>>6413252For Gen 5, they were doing well, but took a big hit when Aloe retired, then when EN debut only 1 month later. Other than Botan who's always been in the top 10 Hololivers for live viewers, the rest took till January to really come into their own.
Lamy - SC leader, best at collabing
Polka - musician and radio MC
Nene - top idol, gets to be in a lot of lives
Botan - top viewed, Hololive's most desired for esports collabs and promotions.
For Nijisanji's Selene, I watch them a lot and they had a really bad start.
They debut at the same time as Holo5 with terrible promotion, most people found out a week later that Nijisanji even had debuts too.
They were promoted as a singing group, and they're all great singers, but only Akane really sticks to it and keeps making songs.
Another minus is Nijisanji still does the bs of making the designs first and having people audition for them instead of working with the liver on what fits their stream persona. Other than Ngo, none of the girls liked how young they look and Akane got done real dirty with her plain and wide-eyed character, when she's the most mature of the group with an old lady's sense of humor.
Most of the Selene are decent at english but the Nijisanji Eop buff is weak and the one pushing the most, Akane had to take a break right after EN debut, not sure if they can really take off in that direction.