>>5478488why is that rubbish, would you prefer that he personally kill the woman he loved. or that he hold a grudge against his brother who did kill her, when that person would have only been defending themselves since surely she would be trying to kill him. it was destined to end as it did from the outset, he tried to warm her but she wouldn't listen. if mance had tried to negotiate from the beginning instead of sending a group to attack castle black from the rear, things would have gone differently, thats what got her killed.