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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:42:51 No.6760105 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>6760202 >>6760721

Pic related is me (on the left) suffering a faith crisis and getting cuddled by my local rabbi

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:43:46 No.6760109 Report

Quoted By: >>6760120

Kill yourself kike lover

Fake-Kobe

Fake-Kobe ID:RxjeeCBH Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:43:46 No.6760110 Report

Quoted By: >>6760120

This is just depressing

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:47:07 No.6760120 Report

Quoted By: >>6760131 >>6760135

>>6760109
>>6760110
t. anti-semites

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:49:12 No.6760131 Report

Quoted By: >>6760134

>>6760120
im a jew u re*ard

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:49:45 No.6760134 Report

Quoted By: >>6760138

>>6760131
yeah whatever

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Fake-Kobe ID:RxjeeCBH Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:49:46 No.6760135 Report

Quoted By: >>6760148

>>6760120
No, just depressing, i have no one to tell my shit

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:50:27 No.6760138 Report

Quoted By: >>6760143 >>6760157

>>6760134
owned j*w lover

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:51:46 No.6760143 Report

Quoted By: >>6760156

>>6760138
>benin/togo
>cameroon/congo

JUST

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:52:24 No.6760148 Report

Quoted By: >>6760173

>>6760135
your what?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fqHsf9Sa Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:53:00 No.6760151 Report

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I believe in this and it's been tested by research
He who fucks nuns will later join the church

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:53:37 No.6760156 Report

Quoted By: >>6760166

>>6760143
umad bro? my bbc destroy ur wh*te small as sh*t p*nis

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:53:36 No.6760157 Report

Quoted By: >>6760158

>>6760138
>English-jew-nigger
Wot

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:54:06 No.6760158 Report

Quoted By: >>6760168

>>6760157
>not being more mixed than america as a whole

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:54:31 No.6760166 Report

Quoted By: >>6760177

>>6760156
i'm not a dirty piggu either bro *high fives*

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:54:44 No.6760168 Report

Quoted By: >>6760177

>>6760158
Actually I am 50-50% med-nord

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:54:52 No.6760171 Report

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pic related is me meditating before sabbath

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Fake-Kobe ID:RxjeeCBH Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:55:14 No.6760173 Report

Quoted By: >>6760178

>>6760148
You talked about suffering a faith crisis, i will never get cuddled when i'm sad and shit u fucking faggot, stop posting this shit because you know this is fucking depressing, fucking hell i want to kill myself

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:56:04 No.6760177 Report

Quoted By: >>6760182

>>6760166
haha yes me too
>>6760168
fuck off n*rd

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:56:05 No.6760178 Report

Quoted By: >>6760187

>>6760173
you just need to convert to judaism and find a local rabbi

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:56:39 No.6760182 Report

Quoted By: >>6760189

>>6760177
Rude jewish negroid!

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Fake-Kobe ID:RxjeeCBH Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:57:40 No.6760187 Report

Quoted By: >>6760216

>>6760178
I'm agnostic, and i'm not talking about religion, i'm talking about getting cuddled and expressing affection

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:57:56 No.6760189 Report

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>>6760182
you leave him alone

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 19:59:24 No.6760202 Report

Quoted By: >>6760212 >>6760216

>>6760105
i'M THE uncut american jew that is worse than a goyim according to most jews because I refuse to get cut

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:01:42 No.6760212 Report

Quoted By: >>6760270

>>6760202
Cmon I bet there would be that much to cut
Just lil snip on smol bepise

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:02:40 No.6760216 Report

Quoted By: >>6760280

>>6760202
you didn't what? ok, we aren't going to talk ever again
>>6760187
you aren't alone on that bro

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:13:08 No.6760270 Report

Quoted By: >>6760284

>>6760212
its like you only talk about dicks

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:15:37 No.6760280 Report

Quoted By: >>6760289

>>6760216
ok f*ck you rude id*ot

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:15:55 No.6760284 Report

Quoted By: >>6760289

>>6760270
Its like you only talk about jews and cry

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:17:52 No.6760289 Report

Quoted By: >>6760298 >>6760299

>>6760280
cut your foreskine and we'll talk again
>>6760284
that's the thread description, i tend to talk about everything

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:19:27 No.6760298 Report

Quoted By: >>6760321

>>6760289
I dont only talk about dicks rude neet

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:19:39 No.6760299 Report

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>>6760289
f*ck no foreskin>no foreskin

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:27:32 No.6760321 Report

Quoted By: >>6760369

>>6760298
prove it

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:34:20 No.6760365 Report

Quoted By:

>removes UK from filter
>removes Italy from filter
> 27 out of 34 filtered threads are visible again

mental illness

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:34:37 No.6760369 Report

Quoted By: >>6760372 >>6760381

>>6760321
Are you goint to watch the barca madrid?

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Anonymous ID:S1UKj2yM Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:35:40 No.6760372 Report

Quoted By:

>>6760369
no

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:37:45 No.6760381 Report

Quoted By: >>6760448 >>6760466

>>6760369
do you think this is the face of someone who likes watching football?

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:47:47 No.6760428 Report

Quoted By: >>6760448

ugh

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:50:44 No.6760448 Report

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>>6760381
>>6760428
mfw football

boring.

Judaism is much better desu.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:53:38 No.6760466 Report

Quoted By: >>6760472 >>6760506

>>6760381
Its a really important piece of history tho
Maybe you dont watch football but a barca madrid is important for many social reasons

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 20:55:02 No.6760472 Report

Quoted By: >>6760496

>>6760466
hm...? none of my friends watch football so not a problem

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:00:05 No.6760496 Report

Quoted By: >>6760506 >>6760511

>>6760472
Are all your friends neets as well?

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:01:17 No.6760506 Report

Quoted By: >>6760536

>>6760496
>>6760466dubs

Tell me how this is anything other than a distraction from the world for dumb people and an advertisers dream come true?

How is this relevant in an historical sense?

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:02:24 No.6760511 Report

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>>6760496
>you don't watch football therefore you're a neet

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:06:10 No.6760536 Report

Quoted By: >>6760548 >>6760575

>>6760506
It shows the main demographic and cultural dynamics in spain (madrid-barcelona) axis
And its a big part of spanish history, a time for people to join together

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:07:38 No.6760548 Report

Quoted By: >>6760566

>>6760536
>its a big part of spanish history

it doesn't work that way

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:09:47 No.6760566 Report

Quoted By: >>6760582

>>6760548
Homo

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:10:57 No.6760575 Report

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>>6760536
Saying it is a big part of history is not explaining why it is so if it actually is.

The main demographic needs to stop obsessing with men that kick a ball around and get paid more then them and start educating themselves more instead.

It is not the traditional Spanish culture, but instead a bastardized one imposed by foreign Nations.

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:12:06 No.6760582 Report

Quoted By: >>6760617

>>6760566
Fully Rarted.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:17:30 No.6760617 Report

Quoted By: >>6760629 >>6760631

>>6760582
Madrid-Barca matches have been famous since the 1890's
Its really a part of spanish culture and politics, like 6 times the people who watch the superbowl watch it

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:18:49 No.6760629 Report

Quoted By: >>6760637

>>6760617
THAT'S NOT TRUE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:19:17 No.6760631 Report

Quoted By: >>6760637

>>6760617
Both are idiotic wastes of time. If that is what the masses of the world are falling to then we must cull them.

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:20:34 No.6760637 Report

Quoted By: >>6760651 >>6760661

>>6760629
Cmon lad its honestly pretty important
>>6760631
Wow edgy

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:22:51 No.6760651 Report

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>>6760637
no

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:23:24 No.6760661 Report

Quoted By: >>6760672

>>6760637
How is it important? It consists of men kicking a ball while idiots cheer mindlessly and advertisers make a killing off of their excitement.

How is that important? It has no purpose beyond Hype.

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:24:51 No.6760672 Report

Quoted By: >>6760720

>>6760661
*tips your fedora*

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:30:48 No.6760720 Report

Quoted By: >>6760740

>>6760672
[Deleted] Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU (ID: CQwZGbEX)

>*tips your fedora*

You are using that meme wrong.

Disprove what I said, let's see your defense.

I love playing sports, but watching them and devoting your life to watching them is FAIL beyond all.

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:30:50 No.6760721 Report

Quoted By: >>6760740

>>6760105
Pic related is me (on the left) flying away from my life problems along with /bant/ (the smol kot)

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:33:18 No.6760740 Report

Quoted By: >>6760753 >>6760792

>>6760720
*tips again*
>>6760721
why would you fly away from your problems instead of fighting them

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:35:11 No.6760753 Report

Quoted By: >>6760769

>>6760740
In other words you have nothing. Pathetic.

*pulls off your fedora and shoves it down your pants*

*spits*

Nigger.

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:37:27 No.6760769 Report

Quoted By: >>6760782

>>6760753
a-aaaaah!

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Anonymous ID:VgodKa+s Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:39:02 No.6760778 Report

Quoted By: >>6760792 >>6760802 >>6760814

bully the suebi?

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:39:39 No.6760782 Report

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>>6760769
Dumb nigger baby!

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Anonymous ID:VgodKa+s Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:39:40 No.6760783 Report

Quoted By: >>6760792 >>6760802

i am god

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:41:15 No.6760792 Report

Quoted By: >>6760814 >>6760821

>>6760740
some things I'm not really able to change yet.
escapism makes me feel good ok?
>>6760778
pic related is suebi right now
>>6760783
gween tea

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:42:20 No.6760802 Report

Quoted By: >>6760821

>>6760778
>>6760783
You are not God.

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:43:17 No.6760814 Report

Quoted By: >>6760830 >>6760864

>>6760792
his hands are probably 10 times bigger than that one
>>6760778
its what he does when he has no arguments

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Anonymous ID:VgodKa+s Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:44:36 No.6760821 Report

Quoted By: >>6760843 >>6760864

>>6760792
aaaaa don't do it
i command you, mere mortal

>>6760802
mhm? what does my id say?

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:45:39 No.6760830 Report

Quoted By: >>6760839

>>6760814
You are the one that couldn't answer and resorted to insults.

It was an insult.

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:46:35 No.6760839 Report

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>>6760830
*mwah*

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:47:01 No.6760843 Report

Quoted By: >>6760855 >>6760882

>>6760821
A bunch of nonsense.

(I see it, just don't like others saying their god)

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:48:09 No.6760855 Report

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>>6760843
they're*

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:48:59 No.6760864 Report

Quoted By: >>6760878 >>6760882 >>6760916

>>6760821
Okay, karen god
>prays to my altar of green tea
>>6760814
you know what they say about people with big hands

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:51:11 No.6760878 Report

Quoted By: >>6760914

>>6760864
Just over 18cm, I'm happy though.

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Anonymous ID:TwUY4rWK Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:51:59 No.6760882 Report

Quoted By: >>6760899 >>6760914 >>6760916

>>6760843
i am the pagan god of karens until my id changes and then i die or something

>>6760864
a religion based around karenposting and green tea isn't a bad idea

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Anonymous ID:TwUY4rWK Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:52:35 No.6760890 Report

Quoted By: >>6760899 >>6760914

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°Δ°•Δ•°Δ° !!D2lVVvH1Kbw ID:op0STb1u Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:53:48 No.6760899 Report

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>>6760882
>>6760890
Are you using a dynamic IP or something?

Screenshots are forever bby!

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Anonymous ID:fX5py2OC Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:54:41 No.6760908 Report

Quoted By: >>6760916

>says i talk about dicks all the time
>proceeds to talk about dicks 30 minutes later

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:55:48 No.6760914 Report

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>>6760878
please don't crush me
>>6760882
Are burgs ok too??
>>6760890
you're now TwU

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:56:03 No.6760916 Report

Quoted By: >>6760985

>>6760864
are you going to start talking about dicks too
>>6760882
sorry yahveh doesn't get along with pagans
>>6760908
are you talking about me? i didnt

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Anonymous ID:zU4fc9Ah Fri 26 Oct 2018 21:59:48 No.6760955 Report

Quoted By: >>6760983

can I com with 6u nectie rabbi 3way hug?

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Anonymous ID:TwUY4rWK Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:00:14 No.6760962 Report

Quoted By: >>6760985

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:02:07 No.6760983 Report

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>>6760955
sorry don't touch me

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:02:15 No.6760985 Report

Quoted By: >>6761014 >>6761034

>>6760916
Why on Karen's earth would you think that?
>>6760962
I think that's a cool ID color fren

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:04:56 No.6761014 Report

Quoted By: >>6761070

>>6760985
YAHVEH DOESN'T GET ALONG WITH PAGANS

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Anonymous ID:TwUY4rWK Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:06:26 No.6761034 Report

Quoted By: >>6761070

>>6760985
thank you friend
theres always a chance i get a good id next time

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:10:17 No.6761070 Report

Quoted By: >>6761115

>>6761014
that seems quite unwarranted and rood
>>6761034
I believe in the dream

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:22:23 No.6761115 Report

Quoted By: >>6761150

>>6761070
how was your day?

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:31:29 No.6761150 Report

Quoted By: >>6761210

>>6761115
It's alright I guess. I woke up late and haven't done anything really but talk with a friend
how's yours?

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Anonymous ID:/SpJUecA Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:32:34 No.6761156 Report

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Le shitcord thread

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:40:37 No.6761210 Report

Quoted By: >>6761260

>>6761150
reading the bible, working out and shitposting. the basic neet triforce. i don't feel proud tho

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Anonymous ID:FlS/dZO6 Fri 26 Oct 2018 22:49:12 No.6761260 Report

Quoted By: >>6761401

>>6761210
Pride is a weird thing. My advice is to try not to get caught in too much of a routine, because even if it's good you may grow tired of things eventually
Though that's easier said than done I guess

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Real Real Real Suebi !fn7qRBi5hU ID:CQwZGbEX Fri 26 Oct 2018 23:17:37 No.6761401 Report

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>>6761260
yeah i got tired of my old routine a few months ago and i've been trying to change things since then, somehow i ended up stucked in another routine

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