>>80222213>it is by far the most common activityWhat is common doesn't define a hobby. When you say vtuber the first thing that comes to mind to normalfags is Gura, and as I already said she doesn't fall into your category, even if those same normalfags think she does, further proof of how little impact what is "common" has on the final product or the direction of the community as a whole. 1 view or 2 views on Twitch and YouTube don't make a splash, Holo brings tsunamis. And even if we take for a fact that those 1 and 2 views actually matter something the statement:
>Are vtubers not just streamers with an avataris idiotic, because many creators do not stream or do not follow the fleshie with an avatar route.(
https://youtu.be/5T9AFFPSS9s)
A baseline doesn't mean anything when what you are competing with has evolved from that baseline ages ago.
>That's not even me being reductive because I don't think that streaming as a baseline is a bad thing at all. If I did I wouldn't watch vtubers.I think the statement "streaming = vtubing" is reductive because we are talking about a phenomenon that is more than that and as shown so many times in the past and the present, you can say streaming is a part of vtubing or that some vtubers are like flesh streamers, heck when talking to a normalfag I would use the same definition, but anyone invested enough in the hobby knows that's simply not true, it's just a mere reduction of what vtubing is about at the end of the day.
Also, not related to this argument, but you seem to think that what differentiates the Holo format from the rest is GFE which is pretty funny considering the EN side has no actual GFE.