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Hey /wsr/. In a pickle and need some help I want a new laptop (not a desktop) and I figured I might as get something powerful . I'd expect this laptop to hopefully last me ~3 years if not more. There's a Ryzen 7 5800H (8 core, 16 threads), RTX 3070 16GB RAM laptop on sale now available for $1180. It's cheap compared to other 3070 laptops here, but it's also more than I wanted to spend. I think an RTX 3060 would do fine for me, and I'm hoping that model goes on sale for around $950. However this would be with 8GB RAM (upgradeable for extra cost) and a Ryzen 5 5600H processor (6 cores, 12 threads) My question is, is it worth just paying the extra and getting the 3070 laptop, or do I hold out and hope for a sale on the 3060 laptop? Are the extra cores, threads and improved GPU worth the cost and more "futureproof"? The laptop is also available with an AMD RX 6600M, which is cheaper than both. Not sure if it's a good GPU. As for usage, it'll be a mix of productivity and gaming. I don't need everything max settings at all, but I want to run things like Blender, try 3D animation, do light video encoding, that sort of stuff. Maybe both the 3060 and 3070 are overkill? Thanks
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Oh and TL;DR just in case>Rryzen 7 5800H RTX 3070 16GB RAM laptop $1180 OR>Ryzen 5 5600H RTX 3060 8GB RAM Laptop $950 ?
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Usually that jump in specs would be more than $230 and you're gonna want to add more RAM to an 8GB model anyway so I'd personallt go for the 3070 version. Keep in mind its resale value will be better later, too. If you're not worried too much about specs then I recommend focusing on "the little things," like screen refresh rate, fingerprint reader or face unlock, size and weight, matte/glossy display, etc.
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>>1186091 Thanks for the response
>Usually that jump in specs would be more than $230 and you're gonna want to add more RAM to an 8GB model anyway I was thinking along these lines too. It's well worth the extra but at the same time I don't actually need the extra, which is what's giving me pause.
Resale value also isn't a major point for me, I generally don't end up selling my stuff. Looking out for the little things is good advice, in this case though I've already narrowed it down to a few models I'm looking out for so I know what's what between them
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Oh and also, just how much will I benefit from the extra cores and GPU power in general day to day usage?
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>>1185504 What brand? The thing that probably matters the most is the fan / heat dissipation on the laptop. For example, the same spec laptop from alienware and dell are going to behave pretty differently, since the more expensive model probably has dedicated GPU fans, and heatpipes. All those extra gigabytes of GPU ram and clock speed don't matter when the GPU and CPU have to downclock to avoid overheating. Lower heat means fewer bluescreens, and longer laptop life.
I would look for a teardown on youtube to see what the fins/fan/heatpipes look like, and then pick on stats
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>>1187367 >probably has dedicated GPU fans, and heatpipes. Find me a laptop with a GPU and no heatpipes.
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>>1187367 The brand is the same for both machines, same model too so all those factors should be similar. I suppose if a different brand goes on sale for cheaper I could look at that instead, but I've done my research in terms of cooling and TDP's so know some of the good from bad
I just can't really decide if the extra money is worth it
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>>1185504 >Laptop buying advice Never buy a laptop.
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>>1188774 But I'm going to
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Either one is fine, but 8GB isn't enough ram. If you go with the cheaper, you'll need to upgrade which will be ~$100. Also don't buy anything from Dell. The company I work for buys dell and they are the jankiest equipment ever. What about the screen? Don't get a 60Hz panel. I have 144Hz on my Lenovo legion and its buttery smooth. Highly recommend.
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>>1189216 Is a RAM upgrade really $100?
Funny you mention the Legion, they're the laptops I'm looking at. I know one of the panels is shit so I'm not looking at that one.
Quick question, i've heard some of the Legions have bad RAM installed. Do you know how to check if you have the good RAM or bad RAM?
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>>1189406 >Is a RAM upgrade really $100? It's not really an upgrade because you're just taking the 8GB out and putting it in a drawer.
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>>1189430 Couldn't I just buy an extra 8gb stick to have 16gb combined? I think there are 2 RAM slots
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>>1189698 No, because it will come with 2x4GB so you're not stuck on single-channel.
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>>1189756 I see, I might have read it comes with 1 single stick 8GB though
I've also read stuff about slow RAM and fast RAM, not entirely sure how it all works
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Any word on the boost that having extra cores gives? Is it more future proof or is 6 cores fine? Also, will I noticed the difference between a 3060/3070 if I'm using programs like Blender for 3d animation and such?