https://www.newstimes.com/news/article/sandy-hook-families-alex-jones-deal-bankruptcy-18516952.php The Sandy Hook families who forced Alex Jones into personal bankruptcy after they won $1.48 billion in defamation damages have offered the Infowars host a deal to pay them 6 percent of what he owes in exchange for dropping their claim against him.
“Jones may elect to receive a complete discharge for himself and (his parent company also in bankruptcy) if he agrees to pay, from any source, at least $8.5 million per year, plus 50 percent of any income over $9 million per year, for 10 years,” reads a settlement offer by the families’ attorneys, filed two days before Thanksgiving in Texas bankruptcy court. “The time has come for Jones to choose whether he is willing to pay his creditors a reasonable portion of what they are owed or would prefer to remain embroiled in costly and time-consuming litigation for years to come.”
Jones’ bankruptcy attorneys had not responded to the families’ settlement offer on Monday, except to tell the judge in a pre-Thanksgiving filing that Jones was working on his own plan to get out of bankruptcy that would be presented in December.
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I can't even begin to imagine how retarded the judge was to believe that Jones could pay 1.48 billion dollars.
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Isn't the money won from defamation lawsuits supposed to be based on the potential earnings that the defamation cost the victims, which also needs to be proven? Even if all these families are rich and normally earn millions, I can't imagine how what Jones said could impact their finances that badly
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>>1240539 Whether someone can pay has no bearing on whether or not they'll be indebted to pay someone.
Honestly I've no idea why you would think otherwise.
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>>1240557 Pain and suffering + punitive damages. The targets of his bullshit received an ungodly amount of threats and harassment.
You can make someone suffer without causing them monetary harm and courts can determine penalties should go beyond equal compensation to punish bad behavior.
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>>1240562 I imagine having to move repeatedly because of conspiracy theorists tracking you down will cause some monetary harm
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>>1240560 When a judge awards damages, they generally take into consideration if the claims have merit and whether or not they can actually issue the requested legal remedy.
Jones doesn't have the GDP of Grenada sitting in his wallet.
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>>1240583 A jury awarded damages.
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>>1240562 that's a lot of words just to say I'm a cry baby bitch
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>>1240503 captain cringe better take the deal
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>>1240597 >still saying cringe in 2023 ngmi
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What pain and suffering was caused from a school that was closed down due to asbestos contamination?
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>>1240597 >captain cringe better take the deal ...thus proves he's a pussy
Sandy Hook families vs Soyboy Jones' pride. Either way, he's destroyed.
Make an example of that thing. Prove to other retards that you can't afford to have wrong opinions.
Sandy Hook hooks jones
>>1240503 >6 percent of $1.5B = 90M
He dont have even this
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>>1240588 That's a lot of words to just say I hate my clown lost.
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>>1240562 >The targets of his bullshit received an ungodly amount of threats and harassment. As they should for lying and reading from a script.
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>>1240650 Have you considered becoming a crisis actor?
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>>1240610 Where do you people get this shit from?
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>>1240657 Alex Jones, hence him getting his pants sued off and the fund going to construct a bathroom atop his grave to spare the groundskeepers the trouble of all the pissing in public.
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>>1240503 >puh-puh-please gibs us a little moneys don't ho bk and gibs nothing pleeez! theonetimecapsule explainsitsself
>>1240659 >construct a bathroom atop his grave an outhouse with a 15 metre pit, drop his corpse and a time capsule down the hole and that should be deep enough for 100 yrs of shits.
in 1000 yrs, an Android archeologist will excavate the pit and say WTF!, humans were weird
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>>1240629 He does. He's been ham-handedly trying to play a money shell game with his friends, relatives, and associates. I think some report came out that he was suddenly started paying his "personal trainer" millions of dollars a year.
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>>1240629 Prove? We know he's hiding a lot of his money and he could turn over all his businesses to the victims.
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>>1240684 I'm not a Jones fan but there were no real damages.
This was legal bullshittery.
Jones is still a big mouth scum bag.
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>>1240688 >I'm not a Jones fan but... And you're part of the reason he why he owes a billion dollars in damages.
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>>1240691 Shut up, tard. Reply to me when you have something to say.
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>>1240671 >peepeepoopoo >poopoopeepee Finest liberal intellectuals right here.
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I'm curious how they intend to get this money that literally doesn't exist. They can't force him to sell his house or his assets or his businesses. They can't force him to pay the money. So, what now, faggots?
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>>1240557 Only in 'Murica you can own people billions for saying wrong or retarded shit
That's why i hate this country now lmao
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>>1240588 That's a lot of words to say you're a brainrotted sociopath
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>>1240734 Awe does baby need a diaper change?
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>>1240646 please read your sentences out loud before you post knuckle dragger.
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>>1240713 Used to be land of the free, home of the brave. Now look at it. A model for totalitarian dictatorships around the world, while said dictatorships are now becoming decent and prosperous places to live. Go figure.
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>>1240744 Yeah, what kind of country is it where you can't make massive amounts of money while traumatizing parents of slaughtered kids.
Go live in one of those dictatorships, zoom zoom. They need more ditch diggers.
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>>1240745 Do you imagine you'll be entitled to a jury the day they come for you?
Or are you delusional enough to believe that what you're watching them do to other people could never happen to you?
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>>1240671 Your scat fetish belongs on /lgbt/
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>>1240746 >unironically defending Alex Jones lmao
you'll never be a woman
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>>1240750 Not defending Alex Jones; just the system we used to think we had.
If Alex or Trump don't have the right to a jury trial, how could you possibly still believe that you do?
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Did a jury of his peers convict him? Innocent until proven guilty by a jury of your peers goodsir
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>>1240760 There was no jury, sir. The Alex Jones case, like the civil case against Trump in New York, has been summarily decided by a judge.
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>>1240751 >both actually waived their rights to jury trials >HELP ME JEBUS IM BEING PERSECUTED You people are a parody of yourselves
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>>1240765 >Parroting nonsense Neither Trump nor Jones waived their right to a jury trial, lying faggot.
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>>1240751 I deal by just not committing crimes.
Its pretty easy.
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>>1240767 >Nobody in America gets falsely accused. Nobody is actually this fuckin retarded.
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>>1240768 Trump and Alex Jones weren't falsely accused
you retarded faggot
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>>1240770 Thank God we have jury trials in place to assure that, right faggot?
You belong lined up on the wall, commie.
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>>1240771 Trump didn't request a jury trial
Jones had plenty of jury trials that he lost
go dickride over on /pol/, you'll have a receptive audience to your horsefuckery
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>>1240772 The DA in New York charged Trump under a bullshit consumer protections bill that precludes a jury trial; it wasn't an option.
The judge in the Jones trial rendered summary judgement that Jones was guilty of libel and the jury was told he's already been found guilty and they're only there to determine the dollar amount he owes.
Get some knowledge, stupid faggot.
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>>1240774 >pretending you can't request a Jury trial in NY he could, they just didn't. You'd know this if you didn't regurgitate retarded talking points
Alex Jones was definitively guilty of libel. If you think Sandyhook was a false flag than don't waste your time here, go fuck yourself to death ASAP.
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>>1240774 >The DA in New York charged Trump under a bullshit consumer protections bill that precludes a jury trial; it wasn't an option. Which is a fancy way of saying his lawyers forgot to check a box requesting a jury. Also, it's a civil suit. He's not charged.
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>>1240775 >https://www.legaldive.com/news/trump-lawyers-didnt-forget-to-check-a-box-on-jury-trial-judge-engoron-say/696385/ Regurgitating some bullshit you read on a blog and pretending you know what's going on just shows how pathetic you are, faggot.
Now tell me why the judge presiding over the case isn't a good source for Trump not having access to a jury trial, lying commie faggot.
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>>1240779 Classic projection post
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>>1240774 >The judge in the Jones trial rendered summary judgement that Jones was guilty of libel and the jury was told he's already been found guilty and they're only there to determine the dollar amount he owes. Because Jones repeatedly refused to cooperate with fucking discovery, a mandatory step in any trial to which the Sandy Hook families were entitled his cooperation.
In civil trials, if you refuse to play by the rules, you just fucking lose. You don't get to cheat and win.
If Jones wanted a jury trial he should have complied with the fucking court as he was repeatedly warned to do.
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>>1240743 1. You can't hear me
2. It's not my job to teach you to read
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This man will basically never make another cent in his entire life. Is there a point in debating which absurdly high amount he's going to be giving them?
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>>1240784 Alex (and his lawyers) say that they've turned over everything and the plaintiff says otherwise. How does the judge come to that conclusion? He can issue subpoenas to banks for the records. Have you ever participated in issuing a subpoena in a civil trial? I have.
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>>1240783 Run away, lying commie faggots. Daylight is breaking, cockroaches.
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>>1240779 Fuck off with your checkbox bullshit, faggot.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-impeachment-attorney-admits-he-could-and-would-have-sought-a-jury-in-ny-fraud-trial/ >Under New York executive law. 6312 The action, the section under which this is brought, because they said the remedies are generally equitable, not money damages. And historically there hasn’t been a right to a jury trial for equitable damages. That is taking away the business license and that sort of thing. But I would have filed a jury demand to litigate the issue because here there are very severe monetary punishments at issue potentially. And I think there’s a strong argument to be made for the right to a jury trial. It could have been requested, but Trumps team ignored the window. There's precedent for it being requested for cases being prosecuted under Section 63(12).
Choose one: Trump has shitty lawyers, or they deliberately chose not to request a Jury trial
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>>1240787 > Is there a point in debating which absurdly high amount he's going to be giving them? If you're gullible enough to think Sandy Hook was a hoax, Alex is being unfairly persecuted for muh freezepeach, and that most of the stuff Alex says is true, then yes, you're going to defend that failed crazy worldview, especially if it makes you feel like a redpilled special snowflake while you're doing it.
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>>1240791 So which source is more credible here:
>The judge presiding over the case >The nigger blog you just linked Think hard, bro.
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>>1240789 >Alex (and his lawyers) say that they've turned over everything and the plaintiff says otherwise. And they lied. As evidenced when the phone fucking came out.
>How does the judge come to that conclusion? I believe he strikes his little hammer into his desk.
>He can issue subpoenas to banks for the records. The records were already under legal order to be turned over. How would a subpoena have helped? Did you mean a warrant? That would be an extraordinary step for a civil trial
>Have you ever participated in issuing a subpoena in a civil trial? I have. You sound like it.
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>>1240794 >I can't refute your point, so I'm going to attack your source without merit I accept your concession
Die mad, faggot
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>>1240794 The judge presiding over the case says he would have denied the request, but they didn't make it.
They were still free to make it and the denial could have been appealed. Fact is Trump didn't request a trial.
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>>1240790 I can't help but wonder when you were first indoctrinated by the far right
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>>1240795 You don't issue a subpoena to Jones, you stupid faggot. You issue them to the banks. And then the banks turn over the records. You have no clue what you are talking about.
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>>1240797 Lying commie faggots get the rope.
No need for a jury trial.
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>>1240800 Trump isn't going to get the rope, silly billy
He's just going to have his companies taken away, and will die poor and raging while sponging off you and other MAGA retards
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>>1240796 This is why you don't bother "debating" intellectually dishonest communists faggots, you just find the highest tree around.
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>>1240804 Are the "commies" in the room now?
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>>1240805 Nah, you faggots are probably just shitposting from your parents basement.
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>>1240807 You might try not sounding like a 90 year old whining about commies
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>>1240786 >it's not my job to teach you to read don't talk like a tard that just learned new words.
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>>1240808 Commies are usually unemployed and unemployable; it's a generational trend and I'm in my 30s.
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Jones, everyone he employs, and all of his fans should be forced into indentured servitude until hid debt is fully paid
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>>1240832 I would say that we could do that with libshits and commies, but they don't have any useful skills.
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>>1240815 If any of those words were new for you, that would explain some things.
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>>1240799 >You don't issue a subpoena to Jones, you stupid faggot. You issue them to the banks. He refused to turn over internal InfoWars analytics, you dumb bitch.
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>>1240841 Analytics of their financials which Jones says literally doesn't exist. How do you produce records that don't exist, stupid faggot?
I'm not even saying it's true; what I am saying is Jones got fucked and you're fucking retarded if you think they're ok to railroad the likes of Alex Jones and Donald Trump but not Bob Glownigger. (You)
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>>1240839 Kill yourself retarded tranny faggot
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>>1240503 Luckily the USA will collapse soon so that 1.48b will only buy a house at most
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>>1240852 Thanks for sharing your fanfiction with us, Pablo.
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>>1240839 fuck the retard can't read or talk correctly. Does only your mom call you special or does the state as well?
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>>1240846 >Analytics of their financials which Jones says literally doesn't exist. How do you produce records that don't exist, stupid faggot? You go to court and get a judge to rule on it.
Also, bullshit.
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>>1240692 Nah, stop defending Jones and what he did.
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>>1240847 Ladies first.
>>1240889 >Does only your mom call you special Nah, I save the sweet talk for your mom.
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>>1240890 When there's a disagreement of fact it's the jury's job to decide who's telling the truth, not the judge.
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>>1240915 A jury can't decide jack or shit without parties complying with discovery which is entirely ruled over by judges as part of the pretrial process. Go fuck yourself. You can't equivocate AND argue technicalities at the same fucking time. If you're technically wrong, you're just fucking technically wrong.
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>>1240922 The jury decided Jones was lying about his finances. Cry more
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>>1240928 No they didn't, lying faggot.
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>>1240583 tell me youve never opened a book without telling me youve never opened a book
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>>1240789 having someone serve you a subpoena because you dont pay child support doesnt mean youre participating in the system, chud
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>>1240959 >Hurr durr headline says jury reached verdict Nobody is this retarded.
The jury decided what the damages were, not whether or not Jones was guilty or didn't properly respond to discovery requests.
>>1240962 >Hurr durr served with subpoena over child support Again dumbass, the banks get the subpoenas you illerate commie faggots, not the individuals involved in the civil action. Learn the system, children.
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>>1240983 >he's innocent >1.5 billion dollars damages you're a special kind of retarded, eh?
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>>1240983 Juries in civil trials don't determine guilt, Mr. Court Expert.
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>>1240997 Yes they do, retarded commie faggot. Learn the system, child.
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pretty fucked this man has to pay over a billion dollars because obongo ordered multiple CIA spooks to kill kids so that he could try to ban and confiscate guns so that he could do a genocide
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>>1240998 NTA, but no civil trials do not determine guilt, retard.
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>>1241001 The word game being played here is very strange. Yes, a civil trial does not determine guilt in the criminal context but to say that a jury just decides damages, not guilt, is a very strange way of framing the fact that the jury found compelling enough evidence to warrant damages to the plaintiff for defamation. "BUT HE WASNT FOUND GUILTY" is just a really strange, reductive way of summarizing what happened.
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>>1241002 Correct, he wasn't found guilty. He was found liable.
There's a big difference legally and I'll thank your faggot ass to remember that.
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>>1241005 Ok he was found liable of being a slimy degenerate dumbfuck conspiracy grifter instead of being found guilty of being a slimy degenerate dumbfuck conspiracy grifter. Do you feel better?
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>>1241009 Yes, thanks for using the proper term.
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Alex Jones is part of a psyop to make opposition to the elite look retarded and despicable. For example if someone mentions Jeffrey Epstein and his unnamed accomplices, you are instantly associated with Alex Jones, QAnon and other zany asswads. Of course, if you are rational enough, you can say criticism of Epstein is separate and apart from all this, but most people are going to zone out, they are not going to hear you out. This is how this psyop works. It is part white noise and part black propaganda.
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>>1241014 Or he's just an unimpressive grifter who found out he could make a lot of money selling conspiracies to dumb people.
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>>1240891 What did he even do? Sandy hook was a fucking hoax and I vote straight blue ticket every time. How did he cause a billion in damages?
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>>1241019 read the op article
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>>1241002 >Jury found compelling enough evidence to come to a judgement Not what happened. The judge issued summary judgement that he was guilty and the jury was only brought in to determine the dollar amount.
The judge decided the outcome of the case before the jury was even picked. Hence, Jones did not have a right to a jury trial. And yet commie faggots in this thread will argue both that he did have a jury and that he didn't have a right to a jury anyway, because commies don't believe in our justice system anyway.
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>>1240597 He can't. He's probably up to his eyeballs in debt
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>>1240503 >none of his assets or anything can be touched due to bankruptcy >know you can't force him to do shit so try to settle for lesser amount If they're already backing down from the $1.5B rulling- which is fucking ridiculous btw, BigPharma doesn't pay that much in class actions for killing people- then they'll back down from their $90m request. They'll settle for nothing because they know they have no recourse otherwise.
I can't wait for these slimy fucks to get absolutely nothing and cry about it.
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>>1240766 So, what did they not do to get a jury trial?
The legal system is defined by laws and processes.
A quick search shows that for Trump they did not engage the process, thereby they did in fact wave any option of a jury trial.
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>>1241115 https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-operation-warp-speed-vaccine-summit/ >We’re here to discuss a monumental national achievement. From the instant the coronavirus invaded our shores, we raced into action to develop a safe and effective vaccine at breakneck speed. It would normally take five years, six years, seven years, or even more. In order to achieve this goal, we harnessed the full power of government, the genius of American scientists, and the might of American industry to save millions and millions of lives all over the world. We’re just days away from authorization from the FDA, and we’re pushing them hard, at which point we will immediately begin mass distribution. Anonymous
>>1241087 If the right to a jury applies to all judicial proceedings then how the fuck are the various laws and codes that allow summary judgement without the option for a jury tial allowed to stand, to pass constitutional test?
Can you at least explain that? Surely you can point to the reasoning for their existence and explain why it is wrong.
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>>1241198 The judge claimed there was no dispute of fact and rendered summary judgement. You can look it up, you don't have to take my word for it.
The fact that judges can issue summary judgement may not really be the issue; rather how they're applying it.
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>>1240560 >muh kids im so sad now I get a billion dollars The law is quite the thing.
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How did Lanza afford those guns and ammo, let alone able to handle carrying everything. He was anorexic weighing only 112lbs.
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>>1240766 They did waive their right. Do you really think that they would have fared better with a jury?