Theres no baby to be saved here. Just a dying woman being denied a chance to have another child and/or not die.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/texas-threatens-doctors-judge-emergency-abortion-1234920048/ Last week, Kate Cox, 20 weeks pregnant and a mother of two, received the worst news a person can get: her baby had a fatal condition known as Trisomy 18. The baby will not survive to birth, but under Texas law, there are only two options available to Cox: a vaginal delivery, or a C-section. Either option would risk her life or her ability to have children in the future.
Because of two prior C-sections, Cox’s doctors advised her she is at a high-risk for a uterine rupture if she had an induced labor, and that if she had a third C-section it would increase the chances that she is unable to carry a future pregnancy to term. On Tuesday, Cox’s lawyers filed an emergency lawsuit, asking the court to temporarily block the state’s bans so Cox could obtain an abortion.
Travis County Judge Maya Guerra Gamble heard from both Cox’s lawyers and the state of Texas — whose lawyer argued that Cox didn’t meet the threshold for a medical exception to the state’s multiple abortion bans. On Thursday, Judge Gamble reportedly teared up as she read her opinion from the bench: “The idea that Ms. Cox wants so desperately to be a parent and this law may have her lose that ability is shocking and would be a genuine miscarriage of justice.”
The case marks the first time a woman has asked a judge to approve an emergency abortion since the Supreme Court struck down the federal right to abortion last year.
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Judge Gamble granted the temporary restraining order, clearing a path for Cox to obtain an emergency abortion. Cox, Gamble wrote in her opinion, “has already been to three emergency rooms with severe cramping, diarrhea, and leaking unidentifiable fluid. If she is forced to continue this pregnancy, Ms. Cox is at a particularly high risk for gestational hypertension, gestational diabetes, fetal macrosomia, post-operative infections, anesthesia complications, uterine rupture, and hysterectomy, due to her two prior C-sections and underlying health conditions.” Texas attorney general Ken Paxton wasted no time threatening anyone who would aid Cox in obtaining an abortion. “The temporary restraining order granted by the Travis County district judge purporting to allow an abortion to proceed will not insulate hospitals, doctors or anyone else from civil and criminal liability for violating Texas’ abortion laws,” Paxton said in a statement shortly after the judge’s decision. “This includes first degree felony prosecutions…and civil penalties of not less than $100,000 for each violation. Paxton added, ominously: “The [judge’s temporary restraining order] will expire long before the statute of limitations for violating Texas’ abortion laws expires.” The attorney general went on to dispatch letters to three Houston-area hospitals where the doctor who was to perform Cox’s abortion has admitting privileges, threatening them with civil and criminal penalties if the abortion were to take place. “We feel it is important for you to understand the potential long-term implications if you permit such an abortion to occur at your facility,” Paxton wrote, adding that the hospitals “may be liable for negligently credentialing the physician and failing to exercise appropriate professional judgment, among other potential regulatory and civil violations.”
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>>1243434 Check the catalog first next time, newfag redditor
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if you dont want kids dont have sex, simple as. if you have sex, you suffer the consequences. if death is what god says must happen, then you must die. abort the mother
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>>1243828 We get it, you're an incel wanting revenge on woman.
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>>1243829 maybe i just care about american values and jesus christ our lord and savior. maybe i dont hate america. maybe i dont hate white men.
all things that you couldnt relate to
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>>1243654 mother's vax status?
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>>1243831 Could you explain to the thread what forcing a woman to give birth to a dead baby that might kill her has to do with American values or white men?
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>>1243654 On a side note, why the fuck do so many god damn doctors do c-sections in America? Impatient fuckers aren't they. Like half the mothers I know got c-sections it's ridiculous. Imagining a doctor in the maternity ward tapping his foot and looking at his watch
>Gonna miss my show tonight if this damn baby doesn't come out >Ah fuck it. Alright boys cut 'er open and pull that fucker out!!! Anonymous
>>1243850 Only 30% of live births in the U.S. are c-section.
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>>1243852 ONLY 30%?!?! THAT IS A FUCKING TON
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>>1243856 I'm not a doctor nor do I have medical training of any kind. I couldn't tell you if 30% is a ton or not.
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>>1243850 >why the fuck do so many god damn doctors do c-sections in America To improve outcomes for mothers and babies.
Would you prefer episiotomies?
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>>1243858 Let me put it to you this way. Say that you are a woman in the United States who wants to have a child. That means you have a ⅓ chance that you're going to get a gruesome painful operation that's going to leave you with a giant permanent scar on your stomach and tons of scar tissue internally.
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AL the AI uses the internet(all by itsself) Fri 08 Dec 2023 23:38:23 No. 1243862 Report >>1243656 >Check the catalog first next time, newfag redditor Next time don't post a reactionary title like ''Satanist Austin judge grants woman permission to get an abortion despite state’s ban''
You republicrecalcitrant
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>>1243850 Take a look at the Medicaid reimbursement for natural birth versus C-section and see if it's still hard to figure out why hospitals push for more C-sections and don't bother telling women about the long-term risks.
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>>1243861 I mean, all of those scary adjectives are great and all but neither of us have any medical training or authority to state whether the amount of c-sections happening are too much or too little. I have no clue what constitutes a medically necessary c-section or not. Neither do you.
>>1243865 Is this a popular conspiracy theory or did you just make this one up on the fly?
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>>1243654 If they think the judge is abusing her power just impeach her
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>>1243871 >Mentioning financial interest is a conspiracy theory Aren't you violating Shabbat, faggot?
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>>1243877 >Mentioning financial interest is a conspiracy theory What you did is directly implied that hospitals are consciously pushing for more c-sections on women and don't tell them the long term risks because c-sections earn them more money than natural birth. This is a conspiracy theory you have zero evidence for.
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>>1243862 That's not a reactionary title.; that's just a fact. The enemies of this world who will kill lie and deceit others to stray them further from God are the very spawns of Satan itself.
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>>1243881 >Medical professionals couldn't possibly act in a way that earns them more money You are a delusional child.
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>>1243885 >Medical professionals couldn't possibly act in a way that earns them more money Firstly, that's a wildly retarded strawman. I have a hard time believing that's the best you could come up with. Secondly, lots of things are possible, anon. Typically you require evidence to establish that it's actually happening.
>You are a delusional child. Says the absolute fucking moron who thinks that something being possible is evidence.
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>>1243889 The anon I was responding to asked why doctors in America are doing C-sections instead of natural births so much more than other countries and I said look at the money.
It isn't a conspiracy theory and it isn't rocket science you stupid, stupid faggot. Should I get an article from Vox (or some other mainstream dog shit vlog) to explain it to you?
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>>1243891 >The anon I was responding to asked why doctors in America are doing C-sections instead of natural births so much more than other countries and I said look at the money. But to be absolutely clear you have no clue if money has anything to do with it. You have no no clue what constitutes a medically necessary abortion nor do you have any evidence that money impacts those decisions at all. You're just giving us your feelings.
>It isn't a conspiracy theory and it isn't rocket science you stupid, stupid faggot. It by definition is a conspiracy theory. You're alleging that doctors and hospitals are conspiring together to earn more money by forcing unnecessary medical procedures onto women - a theory you have zero evidence to support.
>Should I get an article from Vox (or some other mainstream dog shit vlog) to explain it to you? If the article has any evidence your conspiracy theory, sure.
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>>1243894 >Believes medical industry operates on fairy dust and unicorn farts That's why you're a delusional child, faggot. Why should I try to explain to you how the world runs on money and C-sections cost 50% more than natural births, when you think I need to prove what people's motives are? Fuckin kids. Isn't there an age restriction here?
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>>1243911 sorry to hear that. i hope your will is in order.
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>>1243908 >Believes medical industry operates on fairy dust and unicorn farts Honestly, is this the best strawman you brain can come up with?
>Why should I try to explain to you how the world runs on money and C-sections cost 50% more than natural births, when you think I need to prove what people's motives are? So you're giving me a bunch of reasons why your conspiracy theory is possible but you have no proof its real. As of now its all in your head. Someone having a motivation to do something is not evidence that they actually did it. You don't actually have any clue if money motivates c-sections at all. You have no evidence so its just your feeling.
>Fuckin kids. Isn't there an age restriction here? If I am a kid your embarrassment only deepens. You were called out for pulling a conspiracy theory out of your ass and your only response was "WELL, ITS POSSIBLE! PEOPLE LIKE MONEY!".
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>>1243884 Not him but that's a reactionary title and you're a reactionary.
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>>1243918 Play with your little unicorn figures and let the 18+ talk here, little fgt.
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>>1243921 >Makes up conspiracy >Has no evidence >Resorts to ad homs Thanks for playing, anon. Enjoy your BTFO.
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>>1243829 Women are the killers not me. They're barbaric and soulless monsters and it's amazing society has been brainwashed into thinking women are somehow feminine and benevolent. Women no longer count as a human being.
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>>1243919 You're either a stray retarded NPC faggot or you are the anon you claim not to be. All traitors to human beings are enemies and thus are the right hand man of Satan. You are either with god or with Satan. That's all that matters in this world
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>>1243931 I said we get it. You're a KHV and your mom didn't hug you enough.
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Reps are retards for pushing the anti-abortion issue, it doesn't fit with their purported support for individual rights in other regards, it drives away young voters (particularly women, obviously) and hardcore anti-abortion types will still vote Rep, as there is no way they'll ever vote for the Dems.
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>>1243931 Seek professional help and I mean it earnestly.
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>>1243964 You can't support others by killing babies. Also young voters are the dumbest cattle to ever exist. Who needs their votes?
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>>1243934 This is why your cult is losing numbers in droves.
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>>1243966 A fetus is not a baby
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>>1243871 >have no clue what constitutes a medically necessary c-section or not. Quick Google search says 15%, don't need to be a doctor to do that dumbass
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It is really amazing how stupid republicans are about abortion and drugs, it's equally amazing how stupid the democrats are on guns, and making high school girls undress in front of people with testicles. It's almost like both parties got together at some imaginary place that doesn't exist, lets call it Bohemian Grove, and they all decided that neither of them actually want to run the country, because if you are in charge people expect results. So they split the issues people care about, and then go wild retard on some other ones to try to keep the electorate divided as much as possible. This makes each side happy when they win an election that doesn't change anything, and it lets both sides blame the other side for why there hasn't been progress on a single issue since Kennedy got shot.
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>>1243971 >>1243983 Stop killing babies sick fucks
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>>1243654 Roasties btfo'd. You're free to move to places with the pozzed laws you'd prefer
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>>1244021 This argument is invalid. This baby will die either way. You are a ghoul who wants to take bodily autonomy away from women. This has nothing to do with killing a baby.
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>>1244030 When all women start to leave Texas then they will write laws making it illegal for women to leave the state.
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Unironically if the technology existed to keep doomed fetuses alive by preventing birth, Republicans would sentence women to be living coffins until their stomachs tore open and then charge them for manslaughter if they survive the explosive miscarriage.
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>>1244036 libtard OC is wild
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>>1243966 > You can't support others by killing babies. I don't like that abortion happens but it is a fundamental individual's human right to control their own body, the Government doesn't get to tell a woman that she _must_ give birth (and to a retarded/dead baby yet!).
And this particular case is a perfect example of why the government shouldn't enact religious beliefs into law and in the case of "casual" abortion for non-medical reasons, no chick wants an abortion in the first place and this would be greatly reduced by making the Pill free to all women, which is FAR cheeper then the tax payers footing the bill for years of welfare for unwanted children.
And I'll remind (fellow) Rightwingers that most of those aborted babies are Black.
> Also young voters are the dumbest cattle to ever exist. Who needs their votes? Votes are votes and older voters are only getting older (and the Elites killed off a ton with covid).
I'm a 56 year old guy so this issue doesn't affect me directly but for young people, it IS a Big Deal and the Reps are morons for pushing it.
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>>1244033 Women are flocking to Texas.
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>>1244038 >Experimental vaccine injections forced on everyone I sleep.
>Women prevented from killing their unborn baby MY BODY MY CHOICE OMG THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!
Nobody can take this shit seriously.
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>>1244050 true, libshits torched their credibility in 2020
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>>1244050 >forcing a mother to give birth to a dead baby and possibly orphan her existing kids is a good choice You're a parody of a person, go fuck yourself to death
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>>1244050 Well I didn't "sleep" during covid, I bitched up a storm and never got the shot (though I did eventually get covid last year and took the Paxlovid pills) for the same reason; it is MY body and MY choice.
Fuck you and fuck the Government.
How can Reps justify (legitimately) bitching about covid shots but be cool with the government forcing a woman to give birth?
You can't have your cake and eat it too.
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>>1244050 >>1244063 No one had the shot forced on them except members of the US Military
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>>1244106 Every time you tell this lie you get btfo
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>>1244106 Many, many people were fired for not taking the vax.
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>>1244107 No one believes you
>>1244111 They had a choice
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>>1244117 Everyone was forced. Some refused.
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Funny how none of the conservatards know any of the details in this case.
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>>1244122 It's not like they care when they learn them. You seem to have misunderstood the point of the conservative forced birth movement.
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>>1244117 The sloots getting abortions had a choice too.
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>>1243983 >there hasn't been progress on a single issue since Kennedy got shot. Computers went from the size of a building to the size your dick.
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>>1243835 /pol/ still ignoring this.
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>>1244140 You've read that one article The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion? Makes me wish I could just have a secret camera is the doctor's office of these rightwing religious cunts.
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>>1243829 >incel You showed your hand tranny. Now back to the Redd1t cesspool
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>>1244165 They killed 3rd party apps, you whiny faggots are such with us
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>>1244152 His dick's not that big.
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>>1243654 yeah i gotta admit, forcing this lady to birth a stillborn is fuck all evil
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>>1244030 youre a demented little kid
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>>1244215 Killing millions of unborn babies seems like a bigger issue to me.
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>>1244275 But enough about your dick sucking
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>>1244278 the total number of abortions worldwide is numbered in the billions
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>>1244287 And the total number of sperm you've swallowed is in the trillions
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>>1244111 Should have joined a union.
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>>1244296 Oh because union workers didn't have to get the experimental DNA jabberdo?
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I don't really have a problem with abortion. If some ghetto ratchet doesn't want to multiply or if a fetus turns out to have down's syndrome, abortion is probably best. However.. No christian fundamentalist ever called me "incel". They don't call me "creep", they don't go "ew" when they see me, they don't hire underqualified women over me for "diversity". I am only treated like a subhuman piece of shit by the "tolerant" and "inclusive". So if the christian right insists abortion is bad I'll take their word for it and oppose it to the grave, if that's what they want, I'll help. Maybe if we had maintained trad values society wouldn't be so terrible.
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>>1244300 I think a lot of people getting abortions are probably better off not getting pregnant in the first place, but I have to recognize that it's still murdering an unborn child.
The level of delusion to believe otherwise is equivalent to believing that a man can become a woman simply by proclaiming it as long as they "believe it enough."
Even old school religions didn't ask for this level of blind faith to scripture.
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>>1244300 >I am only treated like a subhuman piece of shit by the "tolerant" and "inclusive" >Maybe if we had maintained trad values society wouldn't be so terrible. Traditionally subhuman pieces of shit were treated like subhuman pieces of shit. Just sayin'.
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>>1244062 Wrong. you just want to slam Chad and Tyrone all day without facing any consequences. The baby inside your stomach is still a baby and he isn't a dead baby. You will never be a woman
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>>1244153 Why should anyone take his retarded off topic question in the first place tranny? He didn't have an actual response. Now dilate
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>>1244290 They're not babies if they're not even born yet so your premise is false in the first place
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>>1244325 the law disagrees. an embryo or fetus injured or killed in the womb is recognized as a child in utero. 38 states recognize the fetus as an unborn child.
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>>1244325 >Magical vaginal gateway to personhood Again?
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>>1244329 Typical republican thinking basic biology is magic
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>>1244327 Sounds like 38 states got it wrong and 12 states got it right, but everyone already knew republican states were backward.
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>>1244327 >the law disagrees It does not. The state acknowledges a legal difference between a fetus terminated at the request of the mother and a fetus terminated against the will of the mother. These laws recognize that unlawfully killing a fetus is an act of homicide - not that a fetus is a full legal person. If those 38 states unequivocally acknowledged a fetus as legal persons then none of them could have abortion laws on the books. A fetus is not a baby.
>>1244329 >Again? Yes. It is you failing to understand the argument, again.
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>>1244571 Literal bullshit.
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>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kate-cox-texas-abortion-ban-medical-exemption-trisomy-18/ Oh look faggots, she left the state and got the abortion and nobody needed to make a special exemption. Remember when I said that's what should happen? Cope and seethe fgts.
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>>1244786 You are conveniently neglecting the fact the state Supreme Court put a stay on the district court's ruling and she didn't have enough time to wait for a final decision. Also, you are conveniently neglecting that politicians that want to ban abortion also want to ban interstate travel for the expressed purpose of abortion.
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>>1243828 This, It’s not even hard
Hell they even have their own catchy phrase for it
>you are not entitled to sex Don’t wanna get pregnant? Don’t have sex. You have an ass, a mouth and hands don’tcha?
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>>1244794 And dickheads that want to ban AR-15s would also ban pistols, but we're not here to talk about the slippery slope, faggot.
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>>1243828 Not even in an emergency? What specifically about an already dead baby is different from, say, having a bypass to save your life?
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>>1244818 >And dickheads that want to ban AR-15s would also ban pistols This is the game politicians (at the behest of Wall Street) play; the Reps are anti-abortion even though they know it's stupid and Dems are anti-gun even they know it's stupid.
The two parties are given assigned roles to insure people will vote for one or the other and NEVER an alternative. Trump was an alternative (who nobody expected) and _both_ parties went out of their way to fuck him over to maintain the status quo.
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>>1243862 Yeah and "REPUBLICANS HATE WOMEN" isn't reactionary.
>now watch as he responds with "It isn't, good of you to notice." Anonymous
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>throws the bitch a clotheshanger You're welcome.