>>80184573Mostly
>>80185490, and to add, twitchfag Vtubing is overwhelmingly just normal twitchfaggotry in an anime costume. Like, you've got Vshojo over there trying to do concerts and covers and shit like they're Hololive, except their audience gives less than half a fuck about that because they're there for their daily twitchfaggotry. So naturally, the numbers for that stuff ends up being dogshit, even if the rest of their numbers seem healthy enough.
The idolfag(-lite) part of Vtubing just...isn't on Twitch in the slightest. Every corpo and indie worth a damn is on YouTube, which also has the side effect of almost completely isolating idolfag Vtubing from "normie" streaming, notwithstanding the exceptions of Ludwig/Charlie/etc. Even Fillian's kinda mostly a twitchfag despite getting her start with YouTube Shorts.
So the "normie" western stream audience defines Vtubing by the Vtubers on their platform of choice, and naturally anything that isn't on there isn't real; ironically, they're the inverse of /us/ genrally not giving a shit about Vshojo or Twitch numbers.