>>7913657Yes, but i just wish i could discuss solar punk ideas with people that are more "right wing," at least in comparison with those i come across in these circles. Besides, from what I've seen of these people, they go far beyond a "hopeful future" and go all out utopian and scifi. This devolves things into gimmicky vertical farms in art, while in the real making people believe things like keeping things green while having a 8-10 billion population. It actually has made me scratch my head. I came because of an aesthetic, and wanted to stay because there were actual practical ways of achieving a balance between tech and nature, with a philosophical basis. Instead, we just have people who are attached to an aesthetic and nothing more, or at the very best they're clouded by fantasies of how to achieve it
