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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:28:06 No.8315034 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>8315081 >>8315092 >>8315457 >>8315470 >>8315741 >>8317148 >>8319437 >>8319513 >>8321959 >>8324556

Will these two sites always be the go-to for VTubing? Both of them are pretty unfriendly to this sort of thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:28:38 No.8315053 Report

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no they arent

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:28:59 No.8315058 Report

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Amazon and Google but the same kikes own both. The choice is an illusion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:29:02 No.8315060 Report

Quoted By: >>8326043

imagine tiktok

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:29:06 No.8315065 Report

Quoted By: >>8326043

nah, bilibili is also pretty big in vtubing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:29:33 No.8315073 Report

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not any more unfriendly than anywhere else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:29:46 No.8315081 Report

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>>8315034
are their any D-live vtubers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:30:11 No.8315092 Report

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>>8315034
what the fuck are you talking about retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:43:10 No.8315405 Report

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Just use niconico.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:45:27 No.8315457 Report

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>>8315034
Unironically Bilibili. Wouldn't have to worry about permissions

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:45:58 No.8315470 Report

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>>8315034
>Both of them are pretty unfriendly to this sort of thing.
how

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:47:18 No.8315502 Report

Quoted By: >>8319530

E-Girl come home..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:53:40 No.8315650 Report

Quoted By: >>8319644

twitch even added a vtuber category so you can find them more easily, how is it unfriendly to vtubing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 07:57:17 No.8315741 Report

Quoted By: >>8317148 >>8319034 >>8319455

>>8315034

Cover needs to make its own video site. Theres no alternative. If you rely on other actors to not fuck up you inevitably will be. Being a series o outube vhannrl i not a stable business model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:01:38 No.8315846 Report

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>>8315457
>Wouldn't have to worry about permissions
I checked out a virtuareal chuuba and saw them showing a full episode of an American reality show on screen so I'm inclined to believe this but I'm not entirely sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:03:28 No.8315909 Report

Quoted By: >>8316118 >>8319285

>>8315470
Twitch is completely unsuitable for vtubers. Vods are ephemeral. No music videos, scripted videos or shitposts, only streams. This makes it an incomplete platform for vtubing.

Youtube chat feels lacking in both features and performance. The algorithm becomes the main tool for discovery and good luck figuring it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:04:36 No.8315964 Report

Quoted By: >>8317203

>>8315846
I've watched twitch streamers just sit there and watch Court TV bullshit on twitch, it's really not as bad as people think it is. Even DMCAs for music aren't as common as people seem to think

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:08:02 No.8316118 Report

Quoted By: >>8362207 >>8366801

>>8315909
>Twitch is completely unsuitable for vtubers.
>Has 95+% of the successful western vtubers that aren't in a corporation

Clearly it's not as big of a problem as you think. The archives can go on Youtube, as can all the other content. I know this may seem like a foreign concept to you, but it's the way all streaming has been on the site, vtubers aren't some new exception. Look at any Twitch content creator and how they separate their content for different platforms in order to get maximum reach from it. They stream and then archive and put highlights on Youtube. VTuber viewers just seem new to enjoying live content and don't fully understand the way things have worked for years now.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:39:29 No.8317148 Report

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>>8315034
NND uses ancient architecture and is being outcompeted by youtube even in Japan.
Dailymotion was killed by the French government because the French hate being successful.
BiliBili makes you beholden to glorious Führer Xi.

Which friendlier alternatives are you thinking of?
>>8315741
Ah, the Games Workshop Theory of Business: Hide your content behind a service that only people who are already fans will be aware of, reducing growth to literally zero.

Putting a grate over the rabbit hole xD may be OSHA compliant, but if your business model involves trapping people in parasocial relationships, disarming the traps is kinda counterproductive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 08:41:17 No.8317203 Report

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>>8315964
It's worse for Corpos, and even WORSE for JP Corpos.
It's like you all don't fucking remember how close Hololive came to just being 'gone'. It was only at Capcom's mercy that the entire group of Hololive channels wasn't immediately terminated and is the reason why Permissions autism is the way it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 09:56:16 No.8319034 Report

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>>8315741
>Cover needs to make its own video site.

youve really thought they can manage that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:06:36 No.8319285 Report

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>>8315909
>no music videos, scripted videos or shitposts, only streams.
This is all vtubers are nowadays anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:13:23 No.8319437 Report

Quoted By: >>8321632 >>8322154 >>8322250

>>8315034
There's a small vtuber i follow that really thought about wether to move to twitch or stay on youtube, and while i think twitch is the better alternative for this chuuba's growth (Which she really needs) she pointed out how YouTube is big enough that not only it will forever hold relevance as long as it exist, but most of twitch features will slowly began to appear on youtube, and chances are that twitch won't be able to compete because they don't have that sweet Google money that keeps such an otherwise unviable platform alive.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:14:24 No.8319455 Report

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>>8315741
That's retarded

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:16:56 No.8319513 Report

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>>8315034
What other sites are used by vtubers nowadays? D-Live and Trovo?

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:17:24 No.8319530 Report

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>>8315502

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:22:05 No.8319644 Report

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>>8315650
VODs die even when you set you channel to save them because Twitch lol.
Like there are some streamers whose content is gone forever just because Twitch can't be assed to upgrade their shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 10:46:54 No.8320234 Report

Quoted By: >>8323355

Does anyone really watch VODs from two months ago?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:12:15 No.8320856 Report

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>>8319530
Whores aren't allowed to be this cute.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:14:20 No.8320922 Report

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>>8319530
Fuck melody THE biggest UwU I'm so quirky and mess up easy words and have a retarded fake laugh. Fuck this tryhard bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:16:52 No.8320991 Report

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>>8319530

For a literal porn actress who masterbaits on stream she was pretty gud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:18:04 No.8321046 Report

Quoted By: >>8334394

>>8315457
If you live in a county with intellectual protection laws you can still get in trouble for doing that even if you do it from a site hosted in a 3rd party country. You have to actually live in China to get the full benefit of streaming on bilibili.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:20:56 No.8321151 Report

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>>8315457
Start streaming Disney shit on billibilli with your identity on full blast and then tell me how long you last before they bust your front door down and arrest you.
Hint: it won't be long.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:22:03 No.8321192 Report

Quoted By: >>8321272

>Virtual YouTuber
>Streams on Twitch

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:24:44 No.8321272 Report

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>>8321192

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:34:33 No.8321632 Report

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>>8319437
>and chances are that twitch won't be able to compete because they don't have that sweet Google money that keeps such an otherwise unviable platform alive.
>Twitch is owned by Amazon
>the largest e-commerce site in the world
>the largest provider of cloud services in the world
>owned by a guy that casually spends $1Bn yearly off his net worth on his space program pet project
Anon, please think this through...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:44:33 No.8321959 Report

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>>8315034
There are two kinds of streaming websites, the ones that are garbage and the ones no one uses

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:49:28 No.8322154 Report

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>>8319437
The thing that keeps Twitch alive isn't just the fact it has the streams or tools, it's also the culture. I know people here don't like parts of it, but there's streamers who literally won't leave for large deals just because they know they'll die without it. There's streamers with partnerships on other websites that still come to Twitch to stream and don't even get any major benefits from it besides the basic affiliate ones.

Also Amazon owns twitch, retard. stop sabotaging your chuuba

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 11:51:37 No.8322250 Report

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>>8319437
Those are good points, but by the time those things come into effect if they ever do she'll probably have graduated. Vtubers have a very short lifespan and need to think in the short-term.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 12:14:39 No.8322977 Report

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a website purely built for anime/otaku content is needed, with owners who understand that 2D loli/shota are just images and sexualizing of characters is okay

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 12:26:04 No.8323355 Report

Quoted By: >>8335955

>>8320234
Anon that's bad business if you're trying to get new viewers.
Imagine Korone and Marine's Kirby 64 race was gone, never to be seen in it's entirety again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 12:57:04 No.8324556 Report

Quoted By: >>8324895

>>8315034
There's nothing better.
Both sites are hated by their usership to an extent, yet everyone still uses them because there's no better option;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 13:03:35 No.8324895 Report

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>>8324556
>There's nothing better.
Mainly because they outlived the competition.

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Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 13:27:35 No.8326043 Report

Quoted By: >>8387799

>>8315060
>>8315065

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 16:31:58 No.8334394 Report

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>>8321046
IP laws are a detriment the the West's global cultural competitiveness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 16:54:15 No.8335955 Report

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>>8323355
Just like an anon said above, they can upload their VODs to YouTube.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:08:41 No.8362207 Report

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>>8316118
Thanks for the in-depth answer to the question. nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 19:31:26 No.8366801 Report

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>>8316118
If you have to use a different platform to make up for all of the sutff that the platform is missing, then yeah it is a bad platform

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 22 Aug 2021 21:19:27 No.8387799 Report

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>>8326043
Who's this bitch?

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