>>693011>like shonen mangaMade for a public that is native, already knows the spoken language well enough to function in society, had at least 3 years of education (knows about 440 kanji), knows how to differentiate forms of address and levels of politeness, as well modulation to not fuck up their language learning with non-standard japanese and end up sounding like a turbo-autist otaku.
Too much for a raw beginner.
>simple vnThe very few simple VNs have tons of text with loads of kanji, idiomatic expressions and others. Also, all the problems of the above apply.
It's made for natives and visual novels target an older audience - fucking phoenix wright doesn't have furigana and has tons of legal jargon. On average though most are aimed at a public thats 16+ if not 18+, and assume that level of competency.
The few far and between that are easier to understand have been made for people who have finished 6 years of basic education - i.e. they know not just everyday vocabulary but have a wide range of knowldege and also know about 1,026 kanji.
Too much for a beginner.
>nip forumsNice way to fuck yourself with netspeak - and japanese netspeak is broken as fuck. If the idea worked in principle, this would result in you speaking like fucking twitch chat.
>online dictionary at your side to translate the words quicklyIt'll not be quick.
You'll take hours to make sense out of a simple paragraphs since you'll have to take a look at the works and grammar every fucking time as you never had any basic vocabulary to begin with - it'll be the equivalent of knowing that the order of sentences in english Subject - Verb - Object but know knowing a single word to fill in on those slots and having to look up every single one.
Also, good luck looking up stuff with kanji without furigana that you don't know, you'll at the bare minimum be spending time with OCR software, toying with text hook and parser apps, or struggling to figure out radicals or guess stroke order to draw them count to look them up on online dictionaries.
Besides, words don't map one by one, forms of speech and expressing concepts are different,, the subjects of sentences are often supressed - all which will leave you confused as fuck.
>The easier way is to just jump in at stuff you enjoy and feel like you are actually getting tangible resultsYou'll be so bogged down trying to translate shit that it'll destroy your enjoyment of whatever media you're trying to consume - you'll burn out.
The only thing you'll get is frustration for the average Japanese learner that'll make them quit within 30 days unless they have loads of free time available and ungodly high levels of autism.
Consuming content is good, but it will initially be tough and somewhat of a grind, even with audio-visual stuff, you'll start by grasping 5~10% of what you come across and you'll be mostly getting it by sentence fragments and the context it gives.
Having enough vocabulary (about 2000 words, which at a rate of 20 a day you'll be done in 3~4 months) and some internalized understanding of grammar will go a long way to help you not being miserable.
Also, there's stuff that's easier for beginners, such start with graded readers, Doraemon, NHK basic news, etc. that will ease a learner into reading before they make the jump to something like shonen or easy literature (which will not be otaku shit, a learner will have an easier time reading japanese Harry Potter than trying to read Haruhi).
