>>78669554>>78672281>>78672929>>78676901>>78673298Ok, retard. I'll bite.
While it's true that the covid buff is real, it's still stupid to assume that she wouldn't be as popular if she debuted without it. Just like how there's a possibility of her not being as big, there's also a possibility that she might be bigger. It's all an endless what-if scenario where you won't admit how fucking stupid you are because you're so focused on the covid buff.
Instead, how about we look at the other vtubers that also debuted during covid and how they're doing now compared to Gura. Even if you exclude the morons at nijiEN that ruined their own reputation, there's still holoJP 5th gen that debuted 1 month prior to myth and holoID 2nd gen that debuted 3 months after myth. Even nijiJP had some vtubers that debuted during the covid lockdowns, yet none of them are as popular as Gura. You could even argue that council also debuted with covid buff.
Now, let's see you move the goalpost like a retard.
>b-b-but blue doritoI already added the 3 holo branches as an example
>b-b-but her RM was popularIRyS RM was more popular
>b-b-but she had nearly 1 million subs before joining holoOwl
Also, there's one crucial thing that you retards are glossing over. You retards talking as if holoEN declined when compared to 2020-2021, when in reality it's the opposite. Biboo's debut peaked at 120k. Imagine if Senzawa suddenly announced she was leaving or taking a break, and holo announced a new generation. The hype would most likely help beat holoJP's 180k debut peak
