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If your oshi graduates will she keep her avatar?

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 16:54:31 No.759187 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>759248 >>759415 >>759475 >>759907 >>760556 >>760687 >>761060

I don't think Cover would let the most superchatted character in the world keep streaming without them getting their cut. It would honestly almost benefit Coco if she got released but could keep her avatar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 16:58:00 No.759248 Report

Quoted By: >>759271 >>759899

>>759187
No, the avatars are their property

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 16:59:02 No.759271 Report

Quoted By: >>759545

>>759248
what about Fubuki?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:05:16 No.759415 Report

Quoted By: >>759562 >>759824

>>759187
pretty sure cover owns everything. the channel itself, the avatar, the "lore" etc. only with their permission they would be allowed to exist. if someone graduates in bad blood, they will be gone from the internet.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:07:57 No.759475 Report

Quoted By: >>759535

>>759187
Coco would keep Coco Kaine because, as of right now, Cover doesn't own that

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:10:23 No.759528 Report

Quoted By: >>759650

All the charas are property of Cover with Suisei probably being the only exception, depending on how her contract was written up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:10:34 No.759535 Report

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>>759475
Big brain. I didn't think of that. Can you imagine if Coco Kaine randomly showed up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:10:50 No.759545 Report

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>>759271
WHAT about Fubuki?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:11:27 No.759562 Report

Quoted By: >>759700

>>759415
Cover doesn't own Smol Ame

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:14:49 No.759650 Report

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>>759528
They most likely own her Hololive outfits

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:16:48 No.759700 Report

Quoted By: >>759847

>>759562
actually, they do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:21:56 No.759824 Report

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>>759415
They don't own any lore that fans create nor do they own any fan-characters. Meaning if any Holo were to use any fan character, and it became a big part of that Holos identity, Cover wouldn't own that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:22:58 No.759847 Report

Quoted By: >>759879 >>759952

>>759700
how does that work?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:24:09 No.759879 Report

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>>759847
They own Amelia character, any variations is "Amelia character"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:24:52 No.759899 Report

Quoted By: >>759921

>>759248
What about Suisei?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:25:14 No.759907 Report

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>>759187
Artia and the CN people didn't get to keep theirs

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:25:39 No.759921 Report

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>>759899
We would need to know if she gave them the right when she signed up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:26:42 No.759952 Report

Quoted By: >>760032 >>760098

>>759847
It's written in the japanese side that if you post anything on the art tag they don't own you anything and can use it how they please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:27:10 No.759962 Report

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Who owns Haachama?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:30:03 No.760032 Report

Quoted By: >>760094 >>760098 >>760189

>>759952
Does Cover own this outfit? Or any outfit design that artist post on their talents art tags?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:32:55 No.760094 Report

Quoted By: >>760318

>>760032
they own the lore and the name etc. whats so hard to understand about this.

sure you can make an avatar that looks similar. but youre not allowed to use the name or the detective stuff. it would be a new avatar.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:33:06 No.760098 Report

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>>759952
>>760032
Does Cover own the Fubuki Chainlink edits?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:36:40 No.760189 Report

Quoted By: >>760273 >>760354 >>760388

>>760032
If it was posted on ameliART they are legally in the right to use it how they please, but that's morally wrong so everyone would dogpile on them for it if the artist didn't get anything.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:40:26 No.760273 Report

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>>760189
if they own it, it's canon right?
COVER officially endorses Chainlink, BUY BUY BUY

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:42:26 No.760318 Report

Quoted By: >>760354

>>760094
I think there's a misunderstanding here. I'm rereferring to the outfit specifically.
If an artist designs a new outfit Hololives characters, for fun as in not commissioned by Cover, but uses their hashtag. Does Cover own that outfit design?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:43:19 No.760336 Report

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Awful bullish of Cover to use two characters to promote LINK

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:44:02 No.760354 Report

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>>760318
Sorry didnt see this >>760189

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:45:23 No.760388 Report

Quoted By: >>760463 >>761269

>>760189
Is this a Cover thing or Japanese law thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:48:31 No.760463 Report

Quoted By: >>760521

>>760388
Japanese law, Comiket survives because they turn a blind eye, if Cover wanted to sue the dude that did the shion doujin they could, there's no fair use there, transformative content legally isn't the property of the person that made it until stated otherwise by the owner of the IP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:50:55 No.760521 Report

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>>760463
what happens if you just happen to make a fan outfit and upload it on your website or whatever, but SOMEONELSE posts it with the ameliart hashtag, is that your problem as well?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:52:22 No.760556 Report

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>>759187
Most definitely not. All characters belong to cover. Would the talent retain their fans. For the most part yes any fans lost are recouped by not having cover gouge 30% of your supers or railroading you with weird manager shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 17:58:16 No.760687 Report

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>>759187
To this day, Azuma Lim is the only one that got her character back after leaving, but it's really fucking hard and took many months and courtroom cases, so many that people thought she retired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 18:14:45 No.761060 Report

Quoted By: >>762535

>>759187
>Oshi
Go back to >>>/jp/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 18:23:33 No.761269 Report

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>>760388
They own the copyright for the characters', designs', lore, etc. They could sue anyone making a derivative work for copyright infringement, it's just that they aren't american (or Nintendo) and they understand the concept of free advertising so they won't do it

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 19 Feb 2021 19:19:32 No.762535 Report

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>>761060
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