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Literally the worst chess player I've ever seen!

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 03:46:19 No.7403767 View View Reply Original Report

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A 135 rating seriously? I didn't even think it was possible to have a rating that low...

And just several weeks ago she was at 250! How can you actually get WORSE starting from 250??

At this rating, you could probably set her against a 2 year old toddler and the toddler would have a strong chance of winning...

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 03:47:22 No.7403809 Report

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I just lost to a sub1200 and I'm mad

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 03:48:35 No.7403855 Report

Quoted By: >>7404166 >>7404493 >>7404958 >>7417533 >>7422800

>>7403767
https://lichess.org/study/FLHEBQVq

Here is the Hololive archive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 03:54:41 No.7404082 Report

Quoted By: >>7405675

>>7403767
Let's be fair. Ollie is the only one in Hololive who can deliver checkmate relatively efficiently, even though she tends to miss some.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 03:57:08 No.7404166 Report

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>>7403855
My god...

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:05:08 No.7404493 Report

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>>7403855

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:12:25 No.7404791 Report

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>chess geeks

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:16:34 No.7404958 Report

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>>7403855
Kiara vs Ame is a rollercoaster of emotions

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:17:03 No.7404979 Report

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>that one nousagi that keeps sniping her games
can you leave my oshi alone, thanks

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:27:49 No.7405349 Report

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>>7404958
This has to be a record

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:30:23 No.7405429 Report

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>>7403767
is nd4 the right move here
pressure knight and then fork the king?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:31:42 No.7405473 Report

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>>7405429
That and being a piece up. Just trade down pieces, simplify the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:36:28 No.7405644 Report

Quoted By: >>7405795 >>7405896

got to give it to her that she liked it enough to continue after the tournament, but man, she needs to study and play the computer first

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:37:29 No.7405675 Report

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>>7404082
Kek Ina would probably do what the fighting game guy did against het.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:38:51 No.7405729 Report

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I dont know if its just a beginner thing but dont you at least think before you move a piece or after opponent made a move... I feel like she just click a random piece and see the dot thingy where the piece can move and just choose whatever dot she feel like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:38:59 No.7405737 Report

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>>7403767
So should we ha e a vtuber chess general?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:40:50 No.7405795 Report

Quoted By: >>7406035 >>7406054 >>7424706

>>7405644
Computers are terrible for learning. Low level computers make unrealistic blunders and will randomly have brilliant defenses. High level computers are completely unbeatable even for grandmasters. Play, Puzzles, and Lessons is the way to improve

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:41:15 No.7405806 Report

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>>7403767
>several weeks ago she was at 250

Several weeks ago she had a coach. Now she just has Apex-wrecked zombie brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:41:41 No.7405823 Report

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>>7403767
Part of Ollie's appeal is being a horny sexy womanchild

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:44:00 No.7405896 Report

Quoted By: >>7406019 >>7406035 >>7406054 >>7406136 >>7407192 >>7412862

>>7405644
Chess noob here, wanna ask a question

At what ELOs are playing the computer better than playing similarly rated opponents?

I think if I were around 100-200 like Ollie, I wouldn't learn anything from 100-200 rated opponents.

As the rating gets higher, the educational value of opponent gets higher maybe? Where's the cutoff when human players start becoming worth playing against? 800?

I'm at 1k on chesscom, is that at a level where human players are better learning experience than computers?

Or is a mix better and none is strictly better than the other?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:44:29 No.7405915 Report

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>>7403767
I can't believe some people on here keep saying she's smart because she repeated some highschool level maths from a textbook that she clearly barely understands.
The girl might be one of the biggest retards in hololive tied with Gura and Aqua.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:45:51 No.7405947 Report

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>>7405915
She's smarter than you Anon.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:46:46 No.7405976 Report

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>>7405947

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:47:23 No.7405994 Report

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>>7405473
I feel like Ollie is really scared about losing pieces and even pawns. She really needs to learn the value of trading her pawns and pieces, and forms of non-material advantage I guess

Remember when she advanced a rook to a rank in the middle of the board just to protect a single pawn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:48:09 No.7406019 Report

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>>7405896
I'm also at 1k. im trying to 3 star all the bot, currently stuck at the 1800 bot. I think you can still learn a thing or two from playing against bot, especially it helps when you are learning new opening

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:48:32 No.7406035 Report

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>>7403767
~200 is her rapid rating. She's playing Blitz now
>>7405896
Computers are a meme >>7405795. If you think you can't improve playing against humans, then do puzzles or watch lessons (chess.com sells them but it's better to just watch chess youtubers)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:48:58 No.7406054 Report

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>>7405896
>>7405795
Low level computers make unrealistic blunders but 200 rated player blunders are out of this world

There's gotta be a point where even computers are better than these super low level players

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:49:12 No.7406067 Report

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>>7405737
Ollie is the only one doing her chess reps

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:49:32 No.7406079 Report

Quoted By: >>7406361 >>7414199

>>7405994
A child can figure out you're supposed to trade pieces for board advantage after a few games.
What the fuck did her coach even teach her?

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:51:07 No.7406129 Report

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>>7405947

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:51:22 No.7406136 Report

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>>7405896
You are okay anon, if you're really 1000 you're better off playing actual humans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 04:57:40 No.7406361 Report

Quoted By: >>7406533

>>7406079
On another note it doesn't seem like she's comofrtable with endgames yet.

If she can't figure out which basic endgames are basically wins, maybe she can't figure out how much material a chess player actually needs to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:02:03 No.7406533 Report

Quoted By: >>7406663

>>7406361
Eh end games take practice though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:04:35 No.7406619 Report

Quoted By: >>7406668

The biggest obstacle for Ollie is that she doesn't take the time to actually look at and understand her mistakes. When she makes mistakes she doesn't try to understand why she's wrong

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:05:23 No.7406643 Report

Quoted By: >>7406694 >>7406702 >>7406720 >>7407658 >>7408501 >>7408974 >>7411604

>>7405976
She spends her time making fistfuls of money while interacting with people she likes and having fun. You, however, spend your time posting on 4chan which means you're some kind of dysfunctional freak of nature, you possess the IQ of a kitchen sponge, and you're probably suicidally depressed. Face it Anon. She's smarter than everyone on /vt/ combined.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:05:53 No.7406663 Report

Quoted By: >>7406971

>>7406533
True, and we can't expect her to suddenly improve overnight with no practice

I'm just trying to think of where her knowledge map currently is, what basic concepts are she lacking on and how are they linked

On a more positive note, I think she has decent midgame tactics, if her puzzle rating is any indication

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:06:12 No.7406668 Report

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>>7406619
The same could be said of most Holomems with regards to most games tbf.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:07:01 No.7406694 Report

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>>7406643
Some of us are better than her at chess, but we actually want to see her get better at it.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:07:13 No.7406702 Report

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>>7406643

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:07:49 No.7406720 Report

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>>7406643

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:15:54 No.7406971 Report

Quoted By: >>7406996

>>7406663
I mean, she's rated 200, she has room for improvement in every direction. What would help her a lot would be mid-game plans. Right now she's only looking at things one move at a time. If she could start thinking in terms of plans instead of impulsively lashing out threats she would improve a lot.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:17:08 No.7406996 Report

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>>7406971
Then there's the basic tactics of pins, forks, skewers, and discoveries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:25:13 No.7407192 Report

Quoted By: >>7407707

>>7405896
1800 over the board rated player here.

At 1000 and under rating, 99% of games are decided by a few giant piece blunders and things like long term positional strategy, opening theory, tactics, etc. are largely irrelevant.

The winner of lower rated games is the one who can spot the most captures and blunder away the least amount of material.

Which is why if you want to get better, then just playing games won't help. You have to actually develop BOARD VISION, and the best way to do that is tactics puzzles and mental visualization exercises, like the famous Knight tour, in which you move a knight around an empty chess board using only your mind, occasionally adding in obstacles and other pieces, or just trying to study games with no pieces and a blank chess board.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:38:18 No.7407447 Report

Quoted By: >>7407570

OLLIE YOU COMPLETE FUCKING RETARD

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:41:52 No.7407513 Report

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my only chess strategy is to pick black and go guns blazing at white's queen. after the capture everything else is gravy, I've already got my win condition

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:44:30 No.7407570 Report

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>>7407447
Ollie...focus on your stream

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:48:52 No.7407658 Report

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>>7406643
I hope you understand what you are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 05:51:49 No.7407707 Report

Quoted By: >>7408378

>>7407192
>The winner of lower rated games is the one who can spot the most captures and blunder away the least amount of material.
I'm sure Ollie often forgets the number value for each piece, which affects her exchanges as well as leaving pieces hanging.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:29:47 No.7408378 Report

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>>7407707
Nah, Ollie is actually pretty good at remembering piece value.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:34:51 No.7408473 Report

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>>7405915
Gura could not understand piss easy shit like derivatives let alone teach them even if you gave her 200 years. Plus she barely knows 10 words of japanese. Ollie is inarguably, objectively smarter than her.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:36:04 No.7408501 Report

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>>7406643
should you be talking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 06:59:31 No.7408974 Report

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>>7406643
This. Ollie speaks the truth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 09:42:29 No.7411604 Report

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>>7406643
Shut up, don't ruin my shitpost by telling the truth.
fucckkkkkk
captha:N4ZYI lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 09:45:26 No.7411680 Report

Quoted By: >>7413009

>>7403767
Chess doesn't measure intelligence in any capacity. It's just a game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 10:10:52 No.7412147 Report

Quoted By: >>7412497

it's weird, when I watch her she doesn't seem that dumb and is clearly thinking about moves properly
I would have expected her to have become way better by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 10:31:53 No.7412497 Report

Quoted By: >>7414188

>>7412147
She's not bad when it comes to long term goals and stuff, she's just shit at board awareness and keeps making blunders which is really to be expected of someone on her rank

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 10:54:05 No.7412862 Report

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>>7405896
Being good at chess is simply about making less mistakes than your opponent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 10:58:31 No.7412938 Report

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She still managed to beat the nigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:01:05 No.7412980 Report

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>>7405429
It's white to play. Black has just moved Rd1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:02:58 No.7413009 Report

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>>7411680
t. sub1000 shitter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:04:13 No.7413046 Report

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>>7405915
Yeah, while her attempt at doing math is admirable, I do simultaneously wish she'd try harder or not try at all, partly because she seems to have a tendency to cram all the shit she's going to do for a math stream at the last minute, rather than pacing herself through it properly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:32:17 No.7413677 Report

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>>7403767
https://youtu.be/vbXfDImEX0U

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:57:51 No.7414188 Report

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>>7412497
Hmm, let's see her under Classical time format

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 11:58:23 No.7414199 Report

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>>7406079
>What the fuck did her coach even teach her?
Honestly, her coach was teaching her pretty well, I liked her mothodology.

The lessons she gave were essentially what a player in the 1000- 1200 ELO range would know and be familiar with. Ollie should've been able to get to that level with a few dozen games worth of practice.

She just... didn't. The lessons she got literally flew by her.

One might be temped to blame her coach there, since well, it's the coach's job to put the lessons in a format the student understands.

But if you actually watch the stream where Ollie was taught, her coach really did the best that was humanly possible.

Ollie just didn't get it. Or rather, she actually did, and then IMMEDIATELY forgot everything the second the stream ended.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 12:32:51 No.7414732 Report

Quoted By: >>7417927

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/21620438249

Here's that long whacky game. Y'can see some of strengths as well as those weaknesses here.

If the screenshot were in puzzle mode, she'd catch that mate here. But it was in game, so she didn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 12:37:25 No.7414806 Report

Quoted By: >>7414828

>>7405915
but shes streaming MATH!!! MATH STREAMS ANON! So she MUST be smart!!!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 12:38:36 No.7414828 Report

Quoted By: >>7414878

>>7414806
Well how was the Diff Eq stream?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 12:41:03 No.7414878 Report

Quoted By: >>7414907

>>7414828
bold of you to assume I even watch streams

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 12:42:44 No.7414907 Report

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>>7414878
In that case shut the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 13:20:09 No.7415663 Report

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I remember I had a rival at school and it was fun to play with him, but the guy had a little brother who could see like 10 moves in the future and he really pissed me off. I played the little shit a few times in school tourneys to kill some time. I really hate the genius kids trope since then

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 14:48:59 No.7417533 Report

Quoted By: >>7420589 >>7420835

>>7403855
what's this opening called?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 14:50:40 No.7417577 Report

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>>7403767
Who cares it's just fucking chess, most boring shit a person could stream. If anything once she'll get even worse she will drop this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 15:03:29 No.7417927 Report

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>>7414732
>84,4 accuracy
that's actually pretty good, what the hell?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 17:05:33 No.7420589 Report

Quoted By: >>7420925

>>7417533
The birdbrain opening

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 17:14:55 No.7420835 Report

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>>7417533
Ritardinho Defense, first played in 1391 in Naples.

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 17:18:15 No.7420925 Report

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>>7420589
that wasn't the birdbrain, that's the birdbrain

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 18:29:26 No.7422800 Report

Quoted By: >>7424347

>>7403855
how do we know what their elo is? wasn't all of those games just casual 51 matches?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:25:26 No.7424347 Report

Quoted By: >>7424959

>>7422800
>wasn't all of those games just casual 51 matches?
Yeah you got it right. Ollie is pretty much the only one who has knowledge of basic chess principles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:37:22 No.7424706 Report

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>>7405795
Ye, I remember in the 90's everybody was like (The new chess generation will just spar vs computers all day). But now when you see Carlsen or FunnyTwitchMan whenever they go see what the computer would do they just say "Well that's impossible to ever calculate that makes no sense"

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Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:38:17 No.7424726 Report

Quoted By: >>7424927 >>7425027 >>7425111

>>7403767
https://youtu.be/LY2uxU5yrg8

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:44:56 No.7424927 Report

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>>7424726
a bit disgusting. She should be learning fundamentals, not cheeses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:45:54 No.7424959 Report

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>>7424347
all of ollies games are equally casual tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:48:54 No.7425027 Report

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>>7424726
That guy was literally pre-moving the opening

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 02 Aug 2021 19:52:27 No.7425111 Report

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>>7424726
>Scholar's Mate
She should be ashamed for milking that, and the clipper should be ashamed for highlighting it.

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