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Anonymous Sat 08 Mar 2025 14:32:39 No.2035896 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2036141 >>2047162

"Wofür ist das?"-Edition

Anything public transport in German-speaking Europe is fair game.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 13:03:24 No.2036125 Report

Quoted By: >>2036141

https://www.rnz.de/region/regionalticker/polizeiberichte_artikel,-MannheimHeidelberg-Zug-verliert-bei-voller-Fahrt-eine-Tuer-Update-plus-Video-_arid,1526469.html

Welche Baureihe ist das?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 15:26:44 No.2036141 Report

Quoted By: >>2036142

>>2035896
That is a cheap elongation of the useful length of the table. You can place a newspaper on it so it doesn't fold at the bottom or a laptop computer (lower end of the base on the metal pipe, upper end on the table) and use the space behind it.

>>2036125
Bombardier Talent 2, BR442 in the grey, black and yellow "BeWegt" livery.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 15:36:14 No.2036142 Report

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>>2036141
>BR442
Thanks.
>yellow "BeWegt" livery
You certainly wouldn't want to have stood on that platform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 17:56:01 No.2036163 Report

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sometimes i lean on those doors on my commute and fantasize about one of them breaking and sucking me out and the train turning me into a gnarly mess of flesh and blood

i knew someone who joined DB as a conductor then one hot summer day on the job she probably passed out on the platform, slipping between the platform and the train as it started to roll, immediately and gruesomely killing her. she left her husband and a then 7yo kid. sad way to go.

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Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 17:59:50 No.2036165 Report

Quoted By: >>2036237

you might laugh at the video in OP, but it took me a while to find out that you pull the table towards you in the ICE 4 trains.
In other news, if you want to buy your own ICE, DB is selling their BR406 train sets. a couple of them still have the logo of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen on them, even after they sold them to DB. I just saw one in Frankfurt today on its way to the Ruhrpott joined with a normal ICE 3 BR403. I like the OG black info screens that they still have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 20:29:58 No.2036195 Report

Quoted By: >>2036199

Took the train to Germany last weekend. On the way there it was an SBB GmbH service, but it was crowded like a sardine can. Awful.

On the way back it was a DB train. Really dirty inside and outside. Aren't german trains ever cleaned?

The end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 21:26:57 No.2036199 Report

Quoted By: >>2036204 >>2036309

>>2036195
sure but the cleaning units are chronically understaffed. finding people willing to do those kinds of jobs is tough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 10 Mar 2025 23:27:08 No.2036204 Report

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>>2036199
Yeah who wants to clean shit for the minimum wage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2025 09:35:54 No.2036237 Report

Quoted By: >>2036238

>>2036165
>BR406
Which series is that? I can never keep the ICE 3s apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2025 10:18:14 No.2036238 Report

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>>2036237
it's the international version of the original ICE 3 with multisystem capabilities. they ran on the Frankfurt - Amsterdam and Frankfurt - Brussels lines and originally to Paris as well.
the constant switching between different current systems wore down the electrical components and made the BR406 really unreliable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 11 Mar 2025 21:52:13 No.2036309 Report

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>>2036199
Take the benefits away from lazy migrants and they'll find people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 14 Mar 2025 12:32:09 No.2036514 Report

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the fucking tomato juice is the cheapest beverage in the ICE Bordbistro lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Mar 2025 10:58:44 No.2036624 Report

Quoted By: >>2036637

I'm slightly annoyed by the double-decker RE trains.
I was sitting in the upper part, and some shitskins spotted a ticket checker coming from one end, so they scuttled downstairs, because there are stairs on both ends.
They should either only have one staircase and be dead-end or have people on both ends to catch these niggers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 15 Mar 2025 14:15:39 No.2036637 Report

Quoted By: >>2037102

>>2036624
>They should [...] have people on both ends to catch these niggers.
I have seen that happen on RRX once or twice, but it's really not a common occurrence, that they do that.
At the moment there is ZERO reason to schwarzfahren in Germany.
You WILL get caught at least once a month and have paid more than the regular fare with that.
The monthly chunk of social security earmarked for mobility is higher than the price of a D-ticket.
Anyone, that at this point intentionally skips the fare is pure evil. Take them to court!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 20 Mar 2025 17:41:58 No.2037102 Report

Quoted By: >>2038292

>>2036637
>Take them to court!
At this point in Germany the court case would either be simply dismissed or the poor hard working skilled workers would get a D-Ticket for a year for free to be able to go after their legitimate business. Also the ticket controller who caught them would get a 1500€ fine and a year in prison for racism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 20:51:22 No.2037205 Report

Quoted By: >>2037206 >>2037290 >>2037356

Where were you when DSO died?
I was out photographing train when friend call
"DSO is kill"
"No"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 21 Mar 2025 21:33:47 No.2037206 Report

Quoted By: >>2037290

>>2037205
who knew it ran on the same IT infrastructure as Deutsche Bahn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 23 Mar 2025 12:23:39 No.2037290 Report

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>>2037205
At least they got a "maintenance" screen in front of that mess now.
It's in a better state than the 4chins of old with its MYSQL ERROR:...s.

>>2037206
Well, the more recent troubles with DB's IT are different in nature: >>>/wsg/5841512

ö Mon 24 Mar 2025 14:18:56 No.2037348 Report

Quoted By: >>2037357 >>2037358

what do you guys think about westbahn expanding down to graz? i like westbahn more than obb so im pretty stoked

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 17:03:41 No.2037356 Report

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>>2037205
>Wegen eines Problems mit den Foren, bleiben diese bis auf Weiteres außer Betrieb.
>Einen Termin für die Wiederinbetriebnahme können wir nicht nennen.

What happen? A hack or a spontaneous self-combustion?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 17:11:20 No.2037357 Report

Quoted By: >>2037358

>>2037348
Wonder how they will do with 3 Girunos running a schedule for 3 trains without any reserve. And they can't dig up a spare 1144+Cityshuttle somewhere, like ÖBB did so far.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 24 Mar 2025 17:37:26 No.2037358 Report

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>>2037348
the comfort plus seats are 1st class seats being in use by SBB. that's clearly the choice for Klimaticket owners instead of suffering in the Railjets.
>>2037357
I hated beta testing the Giruni as passenger, but they seem to run reliably now. they could ask SBB to lease a train, but on the other hand SBB and ÖBB are working together as state owned operators.
makes me wonder if they keep the trains when the Semmeringtunnel opens. they could do cross-border services like Vienna - Venice or Vienna - Munich - Zürich/Frankfurt.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 31 Mar 2025 17:13:35 No.2037820 Report

Quoted By: >>2037916

>2nd ring line with Elbquerung to Finkenwerder
>looong U5
>Geesthacht gets 3 connections
ngl, that would be pretty cool. unrealistic sadly

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2025 17:03:03 No.2037916 Report

Quoted By: >>2037920

>>2037820
ring line sounds nice. something Bavarians couldn't come up with in Munich.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 02 Apr 2025 17:51:49 No.2037920 Report

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>>2037916
the Munich S/U-Bahn network would have so much potential if it didn't have the shape of a starfish. and the planned 2nd S-Bahn trunk line won't make it any better. at least they have a tram network to compensate for lacking cross connections.
Hamburg has an (underdimensioned) ring line with the U3, but no tram. we'd have first class transit with a larger ring line and a tram network. but for now, Berlin has Munich & Hamburg beat despite being the poorest of the three cities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 07 Apr 2025 11:34:43 No.2038292 Report

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>>2037102
what a braindead unreality post

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 08 Apr 2025 09:21:20 No.2038369 Report

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Die DB hat, was Reisendeninformationen angeht, nun einen "Single Point of Truth":
https://www.heise.de/news/Prognoseautomat-Wie-KI-die-Reiseinformation-bei-der-Bahn-verbessern-soll-10343289.html

Bald also vielleicht nicht mehr abweichende Informationen auf Zugzielanzeiger und in der Äpp? Wäre ein Fortschritt.
Wobei ich hoffe, dass dieser "Single Point of Truth" in einer verteilten Art und Weise gestaltet ist, sodass die Ausfallsicherheit gewahrt bleibt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 15:02:14 No.2038917 Report

Quoted By: >>2038929 >>2038934

What's your favorite CHAD transport company acronym? For me it's VAG (Nürnberg/Fürth) and FART (Locarno).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 17:28:58 No.2038929 Report

Quoted By: >>2047192

>>2038917
DING and bodo are pretty ebin

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Apr 2025 21:03:07 No.2038934 Report

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>>2038917
For Nürnberg it's actually VGN although that admittedly doesn't make much of a difference

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 29 Apr 2025 14:37:32 No.2039200 Report

Quoted By: >>2039298 >>2039315

Seit heute:
https://news.sbb.ch/medien/artikel/113076/einzelne-verbindungen-von-und-nach-deutschland-mit-umsteigen

Die EuroCity 7 und 9 enden ab sofort in Basel.
Die Züge in Gegenrichtung (EC6 und EC8) verkehren auf ganzer Länge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Apr 2025 06:09:56 No.2039266 Report

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Weeks later I realize that I mixed things up:
VAG is the Nuremberg transit company
VGN is the regional transit authority

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Apr 2025 16:13:54 No.2039298 Report

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>>2039200
Common germ L

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 30 Apr 2025 18:44:52 No.2039315 Report

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>>2039200
this is just official now, in reality the majority of these trains arrived late in Basel and ended there. that was my experience when I used the EC 8 all the way from Hamburg in the panorama coach. a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday I caught the EC 6 within Switzerland. as it arrived late, it was used on the IC6 service and continued to Domodossola, Italy instead of Interlaken. the train itself arrived really dirty as it transported lots of football fans earlier (the train goes via Münster-Dortmund-Düsseldorf-Köln, go figure). all that wasted Flaschenpfand on the beer bottles, one could buy another train ticket.
I can't count how many times my ICE ended prematurely in Basel Badischer Bahnhof instead of Basel SBB, which really sucks in the evening, when you want to catch one of the remaining trains to the rest of Switzerland.

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Anonymous Mon 12 May 2025 15:32:54 No.2040308 Report

Quoted By: >>2042140

Frage an die Ösis an der Stelle: Ist die Westbahn besser?

(Für den Fall, dass es mal wieder nach Wien gehen sollte.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 May 2025 10:36:10 No.2040443 Report

Quoted By: >>2040470 >>2040486

In other news: If railways don't start upping their autonomous driving game, freight rail is fucked.
>>>/wsg/5873181
And autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger rail, if they aren't properly integrated in a multi-modal mobility-as-a-service solution.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 May 2025 18:11:28 No.2040470 Report

Quoted By: >>2040486

>>2040443
>autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger rail
not gonna happen, as their throughput is simply too low. they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is.
metro and suburban rail networks will become automated first. already planned for the Hamburg S-Bahn and new metro line U5. tho autonomous minibusses are also in the works, but only to increase coverage for low density areas underserved by regular busses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 May 2025 21:47:03 No.2040486 Report

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>>2040470
>they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is.
Tesla is putting a lot of effort into it to make it scale. (Including autonomous Tesla-busses.)
Tesla owners will be able to rent-out their cars as taxis through a maker-operated platform. Self-driving obviously helps a lot with this.
The optimum would obviously be to have on-demand vehicles for the last-mile to and from the closest station to offer an integrated solution at scale.
If public transit operators don't start putting some effort into that, (US) car makers will make them redundant. And German car makers' future is also not looking too bright, considering this.
Look at >>2040443. That's not a closely controlled experiment, but regular operation on public roads. The future is already here and it won't wait for us, if we don't get up to speed.

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Anonymous Fri 16 May 2025 08:07:44 No.2040582 Report

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Reminder that the WSV (Wasserstraßen- und Schifffahrtsverwaltung des Bundes) offers free ferry rides across the NOK. Ideal for hikers and bikers, as there are only few bridges.
https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/1_Fahrplaene/Fahrplaene_node.html
The locations (pic related):
https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/3_welche_faehre_faehrt_wo/welche_faehre_faehrt_wo_node.html
I can also recommend taking the train to Rendsburg, as the view from the bridge is spectacular.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 May 2025 17:03:45 No.2040782 Report

Quoted By: >>2041020 >>2041120

What are the "best" railway museums in Germany?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 May 2025 14:58:29 No.2041020 Report

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>>2040782
DB museum in Nürnberg is OK. not that much in terms of rolling stock, but the history is well documented with rail related items. I haven't been to the one in Koblenz, I think they have some older stuff and have some summer festival with lot of opportunities for hobby photographs.
French national railway museum is in Mulhouse and can easily be reached from Freiburg or Basel, they have lots of space and tons of rolling stock on display.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 May 2025 17:56:14 No.2041120 Report

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>>2040782
The Technikmuseum in Berlin has a pretty nice exhibit of locomotives housed in some old roundhouses which originally belonged to the Anhalter Bahnhof (once the biggest train station in the city). They've also got large exhibits on ships and planes, if your /n/-tism swings that way.

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Anonymous Sat 31 May 2025 13:03:53 No.2042060 Report

Quoted By: >>2042110 >>2042134

Vielleicht doch eine Idee, mal wieder bei den Ösis vorbeizuschneien:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0F4NzdlpAc
Wobei ich am Ende eher mit einem Seitenhieb auf Berlins U55 (1,8km) gerechnet hatte.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 May 2025 16:21:39 No.2042110 Report

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>>2042060
That's really cool. I do wonder why they opted for the extra expense of funicular and air cushions. I guess that ski town has (had?) money to spare for projects like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 May 2025 20:04:31 No.2042134 Report

Quoted By: >>2042239

>>2042060
>RedditMeme Transit
Dachte der hätte ausgehört.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 31 May 2025 22:05:54 No.2042140 Report

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>>2040308
Ja und es gibt mehrere Gründe

- Kostet gleich viel aber sauberer und besserer Service
- Bei ÖBB wird man evtl. von Platz vertrieben wenn man für diesen keine Reservierung hat, bei Westbahn kannst du über QR-Code direkt am Sitz einchecken und hast dann einen Fixplatz und wirst nicht mehr kontrolliert
- bei ÖBB kannst du evtl. nicht einmal in den Zug einsteigen wenn du keine Reservierung hast (starker Reisetag)
- ÖBB Vorteilscard (halbiert jeden Ticketpreis) gilt auch für Westbahn
- Westbahn ist immer Doppeldecker, dh du kannst wenn du willst immer erhöht sitzen

Kotzt mich ziemlich an dass ÖBB dich de facto zwingt ne Sitzplatzreservierung zum machen, außer dir gefällt es jederzeit vom Platz vertrieben zu werden (weil "gegebenfall reserviert" sich jederzeit zu "reserviert" ändern kann) oder sogar in einen Zug nicht einsteigen zu dürfen (Zustieg nur mit Reservierung wegen überfülltem Zug)

Falls du öfter fährst dann hol dir die app und kauf dir die Tickets damit, dann sammelst du goodboy-points mit denen du entweder Snacks oder ein Upgrade auf Klasse 1 kaufen kannst

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 01 Jun 2025 20:49:17 No.2042239 Report

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>>2042134
No idea. I didn't know that channel before.
That video simply popped up in my recommendations and I thought, it was intriguing enough to warrant a post to /chad/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 17 Jun 2025 21:12:04 No.2044977 Report

Quoted By: >>2045046

Wie gewonnen: https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/presse/presse-regional/pr-frankfurt-de/presseinformationen-regional/Meilenstein-beim-Wiederaufbau-der-Eifelstrecke-erreicht-13407606
So zerronnen: https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/westfalen-lippe/bahn-marode-bruecke-legt-gueterverkehr-lahm-100.html

Wozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 18 Jun 2025 12:41:20 No.2045046 Report

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>>2044977
>Wozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?
we haven't (yet). and you can bet that even church-run and other private hospitals, senior homes, childcares etc. will be counted as infrastructure spending as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 04:15:26 No.2046761 Report

Quoted By: >>2046792

>Stellwerkstörung KRM
>Fliegerbombenentschärfung in Osnabrück
>38°C in West Germany
Haha, a perfect day to go to Cologne. Looking forward to regret my decision later traveling with Deutsche Bahn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 01 Jul 2025 09:27:31 No.2046792 Report

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>>2046761
Senk ju for träveling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjhszy2f9w

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 07:19:31 No.2047106 Report

Quoted By: >>2047114

DB is a reflection of present day Germany: a country in decline.

Shit never runs on time, trains are dirty, often vandalized, filled with loud Germans or disgusting brown Merkel rapefugees.

Absolute nightmare.
Polish PKP is nicer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 10:01:08 No.2047114 Report

Quoted By: >>2047117

>>2047106
Note that it was the conservative party that financially starved the train system for 20 years, invited the refugees and gutted the social programs keeping them from committing crime. And who now blow up the national debt while handing out tax breaks to the rich and make everything more expensive for everyone else, and refusing to invest in climate adjustments, guaranteeing total collapse of the economy in the next 20 years.
Meanwhile the AfD basically wants to do the same things, but harder.
Rightoids will drive this country into the ground, just so ultra-rich boomers don't have to sell their third private island.

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 10:42:40 No.2047117 Report

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>>2047114
>conservative party

>CDU
>Cuckservative

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 16:28:23 No.2047145 Report

Quoted By: >>2047146

>
https://www.rtl.de/news/passau-bayern-syrer-20-greift-ice-fahrgaeste-mit-hammer-an-vier-verletzte-id4484274.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 16:44:26 No.2047146 Report

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>>2047145
see? weapon bans do work. now that it's illegal to carry knives on trains, the attackers are forced to use hammers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 18:17:00 No.2047162 Report

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>>2035896
>in germany
>not german
typical lol

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Anonymous Thu 03 Jul 2025 21:29:26 No.2047192 Report

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>>2038929
>tfw DING customer

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