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Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 15:39:10 No.1973034 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>1973036 >>1973044 >>1973051 >>1973057 >>1973071 >>1973335 >>1973524 >>1974011 >>1974855

I've been spamming this board with questions
might as well make a thread and get it over with
please help me /n/
I don't have anybody else to resolve this

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 15:49:06 No.1973035 Report

Quoted By: >>1973042

Ramblers are good tires for your use, keep em.

If you want to be faster the most impactful change would be the wheels, so get lighter wheels like you mentioned.

Clipless pedals and shoes are pretty fun, get SPDs for your use, road shoes are awkward to do anything but pedal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 15:49:34 No.1973036 Report

Quoted By: >>1973037

>>1973034
>the season
First advice: fix yourself, there is no such thing as "the season" except for fatties and MTB people (but I repeat myself)
>but I hate cagies waah waah
See above
>mtb tires
Good, the more unnecessary effort the stronger you will get. Same goes for those wheels
>gear I'm thinking about
The tire question is completely bizarre frankly, apples and oranges, actually more like apples and tennis balls, they're not even close
The shoes matter more than the pedals, by which I mean a stiff carbon sole will do you more good than any hairsplitting difference between "MTB pedals" and "road pedals"
Given your apparent riding conditions, maximizing your rubber and contact patch will probably matter more than aero, that said DT swiss is mega ick, enjoy your surprise no engagement when the nu-ratchet fails on you because the patent expired and they changed it at the orders of bean counters
Yes you should shave your legs, brush your teeth, and wash your gooch with soap every day, any other questions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 15:59:01 No.1973037 Report

Quoted By: >>1973040

>>1973036
>there's no such thing as the season
I'm not really into riding when it's -15C outside. It's much less enjoyable than in normal weather and you can do much smaller volume. I compensate with zwift tough.
>apples and tennis balls
I just want to know which tire would be the best for my use. Is it that retarded?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:10:47 No.1973040 Report

Quoted By: >>1973042 >>1973484

>>1973037
>riding when it's -15C outside
Sorry I thought you said europe, is yakutsk in europe now or are you just being a drama queen and acting like 0C is actually -15C? Because I'm looking at the temperatures across europe right now and I'm not seeing how you could be experiencing -15C today, or as an average daily high, unless you live on top of a mountain or something
>I just want to know which tire would be the best for my use. Is it that retarded?
It's just a weirdly specific contrast that makes me think you've been spending too much time reading tire comparison graphs and not enough time riding. The strada biancas should be fine if speed is your interest though I'm pretty sure those aren't vulcanized and those can have drawbacks depending on the rim and your personal preferences

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:18:13 No.1973042 Report

Quoted By: >>1973043

>>1973040
this weekend
the dashed line is the real feel
>>1973035
thanks Ill look for mtb shoes then

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:26:10 No.1973043 Report

Quoted By: >>1973047

>>1973042
Your average daily high during the coldest part of the year is around 0C, that means half the time it's above 0, what's preventing you from just riding somewhat less during 1-2 months out of the year?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:27:47 No.1973044 Report

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>>1973034
Judging by your weight to height squared (overweight) you're not a great cyclist yet. At that level, getting a nice wheelset is a joke. Focus on getting comfortable on the bike. Otherwise you can't put in the hours you think you can. Good shoes, good bibs, a nice saddle, those are the things that matter. When it comes to the tires, whatever keeps you doing the hours. Would you keep on looking forward to forest paths if some corners were a bit scary? If yes, get the lowest rolling resistance you can while not losing speed. If no, get ones that you can count on 100%. Also, get a second bottle cage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:35:41 No.1973047 Report

Quoted By: >>1973065

>>1973043
I do ride in the winter. I do ride somewhat less than during the other seasons.
That's not your statement though.
What you've tried to convince me is that there's essentially no difference. As you've put it "there's no such thing as season".
Now you're trying to soften up that statement because you've understood that it's undefendable.
Do we have to continue this argument? Maybe there's something more useful you could educate me about since you're already here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:48:59 No.1973049 Report

Quoted By: >>1973050

Work on your own fitness instead of becoming an equipment fred. If you have a distance goal, work up to it with regular rides that are at least a large portion as long. If you have a time goal for a set distance, work towards it. Be regular about it. No amount of jumping between expensive gear will yield even remotely as large results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 16:54:22 No.1973050 Report

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>>1973049
can't I do both?
having nice gear gives motivation

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 17:08:24 No.1973051 Report

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>>1973034
>Should I shave my legs?
You need to shave your entire body and most importantly oil up so you can slip right through the air.

BaconRider !yuA7eZE8l2

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BaconRider !yuA7eZE8l2 Thu 11 Jan 2024 17:23:48 No.1973057 Report

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>>1973034
ridewith,,,me., youll feel faster.,
,,shaving off you windfairings?,NO! they hold the air basedou slipthru the wind!,
,,,,,dolphins dont shave.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 18:40:11 No.1973065 Report

Quoted By: >>1973078 >>1973316

>>1973047
I'm not softening anything up. When people talk about "riding season" it implies they're not doing any kind of riding when it's less than mild short sleeve jersey weather, they'll talk about "dusting off the bike" in the spring and "taking the bike to the shop for spring tuneup".

It's a given that there are going to be weather events that will affect riding patterns, just like how the change in sunlight will affect your riding patterns. So if you're just saying "my riding can be affected by conditions outside my control" then congrats, you're the same as anyone else who rides all year round, and there's no "the season", there's just different clothing and accessories.

If you're a "the season" kind of person, then you don't have winter gear, you don't have lights, you don't have eyewear for low lighting or overshoes or thermal bib tights. To you, "bike apparel" means bib shorts, short sleeve jersey, possibly fingerless gloves, and dark sunglasses. Is that you? Then my complaint applies. Is it not you? Then you don't need to get so defensive. You were asking for advice, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 19:06:34 No.1973071 Report

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>>1973034
shaving your legs is 5watts saved

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 19:50:39 No.1973078 Report

Quoted By: >>1973079 >>1973204

>>1973065
>Is that you? Then my complaint applies.
I'll just say it doesn't. Let's not drag this any further.
>You were asking for advice, right?
Yes!
I started "cycling" pretty much in August. Until then I've been using bikes only for commuting and maybe some weekend chilly rides.
Currently, I'm chasing numbers and I enjoy it. I like it when the number goes up. I don't see anything wrong with it for now. I know it won't stay like this forever. I put in the work and I'm willing to put even more in the future.
I want to go fast. I want to see progress and PRs on strava. I do not have gear besides some castelli bibs, decent-ish bike, thermal leggins, lights, pulsemeter and a helmet.

Knowing this, what purchases would you advise to make my monkey brain go happy when number goes up.
I can spend up to $1000 before the "season" (in the meaning of serious riding during every weekend) starts.
t. noob

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 11 Jan 2024 19:58:50 No.1973079 Report

Quoted By: >>1973212

>>1973078
Most of my PR gainz (after plateauing) have happened because I did something that improves my confidence on fast descents and corners, not stuff that makes me go faster in a straight line.

If you haven't plateaued yet, then I'd work towards that. Little to no PRs in 2 months? Then you're plateaued. Once you've plateaued you'll probably have a sense of what's holding you back.

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 02:23:02 No.1973139 Report

Quoted By: >>1973198 >>1973204 >>1973205 >>1973372 >>1973378 >>1973605

update:
bought picrel
hope to gain some speeeed

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 12:46:35 No.1973198 Report

Quoted By: >>1973203

>>1973139
yuck. what's wrong with m540s?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:03:42 No.1973203 Report

Quoted By: >>1973208

>>1973198
I wanted to have an option of using them like flats with normal shoes in case I'd need to commute

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:05:57 No.1973204 Report

Quoted By: >>1973212

>>1973139
I have used the xtr pedals with the wide platform. Pretty solid. My shimano shoes fit me okay but I have average to narrow feet. Wide feet bros may have to size up.

Maybe wear long sleeves or tights/long pants when you are getting used to clipless, since you will fall by forgetting to clip out.
>>1973078
Fitness will be the deciding factor to how fast you go. After that it's technique(more important in group rides or offroad), then bike/equipment. However it is nice to feel an instant speed increase ditching shit tires, being more comfortable, or nice wheels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:24:59 No.1973205 Report

Quoted By: >>1973207

>>1973139
Yeah, that's good. Now get a bottle cage.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:31:17 No.1973207 Report

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>>1973205
>some fag on youtube recommended these
pulling the trigger

ok, next step
Schwalbe G-One RS 35mm or Strada Biancas HLTR 36mm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:32:57 No.1973208 Report

Quoted By: >>1973212

>>1973203
terrible mistake. everyone who buys those things ends up hating clipless because those barges interfere with usage. either get clipless or don't. there's no shame in platform pedals if you're too much of a pussy to learn how clipless works

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 12 Jan 2024 13:41:28 No.1973212 Report

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>>1973204
>Fitness will be the deciding factor to how fast you go.
I'm working on it.
>However it is nice to feel an instant speed increase
Yes!

>>1973208
>everyone who buys those things ends up hating clipless because those barges interfere with usage
I was hoping they wouldn't. I guess we'll see. I can always return/sell them and get normal spds.

>>1973079
After I've switched to a decent bike every ride was filled with PRs. That felt nice.

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Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 00:44:32 No.1973316 Report

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>>1973065
Time trial season starts in April

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 02:59:11 No.1973335 Report

Quoted By: >>1973368 >>1973373

>>1973034
that's a very nice bike for eastern europe, do you have safe indoor storage? i'd like to own a decent gravel bike like that but locking outside with both theft risk and rain ruining my derailleur stresses me out.
my advice would be getting fenders or at least an "ass saver" rear mudguard, especially if you want to do long tours or ride frequently instead of being a fair weather pussy.
also i would not recommend the clipless pedals personally, for me the slight speed benefit is worth less than not having to change into special dorky shoes and lycra gimp suit just to go for a casual ride.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 09:59:29 No.1973368 Report

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>>1973335
Your shoes are connected to your clothes? That’s wild

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 11:03:35 No.1973372 Report

Quoted By: >>1973392

>>1973139
Good choice, i run the same pedals on my enduro bike and similar shoes on my gravel, road, fixed gear bike. They run small tho, maybe get one size larger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 11:07:25 No.1973373 Report

Quoted By: >>1973392

>>1973335
I second the mudguard. I run a asssavers winwing and it works great. Lightweight too. No muddy and wet asscrack is a big upgrade

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 12:07:58 No.1973378 Report

Quoted By:

>>1973139
Absolutely hated these pedals personally, hope they work better for you than for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 14:00:40 No.1973392 Report

Quoted By: >>1973450

>>1973372
thanks
>>1973373
getting some mixed opinions here
maybe the boots didn't match well with them? what made you hate them? I can still cancel the purchase since they haven't arrived yet
t.hanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 16:52:59 No.1973450 Report

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>>1973392
Nah the shoes are good, dont worry too much. If you have them and rode a few trips you'll know what you want and if you like the whole concept. The pedals are great if you dont clip in imediately on rough terrain, pretty good if you're starting out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 17:53:54 No.1973484 Report

Quoted By: >>1973489

>>1973040
I had -28C a few days ago, and about 1,5m of snow

I wonder what made you think europe all had similar weather

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 18:01:38 No.1973489 Report

Quoted By:

>>1973484
it's 15 C in NYC today, just goes to show you it never gets cold here ever and nobody needs anything warmer than a light sweater

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 13 Jan 2024 21:49:15 No.1973524 Report

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>>1973034
zamiast schwalbe i challenge kup sobie gravelkingi slicki 38c

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 14 Jan 2024 11:52:12 No.1973605 Report

Quoted By: >>1975010 >>1975013

>>1973139
went on aliexpress shopping spree
bought shit with most positive reviews
the last thing I need for now are tires

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 16 Jan 2024 19:23:05 No.1974011 Report

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>>1973034
1. slam and drop that stem - get fucking aero in you posture before studying your legs you roadie scum . clipless sucks too.

2. spend the rest of your money on meat to gain muscle you twink

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Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2024 23:25:32 No.1974854 Report

Quoted By:

update:
bought these
now need road tires
probably will go with gp5k

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Jan 2024 23:27:22 No.1974855 Report

Quoted By: >>1974866

>>1973034
upgrade the engine not the bike
when you can keep up with the big dogs on their real road bikes then you can think about upgrading to a real bike from your BSO
/thread

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Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 00:30:41 No.1974866 Report

Quoted By: >>1974874 >>1974875 >>1974894 >>1974926

>>1974855
why is /n/ like that
>noooo you can't have nice things
>yes you have to struggle on basic gear because life has to be HARD
>nooo you can't enjoy life you must be miserable just like me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 01:12:26 No.1974874 Report

Quoted By: >>1974926

>>1974866
I've been screeched at for being a buyfag fred and then /n/ decided I was valid when I posted my beat to hell crabbon fred sled with the new part, so I'm officially qualified to answer this

part of it is just sour grapes of course, but also buying cool shit is way more satisfying when you can experience the less cool shit first, and then try the good shit. some people would consider op's bike to be quite nice already. it's more satisfying to get familiar with what "pretty good" is like, and then buying "really good", compared to just going straight for "really good"

if it was op with a BSO asking about an upgrade and /n/ said to "upgrade the engine" then you'd be right to shit on /n/ but in this case it's a legit complaint, if your new giant still has the whiskers on the tires and you're looking at upgrading the entire wheelset already (not even the tires!) you should be mocked and hazed

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 01:13:59 No.1974875 Report

Quoted By: >>1974917 >>1974926

>>1974866
/n/ is only like this for gottagofast race-ists because racing is not traniesportation. Moving from point A to point B is NOT a race, why do you NEED to be fast?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 02:34:38 No.1974894 Report

Quoted By: >>1974926

>>1974866
>implying that riding a perfectly fine brand new €2600 bike is a miserable struggle

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 08:37:21 No.1974917 Report

Quoted By: >>1974927 >>1975031

>>1974875
Racing is not transportation but time is money. If i can get somewhere faster i always choose the fast way. And the most important thing: fast = fun, atleast for me. Absolutely nothing wrong with OP spending a few grand on nice things. I also rode many bikes and my newest roadbike i bought for 5k is absolutely awesome. Di2 is cool af and i dont understand the hate against it.
Im not a fred and dont race but it just feels so nice to phisically feel the next step in bicycle evolution.
Why should i be miserable on something i dont enjoy?
You dont buy a corolla if you have enough money to buy a ferrari.
And a "ferrari" bike is affordable for most normies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 09:37:26 No.1974926 Report

Quoted By: >>1974953

>>1974866
>>1974874
>>1974875
>>1974894
If you go out and spend $10000 on a top-of-the-line race-geometry bike with 12-speed electronic groupset and full carbon wheelset, then you find out a year later that your genetics suck for endurance sports, or you can't get over being scared shitless all the time when on the bike, afraid you're going to crash all the time or whatever, and just generally suck at it, then you spent a shitload of money on an expensive bike you're never really going to get the full use of.
^^^ This is the very definition of a 'Fred'.
Meanwhile guys who plan on racing will start out with an inexpensive but serviceable bike for the first couple years, and if they do well training and racing then they think about getting a better bike more suited to their level of fitness and racing.
I know a guy who didn't even start out wanting to race, just wanted a road bike, so he had a Trek Pilot 2.1 he bought new. Rode that for a year or so before getting the road-race bug, but he was a poorfag again and kept training and racing on that Trek for years. It's only been in the past few years he's got a better job now and put together a real race bike from a used CF frameset, bought all the components and put it together himself. He tells me "wish I had this bike 10 years ago, things would have been different" because it's faster and much more maneuverable than the Trek. But he also says that he couldn't have known he'd need a bike like he has now.
Shitting on guys who want to improve as cyclists and be able to ride faster longer is just being crabs in a bucket, don't do that shit. If you get butthurt because guys in full kit on nice bikes are passing you like you're standing still that's your problem not theirs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 09:40:24 No.1974927 Report

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>>1974917
>And a "ferrari" bike is affordable for most normies.
Most people won't outgrow a $3500 bike, and even someone training to race won't outgrow it for years, and by the time they do outgrow it they'll have a better idea what kind of bike they want next.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 13:45:05 No.1974953 Report

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>>1974926
Anon, YOU are the fred. There's a difference between riding a near-BSO for 10 years because you can't afford it, and buying a perfectly good bike and throwing out the wheels before you've even worn down the first tires. That's just waste. He doesn't even know if he wants knobbies or slicks, let alone why. How is it useful to shave 200g off the wheels at this point? How can anyone defend this? You're a fred, fred.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 15:06:11 No.1975010 Report

Quoted By: >>1975013

>>1973605
>bought shit with most positive reviews
You should be careful with that. A good chunk of 500+ review articles are botted/fake. You can tell by the reviews having similair pics of the product, all looking way too "good", if that makes sense.
You should always take a look at the store info on the top right. It's a good sign if they've been in business for more than a year, even if their average rating is lower than a few month old stores.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 15:08:03 No.1975013 Report

Quoted By:

>>1975010
>>1973605
top left*

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 15:55:17 No.1975031 Report

Quoted By: >>1975036

>>1974917
>time is money
>You dont buy a corolla if you have enough money to buy a ferrari.
Spoken like a true poor who's always thinking about money, people who can afford a Ferrari buy the Corolla to hide their wealth. Stealth Wealth is the thing now

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Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 16:16:56 No.1975036 Report

Quoted By: >>1975061

>>1975031
Stealth wealth was the thing until that stupid Real Housewives of the Successors show finished up last year and everyone snapped out of it and realized buying a $2000 sweater where the hidden label inside has an expensive name in fine print so you can hope fellow temporarily embarrassed millionaires recognize your good taste is still conspicuous consumption even if you make up a convoluted cope story in your head about how your sweater is really just a deterministic outcome of your high social class and you're actually better than those blacks/chinese with their big gucci logos that are for some reason different because instagram logic

tl;dr /fa/ is calling, this is the autistic transgenders arguing about trains board and your kind is not allowed here

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Anonymous Sun 21 Jan 2024 16:56:36 No.1975061 Report

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>>1975036
>Stealth wealth was the thing until that stupid Real Housewives of the Successors show finished up last year and everyone snapped out of it
fuck, you're right, I forgot to download the latest NPC update so I'm out of the loop but I remember reading the ridiculous trend with that expensive water bottle so I believe you
>is still conspicuous consumption even if you make up a convoluted cope story
Damn, this is too real tho

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