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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:09:43 No.71170943 View View Reply Original Report

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Now that cover has put their flag down in the USA. What will be their next move? How should they respond to stop cover's monopoly over the vtuber world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:13:30 No.71171115 Report

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>>71170943
They just want to scrape up a few pennies on the loan margin for their stock, this isn't a future-forward company anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:14:47 No.71171166 Report

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>>71170943
Isn't anycolor's investor meeting in a few days? Yagoo threw Riku a curveball here - now investors will bring up hololive's EN expansion and ask about the failing nijiEN branch kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:17:24 No.71171252 Report

Quoted By: >>71171612 >>71179075

>>71171166
kek now that you mentioned it. wonder if yagoo knew about it and dropped the announcenment at this time on purpose

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:18:32 No.71171297 Report

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>>71170943
Hire a mob to attack their en lolis

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:21:44 No.71171427 Report

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>>71170943
Prepare the lube

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:22:01 No.71171444 Report

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>>71171166
>Sakana torpedos Riku's shins with coffee
>Yagoo nukes Riku right before the investor meeting
Rumao another addition for the All Out War Chronicles

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:26:27 No.71171612 Report

Quoted By: >>71172164 >>71174541 >>71181282

>>71171252
>elira and uki do stupid shit
>sayu leaks black company contracts
>yagoo follows up with an EN office
YAGOD I KNEEL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:26:51 No.71171623 Report

Quoted By: >>71172083 >>71172285

>>71170943
>Anycolor is currently failing in the west
>Vshojo couldn't even get started in the east
>How should they respond to stop cover's monopoly over the vtuber world?
At this point nothing really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:38:31 No.71172083 Report

Quoted By: >>71172285 >>71180973 >>71183975

>>71171623
vshojo is still the funnier one to me. a bunch of idiots thought the japs would see talent freedom as a positive

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:40:53 No.71172164 Report

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>>71171612
Thats what riku gets for trying to overlap holofes with a bunch of big streams and debuts

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:41:34 No.71172181 Report

Quoted By: >>71180575

>>71170943
Vshojo only occasionally picks up 4views who are friends with current members so their expansion will always be pretty slow. Their niche of basically letting their talents do whatever they want while they network with big flesh streamers seems pretty stable though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:44:20 No.71172285 Report

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>>71171623
>>71172083
That's honestly pretty sad because Phase Connect has no problems expanding into Japan and they're significantly smaller, lower budget, and lower visibility.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:46:17 No.71172367 Report

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>>71171166
>If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant, attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.

>What the ancients called a clever fighter is one who not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 07:49:15 No.71172469 Report

Quoted By: >>71173051 >>71182230 >>71182805

People won't like what I have to say, but since Cover's western expansion has been a success, I'm expecting a collaboration with VShojo at some point. Of course I don't mean talent collabs. Can't find the tweet but Yagoo seems to have a positive impression of Gunrun and VShojo. Much like Cover has built connections with Anycolor in JP, they'll start to build connections with VShojo now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:07:48 No.71173051 Report

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>>71172469
I honestly don't care anymore. Nyanners and Veibae were the biggest problems with Vshojo and they're gone. The company as a whole is mostly fine now. I even watch one of them now (Henya). I'd take them over Niji any day.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:11:12 No.71173153 Report

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>>71170943
If Hololive corners the kids entertainment market, it's veritably, ineffably over. They win until the end of vtubing. That market is an entire world made of solid gold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:14:54 No.71173259 Report

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>>71173153
losing to ironmouse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:24:20 No.71173547 Report

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>>71173153
Gura could've pulled it off if she actually streamed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:30:24 No.71173721 Report

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>>71172285
>Phase Connect has no problems expanding into Japan
and that expansion failed dramatically because phase was retarded enough to have a ton of eop in their jap expansions chat scaring away any potential jap listeners

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:33:13 No.71173807 Report

Quoted By: >>71177756

>>71172285
>Phase Connect has no problems expanding into Japan
Is it really expanding when they are just a small tadpole in the ocean

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:40:07 No.71173999 Report

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>>71170943
Riku live dancing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 08:59:32 No.71174541 Report

Quoted By: >>71177215 >>71177849

>>71171612
>the contract leak
>the artist abuse reporting a "lawyer" using the CEO stamp without aproval started an investigation
Riku is getting wombo combo'ed to oblivion.
And there still the Reimu pedo circle drama that still hasn't earned attention for now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 09:09:32 No.71174839 Report

Quoted By: >>71178605

>>71172285
phase doesn't have a clique culture

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 09:11:02 No.71174876 Report

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>>71173153
it's a risque market with all the bitching parents nowdays

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 09:26:20 No.71175292 Report

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>>71170943
Vshojo had the equivalence of that for over a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 09:48:02 No.71175832 Report

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>>71171166
NijiEN can't setup shop in NA considering how abhorrent their contracts/practices are, especially California.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:26:24 No.71176819 Report

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>>71170943
>What will be their next move?
KR market for VShojo
ES for AnyColor

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:39:26 No.71177215 Report

Quoted By: >>71177591 >>71180492

>>71174541
>Reimu pedo
wtf??

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:52:51 No.71177591 Report

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>>71177215
https://warosu.org/vt/thread/70754438#p70832736

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:55:22 No.71177657 Report

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>>71173153
FWMC already did that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:56:52 No.71177696 Report

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>>71170943
Backpack man and his girls will just continue to do their thing on twitch and they seem happy with that.
Yacht man will accelerate and pump out another gen soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:57:01 No.71177702 Report

Quoted By: >>71182356

>>71172285
VShojo didn't really tried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 10:59:18 No.71177756 Report

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>>71173807
gotta start somewhere
hololive was once the tadpole in the ocean too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:00:13 No.71177786 Report

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>>71177657
cant deal with their fucking baby talking, I'm sure they can be entertaining but I cant take it, them and bijou

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:02:48 No.71177849 Report

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>>71174541
He's been in a combo since the Selen Termination

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:03:01 No.71177855 Report

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>>71172285
Phasefag delusion is hilarious the Phase JPs are nothing on the grand stage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:03:30 No.71177868 Report

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>>71177786
I love it
it's refreshing after hours of talking with people who try to sound like adults irl with callous witty remarks daily

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:06:23 No.71177946 Report

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>>71177786
>them and bijou
You have never watch a single bijou stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:09:33 No.71178046 Report

Quoted By: >>71178458

>>71170943
Riku Tazumi will continue to do what Riku Tazumi does best.
He will prey on more dreams, he will grow fat on your need for solace.
He will regurgitate more waves to manipulate the stressed out populace.
As he leaves those exploited by his company in the dust, he will sleep soundly in his suite unmoved by the grief he has caused, the lives he has ruined.
Then he will leave the ruin as if he were never there.
There is no passion, no hope, only the cold psycopathy of a businessman who plays dice with the lives of people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:24:01 No.71178458 Report

Quoted By: >>71178562

>>71177868
You mean like this fag?
>>71178046

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:27:41 No.71178562 Report

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>>71178458
You a Riku cocksucker, homeboy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:29:33 No.71178605 Report

Quoted By: >>71179329 >>71180087

>>71174839
>no clique
Anon, over half of Phase are nepo hired.
There was a nice relationship chart going around a couple of days agos to show who brought in who...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:47:34 No.71179075 Report

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>>71171252
>And here comes Yagoo with the steel chair
KEK

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 11:57:12 No.71179329 Report

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>>71178605
A culture of bringing your friends into the company doesn't make a clique culture. In fact in Phase's case its probably one of the reasons they've been so damned successful. Everyone gets along and supports each other. It seems like a lot of people around here don't know the difference between a positive work environment and a clique. A clique by definition is an exclusive group. An elevated few that works to hold others down while only promoting themselves. Phase doesn't do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:02:36 No.71179463 Report

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>>71177946
https://www.youtube.com/live/AV53gKuwyJA?si=EvNiq30pYcjWBAeN&t=6945

this is how she sounds, she sounds like a toddler and I'm not saying that its not enjoyable for you but you can not say that she doesnt sound like that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:12:32 No.71179764 Report

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>>71171166
Selen's termination isn't so negligible now, Riku

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:22:08 No.71180087 Report

Quoted By: >>71180387 >>71181502

>>71178605
The difference between Phase nepohiring vs Niji Nepohiring is the balance.
If you look into it, the PC nepohires are spread between 3-4 talents, and some of the nepohires are connected to all the key talents. If you throw Sakana himself doing some nepohires it's even more distributed. Meaning there's no real power imbalance. NijiEN nepohiring revolves around one person. That's the problem because instantly there's way too much influence concentrated around one person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:32:10 No.71180387 Report

Quoted By: >>71180993

>>71180087
Also it's was spread over different prior corpos not just one. Overall good point. I'll buy it.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:33:49 No.71180442 Report

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>>71170943
They have lost the ALL OUT WAR. They are nothing but a joke now.

As long as the corrupt higher ups (like the chief executive who protects Luca's rule-breaking ass and the shitty lawyer who put that JP artist through hell) are there, the corpo is as good as dead.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:34:52 No.71180492 Report

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>>71177215

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:36:55 No.71180575 Report

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>>71172181
Vshojo's expansion has been rapid of late, they almost doubled their numbers even if they lost some members

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:43:40 No.71180838 Report

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>>71173153
My queen. I kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:46:55 No.71180973 Report

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>>71172083
They thought that they would see Kson and Nazuna and would come flocking to see them. In reality, Nazuna literally left from lack of support (Vshojo Next was literally just the two, did they think more Holomems would defect for talent freedom™?) and Kson has only found success streaming in japanese when she is on youtube, where she doesn't brand herself as Vshojo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:47:28 No.71180993 Report

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>>71180387
There's also the fact that you'd expect a lot of nepohiring at the start. That's just the reality, PC didn't have the budget to on a massive recruiting spree and any big name wouldn't even look their way because of the lack of reputation. Niji on the other hand was around the time EN was launched, a market leader. They had the funds and resources to not resort to constant nepohiring.
Different expectations for different business life cycles. There's a local small family accounting firm who hired their daughter as a accountant where I live. Absolutely no problems there. But if you're Ernst & Young there's no reason that 1/2 an entire branch of 100+ employees is nepohired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:54:40 No.71181282 Report

Quoted By: >>71181375 >>71181533

>>71170943
>>71171166
>>71171612
Qrd? Did Cover finally open a US office?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:57:16 No.71181375 Report

Quoted By: >>71181583 >>71181724

>>71181282
Yep they are opening a US branch office in California

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:58:35 No.71181424 Report

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>>71170943
There's only one thing they can do

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 12:58:45 No.71181430 Report

Quoted By: >>71182291

>>71171166
I completely forgot about that. I guess Anycolor can hide behind the fact that their quarterly reports are a month and a half behind so it’ll cover the period up to January 31, making it easier to lie to their dumber investors that somehow weren’t aware of the drama. But even then it won’t be easy to sidestep it for the next earnings report where they’ll have to admit that they were kicked out of one American convention, making North American appeal impossible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:00:38 No.71181502 Report

Quoted By: >>71181744

>>71180087
That's something that has been on my mind lately. Not only phase and niji, but almost any company, hololive included, allows talents to recommend someone to the agency.
But a crucial difference I'm seeing is, if NijiEN staff did not speak english, how the fuck were the interviews conducted? I find it hard to believe they paid an outsourced translator when they could have just put Elira or Petra on the call.

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:01:16 No.71181533 Report

Quoted By: >>71181724

>>71181282
Yes with focus on sale, event planning, and merch shipping. Not studio or new branch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:02:38 No.71181583 Report

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>>71181375
>California
Oh no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:06:43 No.71181724 Report

Quoted By: >>71185257

>>71181375
>>71181533
So hopefully that means better merch distribution in the US, that's cool, though I'm an EUfag so I'm still fucked either way (Yagoo EU office next please).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:07:02 No.71181744 Report

Quoted By: >>71182671

>>71181502
And this is why there's massive problems with talents doing translating. Not only do they have access to confidential information of people who might not even be employees, you're relying on thruthfulness and objectivity from someone who may have a vested interest in seeing some pass or fail auditions. Imagine someone Petra/Elira hates is in auditions, they're not really going to try to paint them in the best light to their bosses. It's just human nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:19:41 No.71182230 Report

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>>71172469
If it means gunrun gives yagoo the tech that lets vtubers run around on monitors mounted on segways, then Fuck Yeah let them talk!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:20:55 No.71182291 Report

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>>71181430
Investors are fully aware, even the financial commentators are aware of the drama. They however find JP profitable so they may just ask Riku to nuke and restart EN with a better rep. Then again, he could double down and go straight into a bad Q4 to cash out then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:22:08 No.71182356 Report

Quoted By: >>71183268

>>71177702
>poach """beloved""" bilingual chuuba hoping to bring in her former audience
>poach chuuba with highest supas donated hoping to bring in her former whales
Yeah vshitshow didn't try at all. They definitely will not try to poach the banpire

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:30:03 No.71182671 Report

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>>71181744
>pass or fail auditions
Especially the second part is often overlooked and the reason why people say corruption breeds mediocrity and stagnation.
Applying this to the rrat of pushing out successful competition in the branch,
they would filter talented and motivated people in the audition so they do not threaten their position in the first place. Combine this with other sabotage like lack of marketing and at least in my headcanon this is why TTT turned out the way it did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:32:54 No.71182805 Report

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>>71172469
Anon, you are too naive. Yagoo likes a shitton of posts from rival companies and multiple other brands who aren't even directly involved in vtuber stuff, like sports teams.
And from all western companies he could work together with, Vshojo is one of the least likely ones because they have ex-Holos in there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 13:45:27 No.71183268 Report

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>>71182356
>poach
None of those left Hololive to join Vshojo. You might have an argument for some of the Niji, but if you are just hiring from the talent pool like they did with Kson and Nazuna, it's just regular hiring.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 14:02:29 No.71183975 Report

Quoted By: >>71185468

>>71172083
Didn't Sony terminate their vtuber branch and gave the IP rights to all their vtubers?
Vshojo ain't probably settling for Japan but sure their motto is spreading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 14:29:35 No.71185257 Report

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>>71181724
If this works out in the US and Cover thinks the sales demand is there, you will probably see merch distributors opening in the EU too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 12 Mar 2024 14:34:45 No.71185468 Report

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>>71183975
>their motto is spreading
Anon, they didn't terminate a talent. They terminated the whole project and left the Vtuber market.
Things like these have already happened in the past, like StarRing, for example, and the talents usually keep the IP.

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