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Ceres Fauna of Hololive English is graduating in a little over 24 hours. I'm interested in how successful you think she'll be as an indie vtuber long term.
She left the indie world over 3 years ago and in that time I think the landscape of indie vtubing changed pretty significantly, to the point that were vtubers who blew up in popularity and faded into 3views just during that time period.
Her strengths in hololive were ASMR, being cute, very consistent streaming/time slot, quirkiness, odd interests, sometimes interesting game choices, regular karaoke streams.
She's not very good at singing or dancing, but does seem to enjoy them. She also did make use of a 3D model pretty regularly but with bad tracking.
Naturally she will initially bring over a large portion of her current hololive audience and indie viewers interested in watching her for the first time.
But I think there are issues
She's totally out of touch with the current trends for indie vtubers. Is she going to be doing body cam streams? Is she going to be doing fansly/lewd content? Does she keep up with gen alpha tik tok memes and music references? Is she up to date on current twitch culture? It's nice to say 'who gives a shit she's better off without it' but still.
Growth potential for indies obviously relies on the individual but also keeping up with the trends, staying relevant with shorts/content/discord/tweets/etc., and ESPECIALLY through networking, building relationships with other indies and their communities, and COLLABS. Even the weirdest quirky edgy girl indies have their friend groups and branch out to do collabs to meet other vtubers. Even within hololive fauna struggled to ask for collabs or make connections with members that manifested on streams (being friends off stream doesn't really matter for growth purposes). All of these things are important for growth and opportunities like merch, which some of the main vtuber sponsoring companies are run by or are affiliated directly with an indie vtuber.
Her strengths might have been meaningful in hololive or in the 2020 indie scene, but in 2025? None of them feel particularly unique or relevant with just how many new vtubers have started streaming in the last 5 years. Being consistent at streaming for 3 hours a day matters in hololive but for indies there are girls who will stream 9 hours a day casually. Being a bad singer in hololive can be cute and endearing but will people tune in to a mediocre singer indie? What exactly will she be doing to stand out in a much more competitive indie scene? Not swearing on stream and being 'clean' is nice for hololive but will it work for her in collabs outside?
Who are her friends going to be? And maybe more importantly, who are her enemies going to be? Indie drama gets way more intense than hololive drama, there are people who will lie about you to their friends to ruin your reputation which costs you collabs/event/merch oppurtunities, phony managers who just want your money, scam merch companies who never deliver, cliques and infighting, etc. Is Fauna ready to deal with all of that at once?
I'm more interested in how Fauna will be as an indie than I was with Ame because her style was already well adapted to indie vtubing. Well maybe Fauna is just going to soft retire with the money she saved up in hololive and stream once a week and drop some shorts, or maybe she's going to radically change her streaming approach as an indie, only time will tell.
She left the indie world over 3 years ago and in that time I think the landscape of indie vtubing changed pretty significantly, to the point that were vtubers who blew up in popularity and faded into 3views just during that time period.
Her strengths in hololive were ASMR, being cute, very consistent streaming/time slot, quirkiness, odd interests, sometimes interesting game choices, regular karaoke streams.
She's not very good at singing or dancing, but does seem to enjoy them. She also did make use of a 3D model pretty regularly but with bad tracking.
Naturally she will initially bring over a large portion of her current hololive audience and indie viewers interested in watching her for the first time.
But I think there are issues
She's totally out of touch with the current trends for indie vtubers. Is she going to be doing body cam streams? Is she going to be doing fansly/lewd content? Does she keep up with gen alpha tik tok memes and music references? Is she up to date on current twitch culture? It's nice to say 'who gives a shit she's better off without it' but still.
Growth potential for indies obviously relies on the individual but also keeping up with the trends, staying relevant with shorts/content/discord/tweets/etc., and ESPECIALLY through networking, building relationships with other indies and their communities, and COLLABS. Even the weirdest quirky edgy girl indies have their friend groups and branch out to do collabs to meet other vtubers. Even within hololive fauna struggled to ask for collabs or make connections with members that manifested on streams (being friends off stream doesn't really matter for growth purposes). All of these things are important for growth and opportunities like merch, which some of the main vtuber sponsoring companies are run by or are affiliated directly with an indie vtuber.
Her strengths might have been meaningful in hololive or in the 2020 indie scene, but in 2025? None of them feel particularly unique or relevant with just how many new vtubers have started streaming in the last 5 years. Being consistent at streaming for 3 hours a day matters in hololive but for indies there are girls who will stream 9 hours a day casually. Being a bad singer in hololive can be cute and endearing but will people tune in to a mediocre singer indie? What exactly will she be doing to stand out in a much more competitive indie scene? Not swearing on stream and being 'clean' is nice for hololive but will it work for her in collabs outside?
Who are her friends going to be? And maybe more importantly, who are her enemies going to be? Indie drama gets way more intense than hololive drama, there are people who will lie about you to their friends to ruin your reputation which costs you collabs/event/merch oppurtunities, phony managers who just want your money, scam merch companies who never deliver, cliques and infighting, etc. Is Fauna ready to deal with all of that at once?
I'm more interested in how Fauna will be as an indie than I was with Ame because her style was already well adapted to indie vtubing. Well maybe Fauna is just going to soft retire with the money she saved up in hololive and stream once a week and drop some shorts, or maybe she's going to radically change her streaming approach as an indie, only time will tell.