>>87020732In the first movie the joker is supposed to be a stand in for what are underprivileged people in the leftist worldview so non-whites and sexual minorities etc. and the violence is supposed to be kind of positive because of that. Obviously the movie wasn't interpreted like that but that's how it was written.
Now wise from the first movie's reception, In the second movie, he's written to be a stand-in for incels, white supremacists etc.
That's the difference. It's a weird power fantasy movie where they just made cartoonishly horrible things happen to him since he represents people they don't like now instead of heroic oppressed minorities. It's also artistically bankrupt since they basically gave up and conceded that "yeah you're right the joker is basically king of incels" just to be able to torture him instead of sticking to their own vision.
Imagine watching the movie with no idea about any of this cultural context as someone from a foreign country. The movie makes no fucking sense. Also, if you watch the first one and don't get the incel message, but the writers' intended heroic rebellion of the oppressed message, the second movie will seem insane with how much they punish the jonkler.
