I have never seen such obvious subscriber botting, even from V4Mirai

How come Hololive gets 100k subs before debut and somehow V4 is getting 40k? You're telling me V4 alone is about half the size of Hololive? KEK yeah right
When Hololive debuts new gens, they usually get around the same CCV as their subs, so if one has 100k subs pre-debut they will likely end up having 100k CCV at debut
V4Mirai's new gen is NOT getting 40k CCV at debut. Tops would probably be under 10k. It just doesn't add up

Same thing happened with Lunalia where they had insanely high subs and got like one fourth to one fifth the CCV turnout at debut
Also explain how Lunalia, who has on average 2x the subs that the Phase Euphoria gen has, gets 3 to 4 or maybe even 5 times less CCV on the regular than the Phase Euphoria vtubers get. How does Lunalia's top vtuber, Alias, get less average CCV than fucking Pixellink's Kanna when Alias has 3 times more subs and also does the same type of content that Kanna makes? None of this adds up at all

>inb4 they are running ads
Yes and so does Phase. Whats your point? Ads aren't this effective even at their best.
Idol was also known for this, so much so that they ran out of money doing this. They ran so many ads to the point of bankruptcy and they only got to 10k subs BUT they also got 10k CCV at debut. It tracks for them and everyone else but not for V4Mirai for some reason

If you had to ask me, I believe they are running real ads but they are also topping it off with subscriber bots to give the impression that they are bigger than they really are which is just scummy