>>18670803youre not going to avoid the facts that
* virtually everyone uses contraceptives these days
* old people continue to have sex after their ovaries shut off
do you think men who dont divorce the wife after menopause and marry a younger woman are perverts? no, you dont, but the larger point is people get into using contraception for their entire lives by starting with it to get a free sample of what married life would be like, as in using sex for pairbonding, but they end up sticking with it because its easier day after day to not plan on having a kid, since having a kid is a planned event once you concede that youre using contraception in your relationship, and turning it into a planned thing instead of a natural result perversion. so effectively they make themselves sterile, and while intentionally going for a sterile partner is perverted, they can justify it to themselves as this person isnt actually sterile except on days that end in y. vasectomies and tube tying is not a trend its redditor and youtuber perversion, but contraceptive use is endemic and the perversion of children are planned is also endemic. you can say everyone who uses contraceptives with the same partner for more than a month is a faggot and be pretty close to right but also be calling a lot of of people faggots who are pretty normal