINECRAFT】LAST PLAYED ALIVE??? DOES OLLIE REMEMBER???
> 2021-02-23 : 2016,5995 / 【DONATION READING+FREETALK】CATCHING UP WITH SUPERS AND LABBIES!!!
> 2021-01-27 : 4341,5894 / 【KARAOKE】A SINGING ZOMBIE IDOL
> 2021-05-11 : 3383,5738 / 【MINECRAFT】WE ARE BACK!!!
> 2021-01-15 : 4412,5708 / 【MINECRAFT】ROAD TO ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE!!!
> 2021-01-29 : 4117,5480 / 【PHASMOPHOBIA COLLAB】DEATH, DEAD, AND UNDEADS--
> 2021-01-27 : 3694,5456 / 【MINECRAFT】KUREIJI KENSETSU WILL BE CONTINUING IT'S PROJECT!
> 2021-01-28 : 3764,5425 / 【MINECRAFT】IT WILL BE A-MAZE-ING!!!
> 2021-02-13 : 3590,5406 / 【MINECRAFT】CONTINUING THE MAZE
> 2021-03-30 : 3554,5264 / 【500K SPECIAL】THANK YOU!! ...A PROMISE IS A PROMISE...
> 2021-02-03 : 3402,5232 / 【MINECRAFT】 SO YEAH, KUREIJI KENSETSU--
> 2021-02-01 : 3568,5207 / 【MINECRAFT】TO RESOURCE SERVER WE GO!!!
> 2021-06-02 : 3471,5203 / 【RINGFIT ADVENTURE】GET IN SHAPE, OLLIE!!
> 2021-03-10 : 3095,5185 / 【APEX】HEHE BOI IT'S GACHA TIME
> 2021-04-13 : 3742,5171 / 【MINECRAFT】BUT IT'S ACTUALLY HOLOJP
> 2021-02-19 : 2586,5012 / 【PLUG AND PLAY】SO... WHAT EVEN IS THIS...?

It is not even rocket science to determine what her audience enjoys her streaming. The real question should be

>should a professional streamer benefit more from doing what they want or from doing what theri audience wants?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:09:52 No.6224876 Report

Quoted By: >>6225258

>>6224508
>Her monetization got fixed quickly
They fixed it already?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:13:39 No.6224967 Report

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>>6223766
I don't see her in the chart.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:22:18 No.6225171 Report

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>>6224835
It should be a balance. Botan mixes it fairly well. She would hold 2 streams where she just plays what she wants during lunch time and play something thay can numberfag in the evening. Subaru is the same. She holds two streams for her zatsu that is prime for both jp and en and then follow it with a game hours after.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:23:59 No.6225204 Report

Quoted By: >>6225376

Melody's CB stream completely dabbing on holofags lmao, but you'll never see that posted here.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:26:32 No.6225258 Report

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>>6224876
Yep, it was fixed in about 3 hours

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:27:36 No.6225284 Report

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>>6224835
>>6224150
This anon hard carrying the numbers thread with their graphs and analysis. Completely burying the massively coping/grieving tatsunoko. Thank you for your services anon-sama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:31:41 No.6225376 Report

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>>6225204
Why don't you post it anon? There are anons here that will literally jack off to numbers.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:51:54 No.6225846 Report

Quoted By: >>6230974

>>6223755
Gura has at least 4 more songs in the works too though. Mori doesn't stand a chance if Gura has both songs and vods.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:55:56 No.6225960 Report

Quoted By: >>6225983 >>6226034 >>6226675

>>6223693
That must suck to her.
She's good friends with Gura, Pekora and Mori, the number monsters of hololive, yet, she could barely reach a million views

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:56:58 No.6225983 Report

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>>6225960
subscribers*

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 19:58:32 No.6226034 Report

Quoted By: >>6226346 >>6226459

>>6225960
>Good friends with Pekora
Pekora barely akowledges her existance out of some weird sense of responsability she has.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:10:02 No.6226346 Report

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>>6226034
Why do you fill the numbers thread with lies?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:13:17 No.6226459 Report

Quoted By: >>6230504

>>6226034
It still baffles me that Kiara squandered her chance of being a full member of Usaken because she made one capital mistake right off the bat in her first visit
>Kiara demonstrated that she didn’t think Minecraft is real life and Minecraft friendship, real life friendship
Out of everything Pekora said so far about her IRL self she made abundantly clear that
>she’s pretty much a hikkikomori living in her room in her mom’s house
One can assume every relationship she has made was similar to PekoMoona, online communication in some fashion.

When Kiara COMPLETELY disregarded the world tour Pekora prepared for her and went straight to “teehee, isn’t it great that I can be your friend now after being your fan?!” she skipped all the steps Pekora would require for even be acquainted, let alone friendship.

In a very twisted road Botan of all people ended up taking the role Kiara could have had. It could have been KFP littering the whole MC server instead of Menya Botan.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:20:28 No.6226675 Report

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>>6225960
"barely a million subscriber" still put her well ahead of most vtubers even inside the company so I doubt she feeling that bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:20:39 No.6226679 Report

Quoted By: >>6226783 >>6233473

>>6224184
1. Kiryuu Coco graduation - 07/01/21 - $306,442
2. Fuwa Minato 3D debut - 06/04/21 - $147,612
3. Ibrahim 3D debut - 07/02/21 - $126,095
4. Shirayuki Tomoe 3D debut - 06/25/21 - $121,395
5. Suzuhara Lulu graduation - 06/30/21 - $96,342
6. Kagami Hayato 3D debut - 08/10/20 - $95,310
7. Kanae birthday - 07/07/21 - $82,145
8. Kiryuu Coco final zatsudan - 06/30/21 - $75,355
9. Saegusa Akina 3D debut - 12/25/20 - $72,864
10. Kuzuha birthday - 11/10/20 - $65,248
11. Houshou Marine 1 million subs - 01/18/21 - $64,077
12. Uruha Rushia 1 million subs - 03/02/21 - $63,006
13. Kusunoki Sio 3D debut - 06/19/20 - $61,852
14. Mori Calliope birthday - 04/04/21 - $55,553
15. Kiryuu Coco first superchat reading after announcing graduation - 06/11/21 - $53,967
16. Kiryuu Coco monetization - 02/11/20 - $52,158
17. Momosuzu Nene 3D debut - 04/17/21 - $51,865
18. Gawr Gura birthday - 06/20/21 - $51,265
19. Nijisanji Unit Music Festival (on Rindou Mikoto's channel) - 12/29/20 - $50,602
20. Kiryuu Coco 3D debut - 06/27/20 - $49,996
21. Otogibara Era graduation - 03/10/21 - $49,525
22. Fuwa Minato birthday - 04/17/21 - $49,205
23. Natsuiro Matsuri Apex gacha - 11/28/20 - $48,485
24. Usada Pekora 1 million subs - 12/04/20 - $48,178
25. Amane Kanata 3D debut - 07/05/20 - $47,322

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:23:46 No.6226783 Report

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>>6226679
>23. Natsuiro Matsuri Apex gacha - 11/28/20 - $48,485
Out of all of these this one right here is the craziest and funniest and least expected one

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:46:19 No.6227437 Report

Quoted By: >>6230567

>Ayame
Among other things she must truly be blessed by the algorithm

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 20:52:46 No.6227604 Report

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>>6223696
yeah, he is a faggot

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 21:06:04 No.6227982 Report

Quoted By: >>6230113 >>6230720 >>6231398 >>6243449 >>6243556

>1st - Moona - 749k
>2nd - Ollie - 681k
>3rd - Risu - 479k
>4th - Reine - 423k
>5th - Lofi - 404k
>6th - Anya - 336k
I don't have numbers for active livestreaming, so I can't be sure of how dead some of these subscribers are, but where does the difference in subs comes from?
It can't just be momentum for the second generation can it, since Moona is able to lead the pack.
Are the overlapping or are they grabbing different audiences?
I know Moona and Ollie prefer to speak english, so is that where the difference lies?
Is it activity and Risu refusing to karaoke?
Closer association with Japanese senpais?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:19:26 No.6230028 Report

Quoted By: >>6230242

>>6223649
Yes, zatudan. She privates them. She said yesterday that she was going to play apex and then do a zatsudan but she ended up not being able to do both. She also doesn't tweet out her schedule so this has been bad for my suimin.

Obviously not as impressive as her last zd following which peaked at like 12k or something but 4k is incredibly solid all things considered. There's still a lot of hype but I think things are cooling down which makes today's zd a more accurate indicator of what her core fanbase is like.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:21:52 No.6230113 Report

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>>6227982
people keep coming a letting a sub despite not watching her streams, personally I didnt know about Moona until her collab with Pekora

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:27:06 No.6230242 Report

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>>6230028
I giver her a month to stabilize her numbers

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:36:11 No.6230504 Report

Quoted By: >>6233003

>>6226459
Pekora has come around to liking Kiara I think. She talks about her and makes an effort to include her in JP Minecraft stuff in a way I wouldn't have thought likely 6 months ago. I think Kiara getting over her case of hero worship/Pekora fangirl kayfabe was what it took to make Peko less weirded out.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:38:35 No.6230567 Report

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>>6227437
My youtube is almost nothing but vtubers and Hololive and I don't think I've once been recommended an Ayame stream, VOD, or clip, unless you include Hologra or that one time she collab'd with Marine.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:43:13 No.6230720 Report

Quoted By: >>6241852

>>6227982
Moona- Minecraft/Pekora buff, has subs from Indogs, Japs, and ENs
Ollie- People make fun of her cultivating the western zoomer/eceleb crowd but it's paid off for her in subs, in addition to her design getting a lot of initial interest
Risu-mostly dead subs from the nut meme
Reine-normal growth curve, some early interest from people but crippled by largely boring content choices
lofi-normal growth, never had a hook to make anyone interested in her
anya-the floor for what being a female in hololive will get you

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:47:11 No.6230820 Report

Quoted By: >>6231226 >>6231399 >>6231799 >>6258010

>>6224835
Here is one for Ina. Massive recent incline, very humorously propelled by
>having overslept
It gave her enough momentum to both pass Kiara in subs and beat her to 1M and to have a massive birthday stream with all the recent interest in her caused by that almost missed stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:52:31 No.6230968 Report

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Post total SC numba

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 22:52:43 No.6230974 Report

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>>6225846
Mori will be releasing 3 more songs apparently?
I don't know much about the details though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:02:04 No.6231226 Report

Quoted By: >>6231399 >>6231799

>>6230820
I don't knopw who has more control of their viewer count than Ina, because she can pull people in with drawing and monster hunter, but also push people away Rice Game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:05:09 No.6231307 Report

Quoted By: >>6231799

>>6224835
Just like the other anons said,
a balance meal is a healthy diet.
It takes more time to schedule and prepare the contents,
but it's worth it in the long run.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:08:16 No.6231398 Report

Quoted By: >>6231636 >>6233866

>>6227982
I probably can't help you as much as the graph anon on >>6224835 but I can give some bit of insights into it. Hope graph anon can help you later.
Difference in subs usually come from :
>1.Generations
The latter the generation, the more they will get the jumpstart subs. This usually rings true for company Vtubers because they already got the exposure for being the Vtuber of that particular company even without doing anything yet. See IRyS from yesterday for another example of this.
>2.Design
This factor also mainly only influence the jumpstart subs. Without them having doing anything yet this is the only thing* that potential fan could use to see whether they're attracted to the particular Vtuber or not.
>2*.Past life (roommate)
Usually after debut stream (sometimes even before it) those who are skilled enough in stalking will find who's the one playing that Vtuber avatar, and what shenanigans have they done in the past. Most of the time this will end up as a buff in jumpstart subs since if you're a fan of their roommate then most likely you will still be a fan even after they don the Vtuber model. A rare exception here is Mano Aloe, whose past life made her graduate instead.
>3.Voice
This factor can both be a buff or a nerf on Vtubers' debut stream. Some people might not like their design that much but if they have pretty sexy voice then you can just not look at them and enjoy their voice. On the other hand you might like the design of this one Vtuber but somehow their voice filters you pretty hard.
>4.Self-made contents
Now after all the jumpstart subs from debut stream, this one determine whether they could rake in subs consistently or not. Pretty self-explanatory factor.
>5.Interaction with others
Collabs and stuff. Although this probably only give a significant buff to Hololive Vtubers with their family theme or solidarity or whatever it is they're calling it since Gen 3 debut.

Now that the contributing factors are laid down, let's analyze all of them. I will only do it for point 1, 4, and 5 though since 2, 2* and 3 are subjective.
- Moona : 1st gen, not many self-made contents (except Minecraft), exploded in popularity after collabs with Ame and Gura (JP server tour) and Pekora (Usaken).
- Ollie : 2nd gen, decent self-made contents (with loadshit of Apex), minimal collabs with HoloJP but a lot with others (Holostars, etc).
- Risu : 1st gen, bunch of self-made contents (short clips), few to no collabs with other Vtubers.
- Reine : 2nd gen, decent self-made contents, decent collabs with other Holo Vtubers.
- Iofi : 1st gen, decent self-made contents (a lot of drawing streams), decent collabs with other Vtubers.
- Anya : 2nd gen, not many self-made contents (except DbD), few collabs with other Holo Vtubers.
Lastly, this probably only applies to HoloJP/ID/EN, but Minecraft stream matters. A lot. The lowest 2 don't stream Minecraft much (does Anya even play it?).

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:08:18 No.6231399 Report

Quoted By: >>6232102

>>6231226
>but also push people away Rice Game.
Or the Wonderful 101.

>>6230820
Do you mind looking at the chart for Ame to see if she's having a recent incline/decline? It seems like her odd game choices stabilize around 8k to 10k nowadays and when she does Minecraft/Apex, it goes up to around 12-14k so I'm wondering if there's any chance she becomes a consistent ~12k streamer again. She does a lot of pure superchat reading streams and watchalongs tho which might fuck up the data a bit.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:17:38 No.6231636 Report

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>>6231398
>but Minecraft stream matters. A lot. The lowest 2 don't stream Minecraft much (does Anya even play it?).
For real, I think Minecraft is the backbone of Hololive (maybe replaced by ARK for a while), like how Apex is for Kuzuha and a lot of Nijis. It's a buff game for like literally every Holo and it's the only consistent game for HoloID to get around 3k+ viewers. I can see why some IDs might be hesitant to play it because you need a goal for a minecraft stream or else you're just pointlessly wandering around, but not playing it leaves you in the dust. Even big holomems like Miko and Watame lose like 40% of their usual numbers playing another game.

>this probably only applies to HoloJP/ID/EN
I think it buffs NijiJP, but NijiEN's numbers are always in the 1-2k range so I'm not sure if it's a significant buff for them.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:23:20 No.6231799 Report

Quoted By:

>>6230820
>>6231307
>>6231226
>I don't knopw who has more control of their viewer count than Ina
That's quite true, here is the list of all of her 15k+ peak viewers this year

>2021-05-05 :: 63228/90965 :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】 The Joy of Tako #fashionINAsta
>2021-02-07 :: 35343/40850 :: 【COLLAB】 Let's Draw with HoloEN!
>2021-05-20 :: 33405/38020 :: Birthday YAY!!!! #BirthdayINA2021
>2021-06-11 :: 23877/27662 :: 【COLLAB】 Playing games with Pikamee!!!
>2021-02-26 :: 20096/24032 :: 【KARAOKE】 Tako Sings
>2021-05-12 :: 21107/23573 :: 【COLLAB】 Battle of Doot ft. Calli
>2021-01-27 :: 20798/22934 :: 【Clubhouse 51】 3-Way Chess
>2021-05-18 :: 18090/22137 :: 【Minecraft】 Alexa Play Ungravel
>2021-01-08 :: 18339/20470 :: 【Ring Fit Adventure】 PAIN
>2021-06-03 :: 15229/18440 :: 【Miitopia】 Making Mii-ni HoloEN!!!
>2021-06-15 :: 16373/17810 :: 【TTRPG】 Meet Yuul B. Alwright TUTORIAL EDITION
>2021-06-29 :: 13994/17334 :: 【Minecraft】 INA Search for INAspiration
>2021-01-04 :: 15114/17023 :: 【Lobotomy Corporation】 Trust Me I'm a Doctor!
>2021-01-16 :: 14151/16916 :: 【COLLAB】 51 Haachamas Around The World!!!
>2021-06-21 :: 14159/16582 :: 【NIGHT DELIVERY】 Your TakoEats Courier is On Their Way
>2021-01-12 :: 14262/16063 :: 【Minecraft】 Head Empty No Thoughts
>2021-06-14 :: 13151/15433 :: 【DRAWING】 The Name is Yuul B. Alwright
>2021-01-01 :: 13124/15102 :: 【CHAT】 Resolutions & Goals for the New Year!!

It's a well balanced mix of collabs, drawing, Minecraft, gaming and special events.
Ina clearly takes streaming in a very professional manner, exactly like (for instance) Pekora

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:25:50 No.6231883 Report

Quoted By: >>6232660

I will remind them

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:29:05 No.6231971 Report

Quoted By: >>6232192 >>6232333 >>6233448

Current update on IRyS numbers:
>Youtube subs: 170k
>Twitter followers 143k
She's definitely slowed down from yesterday's insane pace. I think she'll start to normalize in the coming days so I'll stick with my prediction of 200k-250k for now. I'm actually more interested on what her debut numbers would be. I think Botan had the highest debut in Hololive history at 114k(?). This was of course pre-HoloEN boom so I could easily see a 130k-150k debut for her considering this would be a lot newfags first proper EN debut.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:34:15 No.6232102 Report

Quoted By: >>6234149 >>6236140 >>6248251 >>6258010

>>6231399
>Do you mind looking at the chart for Ame to see if she's having a recent incline/decline?
Good incline since mid May, in line with Ina and Hololive in general and the English branch in particular.
New outfits really gave a new life to HoloEN, here are all streams over 15k peak viewers for Ame

>2021-05-07 :: 71640/101843 : 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】The Detective is a SPY! | OUTFIT HYPE!!!!! #glAMErous
>2021-01-07 :: 32577/41080 :: 【BIRTHDAY STREAM】CAKE + a Special Announcement
>2021-05-29 :: 27746/33879 :: 【Mario Party】Will our friendship survive...????
>2021-02-05 :: 21309/27428 :: 【FANMADE GAME】Smol Ame!!
>2021-05-16 :: 24154/26815 :: 【The Fish Tank】Gura and Ame~
>2021-05-08 :: 20672/23994 :: 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Ski-bi dibby dib yo da dub dub
>2021-01-07 :: 16018/21396 :: 【Minecraft】Birthday Minecraft!
>2021-06-13 :: 18436/21236 :: 【LIVE WATCHALONG】Todd...
>2021-01-20 :: 15801/20606 :: 【Princess Connect: Re Dive】GLOBAL LAUNCH! Playing my FIRST gacha ever!
>2021-07-05 :: 16461/20021 :: 【UNARCHIVED】Let's Sing!
>2021-06-20 :: 15195/19318 :: 【VR】First Time playing Half-Life: Alyx
>2021-01-05 :: 12047/18650 :: 【Cooking Simulator】Cheftective~
>2021-02-03 :: 14724/18460 :: 【COLLAB】Reine x Ame SERVER TOUR #SaltedTurkey
>2021-06-05 :: 14712/18030 :: 【CHARITY STREAM】9 Hour of Fun for Animals! PLAYING BPM
>2021-06-22 :: 16120/17308 :: 【TTRPG】wᴀtotoRJᴀM (W.o.D. Tutorial Session w/ Calli!)
>2021-07-06 :: 13809/17158 :: 【3DVR】Sometimes I Dream about Smol Ame
>2021-02-14 :: 14151/16911 :: 【VALENTINES】W-will you...?
>2021-06-27 :: 13273/16288 :: 【UNARCHIVED】Guerilla Potato Karaoke Practice~
>2021-03-03 :: 12147/15661 :: 【COLLAB】SUPA BUNNY MAN w/ Kiara! #ametori
>2021-01-22 :: 11830/15038 :: 【COLLAB】Keep fricking Talking and NO BIRD will explode

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:38:02 No.6232192 Report

Quoted By: >>6232288 >>6232305

>>6231971
nah, 100k unless there's some kind of clickbait

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:41:54 No.6232288 Report

Quoted By: >>6232377 >>6232494

>>6232192
A Pekora - Luna Club51 collab today pulled 71k. 100k is underselling, a debut is watched by fans and tourists alike

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:42:35 No.6232305 Report

Quoted By:

>>6232192
100k for the first "EN gen" AFTER Holomyth? No way anon. The teaser thing topped at 50k and we weren't even 100% sure that it was for this. IRyS getting a 100k only would be a dissapointment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:43:39 No.6232333 Report

Quoted By:

>>6231971
At least half of her subs will watch her live debut.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:45:37 No.6232377 Report

Quoted By:

>>6232288
This was well planned.
Marine said that even she finds it difficult to collab with Pekora, because everything has to be perfect. No half-assing it.
Which means that Pekora must have exacting standards, because Marine is a pro at that. E.g. her stream with Ayame that was exactly an hour long. Enough leeway for the ad-hoc banter, but the script was spot on.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:49:44 No.6232478 Report

Quoted By: >>6232674 >>6233715

I think it's safe to say that Minecraft is a buff game for Qpi, over Apex.
Even though she's streaming the night shift, from midnight to 9AM.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:50:27 No.6232494 Report

Quoted By: >>6233067

>>6232288
A fucking club51 collab, a debuff game. Rabbit knows her numbers more than we do here.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:57:42 No.6232660 Report

Quoted By:

>>6231883
Bling Bling

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Anonymous Wed 07 Jul 2021 23:58:17 No.6232674 Report

Quoted By:

>>6232478
Minecraft is a buff game for everyone. That's why Pekora, the numberfag is obsessed with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:12:58 No.6233003 Report

Quoted By:

>>6230504
Not really. Pekora rarely brings up Kiara at all with the couple of exceptions when it was about Pekoland, the Summer festival and recent idea to collab with EN and "use" Kiara as a translator. Pekora building a house on the Holoserver was a very last minute idea for a stream so I wouldn't be too sure to put that into the category "planned birthday present". Very iffy. Pekora might have given Kiara another try and check how she is by now but Pekora didn't seem to have such a great time when she called in. Pekora calling into a stream would have been a rare case but just yesterday she called into Choco's stream as well, robbing this special occasion where people might have gone "uhhh, she calls in on this stream but not on any others."

> effort to include her in JP Minecraft stuff
In Pekoland, it was chat who spammed her name for Pekora to react; in the summer festival, everyone was free to build something. I don't recall a single time where Pekora out of her own shell inviting Kiara to do something in Minecraft. Enlighten me please.

Kiara more or less forced herself into Usaken by crying on stream and begging Pekora to get in. Kiara got along with Moona(which was Pekora's requirement to Kiara) so Kiara got accepted. Kiara is kinda the intern everyone forgets exists.

Members in Usaken want to build stuff in Minecraft together. Kiara just wants to collab more with Pekora.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:15:40 No.6233067 Report

Quoted By: >>6233642

>>6232494
Eh, Is it really a debuff game? I think club51's easy to watch for a collab game same as Minecraft. A debuff collab game would be something like mariokart because of the split view. Are there any buff collab games that holos can play?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:30:36 No.6233448 Report

Quoted By: >>6233800

>>6231971
200k+. if shark can pull 194k, irys can

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:31:57 No.6233473 Report

Quoted By: >>6234394

>>6226679
coco is multiple times on this list. really puts into perspective how much of a paypig her fans are.
she might not be the most popular, but she always makes bank

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:37:39 No.6233618 Report

Quoted By:

Uh... numbersbros?!
How can this be happening?!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:38:28 No.6233642 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233067
The one that influences how many viewers are coming to a collab stream is perspective. For games like Clubhouse51 or Mario Party, they can just have 1 person open up a frame since what all others are doing and talking are reflected clearly even when they don't open up a frame themselves, allowing the viewers to concentrate on that single frame, thus higher individual viewers count.
A 'debuff' to individual viewers count, but 'buff' to total viewers count would be games where every perspective matters, so something like Mario Kart where viewers want to see what each individual players are doing, or something like the past ARK Lava Golem raid since the split teams went into their own way, thus making viewers wanting to watch all of them but forced to stick with their favorite at least until they die or resort to watching the VOD instead.
Something like the Minecraft Sports Festival kinda fall in between those two categories. Perspectives are split into 4 people but essentially both them and the viewers are watching the exact same thing all the time, the only difference being what they're talking in each groups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:41:40 No.6233715 Report

Quoted By: >>6234087 >>6234272

>>6232478
Who is she anon? I just found out about Kanon and now we have a Qpi?
Or is this a niji?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:44:27 No.6233800 Report

Quoted By: >>6233968 >>6234112 >>6234347

>>6233448
HoloEN debuted when Reddit was still small (100k+), the western fanbase grew since then (450k current). 60k-80k CCV too. and also irys at 200k subs now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:46:47 No.6233866 Report

Quoted By:

>>6231398
Anya has never played Minecraft onscreen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:50:22 No.6233968 Report

Quoted By: >>6234736 >>6237444

>>6233800
She jumped massively since the last time I looked. She was going up a few k per hour then the next time I looked it went from 168k to 200k. Either Youtube gave back some of the "vetted" subs or the news just hit some forum, news site or social media place that was ignorant of it before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:54:39 No.6234087 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233715
take a closer look anon, those are not live viewers, those are total views, and pretty low. Shes from some virtual esports project thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:55:31 No.6234112 Report

Quoted By: >>6234250 >>6236654 >>6236896

>>6233800
Interestingly enough. The Nijisanji reddit didn't experience any kind of explosive growth even after being officially recognized by anycolor or even after NijiEn's debut. I was almost certain that it would be on its way to being the 2nd biggest vtuber hub for redditfags but r/virtual youtubers who barely gets 1/5th of the traffic that r/Hololive does and hasn't even gotten past 100k remains the de facto 2nd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 00:56:53 No.6234149 Report

Quoted By:

>>6232102
>incline
>the English branch
even kiara

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:00:28 No.6234250 Report

Quoted By: >>6234586 >>6237382 >>6247545 >>6248065

>>6234112
Because the retarded ironic weebs are all holobronies. Nijifans tend to be JSLs and naturally prefer the Japanese branches and have no need to post on reddit.

Honestly even on this board, the main niji thread is dead except during asian hours because most of us are japanese residents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:01:19 No.6234272 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233715
Qpi is a Master-ranked Apex player under VSPO although she doesn't belong to a specific division (Lupinus, Iris Black, Cattleya Regina) just like recent recruit Yakumo Beni.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:03:25 No.6234347 Report

Quoted By: >>6234395

>>6233800
I like how their VOD indicate their popularity, Ina is a bit ahead of Kiara.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:04:45 No.6234394 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233473
>she might not be the most popular, but she always makes bank
It really depends on the SC culture of the fanbase. For example, Botan would beat pre-graudation Coco pretty handily on most streams excluding the weekly reddit review. Botan actually beats like 60% of holomems IIRC, but she has one of the lowest SC numbers in Holo by far. I think Rushia makes more supas in a chat stream than Botan does in a whole month.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:04:47 No.6234395 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234347
o nice catch

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:04:48 No.6234399 Report

Quoted By: >>6235031 >>6236528 >>6237580 >>6239330 >>6247905

Today's superchats

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:09:02 No.6234586 Report

Quoted By: >>6234690 >>6234750 >>6248016

>>6234250
niji seaniggers lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:11:12 No.6234690 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234586
Yeah people who speak Japanese.
Shocking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:12:12 No.6234736 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233968
Holy fuck... Welp, there goes my prediction. This girl might actually debut with 300k subs without saying a single word. I wonder how many 2views and Vtweeter TBA's are seething right now after getting mogged by this much.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:12:28 No.6234750 Report

Quoted By: >>6235303 >>6248016

>>6234586
you thought no one would notice you didn't put the search term for hololive there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:18:01 No.6235031 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234399
kanae bday
gaku wrapping up the pachinko tournament
shibuhal birthday and 3D stream
furen talking about a break and mental health
himashokudo 3D, yomaru birthday and new outfit announcement

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:25:13 No.6235303 Report

Quoted By: >>6235391

>>6234750
>US: 4%
>Canada: 6%
>UK: 5%
>Aus: 3%
>NZ: 0%
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH LITERALLY WHO THEN FUCKING VSHOJO THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT NIJI SEANIGGER

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:26:52 No.6235391 Report

Quoted By:

>>6235303
Are you perhaps lost?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:28:31 No.6235475 Report

Quoted By:

>>6224150
>Average watch time per view: 10.6 minutes
Muh vod views

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:40:22 No.6236140 Report

Quoted By:

>>6232102
got these for all the EN girls?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:48:33 No.6236528 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234399
>Carro Pino in 2nd for superchats
What the hell even happened?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:51:14 No.6236654 Report

Quoted By: >>6237602 >>6238433

>>6234112
Because nijisanji fucking sucks at overseas promotion. They have literally done nothing with the sub other than the initial announcement and the teaser for nijien, which as we all know failed to make that big of a splash. Compare that to hololive who basically use thier subreddit as a western focused prtimes.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 01:56:28 No.6236896 Report

Quoted By: >>6237602 >>6249397

>>6234112
Iirc they made it so r/Nijisanji doesn't show up to r/all

So unless you specifically search for tge subreddit, you won't see any of their posts. A lot of Hololive follows came from r/anime and other adjacent subreddits who saw cute anime girls and liked it enough to check it out. Gura herself was spammed to almost every anime meme subreddit during her reveal but Lazulight (to my knowledge) wasn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:07:04 No.6237382 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234250
YWNBJ

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:08:33 No.6237444 Report

Quoted By:

>>6233968
She would get more sub then this if someone like coco promoted her on her asacoco show. All coco has to do is joke about her being the offspring of towa and kanata on the show and she would easily reached 300-400k before debut but in return people would spam her ass on debut about the “rumor”.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:11:35 No.6237580 Report

Quoted By: >>6237809 >>6249492 >>6249507

>>6234399
At this point I have to ask, who the fuck is going to be rushia rival in super chat from now on? She is pretty much guaranteed to dominate this list from now on. Any candidate that can even challenge her at this point? With the way thing are going the gap between #1 and #2 each month is going to be huge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:11:58 No.6237602 Report

Quoted By: >>6251831

>>6236654
>>6236896
I just looked up the Niji sub and there's posts on there complaining about how ANYCOLOR (well, Ichikara back then) was handling the sub. There were basically no official announcement threads for big events, the livers rarely interacted with the sub like Marine/Kanata do, and those that did were like 3rd/4th tier livers with ~1k viewers. Not sure if these issues are fixed, but they don't really know how to cultivate a western following.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:17:04 No.6237809 Report

Quoted By: >>6238376

>>6237580
Probably none bar the possibility that she get involved in a severe yab that could make even the most diehard fandead stop being her ATM machine, which is pretty unlikely anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:29:41 No.6238376 Report

Quoted By:

>>6237809
mafumafu discord sex leak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:31:12 No.6238433 Report

Quoted By: >>6238642

>>6236654
You can blame NJ management but Hololive did barely anything to promote themselves to EN. It was pure luck, they launched EN branch when eops already were strongly into their JP scene.

Holos just had more meme-worthy content == more clips == clipfags and brand recognition. It was not planned, luck + their talents were good at comedy. Niji's content are less eops friendly.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:36:18 No.6238642 Report

Quoted By: >>6251831

>>6238433
I mean tbf, Cover does do the bare minimum for their subreddit but at least talents like Coco and Marine pushed for active content creation with her Reddit meme reviews and contests. They also didnt shoot themselves in the foot by locking away the subreddit from people who might be interested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 02:51:55 No.6239330 Report

Quoted By: >>6239804

>>6234399
hal is cute

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:03:36 No.6239804 Report

Quoted By: >>6242063

>>6239330
true

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:08:49 No.6240052 Report

Quoted By: >>6240118

>Endless flaming between holojp and holoen fans
>Japanese fans drowning in gaijin retards spamming chat.
>"wtf is Niji management thinking??? lmao"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:10:08 No.6240118 Report

Quoted By: >>6245275

>>6240052
Who are you quoting?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:10:56 No.6240154 Report

Quoted By: >>6240790

It probably won't last, but it's been around 10 mins of Gura reading superchats/post-stream chat and she's still maintaining ~17k viewers. I don't think I've seen her keep this many after a stream in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:24:01 No.6240790 Report

Quoted By:

>>6240154
Her previous stream (night delivery) is the same. It's just that she doesn't read SC that often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:45:10 No.6241852 Report

Quoted By: >>6242397

>>6230720
>Ollie
If anything it kills her initial viewerbase because the new subs she's cultivating does not watch her. Her Apex addiction also kills her channel a lot faster than it should.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:49:13 No.6242063 Report

Quoted By:

>>6239804
king

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 03:56:12 No.6242397 Report

Quoted By:

>>6241852
Dead subs are a meme and there's no real disadvantage to having them unless you're Kizuna AI level of having 1% of your subs look at your uploads. Having a big subcount boosts your exposure which does lead to more potential viewers. Ollie gets 3-4k viewers doing her best streams, which is monstrous compared to other ID vtubers. Her channel is far from dying.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 04:17:54 No.6243449 Report

Quoted By: >>6243555

>>6227982
peak median views from when holoID started to now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 04:20:04 No.6243555 Report

Quoted By:

>>6243449
Iofi...

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 04:20:06 No.6243556 Report

Quoted By: >>6245461 >>6246416

>>6227982
peak median views from when holoID started to now.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 04:39:31 No.6244495 Report

Quoted By: >>6244649

GFE works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 04:43:20 No.6244649 Report

Quoted By:

>>6244495
fuwa girlfriend...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:00:33 No.6245275 Report

Quoted By:

>>6240118
The voices in his head. Leave him be, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:04:04 No.6245377 Report

Quoted By: >>6245460 >>6245956

One Million Club

1. Gura (Oct 22, 2020)
2. Korone (Nov 1, 2020)
3. Fubuki (Nov 5, 2020)
4. Pekora (Dec 4, 2020)
5. Aqua (Jan 13, 2021)
6. Marine (Jan 18, 2021)
7. Calli (Jan 25, 2021)
8. Haachama (Feb 10, 2021)
9. Amelia (Feb 11, 2021)
10. Coco (Feb 17, 2021)
11. Rushia (Mar 2, 2021)
12. Noel (Apr 12, 2021)
13. Okayu (Apr 17, 2021)
14. Miko (Apr 30, 2021)
15. Ina (May 27, 2021)
16. Kiara (May 30, 2021)
17. Matsuri (Jun 1, 2021)
18. Suisei (Jun 26, 2021)
19. Subaru (Jul 2, 2021)
20. Ayame (Jul 7, 2021)

Upcoming (over 900k):
21. Watame
22. Kanata

====

Two Million Club

1. Gura (Jan 18, 2021)

====

Three Million Club

1. Gura (July 4, 2021)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:07:15 No.6245460 Report

Quoted By:

>>6245377
4 million club
1. Gura (December 31st, 2021)

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:07:16 No.6245461 Report

Quoted By: >>6246266

>>6243556
Thank you for the numbers, Anon.
Interesting. Kinda crazy how even lofi was doing better than Moona before the Pekoboost came in.
Also IIRC, I believe I can attribute the debut buff for Ollie at the start, like Reine, but afterwards she retained that momentum by collabing with Japanese senpais as soon as possible. Now she seems to be setting into a 2.5k average, which seems healthy considering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:25:17 No.6245956 Report

Quoted By: >>6251117

>>6245377
>Gura (July 4, 2021)
God bless America
God bless Gawr Gura

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:37:24 No.6246266 Report

Quoted By: >>6246644 >>6248820

>>6245461
Before Pekomoon, Moona was in this awkward limbo where she doesn't really appeal to anyone. Her japanese is nonexistent, her english is pretty terrible, and her fucking Indonesian is not even that good. There's a lot of dead air whenever she tries to speak and she doesn't fill any niche as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:42:51 No.6246416 Report

Quoted By: >>6246560 >>6246933 >>6247346 >>6247576 >>6250911

>>6243556
name a bigger leech than moona

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:48:09 No.6246560 Report

Quoted By: >>6247270

>>6246416
Kiara

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 05:51:38 No.6246644 Report

Quoted By:

>>6246266
>her english is pretty terrible
But that's cute though.
desu though you're right. She also had a great singing ability which she proceeded to kneecap by only doing FUCKING ACAPELLAS. It seems she got all her shit in order after starting Minecraft

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:02:40 No.6246933 Report

Quoted By: >>6247270

>>6246416
Kiara

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:17:16 No.6247270 Report

Quoted By: >>6247776

>>6246560
>>6246933
Kiara is not a leech

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:20:38 No.6247346 Report

Quoted By: >>6247824

>>6246416
Toko Inui. Leeches off of Gibara, Lize, Ange and Suisei. She's basically the Kanata of Nijisanji.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:29:31 No.6247545 Report

Quoted By: >>6247693 >>6247928

>>6234250
I know SEA niggers desperately want to be Japanese. But this is just pathetic. When people here say that Niji fans are elitists who only want want the pure Japanese experience, I had my doubts. Not anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:30:52 No.6247576 Report

Quoted By: >>6247827

>>6246416
Kanata

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:35:59 No.6247693 Report

Quoted By: >>6247975 >>6248025 >>6249729

>>6247545
I don't know what that guy is even talking about because ALL Niji threads are dead as fuck on this board during JP primetime

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:38:13 No.6247752 Report

Quoted By: >>6247831 >>6247955

>>6223696
he literally beat the usaken festival

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:39:12 No.6247776 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247270
Literally the first thing she did was set up an arc where she could leech off Pekora in her debut stream by pretending to be a huge fan. Kiara dropped peko like a bag of shit when she realised Peko is repulsed by her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:41:30 No.6247824 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247346
Toko is good friends with Suisei even before being Toko. Lize and Ange are her genmates so obviously they will do more stuff together because they get along well. Is it even leeching if you're in the same company? I mean it's already a given that you are going to interact with these people. Only proper leeching are people begging on Twitter for collabs or cosntatly putting your channel links on every comment you make in any platform

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:41:31 No.6247827 Report

Quoted By: >>6247865 >>6247996

>>6247576
No. Kanata sadly had the misfortune of being in the same gen as Kiryu Coco. Literally every member that collabed or interacted with Coco was branded a Leach. She was the Gura of that time. But unlike Gura, Coco had unmatched leadership qualities. Legit a trailblazer that had Nijifaggots tuning in to her streams. Salary man loved her. Young adults adored her. And people here might not know this but that faggot Narukami is a closeted Coco fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:41:39 No.6247831 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247752
he didn't stream for 2 days. they're doing chronoir shit which requires him moving around which destroys his frail 80 year old body

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:43:17 No.6247865 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247827
>closeted Coco fan.
He's openly a holofan though.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:44:37 No.6247905 Report

Quoted By: >>6247960

>>6234399
it pays to be the best boy.
>nothing planned
>just talks about his overlay
>82k

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:45:29 No.6247928 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247545
it's just one guy who spouted shits like holobronies every time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:46:28 No.6247955 Report

Quoted By: >>6249546

>>6247752
Why is this relevant? Kuzuha brought in normie shit to it. He is literally not even the most popular person in there. Usaken festival is pure vtuber. You can give him a win but you can't compare it. The Usaken relay btw had 76k with it's peak on Pekora

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:46:35 No.6247960 Report

Quoted By: >>6247994

>>6247905
>nothing planned
he was talking about having a new superchat overlay in the works beforehand, but of course you wouldn't know because you don't watch him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:47:14 No.6247975 Report

Quoted By: >>6248126

>>6247693
When I watch anything related to Nijisanji I don't post on this board. In fact I rarely interact with other nijifans. Why? They never seem to be interested in the same thing I am. I'm sure that is because of the volume of people more than anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:47:53 No.6247994 Report

Quoted By: >>6254096

>>6247960
He didn't do anything special and still mogged everyone's birthday. Even Coco.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:48:00 No.6247996 Report

Quoted By: >>6248055 >>6248114

>>6247827
>that faggot Narukami is a closeted Coco fan.
The guy spreads baseless propaganda for a living and his fans eat it up. If he is a Coco fan then he wouldn't be spreading that Zhang nonsense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:48:45 No.6248016 Report

Quoted By:

>>6234750
>>6234586
Why do people maintain the fiction Nijisanji is more popular in SEA? /jp/ rejects of SEAniggers discord?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:49:00 No.6248025 Report

Quoted By: >>6248065

>>6247693
you get 100-200 ips per thread, do you even realize how fucking insignificant 200 people is in a global sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:50:27 No.6248055 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247996
>implying he didn't get his info directly from Coco herself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:50:49 No.6248065 Report

Quoted By: >>6248095

>>6248025
Look at >>6234250
>the main niji thread is dead except during asian hours because most of us are japanese residents.
He's obviously larping so I was mentioning that. I'm on an inverted sleep schedule and those threads are sleepy unless a big event is happening, even if everyone in Nijisanji is live

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:51:09 No.6248070 Report

Quoted By: >>6248251

Not sure why this thread even exists when Coco won the game and won't ever be beat.
>muh irys
will never ever get 500k people or make 300k in a day. it's over.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:52:16 No.6248095 Report

Quoted By: >>6248126

>>6248065
im talking all threads. a "busy" thread gets what, 300 ips? 300 people is fucking nothing. this board is not a representation of real life. Look how well Kanae does for example. Or Fuwa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:53:08 No.6248114 Report

Quoted By: >>6248368 >>6248689

>>6247996
If he liked Coco why wouldn't he openly trash Cover? You know there are tons of people who like Holomems but hate Cover and not everyone is a bootlicking drone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:53:51 No.6248126 Report

Quoted By: >>6248154

>>6248095
I know this board is a niche of a niche of a niche, I'm not saying it's a representative of all Nijisanji fans. I'm saying the main Niji thread is actually more active when primetime is nearing an end which wouldn't make sense if the posters are JP residents.
>>6247975
What are you interested in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:54:49 No.6248154 Report

Quoted By: >>6248203 >>6248271 >>6248339 >>6251262 >>6251784

>>6248126
This board has the idea that nijisanji is irrelevant while Kanae's chat makes Pekora's chat look slow. Of course, that's because this is like /v/ in how biased it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:56:27 No.6248203 Report

Quoted By: >>6248224

>>6248154
Let me explain it in simpler terms
>anon says /nijisanji/ is active during JP hours
>it is not, and I point this out
I am talking about the board. Not the viewers or the people who are gouging their wallets for event streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:57:13 No.6248224 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248203
This isn't a good board for nijisanjiJP, even /jp/ is still better. Would you enjoy posting when every 2nd post is a shitposter?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:58:22 No.6248251 Report

Quoted By: >>6248353

>>6248070
>Not sure why this thread even exists
because not everyone is a console war retard and some people use this place to talk about trends and nummbers and not just dickwave like a fag
see >>6232102 for an example

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 06:59:13 No.6248271 Report

Quoted By: >>6248329

>>6248154
Nijisanji is most definitely not irrelevant, it is just not as popular on 4chan. There is nothing wrong with this statement, why does this bother anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:01:19 No.6248329 Report

Quoted By: >>6248385 >>6248419 >>6248438 >>6248453 >>6248461 >>6248656

>>6248271
Because this board is cancerous like /v/ and it dissuades any discussion of other branches or indies. If you dont like holo___ you just get shitposters. And the janitors enable it.
>Lulu no sticky
>a fucking VOMS got a sticky, of all things
they make no secret of their bias. It was the same in /jp/. Even /qa/ ridiculed the mod responsible for /jp/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:01:31 No.6248339 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248154
You can't compare Pekora to Kanae. They appeal to different demo. Don't be such a fucking butthurt retard every time your oshi isn't the highlight of a numbers thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:01:51 No.6248353 Report

Quoted By: >>6248401

>>6248251
What trends are there other than lockdowns = more views and graduation parades do well? That anon mostly analyzes HoloEN and ID, which is not something I'm interested in. We don't need analysis to know what buff games are or who is consistently good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:02:25 No.6248368 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248114
>Narukami likes holomems
>tried to spread that bullshit chink rumour about Noel infringing on Disney copyright
Nah he's just a vulture trying to leech off whatever drama he can find, he has no principles. It makes it easier for idiots to support him if he can claim he's "doing it for the sake of the talents". That's the same excuse Hololive Historian uses too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:03:24 No.6248385 Report

Quoted By: >>6248461

>>6248329
If you frequent the Nijisanji spoonfeed/Nijimale thread you will see that there's no shitposters. They're just really fucking dead. NijiEN has shitposters but we all know the reason why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:03:52 No.6248401 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248353
>That anon mostly analyzes HoloEN and ID
anon....he litteraly asked the thread several times if anyone wanted the deets on their oshi. i know because i had him give me Nenechis nummbers twice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:04:27 No.6248419 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248329
>makes no discussion of other indies. Voms gets a sticky.
So you're one of those retards huh. Go the fuck back on Twitter. Stop demanding shit as if that means anything to the real world nor to the vtuber themselves. People can have proper discussions if you don't respond to bait and if they don't act like a retard like you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:05:12 No.6248438 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248329
>It was the same in /jp/.
yeah the nijimeido who watched his thread like a hawk is a bit of a cunt and the sharkmeido who only watched the globalfags while letting the jp focused thread drown in shitposts is also an asshole

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:05:59 No.6248453 Report

Quoted By: >>6248499

>>6248329
why the fuck would you want a lulu sticky? stickies are awful. it would be great if not a single niji got a sticky when they graduate because only 10 people would actually care and the rest would be shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:06:20 No.6248461 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248329
Then take it up with the 4chan staff directly. You can talk to them on IRC. VOMs got a sticky because it was an execution with Monoe's corpse being left in the town square. The only big thing about Lulu's predicted graduation was the bombshell she dropped at the end of her stream.
>>6248385
No, they are very helpful and are quick enough. Just wait a few hours and someone will respond if they feel like they can. This is only on /vt/ though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:08:15 No.6248499 Report

Quoted By: >>6248645

>>6248453
all the lack of a sticky shows is how tribalistic even the janitors are. not surprising though, they are third worlders working for $0 on this site.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:13:18 No.6248645 Report

Quoted By: >>6248681

>>6248499
i don't think you understand how dumb stickies are. coco's did nothing to clean the board of spam and the thread itself was cancer to the highest degree

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:13:43 No.6248656 Report

Quoted By: >>6248869

>>6248329
mayuzumi doxx was up for almost a full day with 100+ posts before it got deleted
its not just a bias. mods are actual niji-anti tribalfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:14:03 No.6248665 Report

Quoted By: >>6248701

after Pikame got demonitized yesterday, today youtube just up and nuked Marines whole channel. sasuga youtube. Marine still seems to be sleeping so who knows how long it takes to restore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:14:46 No.6248678 Report

Quoted By:

>>6223534

Learn what reclining is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:14:49 No.6248681 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248645
it doesn't matter, a major event deserves one but the omission of it shows how biased the admins are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:15:15 No.6248689 Report

Quoted By: >>6249014

>>6248114
Because Coco still love Hololive and we respect her last wish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:15:34 No.6248701 Report

Quoted By: >>6248773 >>6248825

>>6248665
How long does a channel termination take to get fixed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:18:09 No.6248773 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248701
think Ange from Nijisanji got hers back in a day? but i also remember another vtuber waiting for a week to get it fixed. shits got no rime or reason because no one over at youtube knows how any of it works anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:19:41 No.6248820 Report

Quoted By: >>6249063

>>6246266
As seanigger myself, i could barely watch Moona in the time of her debut. The lagging, nervous, and hearing her family noise in the stream really cringing me and makes me really HoloID branch isn't ready and shouldn't exist in the first place. In the first month she always outshined by Iofi and Risu, because she's too passive and not appealing. She looks bland, not talented and didn't know much about vtuber things, weeb thingy, etc and worse she can't even speak Japanese like Risu and Iofi makes me think she'll never have collab with the JP branch and maybe the JP will never know her existence. I expect Moona to be the first one to graduate in Hololive, especially ID gen 1 because of this.

But overtime, Moona seems to be used to vtuber and start to learn little by little. She start to be more open to the other, by collab to Coco as the only JP members that can speaks english in that time (this is the reason why Coco, besides Pekora become her closest and beloved senpai) and also HoloCN Gremlin Artia that also can speak english. She also embracing more to memes and weeb culture and become more closer to her fans. She also train her voice talent more by with the karaoke stream. Later she came to minecraft with Iofi, Subaru and Watame. Althought she can't even communicate and join the JP conversation (untill now) she found her passion in Minecraft and play it more as a loner, working alone with the things that she likes. Untill she meet Pekora at the first time and became closer to her. After that she became more and more open with the other JP members in minecraft, starting to have more and more interaction. The PekoMoon bonds really boost her existence in JP minecraft and the other members starting to recognize her. And now she became our beloved Mooner

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:19:46 No.6248825 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248701
Hours, usually. Depends on the time of day and to whom it happens. If Marine was verified, her channel will be restored simply because they have direct access to community staff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:21:28 No.6248869 Report

Quoted By: >>6248891 >>6249269 >>6249316

>>6248656
>mods are niji-anti tribalfags

I can say for certainty that they aren't, because if I were a mod, I'd straight up delete all Niji threads the minute they are made. The fact they let Niji discussion here means they aren't antis - they probably just didn't catch the doxx. Give the meidos some slack

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:22:31 No.6248891 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248869
You are either underage or have a learning disability. Or both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:28:15 No.6249014 Report

Quoted By: >>6250213

>>6248689
Does she really? I though she only liked Holomems and Cover could jump off a bridge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:30:04 No.6249063 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248820
Great story... Welcome to /numbers/ btw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:41:36 No.6249269 Report

Quoted By: >>6249442

>>6248869
his dox has been posted and allowed to be up several times and only taken down when holoEN dox was posted in it. there was even a noel dox in it and they didnt care till gura dox

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:44:48 No.6249316 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248869
it was not just a simple post, but an actual bait-thread with doxx as OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:49:26 No.6249397 Report

Quoted By: >>6249492

>>6236896
The next strongest GFE would be Lamy,
but she doesn't earn as much as Rushia.
EN1 doesn't have an effective milker, so we shall see what EN2 will bring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:51:37 No.6249442 Report

Quoted By: >>6249524

>>6249269
sounds like that sharkmeido fagot from jp is also here then. pretty much most holo jp doxxes would stay up for hours but even mentioning Sen*awa would get you insta banned

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:54:12 No.6249492 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249397
meant for
>>6237580

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:54:50 No.6249507 Report

Quoted By:

>>6237580
EN GFE if there's ever one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:55:44 No.6249524 Report

Quoted By: >>6250884

>>6249442
I got a 3 day ban for saying Gura was fake crying during her birthday stream. It's fucking insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:56:52 No.6249546 Report

Quoted By: >>6249614

>>6247955
nigger pekora brought way more Jun normie nigger into this, shut your whore mouth

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 07:58:24 No.6249570 Report

Quoted By: >>6249694

>numbers thread
>”shot nobody cares about” concerning tribalfag retardation and moderation (or lack thereof) sub thread
I never knew these words could be said but
>that’s a step down from the Sodapopping troll
At least he used numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:00:10 No.6249614 Report

Quoted By: >>6250020

>>6249546
Edglord coming through. If you want to bring up 1 year old rrat then sure. I'm sure you have pastebin of copypasta too

Anyways. Mel is getting direct sponsors now. Good job. The rising tide is carrying every one including Mel.

https://twitter.com/yozoramel/status/1413043829498859520?s=19

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:04:27 No.6249694 Report

Quoted By: >>6249793

>>6249570
Sometimes I feel like numbers threads are the designated shitting threads. The only time it seems halfway about numbers is when we first get them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:06:17 No.6249729 Report

Quoted By: >>6249749 >>6249765 >>6249950

>>6247693
>All Niji thread are dead on this board
NijiEN thread is one of the most active thread in this board, WTF are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:07:11 No.6249749 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249729
Pretty sure that's because of shitposters and falseflaggers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:08:10 No.6249765 Report

Quoted By: >>6250145

>>6249729
not wrong but even then, half of that thread are usual schizos and shitposters, and another half are holofag tourists

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:09:32 No.6249793 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249694
This is a containment thread. Not perfect at containing numberfags from sperging on other threads, but /vt will have it worse when this thread goes to page 11.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:11:10 No.6249827 Report

Quoted By: >>6250078

this number thread is all over the place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:16:38 No.6249950 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249729
Lazulight thread.
>14 min ago
>8 min ago
>2 min ago
>5pm in JP
Thus cementing my original point. Disproving that the threads are active when JPs are awake. It doesnt even apply to EN anyway since they stream at JP dead hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:20:01 No.6250020 Report

Quoted By: >>6250078

>>6249614
how desperate do you have to be to pick a gutter holo like Mel

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:22:20 No.6250078 Report

Quoted By: >>6250359

>>6249827
Its been this way since mods stickied the Irys thread and the doxcord got destroyed.

>>6250020
Hololive usually do package deals for sponsorship, basically they get a top holo + 1 mid holo + 1 weak holo. Another way they do this is per gen sponsorships. This way they don't put all their eggs in a single basket.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:25:57 No.6250145 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249765
>half of that thread are usual schizos and shitposters,
That’s all threads

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:28:28 No.6250213 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249014
I thought Hololive is the group of Vtubers and staff working on it and Cover is the company and management that is backing/managing them, that is why Coco always says she loves Hololive but almost never talk about Cover..

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:32:27 No.6250313 Report

Quoted By: >>6250394

This VSinger debut is the highlight of the week.
I think it should get at least 160k live viewership, 75% of her sub number.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:34:13 No.6250359 Report

Quoted By: >>6250512 >>6251344

>>6250078
>doxcord
is this a Hololive thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:35:52 No.6250394 Report

Quoted By: >>6250476 >>6250626

>>6250313
That's too generous anon I'll give it 60k, if her singing is good maybe 70k then shadow ban. Not Gen2 is a filter for tourists. But who knows, I predicted Coco's numbers to be below Lulu's and Vtuber Jesus is now in heaven mocking my numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:39:12 No.6250476 Report

Quoted By: >>6250595 >>6250702 >>6250731

>>6250394
>I predicted Coco's numbers to be below Lulu's
You have to be pretty short bus to think that. I was wrong too but I though Coco would be 250k at best.

I am predicting 60k if no one streams over her. The problem with this assumption is I am thinking that epople might not care about vsinger but it is hinted she is part of gen 2 since there isn't a real gen 2. Also I have a theory that most holobronies don't even know that she isn't gen 2 or what a vsinger even is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:41:15 No.6250512 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250359
I was part of the OG doxxcords, and while it was rampant because of the sudden popularity of Holos, it wasn't exclusive to them. Nijis and any other well known chuubas were also doxxed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:45:01 No.6250595 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250476
The rrats infested my brain and made me think the whole month ramp up made the graduation lose steam. Oh boy was I wrong. I even laughed at the 500K guy and almost certain he would be fucking mocked on that thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:46:38 No.6250626 Report

Quoted By: >>6250827

>>6250394
>I'll give it 60k,
Anon, you are predicting the first debut in the EN market will trail or match a literally who ID debut

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:50:45 No.6250702 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250476
I assume 150k

Save this post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:52:27 No.6250731 Report

Quoted By: >>6250753 >>6250790

>>6250476
i'm thinking a 80k peak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:53:58 No.6250753 Report

Quoted By: >>6250798 >>6250850

>>6250731
Maybe that for the peak but so many people will tune out, especially if her debut is a 3D live. Hololive 3D lives aren't buffed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:56:07 No.6250790 Report

Quoted By: >>6254638

>>6250731
Gura was about 80k.

I'd say 70k to be conservative. Gura was boosted by her design and the meme. IRyS has none of those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:56:23 No.6250798 Report

Quoted By: >>6250827

>>6250753
>tune out
since when is 3D a debuff? sure it isn't like nijisanji where a 4k chuuba will get 100k but is 3D really unappealing to holofans? the numbers say otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:58:06 No.6250827 Report

Quoted By: >>6250920 >>6250985 >>6251143 >>6251947

>>6250626
but that was during the boom. 60k looks to be conservatively good since b-day streams get around this much. This is actually a barometer of how good hololive still is.
60k-80k still healthy
80k-100k A second boom is coming
100k+ Fucking Yagoo was buddha in past life

>>6250798
its more of a non-factor. 3D doesn't buff nor debuff numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 08:59:27 No.6250850 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250753
>if her debut is a 3D live
would be pretty weird if it is. Cover has its own 3D studio in japan so it might work out if she lives there but anywhere else will be a pain in the neck to set up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:01:16 No.6250884 Report

Quoted By:

>>6249524
Well deserved
Know your place faggot
Lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:02:46 No.6250911 Report

Quoted By: >>6250984

>>6246416
How is Moona a leech? I see this get thrown around all the time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:03:13 No.6250920 Report

Quoted By: >>6251026 >>6251042 >>6251179

>>6250827
>but that was during the boom
The boom is now anon. You are predicting the new EN member would trail an otherwise unremarkable middle of the week PekoLuna Club51 collab.
That's not reasonable

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:05:56 No.6250966 Report

Quoted By:

stupid falseflagger at it again

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:06:40 No.6250984 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250911
Leech is just a term that retards throw around when people they don't like collab with people they like. If you see someone use that term to refer to intra company collabs feel free to disregard the entire post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:06:41 No.6250985 Report

Quoted By: >>6251042

>>6250827
Anon, this is an EN debut stream,
not a birthday stream that happens once a year.
EN first outfit update was 2 months ago,
and they got 100k+.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:08:46 No.6251023 Report

Quoted By: >>6251153

VOD restorations really fuck with the views count

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:08:50 No.6251026 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250920
>vsinger
No one cares. 80k is a generous estimate. This is a numbers thread anon, we're usually on the money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:08:53 No.6251027 Report

Quoted By:

IRyS debut 170k screencap this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:09:26 No.6251042 Report

Quoted By: >>6251104 >>6252324

>>6250920
>>6250985
Agree to Disagree anon. I stand by my words. 60k, 70k peak and a stream shadowban. (Odds are in my favor since Irys is shadow banned right now)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:12:32 No.6251104 Report

Quoted By:

>>6251042
How do you know that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:13:10 No.6251117 Report

Quoted By:

>>6245956
https://youtu.be/p5aAcAgFSyc?t=14

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:14:40 No.6251143 Report

Quoted By: >>6251458

>>6250827
>its more of a non-factor. 3D doesn't buff nor debuff numbers.
You don't know numbers if you think 3D doesn't boost numbers wtf

Watame's Bday 3D got 68k. Coco's Bday 3D got 90k. Kanata's 3D concert got 97k. Aqua's 3D concert got 100k. Marine's recent 3D concert got 139k. Suisei and Nene's recent 3D live karaoke got 47k. Subaru's 3D stream with Luna and Choco got 47k. These are not the numbers these girls get in their usual, live2d streams. Most Holomem's viewest viewed stream is their 3D debuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:15:09 No.6251153 Report

Quoted By: >>6254006

>>6251023
That's about 7.5M added views, and almost 100 VOD hours. Stream Hatchet is gonna add 2.7M hours watched to Pekora's Q2 2021 metric and she'll secure #2 in hours watched.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:16:57 No.6251179 Report

Quoted By: >>6251201

>>6250920
You're a fucking dumbass if you think people will show up for this bugs debut. HoloEN had less than 60K people tuning but their growth had massive legs. Botan had HUGE numbers because 1. Her design was flawless 2.Nijifans were interested as well.
Irys will have less than a 100k. There's no chance in hell she'll break that mark. Also her design is shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:18:34 No.6251201 Report

Quoted By: >>6251376

>>6251179
I'll remember to quote this post for relentless mockery when she does break 100k

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:22:22 No.6251262 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248154
Coco's chatroom are the fastest chatroom I've seen in my life. How many streams does Coco have that don't have a cluttered unstable chat. Tatsunoko love Spamming emotes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:26:26 No.6251344 Report

Quoted By: >>6252242

>>6250359
idolfags, especially eop, love doxx
try to numberfag doxx videos and compilations on youtube, holo doxx gets like 50 times more views than niji doxx

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:27:33 No.6251376 Report

Quoted By: >>6253211

>>6251201
As a veteran numberChad. I humbly oblige.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:31:08 No.6251458 Report

Quoted By:

>>6251143

what I meant was 3d + celebration doesn't necessarily give better numbers than celebration call in or whatever.

I don't have the numbers now but as an anecdote: Subaru's b-day got like 60k without 3d.

With regards to your numbers:
Coco grad buff. Kanata Aqua Marine are all 3d concerts of popular Holo. The collabs actually give lower viewership than the concerts. I genuinely believe watame would have gotten 55-60k on his bday even without 3d. So it isn't that big of a buff that can let you soar to 100k immediately. 3d debuts are almost like outfit reveals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:46:34 No.6251768 Report

Quoted By:

She's going to get a minimum of 75k. The reason is because her time is friendly for both EOP and JP. Set on a weekend where you usually have the reddit thing happening. Ollie who is HoloID got 60k in her debut even though it wasn't friendly for EOP. I can also imagine that the rest of the HoloEN and JP will be directing everyone to watch it as well.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:47:33 No.6251784 Report

Quoted By:

>>6248154
his chat is not that fast.
https://2434analytics.com/chart/video/zl_6LW2YePA.html
>83k, 1145.5/min
A faster chat would be something like Fuwa's 3d
https://2434analytics.com/chart/video/zWtdaG1hAew.html
>144k, 2059/min
Pekora's chat is really fast tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:50:04 No.6251831 Report

Quoted By:

>>6237602
There's no western audience to cultivate. You all know very well that holo is the main thing in here Nothing that they do will change that fact.

>>6238642
Neither did Nijisanji. This thing about them not going to r/all is baseless shit based on requests of more than 8 months ago from random members.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 09:56:45 No.6251947 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250827
the boom is now retard. We got tons of records broken both for hololive and nijisanji members in the last 6 months on superchat and live viewers.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:07:16 No.6252137 Report

Quoted By: >>6252193 >>6252206 >>6254742

Where's the faggot who was doing this shit before? Where's the june numbers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:10:29 No.6252193 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252137
mayuzumi would top it with 81k since it was his only june stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:11:02 No.6252206 Report

Quoted By: >>6252263

>>6252137
What does this chart represent?
Nijisanji number of?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:13:24 No.6252242 Report

Quoted By: >>6252263 >>6252275

>>6251344
>Idolfags love doxx
>look at Holo doxx vs Niji doxx

Could it also be possible that no one gives a shit about Niji doxx? Surely that thought crossed your mind?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:15:17 No.6252263 Report

Quoted By: >>6252283 >>6252385

>>6252206
average live viewers (number of streams in the month)

>>6252242
is that why there's tons of jp sites with niji dox

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:16:27 No.6252275 Report

Quoted By: >>6252385

>>6252242
japs do, but not nearly to the same level of obsession as eops or idolfags

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:16:49 No.6252283 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252263
>avg. live viewers
Oh, ok, the anon that posted this should have put that in the picture to not confuse people

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:18:16 No.6252324 Report

Quoted By: >>6253235

>>6251042
Why is it a crime to be very popular? I can't imagine it isn't that uncommon for someone to get 200k subs in a day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:20:27 No.6252385 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252263
JP sites with Nijidoxx makes more sense than "less overall views than Holodoxx on Youtube"

Nijis are literal whos in the West. Less people are inclined to look for doxx of then

>>6252275
Because Nijis are relevant in JP but less so in the West. Western Vtuber watchers could give half a shit about Niji doxx much less know who you are talking about

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:34:12 No.6252600 Report

Quoted By: >>6252654 >>6252992

Suisei's singing streams are why I numberfag so much. It has been very satisfying seeing my oshi incline from 15k to 20k to 30k to 35k over the span of the past year. She's already at 35k 30 mins in, it'll probably peak at 40k tonight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:36:41 No.6252654 Report

Quoted By: >>6252705 >>6252935 >>6252992

>>6252600
It's because she has an announcement at the end, not because of her natural incline

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:39:54 No.6252705 Report

Quoted By: >>6252935 >>6252992

>>6252654
You clearly have not been following her numbers if you think her karaoke numbers haven't inclined heavily the past 6-7 months. She used to cap out under 30k. Now she gets at last 32k every karaoke. Do your reps.

https://holo.poi.cat/vtuber/suisei

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:49:47 No.6252935 Report

Quoted By: >>6253104

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:52:29 No.6252992 Report

Quoted By: >>6253101 >>6254517 >>6258010

>>6252600
>>6252654
>>6252705
Here is the chart for Suisei. Below are all of her streams over 25k peak. Her strong point is really the singing and she's inclining hard for the whole 2021, specially after May

Fun fact: the reason I ended up compiling this data and cobbling this way to chart the numbers was because of Suisei and my mistaken belief that "hi Honey" contributed to her growth
> it didn't, I was proved wrong by someone who knew Suisei a whole lot more because she is his oshi
At least I can chart it now by myself

>2021-07-01 :: 70924/82959 :: 【歌枠】singing stream【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-04-13 :: 55806/67055 :: 【3DLIVE】SPACE for Virtual GHOST【#星街すいせい3周年LIVE】
>2021-06-25 :: 32066/47055 :: 【最後に重大告知…!?】3Dのねねすいでカラオケに来てみた!! / NENE&SUISEI KARAOKE【#ねねすいしんぎんぐ】
>2021-03-22 :: 33809/40732 :: 【凸待ち+お知らせ】お誕生日&デビュー3周年!絶対に祝われたい女【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-06-21 :: 30394/38231 :: 【歌枠】SINGING STREAM【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-06-06 :: 26020/35392 :: 【歌枠】うたいたいきぶんでした【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-06-26 :: 27761/32393 :: 100万人到達まで歌う!! / Singing to reach 1M subscribers【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-01-30 :: 26685/32226 :: 【初配信】ホロライブSP(スペース)00期生です!【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-05-31 :: 25845/32021 :: 【歌枠】SINGING STREAM / ~明日から6月だぜ~【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-04-05 :: 21220/30921 :: 【ウマ娘】フブちゃんとガチャ対決!!先にピックアップを引いたほうの勝ち!!【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-01-31 :: 17565/28897 :: ※概要欄一読推奨【収益化剥奪されたので】24時間節電生活!?【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-02-12 :: 21732/28413 :: 【#実況代理人】大声が出せないので、実況代理を依頼してみた【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-05-12 :: 23304/27492 :: 【歌枠】SINGING STREAM volumeUPver.【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-02-17 :: 24207/27048 :: 【歌枠】singing【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-02-01 :: 21496/26308 :: 【歌枠】【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-05-02 :: 17994/25500 :: 【歌枠】【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】
>2021-04-02 :: 18050/25096 :: ソセレの伝道師大空スバルと楽しいソーセージレジェンド【ホロライブ / 星街すいせい】

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:57:21 No.6253101 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252992
Thanks for compiling the numbers, graph man. I'm not sure if it's also part of feedback loop (more people watch her sing -> sub to her -> watch her game streams -> repeat) but her gaming stream numbers are around the same as they were before the Dec 2020 numbers slaughtering, which might be a sign that she naturally inclined to her previous, pre-youtube change numbers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 10:57:25 No.6253104 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252935
Delicious numbers.
Knew she was inclining since the start of the year for karaoke, but having the numbers laid out like this is pretty nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:01:30 No.6253211 Report

Quoted By:

>>6251376
NTA but keep in mind it's the almost at the same timeslot as the time Gura had her outfit reveal and meme review, the morning of Japan and nighttime for burgerland. Plus, her MV seems to be animated so it might introduce new gen 2 EN member in it as surprise. She could totally reach 100k+.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:02:29 No.6253235 Report

Quoted By:

>>6252324
google niggers are fucking commies. They despise success especially when it comes from anime girl

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:14:45 No.6253522 Report

Quoted By:

Today is delicious numbers

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:21:01 No.6253625 Report

Quoted By: >>6253685 >>6253733

>Subaru getting 35k+ cooking butter
And people say the boom is not now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:23:58 No.6253685 Report

Quoted By: >>6253823

>>6253625
it was 20K before, it became 35K because Suisei just finished her stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:26:04 No.6253733 Report

Quoted By: >>6253844

>>6253625
It's actually 42k already... Subaru has been lowkey one of the most popular holos for a while now. JP is booming for sure, but I'm not sure if EN is stagnating or picking bad games this year. Hope the new EN Vsinger helps bring back the interest from last year.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:30:22 No.6253823 Report

Quoted By: >>6253963 >>6253996

>>6253685
>a stream that just started didn't have max viewers from the getgo.
there is a slight boost from comet ending her stream. its that slight increase at around 13:08 on my graph

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:31:20 No.6253844 Report

Quoted By: >>6254252 >>6254971

>>6253733
I've seen graph guy post Ame and Ina's graphs. They're both inclining. Gura is slightly reclining iirc but she can get 20k+ easily now. I don't know bout Kiara and Mori tho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:36:19 No.6253963 Report

Quoted By: >>6254026

>>6253823
It's the once-in-a-while no-one-else-is-streaming buff. This timeslot seems to guarantee atleast 40k+ with a high end chuuba as long as she solos it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:37:57 No.6253996 Report

Quoted By: >>6254084

>>6253823
Wait wait wait, fried butter is a thing? How?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:38:19 No.6254006 Report

Quoted By:

>>6251153
That's not how stream hatchet works, anon. They will see the VODs are old and count them out of their arguably useless statistic.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:39:14 No.6254026 Report

Quoted By: >>6254088

>>6253963
>It's the once-in-a-while no-one-else-is-streaming buff
Chocosensei....

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:41:56 No.6254084 Report

Quoted By:

>>6253996
'Murica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_butter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:42:17 No.6254088 Report

Quoted By: >>6254171

>>6254026
Hololive and apex hardly mix well, eh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:42:24 No.6254096 Report

Quoted By:

>>6247994
you are trying too hard bronie

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:46:02 No.6254171 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254088
the sad part is that she is getting a boost from Apex. her recent endurance climb got some apex autists interested and her current stream peaked at 5k live views which is pretty good for her

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:50:16 No.6254252 Report

Quoted By: >>6254322 >>6258010

>>6253844
>I don't know bout Kiara and Mori tho.
Here's Kiara. I can see why she would be worried about numbers: she had a good incline post new costume but overall she never really found her "footing" and any pause in her activity loses her a chunk of her audience and all momentum.

Here is all 15k+ peak streams from her in 2021, it seems to be all collabs or special occasions.

>2021-05-04 :: 44143/71108 :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Let's shop for NEW CLOTHES! 新衣装お披露目 #phoenixfashion
>2021-03-17 :: 20214/43219 :: 【UNO!】Legendary Uno Battle #kfp #キアライブ
>2021-07-06 :: 24743/38123 :: "【BIRBDAY!お誕生日】PARTY with FRIENDS, KARAOKE, ANNOUNCEMENTS! #KiaraBirbday2021"
>2021-06-19 :: 31005/34154 :: 【#HOLOTALK】With our 11th guest: Kiryu Coco! #ORANGEWOMEN #オレンジコアラ
>2021-02-20 :: 26626/32611 :: 【TAKAMORI CONCERT】It's time to say goodbye... Part 1: Unarchived! #TAKAMORI
>2021-07-06 :: 27726/32415 :: 【BIRBDAY COLLAB】Jackbox Partygames with the girls!!! #KiaraBirbday2021
>2021-05-18 :: 22948/32243 :: waiting for ina!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>2021-02-20 :: 26686/29074 :: 【TAKAMORI CONCERT】I wanna see you again sometime Part 2 (Archived) #TAKAMORI
>2021-01-16 :: 24039/28061 :: 【#HOLOTALK】With our 4th guest: Oozora Subaru #holobirds #ホロ鳥
>2021-05-29 :: 22041/26384 :: 【#HOLOTALK】With our 10th guest: A--chan! #ホロトーク
>2021-01-30 :: 21800/25987 :: 【#HOLOTALK】With our 5th guest: Sakura Miko #EliTori #エリー鳥
>2021-06-16 :: 20004/23511 :: 【NYANNERSxKIARA】CATS AND GAMES #kiaranyan
>2021-04-17 :: 17494/20173 :: 【#HOLOTALK】With our 8th guest: Hoshimachi Suisei #cometori #コメットリ
>2021-02-06 :: 10666/17554 :: 【TAKAMORI】Travel Stories and Photos! 日本旅行の思い出! #TAKAMORI
>2021-01-15 :: 13521/16383 :: 【SUPERMARKET SHRIEK】SCREAAAAAAAAAAM #sametori #サメトリ
>2021-03-05 :: 07991/16029, :: 【HoloDE Debüt】Nett, euch kennen zu lernen. KIKKERIKIII!! #kfp #キアライブ"
>2021-02-06 :: 13044/16000 :: 【COUPLE Q&A】#TAKAMORI Q&A with your MARSHMALLOWS!
>2021-02-10 :: 13691/15671 :: 【UNARCHIVED】KIARAOKE PARTY #kfp #キアライブ
>2021-03-06 :: 13539/15591 :: 【GURAxKIARA】Teaching a shark some German 101! #sametori #サメトリ
>2021-02-21 :: 13753/15576 :: 【KIARAxNENE】 O'riends 2nd CONCERT【Oレンズです!】#oRiends #Oレンズ
>2021-06-09 :: 13877/15460 :: 【TTRPG】1st Tutorial session! TIARA'S BEGINNINGS #kfp #キアライブ
>2021-04-10 :: 12534/15369 :: 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE MARATHON】UNTIL I REACH 900K OR MY VOICE DIES #kfp #キアライブ

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:54:17 No.6254322 Report

Quoted By: >>6254400 >>6254443 >>6254733

>>6254252
I even had to do a double take to see if in her case, like in many other girls, superchat time is the reason eating into her averages but sometimes it is debuff games
>pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 11:58:41 No.6254400 Report

Quoted By: >>6254721

>>6254322
NTA but I think what is affecting her viewership is her choice of games, it's almost always RPGs and most of RPGs are such a debuff for streaming

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:00:43 No.6254443 Report

Quoted By: >>6254592 >>6254721

>>6254322
Kiara likes to play games that are very filtering to mainstream viewers. It's fine though since she does balances them out by doing shows like Holotalk and collabs. She gets decent SC. She's in the mid tier of Holos

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:04:30 No.6254517 Report

Quoted By: >>6254610 >>6254710 >>6255180

>>6252992
Hello. I'm that one dude that was trying to say that her incline wasn't because of Hi Honey. I'm a girl btw. I'd like to believe that there are a lot female hoshiyomis but I don't know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:09:03 No.6254592 Report

Quoted By: >>6254885

>>6254443
Following the footsteps of Coco, who also had pretty mid-level game stream numbers, but reddit meme reviews in the weekends did most of the heavy lifting. Considering she does care about numbers more than the usual holo, I do wish Kiara would at least listen to some of the criticisms many have given her (chicken voice filter, having overly long superchat streams instead of dedicated Zatsudan streams...etc), because it'll surely help her numbers. The JRPG streams will always be a huge debuff, but there's no reason why she can't get 10k on her minecraft streams like Ina/Ame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:10:25 No.6254610 Report

Quoted By: >>6254851

>>6254517
Suisei has the the highest female rate in Hololive. But they usually appear on singing streams. Her gaming stream is pretty normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:11:46 No.6254638 Report

Quoted By:

>>6250790
hololive has grown alot since HoloEN first debuted, I'll predict 100k+

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:15:29 No.6254710 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254517
I think there were a few hoshiyomis that said that. I remember saying it, I don't know if in the same thread though

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:15:51 No.6254721 Report

Quoted By: >>6254885

>>6254400
>>6254443
She clearly seems to enjoy doing whatever, she should do like Lamy and just not care about viewership numbers, cultivate a steady and financially supportive audience and be happy with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:16:25 No.6254733 Report

Quoted By: >>6254866

>>6254322
>she never really found her "footing"
All of en except Ina had this problem in the beginning; but they found their staple stream in the following months.
Gura has karaoke, rhythm games and DBD
Ame has innovative streams (3d VR, Charity, Ame Theater)
Ina has drawing skills and minecraft
Mori has TTRPG and music
Kiara has nothing, her skillset is good for things like holotalk but she always debuff herself by putting herself at JP primetime and playing debuff games for her audience. She knows her audience is EN but her mind did mental gymnastics to justify that since she is in Hololive her content must pander to JP or Otaku adjacent. This cognitive dissonance manifest in her persistent belief that she is not good enough. She is quite literally YWNBJ.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:16:54 No.6254742 Report

Quoted By: >>6254783

>>6252137
I am starting to legitimately think that graph-kun committed sudoku after Lulu announced her graduation. We may have to come up with the charts ourselves going forward.

RIP in peace, graph-kun.
Captcha: PNWS0

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:18:48 No.6254783 Report

Quoted By: >>6254815 >>6254860

>>6254742
either that or graph-kun got fucking pissed at tribalfags and left never to look back here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:20:08 No.6254815 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254783
Graph kun is a nip, so I very much doubt that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:21:47 No.6254851 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254610
I believe Coco had the highest female rate in Hololive.yphmd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:22:03 No.6254860 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254783
Someone should take the mantle of graph-kun then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:22:22 No.6254866 Report

Quoted By: >>6254897

>>6254733
Add ASMR to Mori too, those kind of streams gets crazy amount of viewership conpared to her other streams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:23:07 No.6254885 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254592
She had this Q&A where she talked about what image she intended to have in the beginning. She wanted to be the cutesy kind. Her voice wasn't that bad maybe because her audio was terrible so it didn't pick up whatever she's doing right now. She's going to stick with this voice because the people that do SC her love her voice. I do wish that she soften her voice rather than talk a pitch higher. I think that would solve her problems. She also need to back away from the mic. Like a feet away.
>>6254721
Lamy is the best that Kiara can hope for. She gets marketed heavily. She has the big liquor deals. Vark concert and Bloom. I'm happy with Lamy's progress and she doesn't feel pressured anymore to be "unique" like before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:23:52 No.6254897 Report

Quoted By:

>>6254866
How many did she get in here ASMR stream today?
I missed it, when I got to the stream she is already reading SC and her numbers is below 7k

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:27:12 No.6254971 Report

Quoted By: >>6255163 >>6258010

>>6253844
>Mori
She inclined hard in 2021, specially her lows but like Kiara she has a
>momentum
problem. Is she taking breaks often or something?
She truly thrives on collabs, that's for sure, and they get good moments and word of mouth for her too.

Here are all her 20k+ streams in 2021.
>2021-05-03 :: 47566/135527 :: 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL!】Grim Reaper's Brand New Style! 新衣装お披露目会!! #HololiveEnglish #CalliDrip
>2021-04-01 :: 48267/55952 :: 【HOLOEN COLLAB】Not a Joke! Serious Outfit Reveal on April the 1st #yurumyth #hololiveEnglish
>2021-02-01 :: 28669/36725 :: [ORIGINAL SONG] Off With Their Heads - Calliope Mori
>2021-05-25 :: 33084/36528 :: 【HOLOEN TTRPG】Character Creation! The World of Darkness Awaits Our Hunters... 8} #hololiveEnglish
>2021-06-08 :: 29828/33702 :: 【SUPER MARIO PARTY】Madness. Insanity. Anime Women. Featuring Coco and Ollie! #hololiveEnglish
>2021-04-04 :: 26241/32519 :: 【BIRTHDAY STREAM】The Grim Reaper's Birthday Bash and EP Release Party, Yo! #moribirthd4y #holomyth
>2021-06-24 :: 23012/28956 :: 【UNARCHIVED KARAOKE】Singing My Reaper Heart Out! #holoMyth #hololiveEnglish
>2021-01-10 :: 17026/25049 :: 【Clubhouse 51】Games with Amelia! (Low Sodium, I Promise) #hololiveEnglish #holoMyth
>2021-01-25 :: 15293/23023 :: 【1 MILLION SUBS ENDURANCE STREAM】Until the End!!! 8} #Holomyth #HololiveEnglish
>2021-02-02 :: 20042/22726 :: 【PAPERS, PLEASE】Inspector Calli and Kiara, at your F-Wording Service! #Holomyth #HololiveEnglish
>2021-04-15 :: 17440/21845 :: 【CLUBHOUSE 51 GAMES】GAME ON, KUSOTORI!!! with Takanashi Kiara #hololiveenglish #holomyth
>2021-06-04 :: 19583/21703 :: 【PHASMOPHOBIA COLLAB】We Love To Not Be Alive. #hololiveEnglish
>2021-05-18 :: 13624/21035 :: 【FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN】 We Do Not Funk Around, Dead BEATS. #hololiveEnglish #holoMyth
>2021-04-17 :: 17177/20662 :: 【LIVE SHOW】Your Mori. Release Live Show! #holoMyth #hololiveEnglish
>2021-05-17 :: 16575/20567 :: 【RESIDENT EVIL 8 VILLAGE】PART 1- OK, I Will Play Your Spooky Games. #hololiveEnglish #holoMyth
>2021-01-24 :: 15925/20178 :: 【GETTING OVER IT】Calming Gameplay with Grim Reaper Calliope Mori #hololiveEnglish #holoMyth

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:34:32 No.6255126 Report

Quoted By: >>6255156 >>6255312

>Suisei debutting a full album
What are the charts that must be watched for numberfaggotry? Is this the first full Holo album?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:36:14 No.6255156 Report

Quoted By:

>>6255126
Isn't it Oricon and the various charts for the digital music repositories?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:36:35 No.6255163 Report

Quoted By: >>6255341

>>6254971
Calli, Ina, and Gura all have the benefit of being willing to play FOTM games, unlike Ame, who feels like she tries to play the most unpopular games like Planet Zoo and that Bridge builder game, and Kiara, who is stuck in JRPG hell. Calli gets pretty good numbers when she plays FOTM stuff like Night Delivery and RE8 (~15k). Being music focused, her rare karaoke streams also do well (~30k). What kills her numbers is Shadowverse streams and shill streams, both of which she does a lot of and only get like 6-7k viewers. She's probably the most inconsistent EN member numbers-wise because of how much more popular her non-game content is and how many shill streams she does.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:37:52 No.6255180 Report

Quoted By: >>6255287

>>6254517
Best part of both Holo in general and this place in particular is that
>on the internet nobody knows you're a dog
Or a giant spider

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:43:32 No.6255287 Report

Quoted By:

>>6255180
I miss her bros...

posting number image in exchange for this non-numbers post

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:44:50 No.6255312 Report

Quoted By:

>>6255126
Sora and Azki arleady released their own albums. And of course we had Bloom

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:46:32 No.6255341 Report

Quoted By: >>6255376 >>6255392

>>6255163
>What kills her numbers is Shadowverse streams and shill streams
It is part of her job, if you think about it. Some girls make money on merch, some on donations, and some on paid streams.

I wouldn't doubt PriConn pays north of 30k USD for each of those promotional streams, it would take a very good day of Superchat to match that (and YT doesn't get a cut).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:48:23 No.6255376 Report

Quoted By: >>6255422 >>6255429

>>6255341
Ya she should get paid. At the end of the day, only numberfags here care about day to day numbers anyways. I'll take 30k and an underperforming numbers day in a heartbeat lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:49:22 No.6255392 Report

Quoted By:

>>6255341
She needs to balance them out. A lot of her shills are almost every week. Aqua for one is doing a lot of preps for her shills outside of streaming. It's hurting her numbers

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:51:23 No.6255422 Report

Quoted By: >>6256312

>>6255376
Why pick between getting paid promos or getting good numbers, when you can actually get both? Pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:51:36 No.6255429 Report

Quoted By: >>6255574

>>6255376
Sponsors care about the numbers. They care about your demo audience. They care about how long do they stay to even listen to you. They care about the amount of hype you can deliver to their product. It also drives the bargaining power of how much you can earn in a deal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 12:59:53 No.6255574 Report

Quoted By: >>6255794

>>6255429
Calli with her 1.5 mil subs, avg viewerbase of 10k+. and multiple original songs with millions of views is all she needs to get sponsorships. Even Nijis with less than 2k average viewers and 120k subs get sponsorships. I don't think Calli getting 7k playing shadowverse is an issue for anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:04:47 No.6255691 Report

Quoted By: >>6255821

Marine about to do a zatsudan about her very brief youtube ban. Should be pretty damn good numbers despite heavy competition from other holos (33k for Pekora and 21k from FBK)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:09:01 No.6255794 Report

Quoted By: >>6255819 >>6256563

>>6255574
Mori may not get so many live viewers (mostly because of her shitty jp streaming times), but she gets a shitton of vod views in the end of the day, for every stream. Iirc she was in top ten in total views per stream vod, in the last month.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:10:16 No.6255819 Report

Quoted By: >>6255877

>>6255794
Anon those are music views.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:10:29 No.6255821 Report

Quoted By: >>6255895

>>6255691
>37k
where is that marine-anti anon now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:13:13 No.6255877 Report

Quoted By: >>6256078

>>6255819
nope, they specifically state that they don't include any music videos on those charts, only streams
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S6026961#p6026961

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:13:54 No.6255895 Report

Quoted By:

>>6255821
Interesting that she is cannibalizing pekora's numbers, Gen3 really is so powerful they compete between themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:21:18 No.6256078 Report

Quoted By: >>6256137

>>6255877
Huh wasn't that the one where the methodology was kind of shit? Any metric that multiplies or divide viewership and time is bad since youtube numbers are unreliable. The best data is CCV.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:23:34 No.6256137 Report

Quoted By: >>6256306 >>6258416

>>6256078
CCV is the most unreliable of all youtube data, anonchama

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:25:17 No.6256179 Report

Quoted By: >>6256256

Ayamecuck paypigs going wild in her 1m sub celebration waiting room, this could be a pretty big one

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:28:23 No.6256256 Report

Quoted By: >>6256443

>>6256179
seethe harder, ayamehater

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:30:01 No.6256306 Report

Quoted By: >>6256388

>>6256137
Anon its the most reliable because its unrealiable to everyone. If everyone has the same disadvantage then no has an advantage. CCV may not be accurate but it is best metric for comparison in regards to how much eyeball share a streamer has. Besides youtube CCV accounts for when someone is viewing multiple streams (proven).

Views only matter for MV and potential market (people missing out on streams).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:30:13 No.6256312 Report

Quoted By: >>6258528

>>6255422
Make Pekora shill Shadowverse on a near weekly basis and wait to see how long it will take for her to drop them like a bad habit. That game is just a burden on anyone that shills it... just like RAID: Shadow Legends.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:32:55 No.6256388 Report

Quoted By: >>6256563

>>6256306
>its the most reliable because its unrealiable to everyone
what kind of retarded logic is that lol
what matters the most for sponsors is avg watch time and unique viewers, which are only accessible to the channel owner and is usually requested by them

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:34:55 No.6256443 Report

Quoted By: >>6256521 >>6256530

>>6256256
Don't get me wrong, I'm in awe at her ability to gain over 100k subs and the love and money of her fans after ignoring them for nearly two months doing god only knows what

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:38:02 No.6256521 Report

Quoted By:

>>6256443
kek, she won't even do l2d because setting it up after moving is too much work. Have a png instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:38:26 No.6256530 Report

Quoted By:

>>6256443
Hologra really boosts Ayame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:39:35 No.6256563 Report

Quoted By: >>6256638

Here comes Ayame, holy shit numbers are good today.

>>6256388
you're right of course, but since we don't have those numbers I am arguing that CCV is the metric for eyeball share for the time slot and vod views is the metric of potential viewers (ihose who missed the vod). This anon >>6255794 is arguing using a shitty metric that uses views over time streamed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:42:35 No.6256638 Report

Quoted By: >>6256692 >>6256718 >>6256728

>>6256563
Eh, she's getting good sc numbers but her view count is fairly mediocre for a one million celebration stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:44:24 No.6256692 Report

Quoted By:

>>6256638
nah, I would say her live views are pretty ok for what is basically a guerilla one mill celebration. The other holos who done it gave it way better hype and a good schedule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:45:30 No.6256718 Report

Quoted By:

>>6256638
Anon look who she's fighting against. Marine Fubuki Korone and Pekora. If Gura streams right now only 13k would tune in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 13:45:52 No.6256728 Report

Quoted By:

>>6256638
Milestone streams hardly ever get big viewer figures, they don't attract tourists like an outfit reveal for example would, it's more for the core fans to empty their wallets

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:02:48 No.6257119 Report

Quoted By: >>6257142

I've been wondering about twitter likes/retweets lately and was reminded that Niji had their own topics. Their posts had always been bloated with likes/retweets so when does Hololive get their own topic?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:03:49 No.6257142 Report

Quoted By: >>6257181 >>6257194 >>6257226

>>6257119
Hololive just needs to pay for it, I'm honestly not sure why Cover has yet to do so

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:05:30 No.6257181 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257142
how much would you pay for a sack of shit have your name over it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:06:31 No.6257194 Report

Quoted By: >>6257213

>>6257142
Do they even know how to do that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:07:12 No.6257213 Report

Quoted By: >>6257446

>>6257194
I mean, they should, this is literally part of their job of promoting their talents.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:07:50 No.6257226 Report

Quoted By: >>6257257

>>6257142
would twitter generate same audience exposure as what coco did to reddit? If no then there really is no need, hashtags are enough. Hololive almost always trend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:09:13 No.6257257 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257226
Considering that twitter and reddit are almost seperate spheres entirely, yes. Your reach will definitely be wider if you have a topic on twitter, there is a reason why they charge for this service

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:18:19 No.6257446 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257213
I wouldn't put it past them to not even know what Twitter topics are...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:24:06 No.6257577 Report

Quoted By: >>6257676 >>6257795

How did everyone perform today so far?
I'm seeing Matsuri Okayu Lamy Risu and Mori underperforming while everyone else is performing above their average.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:29:24 No.6257676 Report

Quoted By: >>6257884

>>6257577
>Okayu
doing a fun small game in prime time while all the heavy hitters were at it was bound to lead to this
>Matsuri
afraid she groomed her viewers to be apex heads only so a switch to valorant won't do her views that great
>Lamy
her MonHun streams tend to be around 8k peak so it seems like the usual for her desu

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:34:15 No.6257783 Report

Quoted By: >>6257943 >>6257970 >>6258155 >>6258202 >>6258229 >>6259181

Pekor…

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:35:07 No.6257795 Report

Quoted By: >>6257819 >>6257884 >>6257929

>>6257577
>Matsuri Okayu Lamy Risu and Mori underperforming
Wut? I am the creator of this chart and I have no idea of what you are talking about. The very chart you are posting shows she had a Q2 way above her Q1.

If you don't have the mental acuity to read basic charts please don't pretend you have and misrepresent the data.
Also: having a 2nd quarter stronger than the first most definitely does not mean "underperforming", most of the times it just mean "special occasions on 1st quarter distorting the data"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:36:15 No.6257819 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257795
And by "she" I mean Mori

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:39:22 No.6257884 Report

Quoted By: >>6258008 >>6258010

>>6257676
Matsuri is playing the game that won in her twitter poll I think. Maybe this would be a wake up call to stop doing fps games. Who am I kidding of course it won't this is Matuli we are talking about.

Okayu has been doing these small games during primetime at least her viewership is consistent.

>>6257795
I'm using the average viewership data on the upper part for Q2 not the comparison part on the lower part. Yes I understand that averages are distorted by special ocasion but its a good enough indicator of what numbers they should have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:41:10 No.6257929 Report

Quoted By: >>6258058

>>6257795
Oh I'm being stupid. You were referring to the data on the image, I'm using the data as the baseline to compare to today's number. sorry graph bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:41:41 No.6257943 Report

Quoted By: >>6258202

>>6257783
Wasn't Pekors tied with the second place last ranking?
or was that the 3rd place she was tied to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:42:18 No.6257970 Report

Quoted By: >>6258202

>>6257783
Im highly doubtful of how they calculate this, Valkyrae has literal dogshit CCV once she stopped the Among Us train, and thus having days where her CCV are much lower than Pekora, for 2 months now. How come she is still above Pekor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:43:50 No.6258008 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257884
shooters could be fine if she would play some that are more out there for holos. get that serious sam or BFor go full autism and start some arma 3 collaborations

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:43:53 No.6258010 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257884
>Yes I understand that averages are distorted by special ocasion but its a good enough indicator of what numbers they should have.
No, it's not a good indication, that's why I make an individual chart for each talent (for instance >>6224117, >>6224835, >>6230820, >>6232102, >>6252992, >>6254252, >>6254971).
Also that's why I post the streams that got the most views during a certain time period. Having a better quarter than the later may just mean a birthday happened, a 3D debut happened, some big collab happened.
That all gets smoothed out in the 14 days average because barring a GIANT day 2 weeks is enough to highlight a trend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:46:01 No.6258058 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257929
No probs, that's why I make a talent by talent chart, to ensure people can see the big picture that a single figure can't show

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:50:03 No.6258155 Report

Quoted By: >>6258193

>>6257783
so they continue to calculate "watched hours" by just CCV * time huh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:51:12 No.6258193 Report

Quoted By: >>6258301 >>6258547

>>6258155
That seems logical to me but I cant know if something is missing. Is it wrong to calculate that way?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:51:30 No.6258202 Report

Quoted By: >>6258295

>>6257783
>>6257943
>Wasn't Pekors tied with the second place last ranking?
Fourth, tied with third. She rose to uncontested third

>>6257970
>How come she is still above Pekor?
Likely longer streams. They take the average CCV and multiply by the time streamed, that gives the "area" under the stream chart.

That's a silly metric tho, because it implies Choco doing a 12 hours APEX marathon for a 3k average viewership has the same value of Subaru doing a hour long butter frying stream (no, really, what is this? America?) for 36k people.

Not to take anything away from Choco, I was one of the 3k watching her stream, but this numeric jigamagic doesn't have any comparative value because it compares things that cannot be compared

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:52:30 No.6258229 Report

Quoted By: >>6258295 >>6258389

>>6257783
eh this is #1? Did she stream 20 hours a day or did these fuckers miscalculate their shit again?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:55:03 No.6258295 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258229
I'm going to assume that's "14 hours 17 minutes" (the max one) and refer to >>6258202.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:55:33 No.6258301 Report

Quoted By: >>6258411

>>6258193
that`s only live watched hours; plus youtube filters about 30% of CCV (spamviewers), and Twitch doesnt. Real watched hours should account the latecoming vod-viewers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:59:00 No.6258389 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258229
well, she has 12.6m on twitchtracker, same for sullygnome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:59:38 No.6258411 Report

Quoted By: >>6258463 >>6258495

>>6258301
Real watched hours is inaccessible (YT Studio is only for owner), so the chart only take Live into account. Regardless, the calculation of hours watched= CCV*Live hours seems logical to me, unless 20k average over 3h is somehow not 60k hours total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 14:59:49 No.6258416 Report

Quoted By: >>6258543

>>6256137
You think vod views isnt? Pikamee released her data and her per vod view average watch time is 10 minutes, bet live viewers isnt the one dragging down

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:01:37 No.6258463 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258411
>unless 20k average over 3h is somehow not 60k hours total.
It is but a half hour long 120k average stream clearly is in a different league of a 20k average 3 hours long stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:02:39 No.6258495 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258411
they should call it live watched hours then, and slap estimated to that, since youtube streamers take a hit and twitch ones don`t when you use ccv

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:03:55 No.6258528 Report

Quoted By: >>6258572 >>6258640

>>6256312
Shadowverse cant afford pekora.

There is this thing we call “talent fee”

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:04:31 No.6258543 Report

Quoted By: >>6258716

>>6258416
>Pikamee
that average includes her live watch time as well, it is the simple total.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:04:38 No.6258547 Report

Quoted By: >>6258607

>>6258193
Yes, because it doesn't make sense in the first place. They don't have access to YouTube's analytics that are heavily managed by the algorithm and Cover (or any entity) would be crazy if they agreed to give out this data to a sketchy organization that provides them no value whatsoever. In case you're not aware, CCV*time discounts the view time generated by VODs that were added after a stream was made, which could make their list look completely different depending on how much content was watched of a streamer a given day.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:05:44 No.6258572 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258528
besides that they don't need a jp holo, their jp market is solid unlike their western one. its the same reason microsoft is so willing to throw money at holos. they got a solid foothold in the west and want to break into jp market

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:07:50 No.6258607 Report

Quoted By: >>6258791

>>6258547
I do agree that calling it "Most watched" is misleading, should be "Most watched Live" or something, but this kind of data is all they have, since they cant access the studio. It makes Amouranth looks better while she just stream longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:09:13 No.6258640 Report

Quoted By: >>6258757 >>6258804

>>6258528
That is inconsequential to the point. Even if they could afford Pekora, Pekora wouldn't keep playing that game because all it does is mess with her numbers. Say what you will about artists "selling out" being good or bad, Mori did sell out big time to a gacha card game that's more like an anchor to her entertainment career then a lifeboat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:10:39 No.6258680 Report

Quoted By: >>6258732 >>6258761 >>6258993

I'm seeing some huge inclines from 1 day to another in streams I don't expect to get that huge of a buff from FBK, Kanata and Subaru. Is it a holiday today too or what's happening?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:12:07 No.6258716 Report

Quoted By: >>6258853

>>6258543
Thats why ive said that archive viewers brings the average lower.

Atleast you can see the live views unlike archive viewers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:12:41 No.6258732 Report

Quoted By: >>6258783

>>6258680
My theory is that Coco graduation grabs a ton of attention to hololive and gain them a lot of new fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:13:30 No.6258757 Report

Quoted By: >>6258983 >>6259016

>>6258640
Isn’t “selling out” the entire point of joining an agency? If you didn’t want to be a sell out you could stay as an indie and starve.
Besides, Hololive fans actively cheer when their oshi gets sponsorships, problem with Mori is that she played it for free after her sponsorship stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:13:36 No.6258761 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258680
They are playing minecraft gacha, it's like crack cocaine to nips

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:14:20 No.6258783 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258732
I wouldn't doubt this. I only really started watching after the Aloe fallout got me interested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:14:42 No.6258791 Report

Quoted By: >>6258917

>>6258607
That's also another key point to keep a look out for. If you stream for longer, it is obvious that you will generate more watch hours with the same viewership than someone that streams for less time. So then, what's the worth of this particular metric? Just like like that viewer/time metric this is just a worthless metric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:15:06 No.6258804 Report

Quoted By: >>6258936 >>6258954 >>6258983 >>6259264

>>6258640
Is this an actual rrat or just something to paint her as a number hungry holo? I remember back in September 2020, she played that JRPG game with very bad CCV (from MC 50k to that game 17k) but she persisted and completed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:16:46 No.6258853 Report

Quoted By: >>6258923

>>6258716
stop presenting your theories as facts

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:19:17 No.6258917 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258791
There are a lot of metrics to use, so focusing on just 1 is obviously not good. I remember checking Gura and Pekor videos often, and notice a cool detail. You know that Scarlet Nexus stream she played with god awful 10k CCV only? It somehow gains view daily more than Pekora's Bleach stream with 30k CCV, even to this day. Im surprised that a game so bad barely any of Gura viewers show up, yet can gain views more daily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:19:37 No.6258923 Report

Quoted By: >>6258965

>>6258853
It aint theory if the datas are there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:20:06 No.6258936 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258804
she`ll play a full game on low numbers if she actually enjoys the game; but she gets so much money on the regular that getting paid isnt enough incentive for her to hurt her numbers and consequently her fanbase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:20:51 No.6258954 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258804
she is a numberfagg to a degree. she showed her home screen by accident during her god something game stream, that game Nene reintroduced to holos , and one of her saved links was a nummbers website and another was 5chan or 2 chan or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:21:14 No.6258965 Report

Quoted By: >>6259336

>>6258923
I swear to god if you say that the "data that is there" is pikamee`s general numbers I`ll fucking find you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:22:17 No.6258983 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258757
>>6258804
I never said that selling out was good or bad (I even included the disclaimer), I did say that she did because that's what happened. She simply bet on the wrong horse with that sale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:22:44 No.6258993 Report

Quoted By:

For those that don't get why 120k in 30 min != 20k in 3 hours. Viewership doesn't scale linearly, imagine Ayame streamed just 1 hr today to an average CCV of 20k going how they compute most watched, it is the same as Robocco streaming 10 hrs to an average CCV of 2K. The two simply isn't comparable. Its just a coincidence that High CCV streamers also stream longer.

>>6258680
We may be under a second boom. or Occam's razor, JP likes axolotls (highly likely since Botan had the same numbers). Subaru's cooking is just a bizarre enough to warrant a watch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:23:31 No.6259016 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258757
Then wouldn't that mean Mori just have taken a liking in playing that game?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:31:41 No.6259181 Report

Quoted By:

>>6257783
I honestly don't want to acknowledge a hot tub streamer to be the top female streamer. It's plain wrong honestly. Pekora has actual veriety in her streams where she doesn't play Minecraft every day and switches often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:33:20 No.6259216 Report

Quoted By: >>6259255 >>6259299 >>6259308 >>6259352 >>6259475

Since this is a number thread and so far anons have been less shitposty, I would like to ask for an opinion: People talk about Gura declining often, but is it an actual fact with something backing it up, or just CCV as the only metric to use? If not, is there any more evidence for the decline?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:35:28 No.6259252 Report

Quoted By: >>6259272 >>6259276 >>6259576 >>6261422

Top 10 for today

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:35:33 No.6259255 Report

Quoted By: >>6259308 >>6259362

>>6259216
her live views are all over the place but her vod views seem to be pretty stable from what anons keep posting here. a change in shedule or streaming habbits might even raise her live views quite a bit but Gura is to depressed/dissinterested etc etc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:36:02 No.6259264 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258804
>or just something to paint her as a number hungry holo
"Number hungry" is a pejorative for what Pekora really is
> a professional number savvy streamer that both want what's best for her audience and what's best for her bottom line

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:36:39 No.6259272 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259252
Anon, I think it would be better to kill of this thread and make a new thread for that ranking

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:36:43 No.6259276 Report

Quoted By: >>6259343

>>6259252
i can't believe its butter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:37:49 No.6259299 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259216
she declined at the start of the year (and baitposters can`t get out of that time loop), but by now she`s stabilized or even on a slight incline

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:38:06 No.6259308 Report

Quoted By: >>6259413

>>6259255
>>6259216
Wait for graph bro, from what I can remember she is inclining. If he doesn't appear check archives.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:39:20 No.6259336 Report

Quoted By:

>>6258965
COPE, next thing you would say is that stream vod views is more profitable compared to SC

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:39:54 No.6259343 Report

Quoted By: >>6259368 >>6259479

>>6259276
I haven't watched it yet, how surreal is it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:40:29 No.6259352 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259216
You might want to wait for graph anon to make a metric to point to you, but the most relevant marker for her supposed decline was back in February-April, where everyone sorta dipped and went back up. Gura's over/under seems to be 20k CCV and 650k views per video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:40:49 No.6259362 Report

Quoted By: >>6259407 >>6259460 >>6259479

>>6259255
About that point, many have said that VOD is irrelevant because they are Live streamer, and thus only Live view matters. Is there truth to that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:41:21 No.6259368 Report

Quoted By: >>6259392

>>6259343
Well, according to Murrica, everything can be deepfried/cooked with butter and yes, even butter itself

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:42:50 No.6259392 Report

Quoted By: >>6259430

>>6259368
Have you tried, deep-fried ice-cream, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:43:33 No.6259407 Report

Quoted By: >>6259499 >>6259879

>>6259362
If that so, then English speakers are in a heavy disadvantage due to their viewers being in different timezones

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:43:49 No.6259413 Report

Quoted By: >>6259861

>>6259308
dosen't take a graph to see her live views jump around, just a bit of scrolling.
still the graph anon can tell the baseline views you could excpect much easier and has the data in a more degestable maner

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:44:35 No.6259430 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259392
...You can deepfry that too?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:46:17 No.6259460 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259362
No. Anyone who says that is coping or trolling, and are most likely the same kind of people who try to pass of sodapoppin's twitch subs as youtube subs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:46:39 No.6259475 Report

Quoted By: >>6259592 >>6259861

>>6259216
>but is it an actual fact with something backing it up
It was not a meme in Q1 2021 but things took a turn upward for her and the whole company and branch in April 2021 for some reason.
Gura is inclining since them and, even without the incline she is one of the heaviest hitters of the company, averaging under 10k in only 4 days on record in her whole Holo career (something fucking impressive!)

Here is all her streams over 30k in 2021, she found her multiple niches and don't depend at all on collabs or special occasions to hit big numbers.
Actually she is one of the only ones that can make a sponsored stream hit big numbers, that's somewhat impressive in its own merit and may land her even more sponsorships

>2021-05-07 :: 123716/194140 : 【NEW OUTFIT REVEAL】Gawr Gura #CatShark
>2021-01-23 :: 33766/66971 :: [2MILLION PARTY] HOLOLIVE KARAOKE!! #gurats2M
>2021-06-21 :: 48215/54693 :: BIRTHDAY PARTY!! #GURABIRTHDAY2021
>2021-02-15 :: 38352/48384 :: [UNARCHIVED] Ukelele Karaoke! VDay Edition
>2021-06-27 :: 35112/46794 :: 【MINECRAFT】Summer Festival in JP server!
>2021-05-08 :: 41408/46349 :: [PUMMEL PARTY] CAUTION! HIGHLY CONCENTRATED LEVELS OF CUTE!! [ANNOUNCEMENT!]
>2021-06-19 :: 39253/44821 :: [UNARCHIVED KARAOKE] Shark sing! Let's sing together !
>2021-06-27 :: 31740/40170 :: 【MINECRAFT】Summer Festival in JP server!
>2021-01-01 :: 29829/38629 :: [HAPPY NEW YEAR 2021] Happy A Year
>2021-03-14 :: 31174/37813 :: Reacting to my Debut Stream.
>2021-06-07 :: 31455/37228 :: [The Henry Stickmin Collection] hewo hewo
>2021-05-02 :: 27882/35284 :: [CAMPFIRE SINGING] Gather round y'all
>2021-05-11 :: 29632/34970 :: 【Resident Evil Village】LETS GOO
>2021-05-20 :: 16268/34505 :: 【Resident Evil Village】Finale! Again!【SPOILER WARNING】
>2021-02-09 :: 26557/33434 :: [MINECRAFT] Hardcore until I d i e
>2021-01-31 :: 27225/32134 :: [MINI KARAOKE] Ft. Princess Connect! Re: Dive!
>2021-02-17 :: 26476/32036 :: "[Papers, Please] Pwease, Sir"
>2021-05-01 :: 27652/31843 :: [FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN'] holo night funkin' !
>2021-05-18 :: 23464/31334 :: 【Resident Evil Village】yes yes
>2021-05-22 :: 17539/30972 :: [FRIDAY NIGHT FUNKIN'] RE MATCH + WEEK 7
>2021-07-06 :: 18904/30536 :: [NIGHT DELIVERY] shark in the box
>2021-02-19 :: 25262/30010 :: [GROOVE COASTER] HERE WE GO RHYTHM HERE WE GO

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:46:56 No.6259479 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259343
well you get to see the ducks fingers in some gloves and hear it sitzling so if you are into that its pretty great, also her tasting it at the end was pretty cute
>>6259362
shit man it all comes down to what kind of dickwaving you want to do. i don't watch en and my oshi is Nenechi so i got no horse in the race i just like the nummbers autism

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:47:37 No.6259499 Report

Quoted By: >>6259552 >>6259621

>>6259407
EN streamers also seem to have been hit harder by the live view bug making it look like they have a lot fewer viewers than they actually do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:50:04 No.6259552 Report

Quoted By: >>6259606 >>6259621 >>6259686 >>6259696 >>6259828 >>6260827

>>6259499
Is there evidence for this? Or mostly speculation? Most people seem to agree on the reason that EN has fans all over the world for the generally lower Live view, instead of the bug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:51:33 No.6259576 Report

Quoted By: >>6259682 >>6261422

>>6259252
welp, kuzuha woke up. There'll be a new top 10 for the next thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:52:14 No.6259592 Report

Quoted By: >>6259672 >>6259698

>>6259475
>Actually she is one of the only ones that can make a sponsored stream hit big numbers
Should Pekora be another one? I checked and her last sponsored stream, the Bleach one, hit 30k, while Gura has not hit that number on too many of her sponsored streams save for the Priconne karaoke

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:53:13 No.6259606 Report

Quoted By: >>6259694 >>6260958

>>6259552
just check how much the ENs dropped in december when compared to JPs

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:53:59 No.6259621 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259499
>EN streamers also seem to have been hit harder by the live view bug
>>6259552
>Is there evidence for this?
It would take inside information to qualify as hard "evidence" but I could show that the only period on record that ALL holo streamers average fewer viewers than the the previous 7 days period would be the weeks between Dec 2 2020 and Dec 8 2020, concidentally the week Youtube pushed an update on how they count Live Viewers.

That's not evidence, but it's a similar "hint" towards what happened than a bloody knife with someone's fingerprints jammed into some poor sod chest would be

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:56:16 No.6259672 Report

Quoted By: >>6259755

>>6259592
Pekora is a monster and the one "professional" streamer among all. It is not just that she can get a sponsored stream perform well, it is the reason she is one of the faces of Nissin Curry Mesh in Japan regular over the air broadcast television right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:56:29 No.6259682 Report

Quoted By: >>6259715 >>6259722 >>6259772

>>6259576
Its 12am in Japan. How do these daily top 10s even work? 12am or wait for yeaterdays streams to leave?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:56:40 No.6259686 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259552
A lot of anons were posting comparisons of when this started showing people with similar CCV ending their streams with wildly different view counts. People in the west and people who have larger western audiences seemed to have been affected more heavily for some reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:56:57 No.6259694 Report

Quoted By: >>6259851 >>6259985

>>6259606
Yes, I do know about this issue, but without further information one can only use this as hint, and no more on how much (percentage, amount, etc). A strict drop from 40k to 20k could be that 50% is cut, or only 20% is cut and 30% loses interest, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:56:58 No.6259696 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259552
Yeah there's been quite a lot.
You can use holostats to look at what they were getting pre December vs December onward.
There was a huge sudden drop off that's most apparent when comparing Minecraft live views.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:57:03 No.6259698 Report

Quoted By: >>6259735

>>6259592
NTA
29,8 but yeah it was an amzing show
honestly all holos taking part delievered surprisingly solid numbers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:58:20 No.6259715 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259682
I wait for yesterday's stream to leave. Marine's RE2 stream was on the 11th. You should wait for top 25 instead in a few hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:58:44 No.6259722 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259682
Kuzuhas number will probably ranked in the next ranking after this, I guess

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 15:59:18 No.6259735 Report

Quoted By: >>6259809

>>6259698
The difference between professionals who can sell anything vs amateurs.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:00:02 No.6259755 Report

Quoted By: >>6259835

>>6259672
Japanese "curry" is not even fucking curry. Pajeets must pop a vein every time they see anime with Japanese adoring a regular stew be called
>curry

I've had both, Japanese one tastes like it was made by a 12 years old mentally challenged indian chick with no taste buds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:00:46 No.6259772 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259682
I normally post them past 2am JST if there are people still streaming. If not, then I do it right after midnight JST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:02:18 No.6259809 Report

Quoted By: >>6259852 >>6259865

>>6259735
What would the amateurs be in these case? Indie vtubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:02:54 No.6259828 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259552
Nothing but a speculation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:03:23 No.6259835 Report

Quoted By: >>6259887

>>6259755
sir this is the numbers thread, not the foodie thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:03:52 No.6259851 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259694
30%of your audience doesn't lose interest in a single day

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:03:53 No.6259852 Report

Quoted By: >>6260034

>>6259809
>What would the amateurs be in these case?
Sadly, most of HoloEN
>fucking Ame sucking at Gacha and blowing the chance of impress the whales with her DEV ACCOUNT
it made for a tasty troll tho, but imagine what could have been.
She didn't even studied the game she was playing, there is a reason Matsuri makes fucking 40k dollars on a gacha stream, and it is not because she goes in cluelessly

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:04:07 No.6259861 Report

Quoted By: >>6259927 >>6260018 >>6260066

>>6259413
Huh? I'm not seeing a jumping around? In fact gura is starting Q3 strong with consistent time schedule of 9am or 10am JST.
If you think gura having different peak ccv during different games is jumping around then you're clearly new. In fact in the image, you can see that DBD viewership is higher even though its longer and she played more than twice already.

>>6259475
Gura has a weird tendency to not get higher numbers on Collab on her channel.
I know you scaled the vertical axis to fit gura's big numbers but it makes her incline seem smaller. Correct me if im wrong but im eyeballing the figures, so she had her lowest average live viewers (12K) during March then used the momentum from her outfit stream and song to now get 20k average. Insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:04:21 No.6259865 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259809
HoloEN

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:04:45 No.6259879 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259407
You have to remember that Japanese members also streams at the same time while an en member always gets to solo american primetime

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:05:09 No.6259887 Report

Quoted By: >>6259974

>>6259835
>jap curry doesn't even register in the scotsville scale
That's the numbers for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:06:52 No.6259927 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259861
>I know you scaled the vertical axis to fit gura's big numbers
I auto scale both metrics to fit their peaks and then match both to the highest so nothing is "out of the charts":
It is still clear that she is at the highest point after the "debut craze" and the YT change in algo

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:08:36 No.6259970 Report

Quoted By: >>6260024

What?!? I thought this fag only got 70k why did it go up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:08:49 No.6259974 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259887
now use those numbers to estimate what the sales would be if they sold indian ramen. Its retarded but its my kind of retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:09:20 No.6259985 Report

Quoted By: >>6260958

>>6259694
EN had been holding pretty consistent live viewers for 3 months and suddenly they lose 33-50% of their live views.
It's very unlikely any amount of that drop was due to losing interest especially because it affected everyone at the same time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:10:26 No.6260018 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259861
It started before that when she started playing meme games, with Smol Ame game and Friday Night Funkin' then leading up with a Karaoke and finally the costume stream on Fashion Week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:10:41 No.6260024 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259970
Playboard always takes abit of time to process the sc numbers, the numbers immediately after the stream ends are almost always lower than actuality

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:10:51 No.6260030 Report

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Marine - $64,077
Rushia - $63,006
Pekora - $48,178
Calliope - $44,817
Ayame - $42,565
Miko - $42,056
Kiara - $40,419
Subaru - $38,755
Coco - $32,575
Noel - $31,174
Suisei - $29,888
Okayu - $26,412
Aqua - $23,885
Gura (2m) - $23,411
Gura (1m) - $17,547
Korone - $17,359
Amelia - $15,976
Fubuki - $14,995
Ina - $13,105
Haato - $11,008
Matsuri - $8,578
Gura (3m) - $5,316

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:11:00 No.6260034 Report

Quoted By: >>6260147 >>6260159

>>6259852
I see, is there a certain set of skills or seniority to be acquired before one is considered a professional? On that note, why are the amateurs granted many privilege that some JP holos are slow to get? nendoroid for Gura, multiple music CDs in stores for Mori, pop-up figures for the whole Gen, a convention of Gura in JP, etc

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:12:26 No.6260066 Report

Quoted By:

>>6259861
ogey

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:13:43 No.6260093 Report

Quoted By: >>6260166

This Electone is really helping Luna with her numbers.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:16:04 No.6260147 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260034
>why are the amateurs granted many privilege that some JP holos are slow to get? nendoroid for Gura, multiple music CDs in stores for Mori, pop-up figures for the whole Gen, a convention of Gura in JP, etc
Mori is a, actual musician, Gura is the most subscribed VTuber and fastest growing and EN is a "5 people" generation as easy to sell as a package deal as Gen 5.

Nothing really requiring "professionalism" there

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:16:32 No.6260159 Report

Quoted By: >>6260192 >>6260253

>>6260034
I see, is there a certain set of skills or seniority to be acquired before one is considered a professional?
Basically, do your homework on what you're trying to sell and accept or reject it based on whether you think you can sell it. Don't accept as sponsorship just phone it in. That's it.

On that note, why are the amateurs granted many privilege that some JP holos are slow to get? nendoroid for Gura, multiple music CDs in stores for Mori, pop-up figures for the whole Gen, a convention of Gura in JP, etc
All of that is inconsequential to advertising/sponsorship and it's first and foremost a product of their own popularity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:16:54 No.6260166 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260093
Luna has been inclining really hard lately. The piano stream is also one of the reason why people tuned in to her few moons ago. She has found her niche and it's going really well for the hime

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:17:59 No.6260192 Report

Quoted By: >>6260333

>>6260159
What happened to my quote arrows?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:21:12 No.6260253 Report

Quoted By: >>6260292 >>6260301 >>6260306

>>6260159
>product of their own popularity
Is there a reason why the amateurs can acquire the popularity they have currently? The brand of hololive is one thing Im aware of, or the recent event of Coco graduation that help boost everyone. Or the amateur here is referring only to sponsored streams, and not all streams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:22:33 No.6260292 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260253
The conversation revolved around sponsorship and advertising. Why would it involve anything else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:22:55 No.6260301 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260253
It only refers to them doing sponsorships.
As vtubers in general they’re all on the more professional side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:23:12 No.6260306 Report

Quoted By: >>6260446

>>6260253
>Or the amateur here is referring only to sponsored streams, and not all streams?
Only to sponsored streams. "Amateur" in this context is equivalent to "not taking this with the same seriousness as the regular streams":

All Holochicks are professionals, they do this for a living after all. But only some take sponsored streams seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:24:33 No.6260333 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260192
I ate it. Have numbers as compensation:
60K for IRS debut.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:29:44 No.6260446 Report

Quoted By: >>6260493 >>6260656 >>6260998

>>6260306
Is there a reason one could speculate as to why they dont take the sponsored streams professionally? Wouldnt "just wing it" makes future sponsors less likely to want to use the amateurs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:31:53 No.6260489 Report

Quoted By:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIAG4UgG-ks
7k for a zatsudan. Up from the last one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:32:02 No.6260493 Report

Quoted By:

>>6260446
Kiara tries to make it entertaining.
Mori has been getting better but it was obvious if she didn’t like it before.
Gura and Ame can’t pretend to like a game they’re not interested in. This is also why Ame refuses to take sponsorships unless mandatory.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:36:48 No.6260596 Report

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Numberfags, anyone know if there was an update from this anon? https://warosu.org/vt/thread/S3499591#p3534717

He was scraping chat data and also mentioned about putting together a dashboard. I'm most interested in the unique viewers in chat over time, statistics about the type of messages sent in chat, and nationalities of people in chat.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:39:20 No.6260656 Report

Quoted By: >>6260840

>>6260446
>Wouldnt "just wing it" makes future sponsors less likely to want to use the amateurs?
Yes

>>6260446
>Is there a reason one could speculate as to why they dont take the sponsored streams professionally?
Same reason "senior developer" and "junior developer" exists as a concept (as an example of another profession). Work experience improves your understanding of what is important and what isn't

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:46:08 No.6260827 Report

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>>6259552
right in the exact tme as it happened, different streamers had different drops live

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:46:32 No.6260840 Report

Quoted By: >>6260922

>>6260656
>Work experience improves your understanding of what is important and what isn't
An example of Gura/Ame above, would she be able to learn and adapt to be more professional? Or if any chumbud/teamate here can answer, her personality could make it impossible for her to care/learn about it?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:49:29 No.6260922 Report

Quoted By: >>6260969 >>6260972

>>6260840
>An example of Gura/Ame above, would she be able to learn and adapt to be more professional?
There is a reinforcement feedback at play that can teach even the dumbest person
>the better you do a job the more job offers you get, the more money you make
>the worse, the less, the fewer
It all ends up hinging on whether the person wants the money or not

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:51:01 No.6260958 Report

Quoted By: >>6260990

>>6259985
Looking at the chart >>6259606 there are JP holos like Suisei, Flare, Mio, Rushia, Fubuki, Shion, Miko, Korone, Polka and Nene who also had a hard drop in live views at the same time, with a roughly similar percentage to EN (30% - 50% decrease). Where's the actual evidence that EN were the only ones hit harder by the live viewers algorithm change?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:51:18 No.6260969 Report

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>>6260922
>It all ends up hinging on whether the person wants the money or not
We know Ame didn't.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:51:30 No.6260972 Report

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>>6260922
>It all ends up hinging on whether the person wants the money or not
the thing is the holos have several sources of income so some of them just never do thing x because y and z bring in more than enough money for them

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:52:36 No.6260990 Report

Quoted By: >>6261231

>>6260958
They’re not the only ones.
Those with big EN audiences got hit worse than those without.
This seems to apply to Nijisanji as well.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 16:52:48 No.6260998 Report

Quoted By: >>6261294

>>6260446
because a professional shill stream is not fun to watch. I would rather watch someone fumble around trying to justify the existence of scarlet nexus and not take it seriously than lie and try and convince me its good with a straight face. this is why peko is such a good advertiser channel as well, she has a 100% guaranteed 30k core of live viewers, whereas EN audiences will skip a shill and see if people say its worth the view later.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:02:32 No.6261231 Report

Quoted By: >>6261270 >>6261574

>>6260990
Mio dropped by 50% and I don't think she's generally considered to have a big EN audience. Towa is known to have one of the bigger non-JP audiences and her numbers were barely touched. I don't think there's any evidence that the drop, whatever it is, targeted EN/foreign viewers specifically.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:04:13 No.6261270 Report

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>>6261231
there are a lot of theories around the drop. some say people using addblock no longer count, some say embeded views no longer count (so anyone using jetri wouldn't which would hit holos more)

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:05:13 No.6261294 Report

Quoted By: >>6261376 >>6261428 >>6261506 >>6261524

>>6260998
Thanks for the answers of all the anons. I would like to move on to another topic if possible. Based on Gura number, if we go by CCV only, she is not that big, smaller than Subaru even. Yet people said that getting a nendoroid is a sign that someone is really popular in JP, or that the person has made it. Is there truth to this, or the nendoroid is no difference than a figurine, and doesnt mean that the character is popular at all?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:09:07 No.6261376 Report

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>>6261294
Because raw sub counts are still considered a measure of popularity, simple as that.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:11:31 No.6261422 Report

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>>6259252
>>6259576
Kuzuha is maintaining 18k for nearly 1.5 hours now any chance it breaks the 22K?

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:11:44 No.6261428 Report

Quoted By: >>6261504

>>6261294
That's why we don't go by CCV only.
She's not only the most subbed, she has 1 million followers on Twitter, her song is the fastest growing, her influence is extremely clear to anyone.
There are even some JOPs that got to know about Hololive through her.
Don't get me wrong, Subaru, Marine, Aqua, Pego, FBK, etc. Are all extremely influential, but you can't downplay Gura just because she gets slightly less CCV.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:14:35 No.6261504 Report

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>>6261428
Of course, not trying to downplay her, just wanting to know if getting a nendoroid is an actual sign of popularity, like some people said, or it is just a figurine, and doesnt necessarily mean that the character is popular.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:14:36 No.6261506 Report

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>>6261294
https://note.com/or_ele/n/nf17dc704eb3b
its from 2020 but even bag then nearly 7% of her sc were in yen so there is some people in jp who would want it. still i think in her case they count more on oversee sales

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:15:26 No.6261524 Report

Quoted By: >>6261602 >>6261651

>>6261294
>Based on Gura number, if we go by CCV only, she is not that big
Yes she is
> smaller than Subaru even.
No she is not.
>pic related
Why must you turn this numbers thread into a house of lies?

>Is there truth to this, or the nendoroid is no difference than a figurine
Both are a sign that the company is confident they will make back the tens of thousands of upfront money necessary to put these in production, a widget that sells at 100 bucks a pop.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:17:33 No.6261574 Report

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>>6261231
are you blind or just dumb? A few JPs with a close fall to the ENs doesnt compensate to the majority of JPs having a way smaller fall. Pekora had the same numbers as gura, but she dropped 10k while gura dropped 20k; marine and aqua did barely even drop; okayu only lost 0,1k, etc etc. You picking out singular cases of normal fluctuations instead of seeing the average of the whole group of 30 jps just proves your own stupidity.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:18:54 No.6261602 Report

Quoted By: >>6261758

>>6261524
My bad if my wording sounds like a lie, I cant have all the info you have to know, I can only based on some recent streams where Gura played some games and have less CCV than a Subaru morning talk stream and I assume she is not as big. And thanks for the answer on the nendoroid.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:20:41 No.6261651 Report

Quoted By: >>6261758

>>6261524
Those crazy nendoroids sales going to result in more partnerships.
I’ve seen them stay in the top 5 for anime merch sites for days at a time.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Jul 2021 17:24:02 No.6261758 Report

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>>6261602
>My bad if my wording sounds like a lie,
"Why must you turn this X into a house of lies" is an old Simpsons meme ,not an accusation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRXmfIlOzJQ

>>6261651
>Those crazy nendoroids sales going to result in more partnerships.
"Paolo in Tokyo" has a good episode on behind the scenes on GoodSmile figuring and nendo manufacturing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzJNEcoCT-o

It gives a good behind the scenes look on GoodSmile itself and the work behind creating these figurines and nendos.
It clearly shows it's not chink shit and totally worth the price tag

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