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Hand signals?

Anonymous Fri 06 Oct 2023 16:25:17 No.1954083 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1957054 >>1961777 >>1962081 >>1964650 >>1965813 >>1966062 >>1979115

Do u guys use proper hand signals or just point to where ur going? I feel like the avg cagie might not see them enough to recognize them

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 00:43:26 No.1957053 Report

Quoted By: >>1957058 >>1973523 >>1977736

I use them when I can but what are you supposed to do on roundabouts? I'm not able to turn with one hand and indicate with the other at the same time, it becomes a big problem if you're turning right (I live in a left-hand side of the road driving country) and there's a car coming head on at you. Usually I'll just let them go through but it's obviously an issue if there's also a car behind you on the roundabout because they don't expect someone to give way when you're on a roundabout

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 00:45:04 No.1957054 Report

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>>1954083
Doesn't 2 mean "Stop"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:00:28 No.1957058 Report

Quoted By: >>1957059 >>1959120 >>1973523

>>1957053
In roundabouts just bike in the middle of the lane you're supposed to be in.
Isn't the entire design of roundabouts to ensure the only potential traffic conflict is as you enter the roundabout? Once you're in the roundabout, all you need to worry about is "don't rear-end the person in front of you."
As long as you are in the middle of the lane and provide no space for someone to cut around you, all they can do is wait for you to make your way through and exit.
Then again, we don't have any roundabouts that are too crazy here. At most two lanes, with the rightmost lane always forced to exit at the next exit and the leftmost lane able to make any turn unobstructed (because the rightmost is forced to exit).

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:10:15 No.1957059 Report

Quoted By: >>1957060 >>1957126 >>1973523

>>1957058
It's a bit hard to explain if you aren't used to roundabouts but the issue is if you're not indicating when you enter a roundabout then people will assume you're going straight through it, and so if someone is coming from the opposite direction they'll enter it even when you're in there because they know you aren't going to cross their path.
But if you are in fact going to take the third exit/ turn left (in a right hand side drive country, like this diagram) then you need to indicate left, so purple would be doing this and blue would know not to enter the roundabout if purple is already on it. But if purple wasn't indicating and was on the roundabout blue would enter thinking that purple is going to go straight through and they won't cross paths, do you follow?
There's lots of small single lane roundabouts where I live where people drive according to this logic

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:20:58 No.1957060 Report

Quoted By: >>1957061 >>1957126

>>1957059
If you're in Australia you just have to be careful cycling on roundabouts because it genuinely doesn't matter what vehicle you're on or in every cunt here is absolute dogshit at using roundabouts.

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:26:09 No.1957061 Report

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>>1957060
Yeah people seem to have very different takes on how roundabouts work, it differs a lot by state as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:32:29 No.1957062 Report

Quoted By: >>1959810

>>1954138
No one ever lost control hand signalling

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Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 01:58:09 No.1957064 Report

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I salute the fuhrer when I make a left turn. I don't think cagers understand hand signals anymore and just assume I'm being weird because they usually just cut me off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 24 Oct 2023 11:18:08 No.1957126 Report

Quoted By: >>1958104 >>1959119

>>1957059
Then your drivers are retarded (as confirmed >>1957060)
Here, no one enters a roundabout until they are sure they aren't going to interfere with other traffic.
And no one signals while entering a roundabout, at most only when they are exiting. Because there's only one place you can go from the entrance of a roundabout, and that's into the roundabout.
I just looked it up to double check, and the official driver's manual for my jurisdiction omits any mention of "signal" while approaching a roundabout, and then explicitly says "signal" when exiting a roundabout.
But also, how fast are you traveling that getting cut-off by a driver would be a potential collision? Like, yeah, it's a little annoying having to brake, but if this is a heart-stopping occurrence that keeps happening, maybe the answer is to slow down a bit more if you see a car looking menacing?

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Anonymous Mon 30 Oct 2023 08:51:39 No.1958104 Report

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>>1957126
> and the official driver's manual for my jurisdiction omits any mention of "signal" while approaching a roundabout, and then explicitly says "signal" when exiting a roundabout
I'm really surprised by that, I thought this was a universal rule. What country do you live in? It sounds completely different to here, maybe because we have a lot of small suburban roundabouts and doing your method would lead to a huge backlog at every one
>And no one signals while entering a roundabout
You absolutely have to do that here, see:
https://youtu.be/sCXtcXD17qU?si=En-WCt7xCHP_WSCY
>Here, no one enters a roundabout until they are sure they aren't going to interfere with other traffic.
Well yeah the point is if you see someone indicating in a way where they won't cross your path than you can enter the roundabout
>But also, how fast are you traveling that getting cut-off by a driver would be a potential collision? Like, yeah, it's a little annoying having to brake, but if this is a heart-stopping occurrence that keeps happening, maybe the answer is to slow down a bit more if you see a car looking menacing?
It's the car behind me I'd be worried about, they just wouldn't anticipate a person in front of them on a roundabout giving way to someone about to enter a roundabout, people can act very retarded on roundabouts here and are desperate to rush through so there's a good chance they're tailgating

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 20:30:11 No.1959119 Report

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>>1957126
If it's an actual thought that goes through your brain to signal or to not signal, you're a fucking mouth breathing retard. Doesn't matter where or when, if you're turning, signal, this should be second nature to you. You should NOT even remember signaling, that's how ingrained it should be in an adult driver.

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Anonymous Sat 04 Nov 2023 20:31:14 No.1959120 Report

Quoted By: >>1973523

>>1957058
>Once you're in the roundabout, all you need to worry about is "don't rear-end the person in front of you."
What if you yeild to traffic entering the circle as many circles are designed?

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Anonymous Wed 08 Nov 2023 06:19:54 No.1959810 Report

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>>1957062
I did

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Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 00:01:12 No.1961777 Report

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>>1954083
Hell no

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 03:37:45 No.1961924 Report

Quoted By: >>1962084

>>1954087
yep fuck people/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 12:55:15 No.1962081 Report

Quoted By: >>1964651 >>1964653

>>1954083
You should not be allowed in the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 12:56:19 No.1962082 Report

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>>1954205
Roads are for cars and larger vehicles, not bikes. Stick to streets and bike paths

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 18 Nov 2023 12:57:45 No.1962084 Report

Quoted By: >>1964422

>>1954087
>>1961924
Still salty about that love tap jamal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 30 Nov 2023 20:00:13 No.1964422 Report

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>>1962084
Test,,,

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Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 10:58:11 No.1964650 Report

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>>1954083
what sucks is that i know these motherfuckers read the highway code to get their licenses and therefore have seen a diagram like this but i know in my heart that if i do anything other than just point they wont know what it means
its ok though because these hand signals are designed for motorcycles where the right hand needs to stay on the throttle and brake
not rly a problem on a bicycle
so yeah i just stick my arm out and point

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Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 10:59:12 No.1964651 Report

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>>1962081
who cagies?
yeah i agree they fuck up everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 11:01:57 No.1964652 Report

Quoted By: >>1966461

>>1954131
nobodies gonna see that
seriously from any distance at all its not gonna be clear whats left and whats right
itl just look like an orange flashing in the centre
i know this because i have this problem with alot of sporty motorcycles this will be even worse
if your gonna get indicators they better be on your bar ends and you should get a mirror too

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 01 Dec 2023 11:07:12 No.1964653 Report

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>>1954177
>>1954239
>>1962081
what?
>>1954643
he knows something we dont...

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2023 05:16:00 No.1965804 Report

Quoted By: >>1970321 >>1981057

I have found that most drivers don't understand handsignals, so I just point as they seem to understand that better.

I wish they understood stopping/slowing down hand signal, but they don't.
So I just angle the pads on my front brake so it makes a loud noise when I brake hard.
Oddly enough that seems to work.

Though if I am honist because I bike so defensively it's rare I have to signal at all. I just do it when there is a car behind me. Which is rare where I ride.
Or if I am trying to turn into somewhere that crosses car traffic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 06 Dec 2023 07:35:15 No.1965813 Report

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>>1954083
If I'm on a street where cars drive, I am a vehicle in the eyes of the law. Therefore, I use hand signals appropriately (if there's other people around). On MTB trails, when fucking around on a bike trail, or without a shitload of traffic? Nah.

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Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2023 21:11:02 No.1966062 Report

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>>1954083
Nope. I can do it but one of these days a rock or something will get me killed if I'm focused on that instead of the road.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 07 Dec 2023 23:14:49 No.1966105 Report

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>>1954138

How retarded do you have to be to lose balance and collapse just using a hand signal?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2023 20:00:40 No.1966461 Report

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>>1964652
at distance it wouldn't be needed in the first place.
this is for the city mainly; cars will be right behind you and it'll be clearly distinguishable.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Dec 2023 22:27:42 No.1968223 Report

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>>1954185
forget the shitty pic, under naked eye you can clearly see which side is blinking far enough for city traffic; also, orange light instantly tells yoyr intention, and since you'll naturally be approaching the side of your lane you intend to take, it won't take a rocket scientist to figure it out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 30 Dec 2023 17:04:27 No.1970321 Report

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>>1965804
yeah a lot of the hand signal stuff is really just fred virtue signaling to show you're a good group rider because you did the correct finger waggle

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 09 Jan 2024 19:55:13 No.1972585 Report

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 21:41:05 No.1973523 Report

Quoted By: >>1973526

>>1957053
what kind of country doesn't have priority for traffic inside the roundabout? i know France didn't, which, expectedly, turned places like Paris' Place de l'Étoile an worse nightmare than it is by nature, but they've since fixed that, iirc.
>>1957058
you're (now; it changed) supposed to yield right on your lane, here, but you have to keep at least 1.5 meters distance from them (and animal traction).
>>1957059
that's a non-issue since it's from opposite sides. priority applies to the traffic approaching your entry point coming from the roundabout, nothing else; once you're in the roundabout, general rules apply.
in your example everyone can enter the roundabout at the same time; in picrel, yellow has the priority over red and, at most, also over blue, depending on distance, speed and exit point.
>>1959120
no such thing here; priority is always for traffic inside roundabout (general rule being priority for approach from the right).

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 22:25:31 No.1973526 Report

Quoted By: >>1973527

>>1973523
>what kind of country doesn't have priority for traffic inside the roundabout? i know France didn't, which, expectedly, turned places like Paris' Place de l'Étoile an worse nightmare than it is by nature, but they've since fixed that, iirc.

In fact in France the traffic inside a roundabout have priority except for Place de l'étoile where the priority is for the guy coming from the right wich leading to a massive mess especialy if you're not used to this place/roundabout, i don't know why it's like that maybe it's historical and they don't want to change it..?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 22:27:52 No.1973527 Report

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>>1973526
i had the impression they had changed it there.

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Anonymous Wed 17 Jan 2024 19:58:30 No.1974181 Report

Quoted By: >>1976867

this is the only hand signal i use with motorists

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 30 Jan 2024 13:09:07 No.1976867 Report

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>>1974181
waste of energy and not aero

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2024 01:16:35 No.1977464 Report

Quoted By: >>1979121

anyone else feel unstable when only holding the right hand on the bar on a bike?
I can hang on with the left hand by itself perfectly fine, idk why I have this kind of hand preference when I'm right handed for most everything else

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2024 06:37:45 No.1977535 Report

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I feel like a clever little shit when I'm wearing these gloves and just turning my hand back and forth to show palm and top alternatingly to my rear, like a blinking turn signal, showing yellow then black, yellow, then black
I wonder if anyone ever notices it more than a regular hand signal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 03 Feb 2024 10:49:15 No.1977736 Report

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>>1957053
Indicate before entering the roundabout (if that's customary in your country), and right before you exit the roundabout (after passing the last exit you are not taking).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Feb 2024 03:44:28 No.1979115 Report

Quoted By: >>1979121

>>1954083
Hand Signals are useless because drivers don't know what they mean.

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BaconRider !yuA7eZE8l2 Sun 11 Feb 2024 04:50:02 No.1979121 Report

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>>1977464
>this kind of hand preference
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,,,horse reins heldin left hand to lasooo,shot,drink with righthand.,
,now,,,,TEXT!
>>1979115
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,,personaly,love,,,,,every one.
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Anonymous Sun 11 Feb 2024 05:04:20 No.1979122 Report

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I let them go unless they wave me by. I don't want to lose face to face in a match vs a car.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Feb 2024 11:51:48 No.1981057 Report

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>>1965804
I once had a guy in a ford expedition yell at me for not signaling a lane change (there was a cage blocking the right lane and I was going at roughly the same speed as the other vehicles but apparently cageoids lose their ability to infer the likely maneuvers of vehicles around them when those vehicles weigh less than 7,500 pounds)

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Anonymous Mon 04 Mar 2024 14:04:42 No.1983365 Report

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 19:08:40 No.1985570 Report

Quoted By: >>1985571 >>1985620 >>1987349

>>1954131
is there a more visible version of this?
>>1954185
I've almost lost balance the few times I tried to signal right. depending on the situation, I pick the following options:

1. if I'm turning right, I'll go in the middle or as far to the right of the lane as possible and look over my right shoulder a couple of times so the driver behind me gets the idea. I've also started stretching my right leg out to make it more obvious

2. if I'm taking the right exit at a mini roundabout, I'll either do the same as above or stop and extend my right arm

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 19:17:14 No.1985571 Report

Quoted By: >>1985603

>>1985570
Best bet would be to weld a second handlebar onto the back of your bike and replace the grips with light sets.

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 21:45:25 No.1985603 Report

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>>1985571
what about these lumo lights?
>https://uk.ridelumos.com/products/lumos-firefly

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 22:43:10 No.1985620 Report

Quoted By: >>1987349

>>1985570
yes, there's ones that are detachable.

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 01:13:58 No.1985644 Report

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Yes I always Heil Hitler using the correct arm to indicate my turns.

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Anonymous Mon 25 Mar 2024 22:21:09 No.1987349 Report

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>>1985570
>>1985620
just got pic rel for 7,61 €, on AliExpress (3 for 4.49 $), but don't think they're still available for that price (maybe they'll be again later)

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