>>76866799How is giving people the benefit of the doubt being a shill? I just don't subscribe to the bandwagon opinion. As for my reasoning for targeting those four:
Elira can be justifiably bullied for her actions in the black stream.
Vox can be justifiably bullied for his actions in the black stream.
Enna can be justifiably bullied for literally bullying Selen PUBLICLY ON STREAM in a collab Selen wasn't even a part of. Even Nina was visibly uncomfortable and tried to change the subject instead of laughing because she recognized how mean it was.
Luca can be justifiably bullied for being outed by his ex-mod as a sexual predator with receipts.
You can also choose to bully Ike(also participated in the black stream) or Millie(taunted Selen over her cover being privated).
>We have no proof of who the bullies are, or how many of them there are. This isn't a defense, but this is a fact.Precisely, which is why I'm saying if you're gonna bully people, you should at least bully people whom we have actual proof of treating her badly or behaving in a way that is irredeemably shitty(Luca). That is NOT an endorsement of bullying the livers as a whole or even bullying any individual livers. It's just saying I can understand someone not liking Elira for her involvement, but I heavily disagree with the argument that Twisty is somehow "complicit" in Elira's shitty behavior. Working for a vtuber company doesn't make you responsible for all of that company's crimes. HoloEN are not responsible for the Mel manager rape arc or Coco being deleted to appease Zhangs.
If the argument is "We can never forgive Nijisanji for what they did to Selen" then the proper course of action would be boycotting talents that had some kind of negative affiliation with Selen, and management who maligned her. Pressure those people to clear up their involvement and possibly absolve themselves of blame if they are truly innocent. Not targeting people who have zero involvement in the situation whatsoever. There's nothing Vivi can say to get people off her back for the Selen firing, because she had no awareness or involvement in it. She can't provide any proof of her innocence when she never said a single negative thing about Selen. It's an unwinnable situation for her and it sucks.
