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/kuro/ - Black Corpo General - Selen vs Nijisanji edition

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:13:32 No.68325206 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>68326779 >>68326875 >>68338636 >>68348642 >>68351257 >>68359497 >>68362314

News:
>Anycolor terminates Selen with a 3 page document
>Selen's RM confirms suicide attempt
>Selen's RM accuses management and livers of bullying
>Fans unsub from Niji channels and join Selen's RM's channel

Black Corpo: A corporation whose management and/or coworkers are one or more of the following
>abusive
>incompetent
>negligent

Confirmed black corpos:
>AkioAIR
>WACTOR
>Nijisanji

previous thread: >>65169054

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:19:05 No.68325586 Report

Quoted By: >>68325764 >>68329381

Niji termination document 1/3
It's been suspected for a while but this is definite fact now that Niji is a black company

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:20:22 No.68325682 Report

Quoted By: >>68325847 >>68326547

Dont blame people for attempting to yeet yourself donki

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:21:09 No.68325730 Report

Quoted By: >>68325847 >>68325900

Please add Cover to that list next time. Thanks

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:21:40 No.68325764 Report

Quoted By: >>68325900

>>68325586
Niji termination document 2/3
This documents and its contents were unnecessary for management to write, but they wrote and approved it anyway out of malice. Productivity and efficiency that other black corpos worship goes out the window when staff cares more about revenge and is full of personalities that are deliberately malicious

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:22:00 No.68325792 Report

Quoted By: >>68326145 >>68341786 >>68353500 >>68359621

Poor Rosemi caught in the crossfire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:22:12 No.68325806 Report

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People unfollowing the channels is the least of their worries, because the entire indie vtuber scene is just stabbing NijiEN over and over again with insults, and any artist who's worked with them breaking NDA to shit on them, and any who HASN'T worked with them swearing never to work with them period

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:22:40 No.68325847 Report

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>>68325682
>>68325730
NDF coming in as scheduled

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:23:19 No.68325900 Report

Quoted By: >>68326073 >>68334241

>>68325730
Niji wasn't on the list before because there was not enough proof (and the rrats weren't solid enough) to lend credence to the black corpo accusations. Recent events however have made it undeniable that Nijisanji is an abusive work environment and therefore a black company.
>>68325764
Niji termination document 3/3

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:25:14 No.68326049 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15lblFIXpHE

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:25:28 No.68326073 Report

Quoted By: >>68326490

>>68325900
Selen RM (Dokibird) hard-confirms what we strongly suspected was the truth - her suicide attempt. Dokibird further accuses Niji management and Niji streamers of bullying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:26:31 No.68326145 Report

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>>68325792
>Now under 500k
>She has to return the cake

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:26:46 No.68326162 Report

Quoted By: >>68326398

This is very entertaining to watch. What's the overseas bros reactions? Are they blacklisting and boycotting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:30:13 No.68326398 Report

Quoted By: >>68326646 >>68329039

>>68326162
Lots of artists have come out publicly to stating their intent to stop supporting nijisanji.
NijiJP is unfazed and thinks Nijisanji is in the right.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:31:24 No.68326490 Report

Quoted By: >>68361628

>>68326073
Dokibird further proceeds to use the terms "me" and "they" a clear distinction and declaration of "us vs them) language. Anons have speculated that this may lead into a possible "civil war" instead of the "all-out-war" prophesied by the late Pomu. Civil war replacing all out war echos history where the cold war replaced world war 3.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:32:14 No.68326547 Report

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>>68325682
kys enna

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:33:36 No.68326646 Report

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>>68326398
Do you mean NijiJP fans on 5ch or the bigger NijiJP fan community on twitter because I don't see how the tweetards can stay isolated and ignore this like 5ch does - especially when Niji black corpo stuff is trending rn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:35:25 No.68326779 Report

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>>68325206
Who's the next from Niji to fall? And will it be a graduation or termination?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:36:45 No.68326875 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325206
>>68325206
>Selen's RM accuses management and livers of bullying

Not quite: she accused someone “within nijisanji” of bullying- which everyone took to mean management. But she never said it was a liver.

Nijisanji in their 3 page bitchfest is the only time “liver(s) accused of being bullies” is ever brought up. They literally threw they own talents to the lions to save themselves.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:38:39 No.68327003 Report

Quoted By: >>68327406

A Black Corpo that is abusive but also incompetent
Incompetence:
>Sent NDAs with wrong or missing information to several artists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:42:38 No.68327244 Report

Quoted By: >>68334426

Niji Indonesia, Korea, India and now English failed.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:45:14 No.68327406 Report

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>>68327003
Black Corpos are infamous for late payments (see Akioair) or never paying at all (also see Akioair) unless contractors beg them.
Late payments are shameful and a sign of unprofessionalism and incompetence.
Selen choosing to pay artists out of pocket when they should have been paid by the company is enabling behavior - common behavior of victims caught in a culture of abuse.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:54:16 No.68327968 Report

Quoted By: >>68328126 >>68328240 >>68329859 >>68330397 >>68338503

Ex-Niji Manager Noor (who works for HoloID now) about Selen
Date unknown but seems recent because he mentions Selen
>Black Company Sign
Assigning managerial duties to employees or assigning extra duties that go above and beyond the scope of a negotiated contract - without a sufficient increase in pay or any pay at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:56:45 No.68328126 Report

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>>68327968
>>Assigning managerial duties to employees or assigning extra duties that go above and beyond the scope of a negotiated contract - without a sufficient increase in pay or any pay at all.
What do you mean, we give them a 2% rev split instead of 1.5%

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:57:58 No.68328211 Report

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Thanks for the updates /kuro/ sister, there's a lot of information that needs to be collated but not part of the dramahomo circle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 05:58:25 No.68328240 Report

Quoted By: >>68330469 >>68330509

>>68327968
that isn't Noor. What the poster is saying is what everyone knew to be the case - that Noor and Vihan ran NijiEN until very late 2022/very early 2023, whereupon they all got replaced by NijiJP staff and a 20 year old black woman who just graduated college until they got fired recently, in 2024 for an unknown reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:02:25 No.68328490 Report

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>>68327980
>a lot of things are about to happen

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:05:27 No.68328654 Report

Quoted By: >>68328804

So who is running Niji EN? It has to be "their" clique, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:08:07 No.68328804 Report

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>>68328654
until this position is filled:
https://open.talentio.com/r/1/c/ichikara-inc/pages/88917

some nijiJP tard that's getting ran over by the clique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:11:56 No.68329039 Report

Quoted By: >>68329205 >>68329546

>>68326398
Nah parrot came out recently with insider info saying that NijiJp was already pissed at En prior to all of this. Its anyones guess what they will do after a fuck up of this magnitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:14:53 No.68329205 Report

Quoted By: >>68330789

>>68329039
>citing parrot
at least produce the evidence he shows

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:17:31 No.68329381 Report

Quoted By: >>68330240

>>68325586
>update
X has added community notes about the artists mentioned in the termination notice
You know it's bad when twitter itself is shitting on you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:20:19 No.68329546 Report

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>>68329039
/kuro/ is about exposing black corpos, not cockgargling dramatubers like whatever the fuck your post is trying to say

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:24:30 No.68329859 Report

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>>68327968
i suspected how corrupt managment was long ago
how? the sign where very clear
-upper managment does the decisions, and not want to do the rest, thus push work lower down while cashing in
-middle managment is either full intern or same shithead trying to be part of the top
so either WONT do anything or push it eve ower down
Chain of command have rules,
1- you FOLLOW chain of command
2-UNLESS your superior is shit/incompetent/corrupt
Thsu why when a talent tried skiping and got in contact with someone COMPETENt at upper the middle SHIT their pants, why? because now upper has them mark as shit.
this only happen if upper has anyone competent or upper is so shity they will trow middle down the bus to keep their position
is all power and position games
as all hierarchies, is just politics, just at smaller scale

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:30:13 No.68330240 Report

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>>68329381
Get Bent chinkoid company

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:31:33 No.68330329 Report

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If more people were like Enna and Millie this world would be a better place

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:32:42 No.68330397 Report

Quoted By: >>68330509

>>68327968
>Ex-Niji Manager Noor (who works for HoloID now) about Selen
What tf are you talking about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:33:44 No.68330469 Report

Quoted By:

>>68328240
>a 20 year old black woman
Ina

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:34:18 No.68330509 Report

Quoted By:

>>68330397
>>68328240
My bad. I misread it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:38:56 No.68330789 Report

Quoted By: >>68331341

>>68329205
Go watch the damn video then. It hasnt gone anywhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 06:48:02 No.68331341 Report

Quoted By:

>>68330789
kill yourself shill

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:28:09 No.68333141 Report

Quoted By: >>68335778

I'm honestly surprised there haven't been more trolls in vanta's chat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:35:15 No.68333498 Report

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Jesas /kuro/ is feeding good today, vindication for all the rrats waved away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:51:57 No.68334241 Report

Quoted By: >>68334376 >>68335896

>>68325900
Sayu's document wasn't enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:52:52 No.68334290 Report

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Should we differentiate between NijiEN and NijiJP?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:54:39 No.68334376 Report

Quoted By: >>68335896

>>68334241
NTA but Sayu's reputation had been tarnished by Twitter cancellations. Selen's reputation was untarnished. It also shows that the problems with character assassination are institutional rather than a vindictive manager acting independently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 07:55:53 No.68334426 Report

Quoted By:

>>68327244
>now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:27:13 No.68335778 Report

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>>68333141
Why bother? Vanta isn’t part of the cubic zirconium 20 so trolls don’t know about him. Most of the outrage is coming from niji fans themselves who have been boiling over at the 40 days and 40 nights of silence. And anyone who did bother would get swpt up by his chat jannies.
Imagine having to celebrate your birthday on NijiEN’s 9/11 except this one was for sure an inside job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:30:30 No.68335896 Report

Quoted By: >>68336110 >>68337116

>>68334241
>>68334376
As much as I feel for Sayu, she was a literal who and infamous for being argumentative and hanging with dramatubers.
It’s like the sayings go
>First they came for the gays and I was not a gay so I didn’t speak up
>Then they came for the Poles and I was not a pole so I didn’t speak up
>Then they came for Selen, someone beloved inside and out of the nijisphere and the whole fanbase exploded
Zaion just didn’t have enough clout to make people care as much as Selen does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:36:10 No.68336110 Report

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>>68335896
100% agreed, Zaion's reputation and duration within the company guaranteed her character assassination would be done with much more confidence.
Selen's though? Even Niji acknowledges it was going to cause waves.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:40:25 No.68336262 Report

Quoted By: >>68336376 >>68339866 >>68355288

>escapes black company treatment because the bad management got terminated instead of her

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:41:30 No.68336299 Report

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFoGNZ05CJw
Selen's new theme song from one purple girl to another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 08:43:14 No.68336376 Report

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>>68336262
Hope reins eternal

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:02:25 No.68337080 Report

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Translator who works for the company that localized Racettear and other JP games into English has stated that Niji’s document is outrageous compared to what other JP companies publicize. Acting worse than the average souless JP corp is a bad sign.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:03:38 No.68337116 Report

Quoted By: >>68337969

>>68335896
Doki clearly portrays herself as a victim against the company immediately after the announcement.

Sayu waited months to say something, and even then was wishy washy and blamed herself for many things (which may be true but still muddles the entire message).
She could have easily played the doxxing/harrassment/toxic workplace angle right away, and be supercharged with almost as much clout.
Especially with the memes that were happening at that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:24:16 No.68337969 Report

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>>68337116
Niji was in a much stronger position back then. They still had Pomu, Mysta, and Nina. Zaion delaying her leaks about her manager suspending her for deez nuts and other insanity definitely had a factor of how she was perceived but even releasing her side right after the suspension would not have picked up as much steam as Selen is doing now, against a battered niji worn down by yabs every single month for over a year now.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:38:27 No.68338488 Report

Quoted By: >>68338608 >>68339240

First indie streamers dunk on nijien, then commissioned artists, now music artist lilypichu reveals she gave permission for Selen to cover her song in aug 2022. Who’s next? Riggers? The 3D people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:39:00 No.68338503 Report

Quoted By: >>68353718

>>68327968
>20 bucks for a video
Wtf, that'd be like an hour of work. Maybe several if you outsource it to the Phillipines or something, but even they'd need to be very desperate to actually consider it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:41:32 No.68338608 Report

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>>68338488
She already did that right after the cover was taken down2 months ago

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:42:18 No.68338636 Report

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>>68325206
I kinda hope she'll put out a statement of her own defending the other livers. That'd put all the blame between her and management. Or rather just management, cause no one really believes them anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 09:58:22 No.68339240 Report

Quoted By: >>68363851

>>68338488
Merch seller Studio Nekomata has blacklisted Nijisanji. They are selling off their current stock of niji merch and donating the rest to mental health organizations who they will choose at a later time.
Even the fucking merchants don’t want to deal with niji. This is serious stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 10:16:10 No.68339866 Report

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>>68336262
IRyS is so hot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 11:14:01 No.68341786 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325792
When will she be free?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 11:51:42 No.68343134 Report

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I know Niji got the bulk of the attention recently but it looks like Re:AcT is up to their shenanigans too when they terminated Taran Mikoshi
https://twitter.com/Re_AcT_/status/1752934811902095687

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 12:59:22 No.68345838 Report

Quoted By: >>68345892 >>68352173 >>68353807 >>68354034

Doki blocks milie which confirms millie as a bully from the clique

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 13:00:25 No.68345892 Report

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>>68345838
Sorry. Rpr unfollowed millie, doki blocked a millie-stan

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 14:02:08 No.68348642 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325206
cute

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 14:58:55 No.68351257 Report

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>>68325206
Add OWOZU to the list of black corpos, biggest spic agencies that took WACTOR's market ended up being just as black mistreating 9 talents, scamming one of them out of 3k USD and invasion of privacy of another one.

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Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:03:00 No.68351467 Report

Quoted By: >>68361338

The vtuber formerly known as Mirei Gundou

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:09:02 No.68351781 Report

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hello tourist here, i just wanna see the meltdown, idgaf about these holes, vtuber meatbags are getting replaced by AI anyways

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:17:04 No.68352173 Report

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>>68345838
>which confirms millie
That's a bit of a stretch. If she blocks Millie herself or is continuously blocking Millie defenders then I'd believe it.

Just seems like she's blocking people to distance herself from the drama.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:41:24 No.68353500 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325792
I'll save her don't worry bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:41:34 No.68353507 Report

Quoted By:

bump

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:45:37 No.68353718 Report

Quoted By: >>68354568

>>68338503
>Maybe several if you outsource it to the Phillipines or something
DINGDINGDINGDING
They got used to outsourcing shit to china, pajeets and pinoys. The only reason this worked is probably the people doing videos for 20$ a vid didn't know what the actual rates would be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:47:10 No.68353807 Report

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>>68345838
>keeps baiting
>keeps poking the shitpile
Oh nooo~ UwU~ why did you ban me~ completely unprovoked as well~ so sowwwyy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 15:51:27 No.68354034 Report

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>>68345838
If you looked up the actual timestamps before the account was protected you'd've seen the block happened before the above post. Go post misleading timestamps somewhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 16:01:05 No.68354568 Report

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>>68353718
It's probably because $20 dollars is enough to rent an apartment in India.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 16:15:17 No.68355288 Report

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>>68336262
I fucking love how playfully slutty she is desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 17:43:02 No.68359497 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325206
awwww

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 17:45:12 No.68359621 Report

Quoted By:

>>68325792
standing around doing fuck all while your wavemate gets bullied into attempting suicide
yeah, poor rosemi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 18:16:06 No.68361141 Report

Quoted By: >>68361515

It happened.
Watch the news tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 18:19:50 No.68361338 Report

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>>68351467
Gundou has a bone to pick with them, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 18:23:03 No.68361515 Report

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>>68361141
What did?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 18:25:01 No.68361628 Report

Quoted By: >>68363978 >>68366104

>>68326490
Oh god she's going to stick with Selen's whole laughing schtick isn't she?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 18:36:53 No.68362314 Report

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>>68325206
I'll miss this peak sex design a lot but I'm more than happy to spill seed to her bird form too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 19:03:36 No.68363851 Report

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>>68339240
they actually sold out of merch and donated/or are going to donate the funds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 19:06:01 No.68363978 Report

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>>68361628
>shtick
She was doing it as Doki too anon, except it was even more raucous and obnoxious

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 06 Feb 2024 19:52:44 No.68366104 Report

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>>68361628
She only laughs when she's hiding some pain.

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