>>7461381most don't know about that clip though, and either way, her criticisms (though horribly misinformed) were directed at COVER, explicitly NOT the talents. I mean, I can't really blame anons too much for not knowing, as the clip that often got posted here conveniently cut that part out, as well as that more recent clip where she said she had changed her mind/was wrong about several things but was edited to seem like she was doubling down on everything she had said instead. and just to be clear here, I'm not even advocating for vshojo collabs, I generally prefer the insularity that hololive tends to maintain, but I also think proper arguments need to be made if you don't want us to come across as the worst kind of deranged idolfags. tossing shit at other agencies and talents over hearsay and misinformation just weakens the case and emboldens everyone outside this bubble because most of them just aren't going to see this shit the way you guys do, they're going to see a bunch of antis harrassing Kiara/Mori/Vei/who the fuck ever to discourage a collab, and that basically ENSURES that these collabs keep happening