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Does idol stuff and kayfabe even matter anymore?

Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 20:45:30 No.98065729 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>98066274 >>98071427 >>98072231 >>98077717 >>98081974 >>98088905 >>98096701 >>98099084 >>98100362 >>98100695

I mean look at Shiori drama and Kiara last stream, like does this shit even matter now? They're just regular streamers now, at least the EN ones.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 20:47:47 No.98065854 Report

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>best ENs
>kayfabe extremists

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 20:50:04 No.98066013 Report

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>>98065854
I don't think it's kayfabe in their case

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 20:52:42 No.98066168 Report

Quoted By: >>98066928

>desperately trying to include Kiara in the shiori shitshow
>equating idol stuff to kayfabe despite male collabs never being something against a code of idol ethics
I hate Twitter tourist

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 20:54:31 No.98066274 Report

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>>98065729
>They're just regular streamers now
>now

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 21:04:51 No.98066928 Report

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>>98066168
Kiara baiting everyone and you know it.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 22:09:11 No.98071427 Report

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>>98065729
Korone is still good.

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 22:20:29 No.98072231 Report

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>>98065729
It does matter and picrel is proof of that

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 23:31:01 No.98077717 Report

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>>98065729

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Anonymous Tue 25 Mar 2025 23:31:04 No.98077725 Report

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>>98066013
It's more like traditional method acting and role immersion for them.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 00:35:52 No.98081974 Report

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 02:36:44 No.98088905 Report

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>>98065729
EN was always like this because in the West vtubing is an extention of twitch streaming. JP vtubers have less problems playing a character since most of them came from niconico days of gimmick channels, voiceroids and no cam/no video broadcasts and borrow the second half of their mannerism from idols which are also basically characters. Basically, it's just a difference in culture and perception of what is expected of their streams.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 02:47:33 No.98089461 Report

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>>98088905
>niconico days of gimmick channels, voiceroids and no cam/no video broadcasts and borrow the second half of their mannerism from idols which are also basically characters.
I don't think this is really true, because two of the HoloJPs who are pretty good at keeping up keyfabe didn't have gimmick accounts on niconico, they were titty streamers. So I don't think it really has anything to do with differences in previous experience - it's clearly something else.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 04:39:49 No.98095146 Report

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>>98089461
Who?

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 05:16:03 No.98096701 Report

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>>98065729
EN VTubers are just watered down Twitch streamers, so I don't watch their trash. I only watch JP, even if I don't understand half the things they're saying. EN VTubers are too degenerate and Twitch-y for me.
>>98089461
It's the fact that Japanese audiences keep these idols in check by not letting them get away with degeneracy or insulting their viewers. Meanwhile, western viewers are a bunch of doormat simps who enjoy degeneracy and encouraged thotish, trashy behavior of streamers.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 05:29:53 No.98097231 Report

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>>98072231
Really?
How's that? I'm not implying Korone isn't good or among the best talents in Hololive, I'm asking how her kayfabe factors in at all.
She's supposed to be a dog girl that likes video games, these women play video games for a living...where's the kayfabe?

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 06:18:04 No.98099084 Report

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>>98065729
Yes it does. But some people can't seem to understand the difference between hanging out with someone and sleeping with them, or that a gay man is not likely to try to sleep with their make believe girlfriend.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 06:56:51 No.98100362 Report

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>>98065729
>EN ones

JP will always be the alpha and the omega. EN chubas are just pale imitations, with petty American highschool drama tacked on.Only twittards are wholly invested in the latter.

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Anonymous Wed 26 Mar 2025 07:07:25 No.98100695 Report

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>>98065729
Oh look, it's "how do I make all vtuber drama about Kiara" schizo.

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