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Fuwamoco's 3D debut was bad. Just like Shiori, just like Biboo and just like Nerissa. Every single member of Advent had a boring 3D showcase and it seems like everyone is eating this stuff up without questioning if it actually makes good use of the third dimension. This is the problem and it's why most 3Ds are trash, but you don't see that. You just see the girl moving around with a Z axis and assume it doesn't need to have any sort of quality because the ends justify the means. Cover is a tech company, not an idol company, so it feels weird to have them not take advantage of that beyond the bare minimum. The only worthwhile parts of this entire stream were FWMC's choreography (as should be expected) and the moment when that fat fuck Pero got pulled and stretched by the twins, before getting kicked into orbit. Mococo's tummy looks nice in 3D, but Fuwawa's tits looked absurd without her jacket and their personalities didn't really translate to their movements. Interrupting the entire thing to shill merch was ridiculous, and I'm honestly surprised there wasn't a sub counter in the corner given how obsessed the dogs have become with numbers. Even if the wrestling sequence was well-executed and didn't have their models glitching out, it was honestly creepy since it went on for way, way too long. Especially when they go from baby-talking to the audience to borderline incest, sorry but it just doesn't sit right with me. What's also weird is how uncanny FWMC's models looked next to OkaKoro. This is a massive criticism I've had of all the recent 3Ds, is that the people designing these new models are just "transliterating" the Live2Ds without considering if they'll clash with everyone else. It literally looked like FWMC were guest characters in their own stream, which was the exact reason I didn't care whatsoever for Biboo's or Nerissa's 3Ds. I also just want to reiterate how LAME these environments are. A house in a forest and a stock city street, it might as well be an asset flip. If they're repurposing these locations from HoloEarth would it kill them to upgrade the fidelity so I can believe I'm not watching a decade old MMD? Chances are I'm in the extreme minority here but I don't really care, the gulf of difference in quality between ID3's 3Ds (and HoloTempus, but you aren't ready for that conversation) was so wide that I can only conclude that Cover went out of their way to barely put any effort into Advent's debuts. If that makes me a hater then so be it, I wasn't impressed.
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I’m not reading all that faggotry, try sucking more cock to find someone to agree with you
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>>82711734 Kys sister
You posted the shittest take of the month
so far.
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>>82712096 That's like, just your opinion man.
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>>82711734 People will give you shit for having a negative opinion a great 3D debut but even as someone who enjoyed it, your points are pretty similar with some of the minor grievances I have.
I'm on the side of liking it but I agree with their body proportions not meshing well with Okayu's and Korone's models (FUWAMOCO is supposed to be in a similar height range). FWMC's heads looked way too small and I don't mind it but their shoes also being big with their sugoi CLAMP studio-esque legs was kind of silly. I don't think a forest suits them either, I was expecting a cartoonishly cute doghouse. That being said their singing especially near the end was kino. The wrestling was also unexpected & funny but ran too long. For me it wasn't horrible but it wasn't especially outstanding either. It was standard.
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did not read did not sell FWMC 1MIL EOY
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>>82711734 >and HoloTempus Oh it's this faggot beggar, you're not gonna get anyone to watch your failures by shitting on Advent
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The world will be a better place after all homotrannies kill themselves.
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>>82712623 (me)on a great*
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>>82712668 Crazy how a single mention of the homos can generate so much seethe
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>>82711734 >ID and holotempus Oh ok so you’re just a nijifag, got it
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If you want to see a fun 3D showcase check out Enna Alouette's.
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>>82712769 Where's this "seethe" you're talking about? I'm just saying that making multiple different threads to shit on Advent and propping up Tempus isn't gonna make anyone want to watch them
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It's legitimately baffling that they had all JP guests for their debut even though a bunch of EN members had made it a point to be in Japan and be available to guest. They live in Japan and can do 3D with JP members whenever
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>>82713882 You make it sound like they had a bunch of guests, they didn't, just Okakoro. And I'm assuming that's because Korone is a dog so they could have a third dog in their group and they've been obsessed with cats since their debut
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>>82711734 holy wall text. are you on your period anon? you sound hysterical
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>>82712668 Reread the post, he is saying that hololive gave the homos better 3d models than the girls even though advent deserves it more.
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>>82713882 Its because EN have limited chances to collab with JP and events like 3D are literally their only realistic chance for the next year to be on the same screen as their oshis.
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>>82711734 ngl I don’t like fwmc but I thought they showcased their 3d models really well with the photoshoot and the wrestling part.
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>>82711734 i watched all of tempus 3Ds, they're honestly not that impressive compared to advent. can you give specific examples?
>>82713882 look at all the ENs who showed up at advent 3D.
>bae >kiara >the wigger in all of myth and promise, these 3 are the only ones who are known to like to network. ID is clogged with projects, so by elimination they can only invite JP guests. also shiori doesn't invite anyone.
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>>82714198 In his other threads he just kept going on about how much better the homos' showcases were and responding to people calling him out for shitting on the girls to prop them up by saying that you aren't allowed to judge him for his shit opinion if you haven't watched the homos' showcases
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>>82714620 If you haven't watched something then yes you have no right to comment on it, positively or negatively.
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>>82711734 Mogged by Stars boys
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>>82711734 Kill yourself phasecuck
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>>82714620 The homo showcases were better. They had fucktons of props and assets with a ton of tech put into them and a variety of stages and the girls were running around in vr-chat-battle-arena-2432 with maybe 2 unique props
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>>82714940 Find me a moment from a recent 3D stream which matches this level of kino.
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I only watched the shiny spicy 3D debuts because I don't care about the rest but they weren't even close to Advent in quality. Not anywhere near. Maybe there are a few who are better, but when you say a blanket "holoTEMPUS", you imply it's any of them. I watched 2 and their collab and it wasn't close.
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Stars simply work harder and put more effort into things. Holos just coast because their fans are glorified ATMs.
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lmao they're really jealous of fuwamoco
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>>82711734 >watching hololive for any type of entertainment except sexual ishygddt
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>>82714940 >>82715129 I watched both tempus and advent 3D (and every 3D debut since nepolabo, including all of JP holostars) and there is not a single tech that the tempus guys have that the girls couldn't have access to. It's more likely that the guys just have more ideas and a clearer vision of what they wanted to do in 3D so they allocated their resources and budget more efficiently.
bijou's 3D had the best tech and vision in advent because half of it are parodies and it resembled the tempus 3D the most. The fixed over-the-head camera in the dark souls part was something hololive hadn't explored much before.
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imagine putting in 10 times the work and being watched by 100 times less people
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Only Nerissa's debut felt mid.
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>>82711734 reminder these 3D absolutely mogged the homos with just waiting room numbers. why haven't they graduated the waste of resources yet?
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>>82711734 >everyone is eating this stuff up without questioning Well, that applies to pretty much anything about vtubers, really. Fans will only complain if it's a major fucked up. In everything else their brains are too rotted to notice bad or lazy content.
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why are trannies mad at the dogs again?
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>OP's bait failed so badly he needs to samefag >>82715819 They won't be cutting themselves for Hex anymore.
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No one wants to watch your lazy, boring, wealth fare stealing leeches OP.
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>>82711734 Fucking kill yourself already you faggot. Your homos could literally all be terminated and no one would give a shit besides you and other trannies
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>>82715948 If I said this about any female talent I'd be banned instantly but it's okay to talk that way about male vtubers.
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>>82715819 the meet & greet did pathetic numbers I heard. even the sisters are getting bored of the homos.
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>>82716066 yes, Total Homo Termination.
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>>82711734 It was cute enough. I wasn't really wowed but it did everything a 3D debut should. I liked Bijou's and Nerissa's more though.
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>>82716066 Duh. Now go back to your fucking thread
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>>82715530 Or their "best" effort is simply not entertaining to most people or impressive to most people.
>>82715819 No one cares about their faggots so they need to seethe about popular girls.
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Bettel did it better. He was also the first 3D with twins.
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>>82711734 tl;dr
BAUBAU FAGGOT
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I liked theirs but I liked Biboo's more. They're all close but if I had to rank it I woulf say Biboo then Fuwamoco then Shiori then Nerissa.
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>>82711734 anon you just grew up...
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>>82711734 Technical side pisses me off. Why are boobs the only thing that has physics? Can a tech company not make a flowing skirt or make hair behave not like a plastic wig glued to the girls' heads? Why does every fucking item anyone ever pick up float a foot away from their actual hands?
But I guess it's a small indie company after all. Can't be too harsh on their flagship product's demonstration.
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>>82711734 jesus this moron again. I'll say it to you once again if I need to.
No one cares about your homos.
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>>82723595 Anon don't listen to moronic faggot. You're as immature as a middle school prom with equivalent intellectual appreciation and vocabulary. Get some culture retard.
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watching the homos put increasingly more effort into their content less and less people watch must be excruciating for sisters
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on this board, you guys are never happy. your entire life is about sadness. People in japan seem to have enjoyed the 3d live, they even say that old hololive was back for a moment.
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>>82711734 Shilling merch and pandering is on brand for them. There were a few moments that were mask off blatantly sexual baiting and I just think back how some ruffians convinced themselves these two were innocent and kids friendly.
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>>82725006 For real though, I seem to enjoy everything a lot better when I disconnect from western online communities. Funny how that works, isn't it?
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>>82711734 The point is to show off their 3D model and personality through body language and they did it beautifully. No one is watching for tech gimmicks, they're just window dressing. Cope homo.
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>>82723510 Biboo's was so fun, the hour went by in a flash. The others dragged a bit more.
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>>82711734 >the girl moving around with a Z axis literally the only thing i want out of 3d streams, everything else is secondary. your favourite streamer moving around in 3d should be enough.
>t. been watching since late 2019 Anonymous
>>82716238 Honestly the only thing that makes me sad about FuwaMoco's debut is the lack of fun, goofy shit with their guests. I was so happy when Kaela showed up for Biboo's and Kiara and Lui for Nerissa's, but maybe that's just a symptom of Fuwawa and Moco-chan being pretty introverted. They aren't Shiori levels, but it wouldn't surprise me if they just didn't ask anyobe besides okakoro for the duet/quartet. Maybe they just wanted to focus more on the singing stuff, but didn't want to fill it completely with choreo and singing, so they came up with those bits?
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>>82711734 >Cover is a tech company, not an idol company Stopped reading right there. They are an idol company and it's time to stop pretending otherwise.
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>>82726382 >But maybe that's just a symptom of Fuwawa and Moco-chan being pretty introverted. Practically every EN girl is introverted
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>>82711734 >tech company They sell entertainment, not tech. The CEO verbatim called it an entertainment company, and it has been for years.
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>>82726474 NTA but they're not a very good idol company then. It's like their entire 3rd EN gen only started practicing idol activities a month or two ago in preparation for this 3D showcase. Before that they wasted all their time doing meaningless shit on streams like play video games. Even underground idols are better than Cover Corp at it.
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>>82727018 Yes, so you can see them improve. It's very rewarding to see the difference a few years makes in regards to your lazy streamers dancing and singing.
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>>82726474 First they need to hire some idols. I don't go around pretending I'm a fireman just because I piss on campfires.
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>>82727889 >i piss on campfires Hot
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>>82725012 >innocent and kids friendly. Sounds like you are just a fucking retard who bought your own "muh teletubbies" bait, homotranny. They've always been fanservicey otaku. And that's based.
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>>82725012 The Christmas stream literally had Fuwawa begging you to fuck her. How the fuck have you only now come to this conclusion?
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I miss when the main reason people seethed at FWMC content was because those two were actual honest otakus and irony poison weebs got filtered because of that.
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>>82711734 Notice how these seething complains are never seen after other corpos 3D events, but constantly after any Holo does 3D.