>>97291030Honestly yeah. They skyrocketted costs by getting their own program on the main channel (which cancelled the one the OG9 had so they could keep Jump Uproar or whatever it was called going before that got cancelled), got their own 3D live while still joining the one the OG9 had, couldn't stop mentioning the hololive onee-san for mandated leeching while being forbidden by management to do 1 on 1 covers with the OG9, etc. The boys themselves are fine, but their debut fucked up the mood of the group badly
