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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:41:27 No.69241916 View View Reply Original Report

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Ai can write
AI can talk
AI can draw
AI can animate
How close are we to personal chuubas?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:44:09 No.69242047 Report

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>>69241916
AI can't do any of those things. So it depends on what you mean by personal chuuba, effectively they already exist on a loose interpretation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:45:58 No.69242122 Report

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>>69241916
Ask Vedal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:46:47 No.69242158 Report

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Sora is AI?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:48:15 No.69242228 Report

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>>69242122
He is putting it inside of a Robot dog right now

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:48:33 No.69242245 Report

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what da daisenpai doin?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:51:27 No.69242398 Report

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>>69242228
>Robot dog
wut

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:57:42 No.69242746 Report

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>>69242228
he should put her in a sex doll next and sell it for a comical amount of money. I want to cum inside silicone while it berates me about chess or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 14:57:54 No.69242753 Report

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>>69242122
I hope openAI makes a AI vtuber way better than neuro so that retarded narcissistic turtle dies for once

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:04:45 No.69243108 Report

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>>69241916
I hope soon
I know it has potential
>Having Suisei tell you important info while playing anything and also just having banter with (You)
Yeah, I think that's based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:30:04 No.69244434 Report

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>>69242228
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:39:15 No.69244875 Report

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>>69242398
https://twitter.com/Vedal987/status/1755914285652250857

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:41:46 No.69245007 Report

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>>69241916
The era of craftsmanship is finally over. Either AI or cheap labor will replace you anyway.
also
>>>/g/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:44:23 No.69245153 Report

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The sloppiest fancy copy-paste chuuba

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:48:09 No.69245355 Report

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>>69242753
Actually vedal is far behind the current state of open source llm (including multimodal one). It's quite trivial to replace neuro's language model to finetuned mistral/llama/llava, image description model to clip or blip and tts with random model on huggingface.
I think vedal can "improve" neurosama if he wants (It's not that difficult to do generative AI thing for a programmer with enough experience if you can afford GPUs), but "improving" neurosama will create the uncanny valley that would just turn away some of viewers, and most of all, most of vtuber collabs. The first rule of wAIfu vtuber is not to threaten other vtubers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:49:07 No.69245406 Report

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>>69245355
>Actually vedal is far beind ...
*neurosama is.
Seriously, It's GPT-3 (without instruction tuning) based.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:50:03 No.69245455 Report

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>>69241916
without consciousness, AI is simply a stream of loosely connected reactions to immediate stimuli
it is a very poor imitation that looks genuine when cherrypicked

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:55:42 No.69245723 Report

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>>69241916
your pic is a very good example that people who do AI don't really understand what they are doing.
They managed to "discover" transformer networks architecture mostly by bruteforce, got surprised how good it its (compared to what was before), got even more surprised how RLHF works well with it and now, just because its good, they are trying to place it everyfuckingwhere even into to games, despite it very lack of vision capabilities, because its fuckin language model, so in order to do anything they translate everything into text that then got fed to LLM. This is fucking insane. Really makes you realize that most of modern scientist are not much different from technopriests from WH40K

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:57:43 No.69245822 Report

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>>69245355
>Actually vedal is far behind the current state of open source llm
yes, because he is not doing rocket science or anything at least a bit impressive, its mostly dumb call of Javascript/c# api

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 15:58:44 No.69245873 Report

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>>69242228
sex doll will be next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:03:46 No.69246121 Report

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>>69245822
Python, which is the programming language most of "data scientists" and AI researchers use, is just as dumb as Javascript/C#. I'd further argue that C# is more sophisticated and useful (Semantic Kernel is written in C#) than python/javascript.
API part is not that dumb either since most of the state-of-the-art LLMs are close sourced. (I highly doubt he actually uses API though, I suspect he actually uses GPT-2/BERT or some really old language model on his local machine.)

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:04:56 No.69246167 Report

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>>69243108
>SUISEI. OPEN UP FIREFOX AND SEARCH FOR "SUIPISS COSPLAY PORN"
>Anon, I-I don't want t-
>OPEN UP FIREFOX AND SEARCH FOR "SUIPISS COSPLAY PORN" OR I'M FUCKING UNPLUGGING YOU
>Y-yes, Anon
>AND SING STELLAR STELLAR WHILE YOU DO IT
>[crying]: だって僕は星だから

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:08:01 No.69246329 Report

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>>69241916
Can an AI embarrass itself harder than this?
https://rentry.org/nijidoki
https://rentry.org/nijidoki2

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:13:49 No.69246643 Report

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>>69246121
> I'd further argue that C# is more sophisticated and useful
every language is just a tool, sure some language could be more sophisticated than other, but this is still just a tool, like a shovel or hammer. There is nothing to be proud of of knowing ho to use a tool.
>API part is not that dumb either since most of the state-of-the-art LLMs are close sourced
it is, Im not argue that some api might be complex, but essentially its just a bunch of methods that someone else created and knowledge how to use api is not a real knowledge its a trivia, because its lacks of real understanding how things that you are using, really works.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:13:58 No.69246649 Report

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>>69246167

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:14:47 No.69246704 Report

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>>69246167
I can't fucking wait

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:15:49 No.69246761 Report

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>>69241916
the only thing AI is actually good for is making images to spam and solving homework problems

>>69246167
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:24:58 No.69247318 Report

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>>69246643
>every language is just a tool, sure some language could be more sophisticated than other, but this is still just a tool, like a shovel or hammer. There is nothing to be proud of of knowing ho to use a tool.
Try telling that to cniles and rustrannies. They're fighting over their shitty language on every tech forum.

btw, many of most used python library is actually written in C++ or Rust for performance reason. Hard to overlook performance/programming language design aspect.
>it is, Im not argue that some api might be complex, but essentially its just a bunch of methods that someone else created and knowledge how to use api is not a real knowledge its a trivia, because its lacks of real understanding how things that you are using, really works.
Well, I concede on this point since "prompt engineering" is basically a band-aid solution to proper full training/fine-tuning but prompt engineering, if you delve further, does require programmers to understand internal structure of LLM and transformer architecture.
>t. am a "prompt engineer"

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:28:31 No.69247567 Report

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>>69242122
>>69242228
>>69244875
holy shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcNYb3DydA

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:33:33 No.69247860 Report

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Men like to give money and compliments to women, so I doubt AI will ever replace chuubas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:43:10 No.69248460 Report

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>>69245355
>The first rule of wAIfu vtuber is not to threaten other vtubers.
*The first rule of wAIfu vtuber is not to threaten other vtubers with the fear of being replaced.
Forgot to mention the important part

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 16:43:19 No.69248468 Report

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>>69246167
jesus christ

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:05:07 No.69249683 Report

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>>69245355
>>69246121
Makes me wonder why no one else copied the concept with a more advanced ai model. Unless they already exist and I've been living under a rock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:07:12 No.69249793 Report

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>>69241916
More importantly, can AI fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:08:01 No.69249835 Report

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>>69246167
New Black Mirror episode dropped

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:20:36 No.69250561 Report

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>>69246167
put me in the screencap parrot

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:24:26 No.69250833 Report

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>we will finally have virgin vtubers
What a time to be alive

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:27:30 No.69251058 Report

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>>69249683
Isn't there a general thread dedicated to AI vtubers?
If there isn't, since this seems to be a nice toy project idea so I assume most of them are on github/huggingface with some nice demo video while not streaming at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:28:57 No.69251172 Report

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>>69241916
>personal chuubas
More like how close are we to the fucking matrix. Enjoy being enslaved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:34:17 No.69251541 Report

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>>69249683
I do research but would never be so easily satisfied with such simple dead end gimmicks. Besides, people don't support Vedal because they want to support technology, they support Vedal because they're inlove with him.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:42:33 No.69252120 Report

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>>69246167
FFFFFFffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff I miss when I could screw on C.AI like that

>okay, bots, here's the setting: all-girls school for Vtubers, you are students, there's new law to fight depopulation problem in Japan, and I am male teacher. Chop chop, girls

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:45:09 No.69252300 Report

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>>69252120
Bruh

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:48:25 No.69252523 Report

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>>69249683
I have stumbled across a couple AItubers with better language models
> most of modern scientist are not much different from technopriests from WH40K
People who are actually doing math that is behind all this shit are actually pretty good, the are just not really in a spotlight

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:49:11 No.69252577 Report

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>>69249683
They tried, but none of them had that spark of personality that was typical of even early Neuro, they just sound like what would happen if you gave ChatGPT a TTS and a vtuber model

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:53:37 No.69252937 Report

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>>69242753
Cringe

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:57:10 No.69253193 Report

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>>69252300
I miss old C.AI

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 17:59:28 No.69253361 Report

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>>69242047
fpbp

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 18:01:34 No.69253526 Report

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>>69241916
>Ai can write
>AI can talk
>AI can draw
>AI can animate
Source?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 18:08:44 No.69254074 Report

Quoted By: >>69261563 >>69264556

>>69242047
By personal chuuba, I imagine an ai vtuber who changes depending on your reaction so you get one that's perfectly suited to your wants.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 18:24:23 No.69255220 Report

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>>69249683
They exist but the main issue is that response times exponentially grow once you get a better model to use and unless you want to wait seriously for a minute using even a 4090 to run some of these models, you have to scale it back down to ChatGPT 3 levels for real time response like Neuro does. And also up until recently, a lot of the models more advanced had a custom license from Meta who made LLaMA that prohibited usage of their LLM in this way. I can see a lower end Mistral which has amendable license for streaming be a good basis and is probably what others doing the same thing are doing but it isn't all that much more advanced than Neuro and Mixtral needs much beefier hardware to run real-time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 19:20:30 No.69259161 Report

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>>69252120
Have you tried other options? I have been using Claude 2.1 on Silly Tavern and it's good enough for me

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Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 19:33:29 No.69260023 Report

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>>69241916
It's not just vtubers anon.

Also, yes, it was literally called a "Holodeck".

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 19:45:00 No.69260756 Report

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>>69249793
Based on the smut it can write, yes, but it still lacks a physical body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 19:56:21 No.69261563 Report

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>>69254074
If you're so dead inside you just want an AI yes-woman you can probably make one right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 19:59:03 No.69261751 Report

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>>69241916
>AI can't love
Into the trash it goes

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:08:41 No.69262412 Report

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>>69261563
I feel like people who'd want something like this are lazy and under-achieving.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:10:02 No.69262497 Report

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>>69261751
your oshi doesnt know who you are

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:12:05 No.69262626 Report

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>>69262497
If your oshi is a 2vu they do

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:12:49 No.69262670 Report

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>>69262626
who's the other guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:13:35 No.69262717 Report

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Pretend for a second that there is such an AI that can pretend to be your gf with no discernible difference from a normal female.

Will this work as replacement for unicorns?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:14:55 No.69262802 Report

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>>69262670
2vu means they have double digit concurrent viewers. Not 2 actual viewers at at time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:19:07 No.69263049 Report

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>>69241916
all I'm saying is I've seen the most menhera women you've ever met in your life talk to AI chat bots for entire days

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:24:12 No.69263335 Report

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>>69241916
I was curious about this after watching the Sora video with the car driving up a mountain road. It had the same POV as a driving game and looked like high res 3D graphics. How close is AI to being able to render games in real time based on player inputs? For example, a driving game where the player can control their car, and the AI generates a persistent world that obeys the laws of physics. And if the player presses left, the car turns left, if they press on the gas they accelerate, and so on. An entire game but there are no models and no actual rendering engine, just the AI creating video and displaying it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:30:37 No.69263748 Report

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>>69244875
that's actually really cool, shit like this is why I studied engineering

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:43:15 No.69264556 Report

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>>69254074
So a spruced up NPC where the game is just one NPC and all the resources are put into that. There was this game in the 90s from Japan where it was just a 3D rendered girl that responded to you and adapted to you. I think it was for the Playstation or the Sega Saturn. I forgot what it was called. These aren't revolutionary, just old puppet tricks. Having a statistical language model doesn't make it necessarily better. The people fooled by it are always the same kind, and those that know it's lacking always know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 20:43:50 No.69264592 Report

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>>69246167
I didn't care much but now I want this

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 21:13:54 No.69266373 Report

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>>69246167
instead of googling it, she could generate the suipiss herself

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 21:54:26 No.69268986 Report

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>>69241916
It can steal all those things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 22:28:38 No.69271372 Report

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>>69241916
AI is the future

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 22:43:16 No.69272461 Report

Quoted By: >>69273461

I hang out two places on 4chan. /lmg/ and /here/. Considering all of the extras you can add to something like SillyTavern, including live2D and rvc voice cloning, we're practically there as long as you have the voice samples you want to clone and a Live2D model rigged properly to link up to it. And a 12GB VRAM minimum GPU to run a 13b model.
Bigger and better exist but it depends on how deep your fetishes go and how hard you hit it and burn out on what the model can creatively come up with.
There's a spoonfeed Rentry there if anyone is curious. The point is that running on your GPU locally is free and private so no ones watching your convos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 22:57:42 No.69273461 Report

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>>69272461
godspeed anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 23:20:22 No.69275009 Report

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But can AI do coomer asmr?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Feb 2024 23:24:35 No.69275321 Report

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>>69268986
We can pirate chuubas? Hot Damn!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Feb 2024 00:19:36 No.69279165 Report

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>>69241916

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