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Hololive has finally decoupled itself from Nijisanji

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 09:41:49 No.88844879 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>88847419 >>88847561 >>88847564 >>88847747 >>88848250 >>88852201 >>88852637 >>88852757 >>88853671 >>88854236 >>88862177 >>88863293

Before, when Hololive did something good, Nijisanji also benefitted from it; and when Nijisanji did shit like force their talents to off themselves, Hololive consequently was harmed by it.
Why the change now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 09:57:50 No.88845237 Report

Quoted By: >>88845720 >>88852201

So this is the difference between saying "negligible" and actually apologizing for your mistakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 10:21:27 No.88845720 Report

Quoted By: >>88847360

>>88845237
No, this is the effect of making a tcg that flies off the shelves faster than the factory can print the cards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:31:26 No.88847267 Report

Quoted By: >>88847502

Man, sisters who oshi Anycolor must be on sui ide watch by now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:35:07 No.88847360 Report

Quoted By: >>88848134 >>88855013

>>88845720
This but unironically.

TCG is a very simple and accessible way to milk fans for money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:37:01 No.88847419 Report

Quoted By: >>88850077

>>88844879
yagoo believes in the heart of cards

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:40:16 No.88847502 Report

Quoted By: >>88847550 >>88848273 >>88849928

>>88847267
>sui ide
Suicide, the world is suicide you stupid faggot

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:42:26 No.88847550 Report

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>>88847502
>the world is suicide
That's deep bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:42:59 No.88847561 Report

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>>88844879
13ish hours until the seethening

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:43:08 No.88847564 Report

Quoted By: >>88847682 >>88847905 >>88848159

>>88844879
Cover has a Hololive card game, but Anycolor doesn’t have a corresponding Nijisanji card game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:47:12 No.88847682 Report

Quoted By: >>88849835

>>88847564
there's lots of things holo has that niji doesn't, like basic human decency

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:49:29 No.88847747 Report

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>>88844879
The TCG is not negligible and investors took notice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 11:54:01 No.88847905 Report

Quoted By: >>88848352 >>88848358 >>88850139 >>88852438 >>88854844 >>88862594

>>88847564
They should be making it happen as we speak, strictly business; there's no reason for Niji to not follow suit; how well they would sell is anyone's guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:01:24 No.88848134 Report

Quoted By: >>88848165 >>88848190

>>88847360
>way to milk fans for money.
Listen bro, I will stop when I get the signed Kiara, it will happen soon. I can feel it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:02:25 No.88848159 Report

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>>88847564
TCGs are negligible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:02:37 No.88848165 Report

Quoted By: >>88856847

>>88848134
Just two more packs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:03:22 No.88848190 Report

Quoted By: >>88848368

>>88848134
>kiara
you could probably buy that one online for like 2 dollars

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:05:44 No.88848250 Report

Quoted By: >>88848352

>>88844879
So that is why catalogue is filled with anti-Hololive bait threads again. Another sad day for Nijikeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:06:44 No.88848273 Report

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>>88847502
I don't think it is that bad yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:09:46 No.88848352 Report

Quoted By: >>88848443 >>88848717

>>88847905
Reasonably speaking, they would sell. the JP branch is doing fine and they have lots of livers to make cards from. It's the EN branch that would be dead weight.
>>88848250
that's one factor, but chumbuds are always annoying and easily baited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:10:05 No.88848358 Report

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>>88847905
tcg is male hobby territory. seeing sisters joining tcg match surrounded with sweating old man is hot tho
niji already has tcg collab with wixoss btw and its a flop compared with weiss collab with holo

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:10:21 No.88848368 Report

Quoted By: >>88848394 >>88848427

>>88848190
The SSP is ~$250-$350 in good condition.
Retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:11:28 No.88848394 Report

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>>88848368
I also wanted to buy a Pekora but they are $600+ depending on condition, I've even seen one over $1000 sold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:12:16 No.88848427 Report

Quoted By: >>88848478

>>88848368
it could be whatever you want but kiara devalues it by 90%

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:12:39 No.88848443 Report

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>>88848352
they would sell but its only for collection purpose.
sisters are too stupid to play tcg and probably didnt want to come close with all those disgusting old man

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:13:43 No.88848478 Report

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>>88848427
meta over waifu

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:18:37 No.88848626 Report

Quoted By: >>88848788

so this is why they are filling the board with holo vs holo spam again...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:21:09 No.88848717 Report

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>>88848352
Any cards in production would have the fomo boost added to them. Who knows if they come out before the talent graduates!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 12:23:14 No.88848788 Report

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>>88848626
Yeah, it’s been going on all weekend because the last bastion of nijicope may be shattered on Tuesday.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:01:58 No.88849835 Report

Quoted By: >>88850028 >>88850466 >>88859903

>>88847682
Cover has more terminations than Anycolor this year. They were also recently reprimanded by the authorities and featured in news media for their unwillingness to pay artists for their work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:05:08 No.88849928 Report

Quoted By: >>88852206 >>88853884

>>88847502
>World
Word, the word is word you ducking dipshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:09:18 No.88850028 Report

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>>88849835
>Cover has more terminations
Which doesn't really prove anything since it's the talents that fucked up. Whereas Niji's one solo termination was because management was fucking retarded and they literally destroyed their entire branch because of how fucking atrocious they were about it.
>T-they were recently reprimanded!
And we know Niji does the same things, but we also now know Cover at least paid their contractors in the end, whereas with Niji we know that they were paid by a talent instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:10:58 No.88850077 Report

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>>88847419
jagde he's stacking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:13:12 No.88850139 Report

Quoted By: >>88854565

>>88847905
would Bushiroad work with anykara? Or maybe komoney partnership is closer for niji? NijiTCG will be more like yugioh? with all the busted ass shenanigans
truly chaotic and wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:13:46 No.88850156 Report

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I still have yet to see anyone buying Cover calls or Anycolour puts.
Posers, all of you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 13:26:23 No.88850466 Report

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>>88849835
and somehow only one termination is enough to destroy a whole branch. riku i kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:25:00 No.88852089 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:28:16 No.88852201 Report

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>>88845237
>>88844879
Based Yagoo, I kneel

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:28:25 No.88852206 Report

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>>88849928
The word is fucking, dipshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:36:13 No.88852438 Report

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>>88847905
>there's no reason for Niji to not follow suit
there is one
that wixoss collab they had during their peak didnt pull in enough numbers to warrant a stable release
sure you could make a niji card game but unless you are printing 90% chronoir you aint gonna move squat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:42:37 No.88852637 Report

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>>88844879
I thought it was going to fall because it was on national news??
What went wrong, sisters??

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 14:46:41 No.88852757 Report

Quoted By: >>88853803

>>88844879
>Company gets caught doing shady, greedy business practices when they previously had a good reputation
>stock prices skyrocket
God the markets are so hilarious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:13:57 No.88853671 Report

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>>88844879
2024 has been a good year for hololive, insane amount of successful collabs, their concerts are always sold out in minutes if not seconds, other 3D events get massive views and this year has probably been their best in merch production, international events are insanely popular. the dodgers thing is actually huge since they won the championship. their new EN gens are very popular and prove their concept. Myth has been proven to be not needed for EN's success. their JP side, while not as successful with new gens, established gens get massive popularity even in mainstream media now, but to attribute it to one thing, I would say their collabs have been very successful so far. I dont think any anycolor collab has seen similar results ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:17:25 No.88853803 Report

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>>88852757
>company did 2 buyback,cancellation share and stock dividend
>stock prices keep dropping
yeah the markets are hilarious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:20:04 No.88853884 Report

Quoted By: >>88856542

>>88849928
>ducking
Fucking, the word is fucking, you goddamned noron

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:28:54 No.88854236 Report

Quoted By: >>88862319

>>88844879
If Cover passes Anycolor, will it be the first time they're above them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:37:34 No.88854565 Report

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>>88850139
>komoney partnership is closer for niji
Konami only treats the TCG badly kek, us OCGGODS can actually make good decks without selling our organs because all cards are mixed rarity over here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:45:11 No.88854844 Report

Quoted By: >>88856143

>>88847905
by the time niji finished on creating tcg, hololive already make gacha rythym game kek
niji is just dont have a power to create something new. the only thing they can do is accelerating at debuting new organs

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 15:50:14 No.88855013 Report

Quoted By: >>88856143 >>88857541

>>88847360
I wonder how much Money Cover would made if they could develop a Gacha worth a damn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:23:14 No.88856143 Report

Quoted By: >>88858957

>>88854844
>hololive already make gacha rythym game
>>88855013
>Cover would made if they could develop a Gacha worth a damn
First of all, learn English, but secondly, yeah, the fact that Cover hasn't made a rhythm game gacha with their talents and songs is such a waste. The TCG is a start, Holoearth could be cooped into becoming gacha-like, and I hope it succeeds as a project, but it's taking too long and draining a lot of resources, while they're just leaving money on the table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:32:22 No.88856542 Report

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>>88853884
>noron
Moron, the word is moron, you shit-eating ibmecile.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:40:29 No.88856847 Report

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>>88848165
You must buy boxes when you're into a tcg
2 more boxes...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 16:57:36 No.88857541 Report

Quoted By: >>88859449

>>88855013
Anon, they don't have a clue how much money they're sitting on if they make an Idolmaster-esque game. Fuck, they could literally do a Hololive idolmaster gacha like the other rhythm games. Ever since that one time HoloJP had promotional art for their concert with all the girls drawn in the Idolmaster style, I've been waiting for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:29:04 No.88858957 Report

Quoted By: >>88859018

>>88856143
i think the problem with making a rhythm game is that some of the girls own the rights of the songs (like polkas circus song) which will be a problem if they graduate/get terminated

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:30:24 No.88859018 Report

Quoted By: >>88859118

>>88858957
they can always buy the rights for it, are you stupid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:32:24 No.88859118 Report

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>>88859018
thats if the girls want to sell it
another problem would be songs with umj since according to what mori said in the past its tricky

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:39:12 No.88859449 Report

Quoted By: >>88859680

>>88857541
To be honest, I feel like the success of the OCG is going to push them into that direction. I can really see why they're nervous about investing big money into things not related to streaming, even HoloEarth is supposed to be related somewhat to streaming and concerts, and that's because the primary content for Holo is, lets be real, vtubing and things related to the chuubas. I can see why they'd be nervous about actually producing a costly and good idolmaster-like game because if no one buys then they lose money and yeah they have a lot of fans but in their minds they're not sure if those same fans would actually buy or play the games or if the games can reach past the regular Holo fanbase. Same situation as with the OCG, since the OCG is designed to not just be collectible but real thought was put in to make it an actually fun and competitive TCG, so it's obvious they're also trying to reach the regular TCG audience and not just the Holo fanbase. With the success of things like Holocure (which is an indie project but it's still Hololive) and now the massive success of the OCG they'll probably start to realize that Hololive has extended past the normal Vtuber fanbase and Holofanbase in general. That's just my thoughts on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:43:50 No.88859680 Report

Quoted By: >>88859991 >>88860095

>>88859449
NTA but speaking of, how successful was the Holo card game? I didn't follow it at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:48:07 No.88859903 Report

Quoted By: >>88860485

>>88849835
Terminations or graduations?
Aside Mel's fuck up I can't remember who else got sacked. Achan, Ame, Aqua all got out by graduation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:49:33 No.88859991 Report

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>>88859680
It's the reason they decided to pre-emtively upgrade their current quarter estimates and why Cover stock is currently skyrocketing - it might overtake Anycolor for the first time ever when trading starts in just over six hours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:51:35 No.88860095 Report

Quoted By: >>88860140

>>88859680
For context I'm in Kyoto almost 3 in the fucking morning btw lmao but like, I can't find any of the Blooming Radiance booster packs or boxes at card shops right now, they're sold out entirely here, and the SorAz starter deck also sells of the shelves relatively quickly though not as much as Blooming Radiance. The OCG was so successful Yagoo had to increase the Q1 earnings estimate by 2 Billion Yen just because the success of the OCG was so unprecedented and people are already crafting decks to play competitively and have been since the OCG officially released. The card quality is nice as fuck as well, they're beautiful and the textures on some of them feel so nice too. The next set, Quintet Spectrum, will 100% sell just as quickly as Blooming Radiance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 17:52:36 No.88860140 Report

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>>88860095
*Q2 earnings estimate

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:00:08 No.88860485 Report

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>>88859903
Probably Gamma, but Holostars

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:38:34 No.88862177 Report

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>>88844879
Nijibros....I don't feel so good

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:42:29 No.88862319 Report

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>>88854236
I think so, by this metric at least. It was closest back in march, with about 140ish separating them, but it's never been THIS close.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 18:50:26 No.88862594 Report

Quoted By: >>88863296

>>88847905
>release Kuzuha deck
>it's straight up tier 0
>non-kuzuha players call for a nerf
>two options for Riku: nerf the deck and risk the wrath of the Kuzuha sisters, also the game flops
>don't nerf the deck, nothing happens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:09:57 No.88863293 Report

Quoted By:

>>88844879
hololive is a bubble

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 04 Nov 2024 19:09:59 No.88863296 Report

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>>88862594
or even worse
>release kuzuha deck
>it's dogshit
>sisters burn down the card factory.

Anonymous

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