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/cure/ - HoloCure: Save The Fans!

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:21:15 No.89758984 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>89761022 >>89778308 >>89780354 >>89790715

>Download links
https://kay-yu.itch.io/holocure
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2420510/

>HoloCure on X:
https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame
https://twitter.com/HoloCureDev

>HoloCure Wiki:
https://holocure.wiki.gg/wiki/HoloCure_Wiki

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Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:24:50 No.89759135 Report

Quoted By: >>89759452

Is Halu necessary for big coin runs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:25:24 No.89759157 Report

Quoted By: >>89759531 >>89759626

I legitimately don't understand how you're supposed to farm arena for chips. I cannot win more than 50% of the time, and at 50% winrate you earn no net chips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:32:30 No.89759452 Report

Quoted By: >>89761178

>>89759135
Unless you are really new to the game and still unlocking basic stuff Halu is kinda mandatory for every kind of run honestly.
Extra fan spawns get you more exp and anvil/stamp/etc drops too and let you scale far harder, it's not just for the Coins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:32:47 No.89759466 Report

Quoted By: >>89759626 >>89760485

You guys weren't lying, Noel really is strong, I just had a run that literally crashed my game kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:34:09 No.89759531 Report

Quoted By: >>89759740

>>89759157
People said to throw every other round with the lowest bet possible because the enemies target you after a successful round

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:36:27 No.89759626 Report

Quoted By: >>89759740

>>89759466
Literally the first run I tried Noel on Stage 1 Hard Endless I got over 1500 HP and was swinging clubs at YAGOOs for nearly 30k dmg a hit
She's pretty nutty

>>89759157
Are you remembering to leave the casino or throw a match after every champion win?
The AI will actively hunt you down to try to keep you from winning twice in a row otherwise

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:38:45 No.89759740 Report

Quoted By: >>89759789 >>89759909

>>89759531
>>89759626
I am leaving the casino every time. Doesn't matter, still end up getting randomly gangbanged and dying. Just seems pointlessly random.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:40:14 No.89759789 Report

Quoted By:

>>89759740
Not sure then, I had a really easy time with 40HP and 15Atk spamming Retreat and Get Item to get out of corners
I lost 3 to the 25 I won, which was all I needed to buy out the shop

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:41:41 No.89759852 Report

Quoted By: >>89759985

What type of attacker (melee, ranged etc.) is the best for the arena?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:42:55 No.89759909 Report

Quoted By:

>>89759740
Leaving the casino doesn't work, you need to actually lose once.
No idea who started the idea of leaving casino, it doesn't reset the AI unless you close your game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:44:34 No.89759985 Report

Quoted By:

>>89759852
Melee sucks if you go the avoid fights and kill off the last survivor route since their special is an AoE around them.
I've never tried Magic, but Ranged has a nice long distance nuke that covers the entire arena so it's perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:49:01 No.89760172 Report

Quoted By: >>89760216 >>89761081

Do you need to play endless to get all fan letters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:50:13 No.89760216 Report

Quoted By: >>89760925 >>89760961

>>89760172
It's very difficult to get the end boss fan letters without playing endless. Possible, but you've gotta be crazy lucky.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 21:56:56 No.89760485 Report

Quoted By:

>>89759466
Just played stage 4 hard and she tanked my performance

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:06:50 No.89760884 Report

Quoted By:

I swear the plushie doesn’t work right and the soaked damage goes through damage reduction

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:07:44 No.89760925 Report

Quoted By: >>89778457

>>89760216
It's not difficult at all, I just turn on the anti-projectile support and stay right next to the boss until they die 5-10 seconds later, then rush in. It's how I grabbed this >>89735265

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:08:27 No.89760961 Report

Quoted By:

>>89760216
This is mostly only true with the end boss letters for hard mode end bosses and for the latest new stage, because it is easier to get the normal stage end boss letters from its corresponding hard stage where they show up at the 10 minute mark.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:08:31 No.89760964 Report

Quoted By: >>89761113 >>89778518 >>89779008

Is pickup range core on Towa? It would help with ammo consistency but I'm not sure it's necessary, and turning it into area doesn't seem too effective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:09:43 No.89761022 Report

Quoted By:

>>89758984
Actual previous thread: >>89717773

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:10:56 No.89761081 Report

Quoted By: >>89761120 >>89761216

>>89760172
I mean there's probably a Yagoo card so you'd need to get that at the very least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:11:34 No.89761113 Report

Quoted By:

>>89760964
I don’t think it is that important for her. Anya and Luna would care more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:11:49 No.89761120 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761081
There is no Yagoo letter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:12:53 No.89761178 Report

Quoted By: >>89781011

>>89759452
>Halu is kinda mandatory for every kind of run honestly.

Just upgrade the more mobs debuff from the store instead of taking Halu.

Or do that AND take Halu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:12:56 No.89761179 Report

Quoted By: >>89761291

What is the best method to turn usachips into money?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:13:09 No.89761189 Report

Quoted By: >>89761283 >>89761390 >>89792562

>get to 19:30 on stage 5
>get stuck on a tree
>die instantly

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:13:38 No.89761216 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761081
If there was a YAGOO letter it would have been found by now, there almost definitely isn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:14:33 No.89761259 Report

Quoted By: >>89761448 >>89763411 >>89793521

If you haven't beat the Tower, you're not a true gamer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:15:08 No.89761283 Report

Quoted By: >>89761390

>>89761189
quintessential holocure experience

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:15:19 No.89761291 Report

Quoted By: >>89761341 >>89761368

>>89761179
>Use an autoclicker to run the slots for you while you sleep, work or are away
>Mod your save file
>Abuse the Arena AI

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:16:26 No.89761341 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761291
None of these methods can turn usachips into money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:17:00 No.89761368 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761291
No, I mean I have a lot of chips. How can turn them into actual Holocoins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:17:31 No.89761390 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761189
>>89761283
Are we even playing the same game? By minute 12 I'm already able to stand still and occasionally move to dodge projectiles while enemies die 1 cm or so away from the edge of the screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:18:51 No.89761448 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761259
fuck off mori

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:21:01 No.89761542 Report

Quoted By: >>89761836

what are the best defensive items? trying to figure out a farming build for Marine

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:27:28 No.89761836 Report

Quoted By: >>89780345 >>89790056

>>89761542
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU8XNXCSvxw
Just follow this and get 11M a run
You'd still need to repeat it 7 times to buy 1 of the casino items though

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:32:06 No.89762086 Report

Quoted By:

Powerharding with Roboco is fun, both stage 5 bosses died in 5 seconds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:41:32 No.89762537 Report

Quoted By: >>89762767 >>89763417 >>89779574

The next update needs to focus more on adding collabs and super collabs. Sausage, water and dagger only have two each. There needs to be one more debuff collab for Aki. Luna needs a stun collab.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:46:25 No.89762767 Report

Quoted By: >>89763028 >>89763681

>>89762537
The next update needs to buff Ina, add Ina-related items and weapons, and have them be empowered when Ina picks them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 22:52:24 No.89763028 Report

Quoted By:

>>89762767
bring inalock back

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:01:51 No.89763411 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761259
I've never heard of "jump king" before this and I hate it. I'd rather not be a "true gamer" than put up with this shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:02:01 No.89763417 Report

Quoted By: >>89779124

>>89762537
sorry, did you say that the next update should add a Liar's Bar minigame that has no relation to the main game? because I agree

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:06:50 No.89763681 Report

Quoted By: >>89763762

>>89762767
Ina has flat boost

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:08:03 No.89763762 Report

Quoted By:

>>89763681
I like using the absolute wall with her (and it fits her lorewise) but it isn't enough.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:17:33 No.89764303 Report

Quoted By: >>89764436 >>89764868 >>89764918 >>89765687

dang

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:19:34 No.89764436 Report

Quoted By: >>89765125

>>89764303
What's the total buff from the tiara like?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:26:57 No.89764868 Report

Quoted By:

>>89764303
29m Holocoins wowza.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:27:48 No.89764918 Report

Quoted By: >>89764993

>>89764303
why the ball? good for proccing more coins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:29:14 No.89764993 Report

Quoted By:

>>89764918
Only your main weapon procs coins. The ball is there to get to the absolute wall collab through anvils. You ban board and ball after getting them and level only through anvils.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:31:50 No.89765125 Report

Quoted By: >>89765165

>>89764436
21 crit, 42 haste

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:32:43 No.89765165 Report

Quoted By: >>89765485

>>89765125
You mean 22 crit, 44 haste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:39:06 No.89765485 Report

Quoted By:

>>89765165
Sure that is fine too

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:41:26 No.89765606 Report

Quoted By:

This is my highly efficient house layout.
By making it very hard to get to the bed, resisting the temptation to sleep becomes easier. Less time sleeping means more time to grind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:42:44 No.89765687 Report

Quoted By: >>89768440

>>89764303
Why the focus shades?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:46:32 No.89765882 Report

Quoted By:

>do stage 4 hard
>don't get any questions wrong
>don't get the achievement
What? Does the boss need to live long enough to do all the questions or something?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 18 Nov 2024 23:49:50 No.89766062 Report

Quoted By: >>89767321 >>89769656 >>89782864

What do you think other characters will be like?
>Lamy will be another crit monster. Probably do extra damage against frozen enemies and a boost to wamy water. Basically built for ice queen.
>Nene will have two/three highly damaging skills to synergize with the beetle.
>Botan will have an AK47 or sniper rifle or something. Will have a skill that throws out a grenade every few seconds ("Poi!")
>Koyori will be an exp focused character like Roboco. AI Koyori will play some kind of role.
>Iroha will be a pretty straightforward melee character with a skill referencing how pure she is.
>Fuwamoco will act like Ice climbers. They both have individual skills and can pick their weapons seperately.
>Biboo will have a skill where she inflicts brainrot that causes fans to hurt each other. Another skill that increases the chance of pulling super items to reference her gacha luck.
>Gigi's weapon will be double fisters. Special will flood the screen clones of herself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:10:41 No.89767321 Report

Quoted By: >>89767393 >>89767650

>>89766062
my question is how they gonna make pebbles into an actual enemy? It's literally just a tiny rock lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:11:41 No.89767393 Report

Quoted By: >>89767495

>>89767321
there's plenty of stationary enemies that just shoot at you that exist right now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:13:14 No.89767495 Report

Quoted By:

>>89767393
I think it'd be funny if they literally did nothing but maybe block your movement and tank shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:15:59 No.89767650 Report

Quoted By: >>89767788

>>89767321
Biboo gave them lasers like two or three days ago.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:18:31 No.89767788 Report

Quoted By: >>89780494

>>89767650
Pebbles have been asking for jetpacks for a while now too. They might be a fearsome opponent by the time her update rolls around.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:22:12 No.89768000 Report

Quoted By: >>89768371

What a niche buff

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:28:18 No.89768371 Report

Quoted By: >>89768415

>>89768000
Is there a full list of what letters will give you in the end, and a full list of letters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:29:00 No.89768415 Report

Quoted By: >>89769089

>>89768371
https://holocure.wiki.gg/wiki/Fan_Letter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:29:23 No.89768440 Report

Quoted By: >>89770599

>>89765687
Good question. Marine's weapon is flagged as a melee type so the goggles do quite literally nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:40:29 No.89769089 Report

Quoted By:

>>89768415
I wish they had a "this is what all letters unlocked will give you"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:49:51 No.89769603 Report

Quoted By: >>89769710

Ok I haven't played for a long time, whats the barebones money strat for someone with just maxed stat upgrades and all characters at +0 rank?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:50:51 No.89769656 Report

Quoted By:

>>89766062
Biboo asked for her special to be Judgment Cut End so that might be it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:51:41 No.89769710 Report

Quoted By: >>89770015

>>89769603
Just play Marine with lots of multi-hitting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:57:11 No.89770015 Report

Quoted By: >>89770057

>>89769710
alright what build you'd recommend?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 00:57:50 No.89770057 Report

Quoted By:

>>89770015
Marine just existing generates coins. Take anything you want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:06:19 No.89770599 Report

Quoted By: >>89770902

>>89768440
it also shoots projectiles, does those not get boosted by the shades?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:10:41 No.89770902 Report

Quoted By: >>89771281

>>89770599
No, a weapons damage type determines if an item affects it, regardless of what the weapon does.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:16:56 No.89771281 Report

Quoted By: >>89774253 >>89782069

>>89770902
That's not true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:37:45 No.89772427 Report

Quoted By: >>89772446

Does endless mode count as a stage clear?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:38:19 No.89772446 Report

Quoted By: >>89772487

>>89772427
if you reach 30 minutes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 01:39:19 No.89772487 Report

Quoted By: >>89773662

>>89772446
I mean do you get the trophy icon on the stage when you finish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 02:01:22 No.89773662 Report

Quoted By:

>>89772487
No. You only get the trophy if you beat stage mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 02:11:37 No.89774253 Report

Quoted By: >>89774323 >>89774421

>>89771281
nta but its still a wasted slot. Best part of Marine's weapon is the anchor portion. Honestly how that guy got so far with a shit build is crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 02:12:46 No.89774323 Report

Quoted By:

>>89774253
Show your run with more than 29m holocoins then if your build is so good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 02:14:32 No.89774421 Report

Quoted By: >>89782140

>>89774253
yo hang on does each tick of the dot proc her passive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:01:28 No.89777574 Report

Quoted By: >>89777708

So I crafted hololite tools and the hololite paperweight, what now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:03:31 No.89777708 Report

Quoted By: >>89778672

>>89777574
Get Usacoins to buy the Usacoin prizes if you haven't already. Then farm fan letters in the main game. Then farm 390m Holocoins for the Holocoin prizes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:12:23 No.89778308 Report

Quoted By: >>89778624 >>89785625

>>89758984
The reward is too little for such a hard minigame

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:14:33 No.89778457 Report

Quoted By: >>89778547

>>89760925
What do that thing do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:15:34 No.89778518 Report

Quoted By:

>>89760964
More speed always better

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:15:59 No.89778547 Report

Quoted By:

>>89778457
What do what thing do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:17:07 No.89778624 Report

Quoted By:

>>89778308
I think the main problem is that it adds nothing to the base game. the workers give money, the farm/pond give food, the forge gives the armor, the casino gives some vanity items, but the tower gives absolutely nothing
the update added the action button, they should've been unlocked in the tower (not necessarily by beating it)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:17:49 No.89778672 Report

Quoted By: >>89778758

>>89777708
No I mean why are there lesser versions of the paperweight? I only crafted the best one since it's a direct upgrade that obsoletes the others. The cooking items don't obsolete each other since they all come with different effects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:19:12 No.89778758 Report

Quoted By:

>>89778672
The lesser versions are there for people who don't go all the way with the loli Kaela minigame I guess? You only need to use the best one if you have it since they are permanent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:23:21 No.89779008 Report

Quoted By:

>>89760964
Try doing a Towa run with pill/shades/hat/tiara/facemask and the idol live super collab. Spam the special and enjoy the cooldown bonuses, manually collecting ammo doesn't matter as much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:24:51 No.89779085 Report

Quoted By: >>89779223

uh oh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcgGmkbteyI

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:25:23 No.89779124 Report

Quoted By:

>>89763417
>inb4 holocure card shop

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:26:47 No.89779223 Report

Quoted By: >>89779306

>>89779085
I will try to climb the tower before Kaela ends stream.

I am very bad at Jump King

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:27:36 No.89779306 Report

Quoted By:

>>89779223
I have never played Jump King before, and I cleared it in a little over 2h. You can do it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:32:17 No.89779574 Report

Quoted By: >>89779767

>>89762537
lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:35:45 No.89779767 Report

Quoted By: >>89779945

>>89779574
I would say based if it wasn't for the fact that he bent to the cheetos autists crying about the tower.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:38:34 No.89779945 Report

Quoted By: >>89780462

>>89779767
Wait did he nerf the tower? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:40:34 No.89780062 Report

Quoted By:

where is the cheat table or trainer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:41:37 No.89780134 Report

Quoted By: >>89781625

My wishlist for 0.8 which I assume will be coming mid-2026 at earliest:
>at least two new weapons
>unique 30 minute and 40 minute bosses for endless + super-yagoos past 40 minutes or something like that
>another time stage? or a different kind of special stage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:42:51 No.89780219 Report

Quoted By:

I want a Binding of Isaac minigame for v0.8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:44:51 No.89780345 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761836
I'm not Kaela to grind all of that

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:44:56 No.89780354 Report

Quoted By:

>>89758984
>>HoloCure on X:
>https://twitter.com/HoloCureGame
>https://twitter.com/HoloCureDev
>Twitter link
I came to this thread to point this out.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:45:37 No.89780392 Report

Quoted By:

Holla holla get $

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:46:54 No.89780462 Report

Quoted By: >>89782677

>>89779945
He's planning on changing the Jump King minigame completion achievement into an optional achievement so you don't need to beat it to get 100% achievement for the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:47:24 No.89780494 Report

Quoted By:

>>89767788
Pouncing enemies? Now that's really annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:52:25 No.89780847 Report

Quoted By: >>89781095 >>89781313

I think Holocure needs a character that drops friendly turrets, but I have no idea who it'd be with who is left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:54:38 No.89781011 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761178
Full marketing still isn't enough
I did a few runs yesterday with no Halu and felt like my leveling was crazy slow and I was struggling to do the damage I expected to be doing
Couldn't even get a full kit going in one of them

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:55:38 No.89781095 Report

Quoted By:

>>89780847
Botan? Koyori?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:56:17 No.89781151 Report

Quoted By: >>89783867

Thank you Noel, your ability to turn invulnerable and sit on a boss is my greatest ally

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 03:58:46 No.89781313 Report

Quoted By:

>>89780847
Biboo and his laser beam pebbles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:03:27 No.89781625 Report

Quoted By: >>89781675 >>89782524

>>89780134
Endless should be proper endless instead of having any kind of softcap. Just recycle spawn patterns at increasing strengths/speeds

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:04:11 No.89781675 Report

Quoted By:

>>89781625
Endless used to be endless with multi hour Ina runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:10:11 No.89782069 Report

Quoted By: >>89782148

>>89771281
True, Ina's tentacle offshoots trigger the focus shades. But in the case of that marine run I doubt it'd be worth the slot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:11:11 No.89782140 Report

Quoted By: >>89782229

>>89774421
That could make sense, I tried a similar build with no focus shades and only managed about 10m

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:11:20 No.89782148 Report

Quoted By:

>>89782069
Show your run with more than 29m Holocoins then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:12:44 No.89782229 Report

Quoted By:

>>89782140
Wouldn't be the first time poorly coded interactions gave the player a good outcome. Skullcup + Peko stamps used to be insane coin generation

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:17:51 No.89782524 Report

Quoted By: >>89782726

>>89781625
For what purpose.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:18:53 No.89782583 Report

Quoted By: >>89782610

I don't think I'll bother with endless anymore until Kay fixes the fucking leech stamp god it's so annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:19:25 No.89782610 Report

Quoted By: >>89782693 >>89782870

>>89782583
What's wrong with the leech stamp?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:20:40 No.89782677 Report

Quoted By: >>89782753

>>89780462
>so I understand some player's frustration towards being blocked by this achievement from 100%ing the game

>I want to create a separate list of special achievements that are more cruel and painful to get, but won't be counted towards the main achievement percentage, and won't be on Steam.

>100%ing the game

so basically there will be a de jure 100% (made for retards) and a de facto 100% (made for real chads)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:21:05 No.89782693 Report

Quoted By: >>89782870

>>89782610
Randomly stops healing with high enemy density or something, especially with yagoos. You can kickstart it again by removing and reapplying but it never lasts long.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:21:39 No.89782726 Report

Quoted By: >>89782818

>>89782524
... Because it's called endless mode?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:22:07 No.89782753 Report

Quoted By:

>>89782677
Cheevo whores vs people who set their own challenges I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:23:16 No.89782818 Report

Quoted By: >>89783103

>>89782726
If there is any kind of increasing difficulty then it will never be truly endless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:24:14 No.89782864 Report

Quoted By:

>>89766062
>>Fuwamoco will act like Ice climbers. They both have individual skills and can pick their weapons seperately.
And make them both have very low HP to balance out the double damage potential they could deal. If either one of them dies it's game over. Dodging projectiles would be much harder because there's a 2nd character following behind you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:24:17 No.89782870 Report

Quoted By:

>>89782693
>>89782610

Here's a video showing it, at first I thought it was just me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzaobQWZCco

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:28:53 No.89783103 Report

Quoted By: >>89783178

>>89782818
Well yeah, why would you want it to stop escalating
That's boring

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:29:47 No.89783178 Report

Quoted By: >>89783381

>>89783103
If it keeps escalating it won't be endless. You're the one complaining it isn't endless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:33:37 No.89783381 Report

Quoted By: >>89783556

>>89783178
Endless in this context means "however long the player can last"
While the current endless *technically* is that, the escalation of difficulty is extremely high at 30 minutes making it difficult to scale appropriately as the player. So it's effectively a cap

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:35:54 No.89783489 Report

Quoted By: >>89783607

trying some lvl 4 hard endless runs with Marine, and my framerate slows down to crawl as it progresses (going below 30 after 20 minutes)
can I fix this? turning off graphics settings do nothing. I'm on a Ryzen 5600, I feel like it should be able to handle it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:37:11 No.89783556 Report

Quoted By: >>89785296

>>89783381
Both are exactly the same thing. You just want a lower escalation rate. What's endless enough for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:38:12 No.89783607 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783489
Framerate's fine on mine unless I use the Marine Stink weapon collab.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:40:47 No.89783734 Report

Quoted By: >>89783813 >>89783850 >>89785263

>"Greed Stamp
>A very short cooldown has been added to reduce possible proc."
29m Holocoins bros...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:41:02 No.89783749 Report

Quoted By: >>89783813 >>89783867 >>89785263 >>89786963 >>89790664 >>89790788 >>89790853

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:42:12 No.89783813 Report

Quoted By: >>89783860

>>89783734
>>89783749
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I DON'T WANT TO GO FISHING AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:43:02 No.89783850 Report

Quoted By: >>89784191

>>89783734
Antifun again

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:43:10 No.89783860 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783813
You can farm coins in the Tower of Suffering instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:43:16 No.89783867 Report

Quoted By:

>>89781151
And again that's 2 for 2
>>89783749
Just in time too as I see Noel is getting a big nerf

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:49:09 No.89784191 Report

Quoted By: >>89784241 >>89784340

Ack I updated. Fuck me I wanted to try Noel properly once or twice.

>>89783850
Is it really fun to farm coins to skip playing the game, instead of playing the game? I do think it works as an "alternate challenge" on endless runs, but this isn't too different from removing Inalock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:50:12 No.89784241 Report

Quoted By: >>89785084

>>89784191
How else are you going to farm 390m coins? 10 hours of fishing without dropping your combo?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:50:12 No.89784242 Report

Quoted By:

Really hate that steam doesn't give you the option to NOT update.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:52:06 No.89784340 Report

Quoted By: >>89784532

>>89784191
If you want the 7777777 coin upgrades from pekomama this just made the grind 100 times worse

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:52:44 No.89784382 Report

Quoted By: >>89785894 >>89786300

Why nerf Noel? Cowards won't even turn on the leaderboard anyway so who gives a fuck?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:54:21 No.89784463 Report

Quoted By:

Is there a list to see which workers are ranged so I know who to hire? I have no ranged ones currently

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:55:20 No.89784532 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784340
You are missing a 7.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:56:03 No.89784565 Report

Quoted By: >>89784587 >>89784905

You don't need to speedrun those though, you'll get there eventually. They're literally 1-2% buffs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:56:27 No.89784587 Report

Quoted By: >>89784642

>>89784565
No, I need them now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 04:57:19 No.89784642 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784587
I understand friend but we missed the opportunity. Now it's either the slow way or cheat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:00:55 No.89784824 Report

Quoted By:

Managed to get my steam deck into airplane mode before it could download all these dumb nerfs. Pity I can't share the save data with my PC over steam cloud but I wanted to push the limit with Noel, dammit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:02:25 No.89784905 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784565
they are literally the only things I need to get apart from fan letters. I have nothing left to do in this game but those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:03:28 No.89784958 Report

Quoted By: >>89785005 >>89785014

Can I still farm coins with Irys or is it joever

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:04:37 No.89785005 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784958
It's joever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:04:44 No.89785014 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784958
joever.
The coin drop rate has been hard capped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:06:20 No.89785084 Report

Quoted By: >>89785330

>>89784241
Buying the fish bags in the casino doesn't translate in a better conversion of usacoins into Holocoins?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:10:40 No.89785263 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783734
>>89783749
very glad I cleaned out the shop yesterday. Such a shame...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:11:05 No.89785277 Report

Quoted By:

If I buy all the special upgrades will I get to... you know...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:11:30 No.89785296 Report

Quoted By: >>89786056

>>89783556
Not that anon but I think putting the yagoos at 50 minutes instead of 30 would be better.
Repeat the first 20 minutes of the stage but with larger-sized versions of the mobs, followed by the yagoos at the 50-minute mark.

This would give you plenty of time to max out on fully upgraded collabs/super collabs, and then you have to survive the remaining escalating difficulty with nothing but minor incremental stat boosts that you get from level up bonuses and anvil enhancements. Getting to the yagoos would be an actual challenge far exceeding the difficulty of the stage mode version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:12:22 No.89785330 Report

Quoted By:

>>89785084
They only give low tier fish. Even if they gave high tier fish, it'd still be shit income.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:19:20 No.89785625 Report

Quoted By:

>>89778308
That was the one sensible decision with the tower.
The tower really should've been a separate game though we all know it would've ended up as another holox brekkie, and kay yu didn't want that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:21:02 No.89785706 Report

Quoted By:

uh i deleted my old files when i saw the update
anyone got the previous itchio version?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:24:28 No.89785844 Report

Quoted By: >>89786237

surprised he didn't fuck with the slot machine afk while he's at it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:26:01 No.89785894 Report

Quoted By:

>>89784382
Ya I'm kinda worried Kay is going the route devs start doing when everyone is overpowered but the dev deems a certain overpowered character's gameplay isn't "fun" Honestly has no place in single player games. As long as he doesn't go to slippy slope with it because nerfing characters like this is what causes players to get annoyed and quit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:29:28 No.89786042 Report

Quoted By: >>89786152

I don't get what the big deal is. What's fun about farming tens of millions of coins at a time and having nothing left to spend them on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:29:47 No.89786056 Report

Quoted By:

>>89785296
>This would give you plenty of time to max out on fully upgraded collabs/super collabs
There already is more than enough time to max out every slot you have with a double-enchanted collab+super collab as long as you take Halu.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:30:49 No.89786102 Report

Quoted By:

Man, I fucking suck ass at this. Not counting the other 2 hour attempt I had.

But atlaest I have the satisfaction doing it all on my own without looking up any info or getting tips from anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:32:15 No.89786152 Report

Quoted By: >>89786350

>>89786042
whats the fun of farming only 1/10 of that and spending 10 times the amount of time grinding the same amount anyway, wouldnt that just become numb and pointless

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:33:22 No.89786211 Report

Quoted By: >>89786499 >>89786747 >>89786837

Balancing a single player game is so stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:34:04 No.89786237 Report

Quoted By: >>89786302

>>89785844
There is no slot machine AFK, if you use an auto-clicker you might as well just edit your save file with have everything unlocked. Both are equally cheating

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:35:37 No.89786300 Report

Quoted By: >>89786607

>>89784382
Why have a character that's a 20 when everyone else is an 8. Noel is not slightly better, she's flatout a mistake. Did you also cry when immortal Ina was removed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:35:39 No.89786302 Report

Quoted By: >>89786391

>>89786237
I have a controller with turbo, am I cheating? I'm just using my controller as its built.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:36:58 No.89786350 Report

Quoted By: >>89786492 >>89786556

>>89786152
If you don't want to play the game anymore you can just stop playing it. If you do want to play more of the game, then it's a good thing that you have more coin grinding to do to give you an excuse to keep playing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:37:55 No.89786391 Report

Quoted By: >>89786792

>>89786302
and I'm just using my text editor as its built

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:40:27 No.89786492 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786350
>If you do want to play more of the game
>give you an excuse to keep playing
So you don't actually want to play the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:40:28 No.89786493 Report

Quoted By:

I entered the casino, saw how grindy every section of it is and wrote the whole thing off. If I ever want those buffs I'll cheat them in but I refuse to participate in shitty skinnerbox game design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:40:34 No.89786499 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786211
Ya the money thing I can understand from a business point of view as you normally don't want your players to stop playing after buying everything, although since Holocure is free this is weirdly unique. Character nerfs though are almost always bad in single player games. They normally don't accomplish anything besides funneling players to drop their main and play other characters, as well as annoy and make people angry. Dev goals should be buffing weak characters and making every Characters gameplay viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:41:08 No.89786520 Report

Quoted By:

>mfw i hate playing my oshi

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:41:57 No.89786556 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786350
I want to unlock the things there, but I would rather not have to stab myself with a needle a million times to do it. Grinding is fine, absurdly large amounts of grinding is not. Reminds me of how Assassins Creed went down the route of "you can grind this out or you can pay us real money" where the grind was literally hundreds of hours that nobody actually had time for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:42:27 No.89786576 Report

Quoted By: >>89786612 >>89786679

Is fishing the main money making method now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:43:21 No.89786607 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786300
I was fine with the Ina nerf because I got more than 4 days to actually do the silly build. At least let people enjoy the OP for a little bit, if people think it makes it too easy they can just pick someone else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:43:27 No.89786612 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786576
Workers too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:44:38 No.89786665 Report

Quoted By:

Orange woman is the most fun for me to play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:44:57 No.89786679 Report

Quoted By: >>89786801

>>89786576
Yes, but actually no
It's the main money making method if you can get to 1000+ chain with script, else 10M with Marine per run is probably faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:46:26 No.89786747 Report

Quoted By: >>89786868

>>89786211
Retarded ass take. If a single player game is too easy then it sucks. If certain items or characters are far too much stronger than the others, it sucks too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:47:34 No.89786792 Report

Quoted By: >>89786966

>>89786391
There is functionally no difference between spamming the button or using turbo aside from you preserving your controller and joints, stop being dumb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:47:47 No.89786801 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786679
>10m with marine
not anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:48:44 No.89786837 Report

Quoted By:

>>89786211
The game is in active development and even if that wasn't the case it would still be a retarded take.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:49:24 No.89786868 Report

Quoted By: >>89786955

>>89786747
Why? Just play a different character. The strength of individual characters doesn't mean anything since none of them interact with each other at all and when the leaderboards did exist it was seperated by character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:49:38 No.89786871 Report

Quoted By:

Anyone done a coin run yet? I tried but I fucked it up and now I'm sleepy.
And I'm not sure leech stamp procs properly still, maybe it's just marine's weapon is shit at proccing it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:51:38 No.89786955 Report

Quoted By: >>89787061

>>89786868
>Why? Just play a different character.
Because an underpowered character can be just as unsatisfying to play as as an overpowered one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:51:52 No.89786963 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783749
Man, I'm glad I downloaded this shit right when it dropped on itch and don't play it on steam. Fuck that gay-ass no fun allowed bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:51:55 No.89786966 Report

Quoted By: >>89787011

>>89786792
oh, you were being serious. fucking lmao, just learn how to edit your save files, retard. it'll save yourself the hassle and time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:52:55 No.89787011 Report

Quoted By: >>89787050 >>89787063 >>89787091

>>89786966
>Just skip the game it'll save yourself hassle and time

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:53:51 No.89787050 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787011
>just push the button you'll get the cheese this time for sure

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:54:07 No.89787061 Report

Quoted By: >>89787111 >>89787240

>>89786955
Why not just buff the underpowered characters instead of nerfing the overpowered ones then...?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:54:09 No.89787063 Report

Quoted By: >>89787165

>>89787011
you're already doing that, just very stupidly

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:54:45 No.89787091 Report

Quoted By: >>89787165

>>89787011
If you're not having fun playing the main game anymore and just want to unlock all the Holo House stuff with minimal grinding, then hacking the coins into your game is the correct course of action, and that would be the case with or without this update.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:55:10 No.89787111 Report

Quoted By: >>89787164 >>89787281

>>89787061
Just so we're clear, since there's a lot of dumb people in this thread, this is not a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:56:50 No.89787164 Report

Quoted By: >>89787194

>>89787111
Power creep is for multiplayer games this games only multiplayer component was a leaderboard that was already segregated to individual characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:56:57 No.89787165 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787063
Anon, that's literally what slots are. You pull the lever, insert coin, pull the lever. Nothing wrong with using turbo for a bit.

>>89787091
You're not wrong, but I'm not suggesting people grind all the way through like this either. Variety is good. It's just a run of the slots can be made painless, literally, with a turbo button. It gives no other advantages besides sparing you the clicking for a bit. You don't even make money faster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:57:38 No.89787194 Report

Quoted By: >>89787228 >>89787238

>>89787164
see, you're part of the dumb people I mentioned

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:58:43 No.89787228 Report

Quoted By: >>89787355 >>89787491

>>89787194
he's right. powercreep doesn't matter in a singleplayer game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:59:05 No.89787238 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787194
No you're just applying your competitive gaming design philosophy to a genre that exists solely as a power fantasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 05:59:07 No.89787240 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787061
Because then instead of one character trivializing the content, every character does, are you hearing yourself?

This isnt' a simple matter of choosing your difficulty either. If your oshi is too strong the game becomes boring with her, if she's too weak it becomes frustrating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:00:01 No.89787270 Report

Quoted By: >>89790298

>playing 3 Hard
>killed Spiderchama
>got its fan letter when I was nowhere near the boss
Is this new? Is this so that you get fan letters for bosses even on normal stages?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:00:16 No.89787281 Report

Quoted By: >>89787491

>>89787111
There's no such thing as power creep in this game. Every character is separate from every other character. They do not affect each other. Saying "Noel is stronger than Flare so I can't play Flare" is just as nonsensical as saying "Mario is faster to clear than Dark Souls so I can't play Dark Souls".
The only reason to nerf a character that's seen as too strong is if she clears too easily such that it's no longer fun to play her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:00:26 No.89787288 Report

Quoted By:

wow /vt/ is full of casuals

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:00:44 No.89787299 Report

Quoted By: >>89787396 >>89787406 >>89787454

so no rushia? not even as a super secret character that only kaela would unlock?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:02:11 No.89787355 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787228
Depends.
It doesn't only if there exists content that justifies the powerlevel.

For example, holocure stage 1 normal currently, with all the bonuses unlocked, is easy. But for the new player starting out with no bonuses who's learning the game, it's a reasonable challenge. Because there's some balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:02:26 No.89787363 Report

Quoted By: >>89787422 >>89787458

Theres 4 purchases in the shop that trivialize the game more than any OP character ever could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:03:27 No.89787396 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787299
>not even as a super secret character that only kaela would unlock?
That'd be worse than just adding her. Let go of it already.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:03:49 No.89787406 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787299
You need to beat the jump king tower with every other member of her gen. This unlocks the next clue...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:03:55 No.89787410 Report

Quoted By: >>89787496

never played jump king before. this was not fun. ggs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:04:24 No.89787422 Report

Quoted By: >>89787458

>>89787363
Pretty much this, all the shop stuff trivializes the game to the point that all the characters are overpowered and make the game relatively easy. Which is why nerfing characters doesn't really make sense, and just limits the fun power fantasy fans want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:05:09 No.89787454 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787299
She'll be the boss of 5 Hard who summons all the other fired/graduated members from the dead, including Hitomi Chris

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:05:13 No.89787458 Report

Quoted By: >>89787489 >>89787672

>>89787363
>>89787422

But it trivializes it equally for everyone and it's up to you to use them.
And since it does, why do you need an overpowered character on top of that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:06:04 No.89787489 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787458
Tell me, what is overpowered. In general in this game, what is overpowered.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:06:10 No.89787491 Report

Quoted By: >>89787526 >>89787588

Re: the greed stamp, I understand people's frustration. You don't actually need that much gold, but people like to see numbers go up. Functionally it replaced the score and worked as a challenge for a small niche. I see why Kay Yu would nerf it but it will suck for some people.

With the slots, they are made for people who like to gamble. If you are turboing, you might as well edit the files. You are already not playing the game in the intended way and you are not breaking the game in a creative way. Ultimately it doesn't matter, but you are lying to yourself.

>>89787281
>>89787228
Power creep exists and matters even in single player games.
It's easy to say "well just don't use the strongest characters then" but this is not how people operate. Obviously perfect balance is impossible, but when you have stuff like Zeta being worse Ame it sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:06:21 No.89787496 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787410
based gameplayer, congrats!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:07:13 No.89787526 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787491
>you don't actually need that much gold
Idk 77m per casino item is a lot of gold

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:08:41 No.89787580 Report

Quoted By: >>89787653 >>89787655

the casino is actually bullshit, unless you farm the fucking slots for HOURS. can you max your chips with cheatengine? the game closes whenever i try to use CE on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:08:55 No.89787588 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787491
>If you are turboing, you might as well edit the files
Turboing the slots doesn't improve your chances or save you time, it literally just makes it so you don't have to press the same button 3 times every round.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:09:15 No.89787600 Report

Quoted By:

What's the actual probability of getting a fan letter, both with or without the corresponding girl, and with or without the rabbit foot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:10:27 No.89787641 Report

Quoted By: >>89787847

Why do people recommend Membership for coin farming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:10:52 No.89787653 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787580
Fight pits is the meta apparently but then you have to engage with another skinnerbox(management) and fish hundreds of low tier fish that never drop with higher tier rods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:10:56 No.89787655 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787580
There's definitely some sort of cheap protection seeing as how there was a leaderboard with sane looking scores.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:11:21 No.89787672 Report

Quoted By: >>89787717

>>89787458
>Game about playing fantasy anime girls who are all mystically strong for the most part.

I just want the power fantasy of wanting to beat down enemies with my oshi anon while listening to her soundtrack. It's not that hard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:12:52 No.89787717 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787672
You already have that when the game is balanced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:14:19 No.89787777 Report

Quoted By: >>89787868

Hot take, the game is balanced already there's no need to adjust any stats unless it could lead to soft locking the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:16:16 No.89787847 Report

Quoted By: >>89788044

>>89787641

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:16:47 No.89787868 Report

Quoted By: >>89787939

>>89787777
Noel was not balanced in any way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:17:09 No.89787882 Report

Quoted By: >>89787944

so a melee worker has no chance in the arena, right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:18:43 No.89787939 Report

Quoted By: >>89787996 >>89788007 >>89788046

>>89787868
Could she softlock the game? If the answer is no then the game was balanced. Some characters will be easier to play than others, not everything needs to be equal. If you want everyone to be equal, then remove all individual abilities and personality for the characters. Trying to please everyone pleases no one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:18:49 No.89787944 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787882
You don't bring a knife to a gun fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:20:14 No.89787996 Report

Quoted By: >>89788046 >>89788058 >>89788105

>>89787939
>Some characters will be easier to play than others
As it should be.
Some characters completely outclassing others though? Nah, that's awful, which is why balance matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:20:30 No.89788007 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787939
Retard moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:21:52 No.89788044 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787847
I don't get it? Neither of those two effects are remarkable. Is it because both appear together on one item?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:21:54 No.89788046 Report

Quoted By: >>89788157 >>89788182

>>89787939
>>89787996
I also want balance but I think instead of nerfing strong characters they should buff bad weaker ones instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:22:09 No.89788058 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787996
Why is it awful? Why does one character being better decrease your enjoyment of the other characters? A little better is okay by your own admission. At what threshold does it become not okay and why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:23:21 No.89788105 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787996
The only balancing that needs to be done is to prevent the game from going into a softlock, everything else is pointless. There will always be some meta that people find, and then everyone who doesn't use that is using an underpowered character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:24:54 No.89788157 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788046
I agree, a buff is a nice surprise that may get you to look at a character again (especially if its not just a number tweak) while a nerf will definitely drive away people who like particular characters both from the character and the game in general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:25:19 No.89788182 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788046
They should do both, Noel was beyond overpowered, and the really weak ones with weird kits that don't quite work as intended need a buff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:26:13 No.89788215 Report

Quoted By:

The correct approach to game design is to have a baseline of expectations for character performance, and fix ALL outliers, whether it's a buff or a nerf. Going into either extreme by only buffing or only nerfing is retarded and ruins the health of the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:26:26 No.89788230 Report

Quoted By: >>89790197

I think the noel nerf isnt that bad but he does need to buff some other characters that have been underpowered since release

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:27:56 No.89788275 Report

Quoted By: >>89788343

He needs to redo subaru's main weapon since she has zero affiliation with baseball.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:28:42 No.89788305 Report

Quoted By: >>89788394

I think he should buff Ina, and increase possible coin gain with Ina, and create weapons and collabs that work best with Ina and make a takodachi pet that ina can feed cookies to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:29:42 No.89788343 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788275
The thing is it SHOULD be the sausage but you can't just get rid of the current one just so Subaru can use it as a primary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:30:15 No.89788362 Report

Quoted By: >>89788470 >>89789169 >>89791694

On a final note, I think there's a place for "joke characters" that are outliers in either end of the spectrum, but it should be intentional.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:30:52 No.89788394 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788305
Shut up Flare or I'll send you a clownfish chain email.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:30:59 No.89788397 Report

Quoted By: >>89788471 >>89788533

There's so many shit items and characters in this game that he should really throw us bone with some buffs to offset the nerfs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:32:46 No.89788470 Report

Quoted By: >>89788538

>>89788362
He should make a secret unlock that has access to every characters kits instead of base weapons and items.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:32:46 No.89788471 Report

Quoted By: >>89788831

>>89788397
Kay did buff them. You can disable items you don't like in the armory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:34:36 No.89788533 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788397
I agree some of the less useful items could be buffed or reworked, even if only to synergyze with specific character abilities, but there's a lot of strong combos already right? I mean you can reach 40m+ on any stage with a lot of characters with certain builds, and no one has real trouble clearing the content currently.
The disparity only shows itself in challenge runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:34:48 No.89788538 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788470
Honestly, make that the "Reward" for Gachikoi rank. Every character at that rank unlocks an "Idol" version of the character with all the character abilities maxed at the start.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:41:31 No.89788831 Report

Quoted By: >>89788907

>>89788471
Not enough. My item choices haven't changed at all post update. There's too many items that just don't scale at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:42:47 No.89788907 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788831
Ehhh, it's fine. Not every item has to be equally useful in a 40 minute endless run. It's fine if some items are only good for newbies getting their first wins.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:46:33 No.89789060 Report

Quoted By: >>89789202

threw all the fan letter stuff into excel to figure out the totals myself and in the process found this. gave me a chuckle, either the wiki writer dun goofed or the devs did. it's #27 Onigiriya if anyone can check in game, I don't have that one yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:48:59 No.89789169 Report

Quoted By: >>89789681 >>89790558 >>89791694

>>89788362
>I think there's a place for "joke characters" that are outliers in either end of the spectrum
The problem is that then the joke character is your oshi and you can't play as her because she sucks/is too strong and trivializes the game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:50:08 No.89789202 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789060

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:52:18 No.89789306 Report

Quoted By:

Runs aren't fun without max greed

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:54:13 No.89789386 Report

Quoted By: >>89789429 >>89789451

How do I disable items? I can't seem to find the option in the armory

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:55:15 No.89789429 Report

Quoted By: >>89789547

>>89789386
Just click on them after buying the upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:55:28 No.89789436 Report

Quoted By: >>89789993

So what happens if you get the questions wrong in Stage 4H?
I thought I got them all right, but the achievement didn't pop so I must've missed one, but nothing happened like damage or anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:55:48 No.89789451 Report

Quoted By: >>89789547

>>89789386
Just click on them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:58:39 No.89789547 Report

Quoted By: >>89789577

>>89789429
>>89789451
I'm clicking it's not doing anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:59:16 No.89789568 Report

Quoted By:

Promise tiara seems mandatory for endless runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 06:59:32 No.89789577 Report

Quoted By: >>89789617

>>89789547
Buy the upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:00:23 No.89789617 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789577
Thanks bro, I'm a fucking retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:01:53 No.89789681 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789169
The ideal joke character is one that seems worthless but with a little bit of skill and creativity can be really good, like Dr. B in Tekken

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:03:29 No.89789741 Report

Quoted By: >>89789986 >>89790778

For the "clearing a hard stage without healing items"
Can I not use characters like Fauna and Watame ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:10:06 No.89789986 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789741
You can, it's about items only

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:10:19 No.89789993 Report

Quoted By: >>89790328

>>89789436
The Ollie shoots you with a laser. Some characters can just outright tank it but fragile Hologirls tend to die after getting 2 problems wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:12:25 No.89790056 Report

Quoted By: >>89790595

Hooo boy I just tried >>89761836 this and instead of 10M it gave me 650k instead, nerf hits hard
.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:15:56 No.89790197 Report

Quoted By: >>89790577

>>89788230
>Noel nerf almost cuts her dps in half
>still cleared Stage 4 Hard with Halu 5 easily and was swinging for over 1k damage
The nerf basically reigned in her damage to be less than Bae but still really damn high overall in the roster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:19:34 No.89790298 Report

Quoted By:

>>89787270
Yes, fan letters auto collect from the 20m boss in stage mode now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:20:32 No.89790328 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789993
Weird, I don't think that happened to me, but I didn't get the achievement

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:21:49 No.89790369 Report

Quoted By:

Bae sure does a lot of damage. Melted Pekodam in 1 second.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:27:38 No.89790535 Report

Quoted By:

>Replaces a bony fish considered barely edible with one of the most popular fish in sushi.
Did Flare accidently make the game better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:28:31 No.89790558 Report

Quoted By: >>89791694

>>89789169
Agree, it would have to be an actual outlier/meme like yagoo or the Wahtcher or Sonic Korone or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:29:07 No.89790574 Report

Quoted By:

The greed stamp nerf is actually insane, this shit does nothing now

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:29:12 No.89790577 Report

Quoted By: >>89790621 >>89790822

>>89790197
here i was thinking coco was just as broken but he only buffed her a day after. not complaining since she was my most looked forward to

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:29:54 No.89790595 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790056
It's fucking ogre
Time for Reine to become the meta

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:30:38 No.89790610 Report

Quoted By: >>89790642

welp i guess that's that for the next 14 months, thanks kay, sorry i didn't wanna play your shitty jump king game

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:31:07 No.89790621 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790577
Oh I was wondering about that, I tried her today and she seems really fucking strong.
Gave her an all swords build with gorilla breath and she was obliterating everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:31:48 No.89790642 Report

Quoted By: >>89790720

>>89790610
>Whining the game is getting balanced.
Let me guess, you are one of those retards that thinks balance doesn't matter for singleplayer games and doesn't understand why this shit is getting fixed at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:32:39 No.89790664 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783749
Thank you Skyrim for teaching me how to disable updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:34:19 No.89790709 Report

Quoted By:

>Got a super headphones drop
>Accidentally blocked the wrong item that was vital to my build

Bummer.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:34:26 No.89790715 Report

Quoted By:

did a run and then got distracted but yeah here are the total buffs from fan letters

>>89758984
may as well attach it to the OP too

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:34:39 No.89790720 Report

Quoted By: >>89790765

>>89790642
uhh sure, i just wanted to try to minmax marine runs and buy out the coin shop in the casino but that doesn't seem feasible now

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:36:01 No.89790765 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790720
Not that guy but if all you really had to look forward to was grinding coin for negligible upgrades it probably wouldn't have been all that fun anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:36:32 No.89790778 Report

Quoted By:

>>89789741
You can also use the lifesteal stamp since it's not an item.
I did it without intending to that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:37:05 No.89790788 Report

Quoted By:

>>89783749
suddenly, for some reason I don't feel like downloading the new version for a while

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:38:33 No.89790822 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790577
Noel snowballs as a character harder than everyone else imo. Once you hit a certain amount of HP you not only become practically unkillable in most cases but your damage just shoots through the goddamn roof because Noel's damage output is tied to how tanky you can get her. Prior to the nerf I would say she snowballs hard once you hit 400hp but with the nerf the point where she skyrockets in damage is moved up to line 600hp.

It's not hard to get this much HP for Noel also even in Stage mode (Jingiskan +100HP, Piman +25HP, Bandage +30HP, Noel has the highest base health so health stat ups scale better with her, etc).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:39:36 No.89790853 Report

Quoted By: >>89790878 >>89790899 >>89791045

>>89783749
the marine change i can (kind of) understand but why touch the greed stamp NOW? kay wants more useless fucking stamps

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:40:58 No.89790878 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790853
The so called "very short cooldown" is like 5 fucking seconds. This thing is beyond worthless now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:41:47 No.89790899 Report

Quoted By: >>89791061

>>89790853
>why touch the greed stamp NOW?
As he said himself, he wants to keep adding things and it trivialized coin collecting which would only become more of an issue over time for longtime players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:47:05 No.89791045 Report

Quoted By: >>89791099 >>89791146 >>89791180

>>89790853
Coins are very directly the main game progression mechanic.
Starting as a new player, doing 1-2 runs, and immediately being able to buy out the entire shop and get all characters isn't the way.
I honestly think he should nerf Coin gains more for Marine/Reine, it's still way too fast.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:47:46 No.89791061 Report

Quoted By:

>>89790899
>we've gotten to the point where even single-player games get inflation
funny how that works

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:48:40 No.89791085 Report

Quoted By: >>89791129

He needs to do just make HoloDew Valley already and just move all the HoloHouse shit there. Seriously, for all the time wasted on it, he could have added Gen Five and Advent to the game as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:49:21 No.89791099 Report

Quoted By: >>89791174

>>89791045
It is literally their gimmick man, marine just got double nerfed. Don't make them useless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:50:22 No.89791129 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791085
Nah.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:50:59 No.89791146 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791045
>Starting as a new player, doing 1-2 runs, and immediately being able to buy out the entire shop and get all characters isn't the way.
Yeah, but the problem is a new player is also going to struggle to get coins still because they don't know these pro strats at all. He should buff the amount of coins you get for standard runs that don't involve exploiting any tricks to boost it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:52:06 No.89791174 Report

Quoted By: >>89791204

>>89791099
Sure, but for a gimmick it's too much. Have them drop lots of coins, that's all well and good, but not 100x as much as anyone else.
Clearing a single run and getting Coins in the millions shouldn't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:52:15 No.89791180 Report

Quoted By: >>89791288

>>89791045
I think we're also hitting the point where the game can't keep inflating prices of new things every update to accommodate how fast it is to farm money. If it keeps up than prices will start looking like Zimbabwe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:53:29 No.89791204 Report

Quoted By: >>89791271

>>89791174
It only happens with specific builds in specific stages with specific strats, man, not in regular gameplay.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:55:26 No.89791271 Report

Quoted By: >>89791334

>>89791204
Marine? No. She gets obscene amounts of coins almost no matter what you do. You'd have to purposefully go out of your way to come up with a build that doesn't shit coins out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:56:04 No.89791288 Report

Quoted By: >>89791314 >>89791435 >>89791475 >>89791662

>>89791180
But the prices are already balanced for Zimbabwe dollars, just look at the casino. Nerfing coins now just fucks over new players who didn't have access to OP coin farming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:56:49 No.89791314 Report

Quoted By: >>89791350 >>89791380

>>89791288
>just look at the casino.
He could always nerf casino prices.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:57:26 No.89791334 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791271
If the coin strat is now giving less than 1M per run I don't think any amount Marine gets in normal gameplay would be an issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:57:55 No.89791350 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791314
Then people who paid full price are going to be pissed. Touching coins was a bad idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 07:58:54 No.89791380 Report

Quoted By: >>89791513

>>89791314
He won't though
https://x.com/holocuredev/status/1858743151743119472

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:00:46 No.89791435 Report

Quoted By: >>89791537

>>89791288
To be fair the Casino shit isn't meant to be reasonable, it's supposed to be a huge scam. 77m for 2% Pick Up Range - these aren't meant to be upgrades you get for progression, they are money dumps for the autists that Gachikoi'd every girl.
This discussion is specifically about the game progression, end of endgame money dumps don't factor into that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:01:58 No.89791475 Report

Quoted By: >>89791502 >>89791579

>>89791288
>who didn't have access to OP coin farming.
Fishing is completely untouched though lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:02:48 No.89791502 Report

Quoted By: >>89791564

>>89791475
Fishing is a lot of money but not everyone's good at the minigame and it definitely wouldn't net you nearly as much as pre nerf marine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:03:15 No.89791513 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791380
Hey it's not a scam if you just script fishing!
Seriously why can't he just make other scam items similar to Casino Drink instead of something that give actual stats?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:03:50 No.89791537 Report

Quoted By: >>89791601 >>89791681

>>89791435
>To be fair the Casino shit isn't meant to be reasonable, it's supposed to be a huge scam
Okay but now there's peopel with 1-2% better stats than most and no one else can reasonably get them without cheating.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:04:40 No.89791564 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791502
>and it definitely wouldn't net you nearly as much as pre nerf marine.
It does you just have to set aside a few hours and not drop your chain

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:05:12 No.89791579 Report

Quoted By: >>89791695

>>89791475
Playing a shitty rhythm game to farm coins should not be considered a reasonable alternative to farming coins naturally from playing the actual game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:06:10 No.89791601 Report

Quoted By: >>89791665 >>89791701

>>89791537
It's a casual game for casual gamers anon, not an esport.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:08:17 No.89791662 Report

Quoted By: >>89791831

>>89791288
We're still in the millions of coin prices range. Adjusting for pre-nerf coin farming rates would require having to move things into the hundred millions and possibly billions of coins in future updates due to tens of millions of coins being possible to obtain in just a single run.

As for new players you don't even need to make that much to fill out the stat upgrade screen. The nerf to Greed stamp and Marine from what I can tell is to prevent future hyperinflation for what's supposed to be the money sink stuff (Holohouse cosmetics and such).

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:08:24 No.89791665 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791601
Shut the fuck up I need those stats

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:09:02 No.89791681 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791537
99.999999999999% of players aren't gonna grind out all Fan Letters either despite them being way more reasonable than any of those 77m items with unnerfed Marine.
You are being pretty silly if you think anyone but you and like 10 other people are gonna care about those 1-2%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:09:33 No.89791694 Report

Quoted By:

>>89788362
>>89789169
>>89790558
is Ui mama possible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:09:38 No.89791695 Report

Quoted By: >>89791719

>>89791579
>playing the actual game.
holohouse is the actual game, the gameplay loop is designed around going there, you can't pretend it is an entirely different thing when all the modes feed into each other.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:09:50 No.89791701 Report

Quoted By: >>89791761

>>89791601
By that argument there was no reason to nerf income.
It's a casual game for casual gamers and no one is hurt by people having fun farming coins.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:10:29 No.89791719 Report

Quoted By: >>89791796

>>89791695
https://x.com/holocuredev/status/1858750755986903548

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:11:36 No.89791756 Report

Quoted By:

>you can cook a bunch of food now and they all get combined in the food selection menu so you don't have to set auto cook on or change the food, just cook a bunch of each and select which one you wanna use before playing
Holy shit this is a game changer wtf, I can now actually use food without having to bother cooking them after a couple of uses, neato.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:11:58 No.89791761 Report

Quoted By: >>89791845 >>89791853 >>89791869 >>89791927

>>89791701
No, it absolutely was necessary. Dumping shitloads of coins onto you as a newbie very directly skips 99% of the game's progression for casual players.
Greed Stamp was the worst offender since multihit characters that make good use of it are so common, but Marine was plenty bad too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:12:21 No.89791774 Report

Quoted By: >>89791930

What a bunch of feature bloat.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:12:48 No.89791790 Report

Quoted By:

this sick fuck has already made me more money than anything else in this casino
built like a tank, retreat like a skank, making mad bank

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:13:00 No.89791796 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791719
He can meme whatever he wants, the two modes do feed into one another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:14:11 No.89791831 Report

Quoted By: >>89791999

>>89791662
This doesn't hold up. AZKi was farming nearly as well as Marine before this major update. No one's out there farming billions of gold with no targets to aim for besides the people using coins as a leader board criteria and they're still going to have billions regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:14:40 No.89791845 Report

Quoted By: >>89791897

>>89791761
>Dumping shitloads of coins onto you as a newbie
Newbies don't know farming strats, can't execute them even if they do, and if they specifically look them up and put them into practice they aren't newbies anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:14:57 No.89791853 Report

Quoted By: >>89791897

>>89791761
Newbies weren't accidentally getting shitloads of coins though.
That shit took specific builds (that include items you have to unlock) with specific characters in endless mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:15:24 No.89791869 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791761
New players aren't getting millions a run. Maps have a coin multiplier, and no newbie is going to grab every gold item when they're just trying to survive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:16:38 No.89791897 Report

Quoted By: >>89791980 >>89792028

>>89791845
>>89791853
Greed Stamp does not require any kind of "strat". It's quite literally just see skull icon on map, pick it up, and shoot enemies for enough cash to unlock half the shop in a single run depending on which girl you happened to play as.
That ABSOLUTELY was a problem.
We are not talking about those 20m+ AZKi setups or Marine's new bullshit here, even just playing normally you'd end up with hundreds of thousands which to a new player is way too much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:17:32 No.89791927 Report

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>>89791761
Anon actual 'new' players won't suddenly get a revelation and do Irys coin strat immediately.
If anything they will probably see Halu as nonsensical item since it'd just make them die quicker, also Armory upgrade of limiting your weapon since who the fuck doesn't want access to all the powerful collabs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:17:34 No.89791930 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791774
>feature bloat.
Disagree, the game needs more features (ie prisms that have different effects) not less of them. The game wouldn't be better if they removed stuff like the new action button or fan letters for example, it would just feel more empty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:19:29 No.89791980 Report

Quoted By: >>89792048

>>89791897
Anon, with greed stamp and no real strat you would get a lot of coins, but probably closer to 100-500K. Getting over 1M took a build. Getting over 6 took Azki, getting over 10 took marine.

Look at the coin numbers most holos get when they coin farm. Nothing close to the really big farms.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:20:06 No.89791999 Report

Quoted By: >>89792060 >>89792095

>>89791831
The Marine farming with greedstamp hit a new record which eclipsed any previous farming method including the Azki farm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:20:36 No.89792015 Report

Quoted By: >>89792100

Nerfing a single player game is retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:20:53 No.89792028 Report

Quoted By:

>>89791897
The "hundreds of thousands" that you get by picking up greed stamp in a normal stage mode run can't even max a single stat, and even if it did who gives a shit?
Are we gonna act like grinding coins 10k at a time so that you can afford to buy 4% more health after a couple hours is fun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:21:36 No.89792048 Report

Quoted By: >>89792102

>>89791980
You are literally repeating what I said.
>just playing normally you'd end up with hundreds of thousands which to a new player is way too much.
Are you telling me a new player on his 4th or 5th run suddenly being bombed with "100-500k" coins and instantly buying out most of the shop/characters is good game progression?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:22:09 No.89792060 Report

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>>89791999
The nerfs should be character specific instead of across the board (ie items don't work as well with some characters) as much as that bothers some people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:23:10 No.89792095 Report

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>>89791999
I checked after the update, DoTs other than Marine smell won't proc Pirate captain anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:23:18 No.89792100 Report

Quoted By: >>89792175

>>89792015
Power creep is a bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:23:23 No.89792102 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792048
You'd only get over 100k if you happened to pick irys/azki and halu and SC. In other words, if you've unlocked characters, items, etc and made a build around it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:26:02 No.89792175 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792100
It doesn't matter. It's single player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:26:30 No.89792190 Report

Quoted By: >>89792234 >>89792252

Does anyone think farming coins to buy a X% stat buff that is accounted for in the balance of the next level is fun?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:26:59 No.89792204 Report

Quoted By: >>89792373 >>89792458 >>89792954

Someone tell him this is a far bigger issue than the high level coin farms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:28:03 No.89792234 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792190
Farming coin is/was a fun challenge as is, honestly. Like a side challenge to surviving yagoo as long as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:28:28 No.89792245 Report

Quoted By:

that nerf was so ass i just cheated all the coins i wanted to grind
thanks kay yu kys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:28:44 No.89792252 Report

Quoted By: >>89792321

>>89792190
I think it would be more fun on a fresh save file to just remove some of that stat stuff entirely and make the early normal levels a bit harder with the new balance in mind. It is the worst kind of busy work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:30:10 No.89792304 Report

Quoted By: >>89792355

Where are the enemies? I only see one bullet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:30:49 No.89792321 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792252
This guy gets it. +X% upgrades have always been bad game design. I can't believe there's a guy defending new player experience based around buying these upgrades.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:31:52 No.89792355 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792304

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:31:59 No.89792357 Report

Quoted By: >>89792505

>This character is too strong. We need to put a stop to this.
>"But people clearly enjoy playing as her."
>Yes but now she is the only character people are picking.
>"Then make the other characters more desirable."
>No, the solution is to make this character less desirable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:32:17 No.89792373 Report

Quoted By: >>89792389 >>89792390

>>89792204
This. The customize completely negates the whole point of the game. I haven't used it yet and I refuse to use it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:33:19 No.89792389 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792373
Same. Thought about turning off shit like beetle that I would literally never take, but it just feels wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:33:19 No.89792390 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792373
I used it once and man, it feels like actual cheating.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:35:44 No.89792458 Report

Quoted By: >>89792505 >>89792752 >>89792954

>>89792204
this is the closest thing to a sandbox mode we have. i think if you disable any armory item then the holocoin payout should be slashed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:37:25 No.89792505 Report

Quoted By: >>89792552

>>89792458
>i think if you disable any armory item then the holocoin payout should be slashed.
I'm sure a penalty will be added eventually.
>>89792357
First time beta testing a game for free I take it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:39:09 No.89792552 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792505
>I'm sure a penalty will be added eventually.
Far more urgent than coin farming.

Disabling items should slash all rewards and not count towards the leaderboard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:39:32 No.89792562 Report

Quoted By: >>89792611

>>89761189
This is probably my biggest issue with the new map. Everything deals so much damage that you really gotta be on top of dodging things. Meanwhile some fuck off tree whose hitbox is annoying af to judge and completely stops all your movement at the slightest touch:

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:41:06 No.89792611 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792562
>Meanwhile some fuck off tree whose hitbox is annoying af to judge and completely stops all your movement at the slightest touch:
He should implement some kind of "nudge" system where if you only clip the side of an object it slides you off it enough not to stick to it.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:42:51 No.89792644 Report

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My least favorite change to the game is Azki's GeoGuesser skill. Even with the multiple zones I don't want to turtle with her and you can't expand the size of the zones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:43:15 No.89792656 Report

Quoted By: >>89792678 >>89792685

What's the golden hammer for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:44:08 No.89792678 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792656
you need it for super collabs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:44:08 No.89792679 Report

Quoted By:

baker sama

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:44:28 No.89792685 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792656
Limiting the amount of super collabs you can get in 1 run, and the level you can access them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:47:13 No.89792752 Report

Quoted By: >>89792954

>>89792458
nah, your dick should be slashed because only a tranny would use that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:51:56 No.89792864 Report

Quoted By: >>89792968

Well Kay says that since the top players have infinite money and cuztomize their saves to only unlock the items they need, this feature serves to give average players the same advantage and as a QOL feature for specific build runs.

I'm not sure how I feel about that but it's something.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:55:19 No.89792954 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792204
>>89792458
>>89792752
purity spiral speedrun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:55:58 No.89792968 Report

Quoted By: >>89793040

>>89792864
The whole point of the genre is getting the god build through rng. The system would be fine if it was limited to just a couple removals and if we didn't have 10 rerolls, 10 eliminates and now 5 holds on top of that. Might as well add a "I win" button that instantly wins the game and give you 9 billion coins as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 08:58:34 No.89793040 Report

Quoted By:

>>89792968
I think the solution should be to disqualify users from leaderboards and slash coin gain. So it'd be useful for experimentation but not for actual runs.
Sure, some players will continue editing their saves to get the specific builds they want, but cheaters gonna cheat.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:04:26 No.89793176 Report

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I used it once on Noel then said fuck it because I can't be assed to edit it for every character and I don't always want to play the same one back to back.

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:08:38 No.89793255 Report

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When does the game get difficult?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:09:52 No.89793279 Report

Quoted By: >>89793425

the games already intentionally easy as shit does the optional armory selection really bother you all that much

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:11:37 No.89793313 Report

Quoted By:

Wow, the game just got 3% easier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:16:58 No.89793425 Report

Quoted By:

>>89793279
Yes, you should only be allowed to play the game the way I like. Otherwise you're a fake gamer and a tranny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:21:15 No.89793521 Report

Quoted By:

>>89761259
BASED BASED BASED

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 19 Nov 2024 09:22:07 No.89793535 Report

Quoted By:

fresh
>>89793507

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