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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:29:40 No.87180503 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>87181833 >>87182089 >>87190381 >>87220174

The hololive OFFICIAL CARD GAME is a trading card game with the concept of “competition,” in which we build and compete in this game with our fans.
t. Cover

Official Twitter Account
>https://x.com/hololive_OCG

>Rules:
https://hololive-official-cardgame.com/en/beginners/
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IdaueY-Jw8JXjYLOhA9hUd2w0VRBao9Z1URJwmCWJ64/edit?gid=975361685#gid=975361685

>Online simulator (automated):
https://daktagames.itch.io/holoduel
>Alternative simulator (manual):
https://github.com/GabeJWJ/holoDelta/releases
https://holoduel.net/

>Twitter hashtag
https://x.com/hashtag/ホロカ?f=live

>JP Online store for price checks
https://www.tcgjapan.com/osr-rr-r-u-c/
https://www.tcgjapan.com/sec-our-ur/

>Set 2 info
https://x.com/hololive_OCG/status/1837111289811997012
https://x.com/hololive_OCG/status/1837115400913571959

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:40:41 No.87181102 Report

Quoted By: >>87181170 >>87181461 >>87181870

Which existing TCG is this closest to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:42:18 No.87181170 Report

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>>87181102
Never played it personally but people say Pokemon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:48:09 No.87181461 Report

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>>87181102
It's basically Pokemon if there was a dedicated Trainer card with Trainer moves and doubles were implemented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:55:41 No.87181833 Report

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>>87180503
jesus christ that official website is ESL.
and why the fuck did they disable the fucking scroll bar

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:56:26 No.87181870 Report

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>>87181102
It has enough differences to change it up, but it's practically a Pokemon clone.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 20:59:14 No.87182014 Report

Quoted By: >>87182161

Welcome to the card shop where I show you expensive cards that you will never get your hands on
This weeks card: https://www.tcgjapan.com/hoshimachi-suisei-hbp01-007-sec/
>737 dollars
lol I say Anon-boy
Also on the flip side
https://www.tcgjapan.com/hoshimachi-suisei-hbp01-007-osr/https://www.tcgjapan.com/hoshimachi-suisei-hbp01-007-osr/
A measly 15 dollars. Worth the price this early? Who knows

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:00:52 No.87182089 Report

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>>87180503
I haven't tried it, but the translated cards are also available in Tabletop Simulator, by the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:02:24 No.87182161 Report

Quoted By: >>87182251

>>87182014
>This weeks card: https://www.tcgjapan.com/hoshimachi-suisei-hbp01-007-sec/
>737 dollars
Isn't the price going down?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:04:01 No.87182251 Report

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>>87182161
possibly, which is why I'm laughing but anything could happen from now land the future. From previous experience, some card drop super hard but then go back up in price due to people missing out

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:10:33 No.87182571 Report

Quoted By: >>87183859

FUCK KANATA PLAYERS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:35:59 No.87183800 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:37:02 No.87183859 Report

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>>87182571
I'll do the first two thirds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:39:05 No.87183966 Report

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>>87183800
Why did it make it so bad? Why can’t they give it a simpler ability and thus give it a bit more damage

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:48:01 No.87184394 Report

Quoted By: >>87185127

That feeling of dread when you're down to your last 2 hololife, and you see the Kanata player with 2 holopower. They collab their 2nd stage Kanata, and their holopower increases to 3.
>activate Squeeze Squeeze

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 21:54:07 No.87184670 Report

Quoted By: >>87185870

I'm trying an AZKi+Iroha deck. Anything I should add or remove?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:00:33 No.87185005 Report

Quoted By: >>87185306 >>87187682 >>87187709 >>87188856

>match against a promise meta sheep
>2nd stage IRyS center
>two fucking 2nd stages Mumei in their backrow, cycling one after the other every turn
>another 2nd stage IRyS as backup just in case
>two 1st stage Kronii farming cheers
Banlist when and which card do you hit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:02:59 No.87185127 Report

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>>87184394
NEED holopower disruption cards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:06:26 No.87185306 Report

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>>87185005
>banlist this early on with only 1 set out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:16:58 No.87185870 Report

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>>87184670
I have no direct personal experience with the archetype but I’ll give feedback based on other decks I played like mono azki. You need to play the deck yourself to further evaluate. I don’t recommend amazing pc at anything more than 1 copy. 1 cheer is expensive to tutor a card when you can just run a critical mass of various 2nd blooms and similar. Drawing many cards instead of tutoring 1 tends to grants you more resources. Prioritize more copies of Nodoka over first gravity which averages 1.6 or so cards. Consider the boring 160 hp Azki to tank some hits as the 100 hp Azki isn’t particularly good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:53:16 No.87187682 Report

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>>87185005
The game is going to change completely when they release the second set. There's no reason to ban cards this early.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 22:53:46 No.87187709 Report

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>>87185005
The problem card is Mumei 2nd, she makes the whole 2nd line online in a single turn. And also Mumei oshi skill is pretty broken as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 23:17:10 No.87188856 Report

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>>87185005
the most powerful tool promise has access to is 1st bloom irys. +60 damage for the turn is an incredible swing. You just end up with 2 cheer worth of additional attack with the bloom effect. It also makes 1st mumei feel very powerful because you run 8 copies of 1st irys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 23:48:18 No.87190381 Report

Quoted By: >>87190614 >>87191374 >>87214454

>>87180503
did they mention how frequently they play to release new packs/cards/decks or whatever they are called?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 23:52:09 No.87190614 Report

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>>87190381
plan to*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Oct 2024 23:53:25 No.87190701 Report

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I heard Gura's cards don't have any actions. You know... because she doesn't stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 00:03:42 No.87191374 Report

Quoted By: >>87193349

>>87190381
Every 3 months

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 00:32:20 No.87193349 Report

Quoted By: >>87198451 >>87214021

>>87191374
Standard card game practice. While I don’t mind, it would be nice to get a card reveal every week while waiting

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 01:10:10 No.87195995 Report

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 01:41:57 No.87198330 Report

Quoted By: >>87198451

I want a card reveal

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 01:43:40 No.87198451 Report

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>>87193349
>>87198330
They'll probably start reveals in November.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 02:21:41 No.87201206 Report

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Draw!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 02:55:27 No.87203682 Report

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deck out

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 03:08:52 No.87204666 Report

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Response?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 03:46:34 No.87207242 Report

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 04:05:15 No.87208590 Report

Quoted By: >>87216450

Uh-oh, Promise might me in Tier 0 status now

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 04:19:20 No.87209614 Report

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>>87204666
handtraps when

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 05:15:57 No.87212669 Report

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wao

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 05:52:21 No.87214021 Report

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>>87193349
They did daily card reveals for set 1 closer to the release date

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 06:03:53 No.87214454 Report

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>>87190381

>>87059589

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 06:56:31 No.87216450 Report

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>>87208590
And that's a good thing

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 07:06:46 No.87216826 Report

Quoted By: >>87217184

Uh oh

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 07:17:02 No.87217126 Report

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Kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 07:19:03 No.87217184 Report

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>>87216826
Notably yesterday promise was at 70% as well. 20% of them were just labelled at "Kanata Promise."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 07:21:36 No.87217264 Report

Quoted By: >>87225817

>suisei gets errata'd pre-release
>promise shenanigans are fine for some reason
But why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 07:24:35 No.87217345 Report

Quoted By: >>87219353

With the holos playing the tcg shop simulator it would be kinda cool if people could mod the cards into that game could be pretty neat

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 08:47:38 No.87219353 Report

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>>87217345
not sure if there's enough cards to replace all the rare variants unless you add in the bushiroad cards along with them

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 09:24:49 No.87220174 Report

Quoted By: >>87220456

>>87180503
>Online simulator (automated):
Since when is this up? I want to try this holo card game with no commitment

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 09:37:18 No.87220456 Report

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>>87220174
Been up for over a week already. There’s an AI where it’s only the starter deck as an opponent so you’re free to mess around until you get used to the rules

Or use the Queue option to play with another person

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 09:37:24 No.87220459 Report

Quoted By: >>87221089 >>87226412

Stats from 6000 holoduel games

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpXSGsoVaJsOqOq5OlBNAc4KX2hBpxqr3crupOwanMg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 10:07:09 No.87221089 Report

Quoted By: >>87225816

>>87220459
At this point they might as well give you three free 3-draws per game

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 11:09:56 No.87222563 Report

Quoted By: >>87224042

Draw!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:05:37 No.87224042 Report

Quoted By: >>87224746

>>87222563
Congratulations!
You drew a card you already have in hand!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:23:27 No.87224746 Report

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>>87224042
Fuck!
I discard both to draw again!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:46:31 No.87225816 Report

Quoted By: >>87229846

>>87221089
It's because the pool of support cards is so bad. What else are you going to fill your deck slots with? There's even multiple variants of a similar support that, even when put in a deck perfectly matching the type of holo they are designed for, are generally just worse than drawing 3

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:46:32 No.87225817 Report

Quoted By: >>87226485 >>87227710

>>87217264
>suisei gets errata'd pre-release
How was Suisei before release? Did cards she down with her Blooms and Arts' effects knock off life if they killed?

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:58:04 No.87226412 Report

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>>87220459
Kiara...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 12:59:48 No.87226485 Report

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>>87225817
She counted herself for the damage boost which resulted in a 240 minimum damage attack ((debut +1st +2nd) x60)

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 13:26:05 No.87227710 Report

Quoted By: >>87228925

>>87225817
https://hololive-official-cardgame.com/news/post/06/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 13:52:31 No.87228925 Report

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>>87226485
>>87227710
Nahone. Promise may be dumb but at least they need (easily available) help to break 200 damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 14:14:09 No.87229846 Report

Quoted By: >>87229912 >>87230418

>>87225816
I wonder how will the card game deal with future support to maintain variety?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 14:15:45 No.87229912 Report

Quoted By: >>87230218

>>87229846
set rotation

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 14:22:55 No.87230218 Report

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>>87229912
You mean graduation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 14:27:44 No.87230418 Report

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>>87229846
I think the only ways to really get variety are rotation, or powercreep. Most games end up doing both.
But just in the short term I don't think they need to do anything fancy? The draw 3 isn't like pot of greed, where you can just play a bunch of them freely. Because it's limited, it has an opportunity cost, that is, not playing any other limited that turn. So if the other limited supports were better, its insane play rate would drop.

Like if the PC didn't cost a cheer to use. Or if the cheer removal mumei card didn't have a coin flip. Or if the collection of themed drawers (idol mic and etc) looked at 5-6 cards instead of 4. Or if penlight didn't delay your oshi skill.
I don't think a limited draw3 is overwhelmingly overpowered or anything as an inherent concept but nearly everything else competing for the limited slot is just so scuffed in one way or the other

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 14:54:55 No.87231526 Report

Quoted By: >>87231955

Anyone have a sample deck list for Kanata oshi deck? I want to try but have no idea where to look up decklist

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Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 15:04:20 No.87231955 Report

Quoted By: >>87232098 >>87232208

>>87231526
https://x.com/holocard_guild/status/1841081452173410806/photo/1
This twitter compiles sets from Tourney winners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 15:07:31 No.87232098 Report

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>>87231955
Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 15:10:22 No.87232208 Report

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>>87231955
Oh neat, I'll follow them.
Looks like they have the deck lists on their website, too.
https://www.holocardstrategy.jp/category/deck/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Oct 2024 15:17:13 No.87232529 Report

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remove kanata

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