>>74721298Do they really? The EN stars seem to mostly want to keep to themselves now, or at least tend to avoid Hololive. Altare seems to have been burned by the initial controversy and greatly prefers collabing with other EN Stars or male Vtubers outside HoloPro with Kobo being the only real exception. Even then, he doesn't collab with Kobo often. Axel collabs mostly with the other EN Stars outside of those large crossover gatherings, and most female Vtubers he collabs with are outside Hololive. Bettel collabs with Bae once in a blue moon, and mostly collabs with other EN Stars or male Vtubers outside Holopro. Flayon and Hakka do collab with HoloID, but mostly with the other EN Stars and sometimes with outsiders. Shinri collabed with Bae once, and otherwise pretty much exclusively collabs with other EN Stars. Jurard is in the same boat as Flayon and Hakka. I'm not sure if Goldbullet, Octavio and Ruze have ever collabed with women outside of a large crossover. The premise of the thread appears to be false.