- she's not a good streamer (yet) and it shows.
- her debut did hurt her yes, not as much as you think, but it did
- the liar's bar controversy is huge because it happened shortly after her debut AND it was a middle finger to her viewers,
>>95312856 is actually not wrong, remember we are talking about japs here and NO other holo has ever dropped a game because it was "boring", much less when playing with the fans.
- the jump king did nothing, most japs thought it was a stupid attempt to get pity/redemption points
- the ex-idol thing is actually a big reason why plenty of JP fans avoid her and vivi,
>>95317583 addresses this perfectly, all I can add is that for a lot of fans holomems are a "journey into success" and people like Riona and Vivi are already done with it and shouldn't be here, yes there's some ex-underground idols like Nene but comparing that to fucking AKB is beyond idiotic
- the recent stream with korosan didn't leave a good impression either, she came up as fake and manipulative, this according to most comments after the stream though so take it with a grain of salt
- flow gloss as a whole is kind of a mess and plenty of japs are tired with how pushed they are into holo content, hurts that none of them bring anything noteworthy or unique (yet)
Personally, I am with the japs on this one, big names should stay the fuck away from hololive, specially boring ones like her but she's already here so... Here's hoping she improves a lot during this year.
