https://gazette.com/news/wex/confederate-memorial-to-be-removed-in-coming-days-from-arlington-national-cemetery/article_c1bfa69c-1017-5ad6-9828-358e8e47c8ec.html ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) — A Confederate memorial is to be removed from Arlington National Cemetery in northern Virginia in the coming days, part of the push to remove symbols that commemorate the Confederacy from military-related facilities, a cemetery official said Saturday.
The decision ignores a recent demand from more than 40 Republican congressmen that the Pentagon suspend efforts to dismantle and remove the monument from Arlington cemetery.
Some of the figures also on the statue include a Black woman depicted as "Mammy" holding what is said to be the child of a white officer, and an enslaved man following his owner to war.
In a recent letter to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, more than 40 House Republicans said the commission overstepped its authority when it recommended that the monument be removed. The congressmen contended that the monument "does not honor nor commemorate the Confederacy; the memorial commemorates reconciliation and national unity."
"The Department of Defense must respect Congress' clear legislative intentions regarding the Naming Commission's legislative authority" the letter said.
U.S. Rep. Andrew Clyde, a Georgia Republican, has led the push to block the memorial's removal. Clyde's office did not immediately respond to an email seeking comment Saturday.
A process to prepare for the memorial's removal and relocation has been completed, the cemetery said. The memorial's bronze elements will be relocated, while the granite base and foundation will remain in place to avoid disturbing surrounding graves, it said.
Earlier this year, Fort Bragg shed its Confederate namesake to become Fort Liberty, part of the broad Department of Defense initiative, motivated by the 2020 George Floyd protests, to rename military installations that had been named after confederate soldiers.
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The North Carolina base was originally named in 1918 for Gen. Braxton Bragg, a Confederate general from Warrenton, North Carolina, who was known for owning slaves and losing key Civil War battles that contributed to the Confederacy's downfall. The Black Lives Matter demonstrations that erupted nationwide after Floyd's killing by a white police officer, coupled with ongoing efforts to remove Confederate monuments, turned the spotlight on the Army installations. The naming commission created by Congress visited the bases and met with members of the surrounding communities for input.
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good trash any traitor graves while you're at it
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>marxists accusing everybody else of being traitors Daily reminder that McCarthy was right and the Red Terror was real.
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>>1246894 Another L for democrats
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>>1246894 Weird how all the statues being taken down are the ones depicting democrats
Anonymous
>>1246925 >>1246937 >>1246940 What kind of chud cope is this?
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>>1246941 Ah yes, historical accuracy; a "chud cope."
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>>1246948 are you saying the unionists, lincoln, and the republican party at the time were marxists?
what level of delusion is this?
Yeah. Im thinking its chud cope.
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>>1246950 Cool strawman. Remind me, which party were the confederates?
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>>1246940 Weird how it’s only republicans who seem upset by taking them down
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>>1246953 True, only democrats have an interest in destroying their own party's history
>>1246956 Didn't exist until after the confederates were defeated. Why are demoKKKrats so historically illiteratndvjne?
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>>1246894 Why you no good yankee carpet bagger, my great great great great grand pappy treated his coloreds real good, they ate 3 squares a day, got sunday off, lived together in their proto socialist communes. he werent one of them owners that separated families, ant the avg negros on my ggggg pappys plantation lived better than most po' whites in that time
Then came the dogooders and looky at the state of colored folks today, killin' each other and takin' dope and pimpin' out their daughters to white men, and livin' in roach and rat infested hovels.
Anonymous
>>1246959 it's funny how you make a fool out of yourself and think that's an argument
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>>1246966 >cant refute basic historical facts >gets btfo Keep coping
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>>1246970 And double down. Well have fun being upset
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>>1246970 >Democrats are the real racists! This meme is not gonna stick no matter how many times you repeat it.
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>>1246976 No, I'm the real racist.
And as a racist I can tell you Democrats were formerly racist against blacks, but are now racist against whites.
Also it's odd that the word "Democrat" isn't considered offensive despite the fact that they were literally the KKK,
As a racist I seek to figure out the mystery of how Democrats continued a history of racism and avoided group shame.
Democrats are in inspiration to racists and perhaps one of the most important case studies in understanding how to enact racism without being labelled as racist.
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>>1246981 your statue is never coming back faggit
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>>1246981 >And as a racist I can tell you Democrats were formerly racist against blacks, but are now racist against whites. I don't know what it is but this is definitely among the most boring of the schizo right-wing memes. Its not even fun to argue against at this point.
>Also it's odd that the word "Democrat" isn't considered offensive despite the fact that they were literally the KKK, Its because southern conservatives were the KKK, as they still are.
>Democrats are in inspiration to racists and perhaps one of the most important case studies in understanding how to enact racism without being labelled as racist While, on the other hand, you're not an important case study. You're just another run of the mill conservative who projects their worst traits onto everyone around them. Again, its a boring meme. Nobody outside of this small echo chamber even bothers dignifying this delusion with a response anymore. You're reaching like flat-earther tier of irrelevance.
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>>1246984 You paid $800,000 to have it removed.
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>>1246986 >I don't know what it is but this is definitely among the most boring of the schizo right-wing memes. Its not even fun to argue against at this point. It's not a meme. Democrats are racist against whites at this point. There's no denying this.
>Its because southern conservatives were the KKK, as they still are. So not all Nazis were bad people? What a cope.
>While, on the other hand, you're not an important case study. You're just another run of the mill conservative who projects their worst traits onto everyone around them. Again, its a boring meme. Nobody outside of this small echo chamber even bothers dignifying this delusion with a response anymore. You're reaching like flat-earther tier of irrelevance. I'm not even conservative. Hating Democrats doesn't make me a conservative, moron.
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>>1246988 Confederates wasted a generation of men for an ignoble cause
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>>1246990 And only those ignorant of history would seek to remove it, much less pay $800,000 (probably to a Democrat politician's family member) to have it removed.
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>>1246993 >the only way to remember history is by honoring losers with statues Anonymous
>>1246994 >Ignorant of the history of why they exist, he continues his bullshit Anonymous
>>1246995 they exist because the winners were nice enough to end reconstruction and allow traitors to feel sorry for themselves. but it's just never enough, is it
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>>1246999 Nope, we need to celebrate them because......uhhh....
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>>1246999 Oh wow. Someone does know.
These monuments exist due to the total victory of the north and demoralization of the south.
There's no reason to remove them, much less celebrate Democrat politicians giving big government contracts to their mafia friends to remove them.
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>>1246898 I hope you dont think youre some kind of 'good person'
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>>1246940 they were the good democrats
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>>1247013 I hope you don't think slavers were good people. Who am I kidding, you relish in the thought of absolute control over others while crying for independence.
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>>1246981 >I seek to figure out the mystery of how Democrats continued a history of racism and avoided group shame. civil rights act
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>>1246990 >ignoble cause what cause was that? slavery? false.
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Retards still think the party of white nationalism(republicans) is NOT RACIST. LMAO.
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>>1247015 No, the jews are not good people.
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>>1247015 muh slavery
that 5th grade brainwashing stuck hard huh
slavery was the least of it
an overreaching federal government was the issue you brainless little kid
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>>1247027 You don't even have any sort of education at all you fucking brain dead Neanderthal. Fucking die.
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>>1247030 slavery was on its way out kid, would not have lasted much longer
>pisses on your head Anonymous
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>>1247031 You are gonna burn with the rest of the traitors faggot
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>>1247027 >we want to keep owning people and make them do all their work while torturing and raping them as much as we want. Yeah, the Southern States were chafing under the Federal Government overreaching by telling them to treat people like people.
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>>1247027 >the civil war was about state's rights, not slavery!!! The state's right to do what, anon?
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>>1246972 Have fun being btfo
>>1246976 Democrats have always been the party of racial grievance. They will always be the party of the kkk and the confederacy
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>>1247072 you just gave up on debate conduct i see
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>>1247073 You got btfo. What's left to debate?
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>>1247078 how did your forced meme btfo anyone anon. the statues are gone and history remains unrevised by you
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>>1247078 >the Republicans who are the only people in America waving Confederate flags are all actually Democrats No one is this stupid.....right?
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>>1247081 Remind me again, which party were the confederates?
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>>1247086 This simple question btfos democrats every time.
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>>1247086 there's no way you're american, even the most
braindead southerner would never make this argument
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>>1247088 So which party was it?
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>>1247089 the confederates. you know which modern party still hoists the confederate flag
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>>1247086 Dems. Remind me again, which party are Neo-Confederates?
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>>1247091 And which political party created the confederacy? Why cant you answer this simple question?
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>>1247093 >The Confederacy was formed on February 8, 1861, by seven slave states: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas.[8] All seven states were in the Deep South region of the United States, whose economy was heavily dependent upon agriculture, especially cotton, and a plantation system that relied upon enslaved Americans of African descent for labor why can't you view history in anything other than crass oversimplifications? is it because you're not even american
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>>1247095 It's not an oversimplification to state that the confederacy was comprised entirely of democrats. Not sure why you struggle with this basic historical fact.
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>>1247096 >>1247096 >by seven slave states: South Carolina, Mississippi, Florida, Alabama, Georgia, Louisiana, and Texas calling those states democrat states today is as ridiculous as calling russia communist. why do republicans support communists anon? answer me
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>>1247098 You realize democrats lost most of their southern territory after losing the war, yes?
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>>1247099 >You realize democrats lost most of their southern territory after losing the war, yes? man you definitely aren't american. yes?
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>>1247100 >cant refute basic historical facts >gets btfo Nice cope
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>>1247107 you have no idea how to frame american history, you're just conflating anachronisms because you're retarded
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>>1247108 Stating historical facts isn't conflating things. You're just coping.
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>>1247112 you don't state facts though
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>>1247086 Thanks to political realignment, Republicans
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Conservatives will never take responsibilities for any of the crimes they committed against American and will always project them onto others. In this case, pushing their crimes onto their old party after they all switched the Republicans when the Civil Rights Act was passed. A friendly reminder that; The Conservatives were the Loyalists fighting for the British Crown during the Revolutionary war, while the liberals at the time were fighting for self governance and independence. The Conservatives were the Confederates who betrayed America to keep the racist and conservative institution of slavery alive while liberals were fighting for the Union and abolition. The Conservatives were the Fascists during World War II who supported the Nazis with with groups like the American Bundt while the liberals stood with the free world to fight them. Conservatives have no respect for freedom, unless it's their personal freedom to oppress others.
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>>1247124 Ohhhhh so close. Sorry, the correct answer was in fact: Democrats
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>>1247093 >>1247092 >>1247091 >>1247086 >>1247124 >>1247156 Trying to compare the Democrats and Republicans of 2023 to the Democrats and Republicans of 1850 is absolutely moronic.
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>>1247161 >>1247159 The confederates were Democrats. End of discussion. It's fun watching democrats deny their own history. It's no wonder why they want to tear these statues down.
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>>1247163 so this is just an attempt at reverse psychology? adorable
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>>1247163 >The confederates were Democrats. End of discussion. There is no universe in which you're intelligent enough to have this conversation. Anybody who thinks any political party of 1850 are even remotely comparable to the political parties of 2023 is cognitively challenged and immediately needs a helmet and a state assigned supervisor.
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>>1247166 >Jefferson F. Davis (June 3, 1808 – December 6, 1889) was an American politician who served as the first and only president of the Confederate States of America from 1861 to 1865. He represented Mississippi in the United States Senate and the House of Representatives as a member of the Democratic Party before the American Civil War. How is it that you don't know these basic facts of American history?
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it's not really worth it to argue with kooks anyways. he's a village idiot
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Forfeitted the argument but still coping post:
>>1247171 Anonymous
>>1247166 see, he even responds if you say crazy.
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>>1247161 It's what conservatives do.
See
>>1247131 Anonymous
>>1247169 See
>>1247166 >Anybody who thinks any political party of 1850 is even remotely comparable to the political parties of 2023 is cognitively challenged and immediately needs a helmet and a state assigned supervisor. Anonymous
>>1247183 >bumping his gay cope no one read the first time Kwab
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>>1247187 >Can't refute the facts that conservatism is the one to blame for slavery Anonymous
>>1247185 It's literally the same party but keep coping
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>>1247188 I sincerely doubt you could even define conservatism if you tried
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>>1247190 >Trying a no true scotsman Conservatives want slavery and don't forget, conservatives is Florida are trying to brainwash their kids that slavery was good.
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>>1247189 >Thinks the Democrat party in 1850 is the same Democrat party in 2023 The public school system miserably failed you
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i think he's so ESL he thinks "can't define it" is an actual argument
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>>1247194 >Democrats are conservative today. LMAO, conservative education everyone.
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>>1247195 It's weird how opinionated you are about something you cant even define.
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and he's desperate for replies even though I'm not replying to him
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>>1247198 See
>>1247189 >>1247199 >Still cant define it KEK
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>>1247197 See
>>1247189 >>1247199 >Still cant define it KEK
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>>1247200 >Replying to himself because he got BTFO over conservatives. LOL
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>>1247206 >Still can't link properly because he got BTFO over conservatives being the ones to blame for slavery LOL
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>>1247208 Define "conservative".
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do your own homework faggot
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Kek he's incapable of doing it. What a dipshit:
>>1247211 Anonymous
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>>1247209 >Make a dumbfuck argument >Gets called on it >Instead of engaging with the criticism I'll just deflect by demanding everyone else define and clarify my argument instead of defining it and clarifying it myself Yawn
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>Conservatism is when things I don't like! The absolute state of libshits on this board. Go back to Canada and stay there.
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do you really want to normalize not responding to each other? you won't get paid, so i hear
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Did mods really delete the democrat buttsex thread? Lmao
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>>1247220 >the democrat buttsex thread Which one?
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>>1247215 I accept your concession
LOL
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>>1247222 Keep telling yourself that.
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>>1247220 Buttfucking democrats are ashamed of their Confederate past.
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>>1247234 Confederate democrats are ashamed of their buttfucking present. What a disgraced party.
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>>1246894 Lol you have to know that the seceding states only used slavery as a means to get the jewish slave owners to help pay achieving states rights. If you don't know this then you're just an ignorant retard who never read a civil war book.
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>>1247240 it's not quite late enough for you to get away with such low post quality
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>>1247242 Liberal fragility
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>>1247243 i'm fragile? all i'm doing is critiquing you
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>>1246951 >b-b-but dems were the baddies in the civil war! Yup, that's right, and we've never had any sort of major political realignment in the 160 or so years since then. As we all know, the south still votes democratic and the north still votes republican.
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>>1247227 >He admits he's wrong LOL
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>>1247251 No, I agree with you. Conservative southern whites still vote democratic and progressive northerners still vote republican just like they always have.
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>>1246894 Canadian here. I unironically get most of my information about American politics from John Oliver. I actually didn't realize the Democrat party was responsible for the KKK, Jim Crow, and the Confederacy. Turns out I was wrong about everything. And the fact that Joe Biden literally eulogized a Klansman-the same Klansman that mentored Hillay Clinton-shows that the Democrat party hasn't changed much in the last 100 years. The more you know...
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>>1246894 Canadian here. I unironically get most of my information about American politics from John Oliver. I actually didn't realize the Democrat party was responsible for the KKK, Jim Crow, and the Confederacy. Turns out I was wrong about everything. And the fact that Joe Biden literally eulogized a Klansman-the same Klansman that mentored Hillary Clinton-shows that the Democrat party hasn't changed much in the last 100 years. The more you know...
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>>1247256 >>1247257 >False flagging this hard Also samefagging too
>>1247200 >>1247202 LOL
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>>1247259 What are you even talking about? You sound mentally unhinged
>>1247257 Good post
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>>1247260 >same fagging even more LMAO
Anonymous
>>1247257 Thank you for your honesty. It's not easy to admit when you're wrong.
A great example of exactly that:
>>1247261 Anonymous
>>1247262 >He's STILL same fagging ROFL
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>>1247263 >samecoping We get it, you got btfo. No need to keep going on about it
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>>1247264 >He admits he samefagged LOL
Anonymous
>>1247265 You say the same thing every time you get btfo
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>>1247266 >He's still not denying it LOL
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>>1247257 I'm confused, why are republicans up in arms over removing confederate monuments if democrats are the real racists?
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>>1247267 It's sad to see someone so btfo as yourself cope so hard
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>>1247269 >He's still not denying he got caught same fagging. LMAO
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>>1247270 >He's still samecoping You got btfo. Time to move on with your life.
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>>1247273 >He's still admitting he got caught same fagging. LOL
Anonymous
>>1247274 Okay, I'll admit it. I btfo you. Happy now?
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>>1247275 >Okay, I'll admit it. Nice job admitting you same fagged. As a leaf no less. The absolute shamelessness of (you)
LOL
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>>1247276 Yes, I was the same person that btfo you. You caught me.
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>>1247277 >Yes Nice job still admitting you same fagged.
LMAO
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>>1247278 Correct, me and the poster that btfo you are in fact the same person. Very astute of you.
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>>1247279 >He's still admitting he same fagged LOL
Anonymous
What kind of fucked up Kabuki theatre is this thread
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>>1247280 Indeed, the poster that btfo you and myself are one and the same. I can no longer deny it.
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>>1247282 >indeed Good to see you still admit you same fagged
LMAO
Anonymous
>>1247281 tl;dr
Conservatives are trying to deflect their sins and racism onto political parties because the moment you look at it through ideology, you find that they're the root of racism in America and they just switched parties in the 1960 after the Civil Rights Act passed.
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>>1247013 You don't have to be good to know the Confederates were traitor cucks who got their shit kicked in and they deserved nothing. :Y
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>>1247283 You've forced my hand. I confess: I was the one that btfo you. It was me btfoing you this whole time.
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>>1247288 >He's still admitting he as same fagging LOL
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>>1247284 Yeah... they just... "switches parties". Republicans all looked at the racist loser democrat party that just lost the civil war and said, "let me in on that". Kek. American history 101 fail
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>>1247289 I almost feel bad for you at this point. It was fun painting your dumb ass into a corner though.
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are they trying to appeal to jetlagged immigrants or something
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>>1247290 >Yeah... they just... "switches parties". Yup, this is what happened.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VOM8ET1WU Anonymous
>>1247293 >unironically posting vox Lol
Anonymous
>>1247257 Good post. Democrats hate historical accuracy.
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>>1247291 LMAO at your same fagging
>>1247295 >>1247294 >Cooldown posting >Still same fagging LOL
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free speech is too cheap
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>>1247296 What a very specific type of mental illness.
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>>1247298 What you have given you're still trying to samefag and getting caught because it's so blatant?
LOL
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>>1247300 Fine, let me come clean once and for all. It really was me thats been btfoing you this whole time.
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>>1247301 >He admits he was caught same fagging, again. LOL
Anonymous
>>1247302 Me: btfo you
You: cope
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>>1247303 I accept your conncession same fagger
LOL
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>>1247304 >Conncession Dang, you dun goofed. Add another btfo to the tally.
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>>1247306 >Desperate to change the subject after being exposed for same fagging LMAO
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now go do that voodoo that you do so welllllll
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>>1247307 I must confeaa, I'm a little embarrassed to admit that it was me that's been btfoing you non-stop.
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>>1247310 >Confess You already confessed a while back you were same fagging
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>>1247307 I must confess, I'm a little embarrassed to admit that it was me that's been btfoing you non-stop.
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>>1247290 Lmao, I know, right? Like, what kind of retard actually believes the parties switched when the south still votes democratic and the north still votes republican just like they did during the civil war?
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>>1247320 The South only votes Republican now cause there's more Republican Black voters in the South outweighing the Dem voting whites than there was right after the Civil War. If it weren't for that shift in demographics, they'd still be Dem.
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>>1246989 There’s no use man American conservatives genuinely have a low IQ. No wonder other countries are laughing at us
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>>1247320 >>1247290 >He's still same fagging >>1247310 >>1247312 And giving away he tried to pretend to be a leaf.
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>>1247027 OOOOOOOOOOOH
AWAY DOWN SOUTH IN THE LAND OF TRAITORS, RATTLESNAKES AND ALLIGATORS
RIGHT AWAY, COME AWAY
WHERE COTTON'S KING AND MEN ARE CHATTELS
UNION BOYS WILL WIN THE BATTLES
RIGHT AWAY, COME AWAY
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>>1247322 Oh no countries with fascist governments are laughing at us.
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>>1247336 Damn, bro got so btfo he just started randomly accusing posts of being the same person.
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>>1247380 >Nooo, don't call out my samefagging Seethe /pol/
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Shills are losing their grip on reality:
>>1247381 Anonymous
>>1247382 But enough about /pol/
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>>1247321 Holy cope batman!
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>>1247268 Democrats don't want statues of their old leaders bringing up bad memories the same way dictators get rid of the previous dictators' memorabilia.
History is written by the party and the party is always right.
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>>1247400 So you entirely ignored the question. Good job fooling anybody Ivan.
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>>1247399 That was obviously sarcasm. Black Republicans should have been your first clue.
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>>1247417 Nta but he's right actually.
>A majority of the 600 delegates to the 1867 convention were black, but white delegates controlled the important positions.[6] >The Republican Party developed dramatically in Texas during the Reconstruction era, after constitutional amendments freeing the slaves and giving suffrage to black males. Blacks joined the party that had ensured the end of slavery. African American leaders, frequently men of mixed race who had been free and educated before the American Civil War, provided leadership in extending education and work opportunities to blacks after the war. They supported establishment of a public school system for the first time. Men such as William Madison McDonald in Fort Worth, Norris Wright Cuney in Galveston, and Henry Clay Ferguson worked for the black community and the state. It's sad how historically illiterate democrats are. At least it makes them easy to btfo
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>>1247423 You're still being retarded? What do you hope to accomplish
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>>1247425 You're still coping? Take your btfo with some dignity.
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>>1247423 I'm that anon and the sarcastic part was that there are more Black Republicans now you illiterate fuckwit. I know Blacks were Republican after the Civil War! That's what I was fucking referencing with the fucking sarcasm!
Obviously the fucking parties flipped. Just look at who votes how.
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>>1247426 Your life must suck ass if you spend all night and day being unconvincing on this dead biard
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>>1247430 >the parties flipped Kek, he actually said the meme
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>>1247434 you convince no one
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>>1247436 Oh noes. You can lead a libtard to water, but you can't make him accept historical facts.
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>>1247438 It's like you people never heard of George Wallace before.
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>>1247439 George Wallace; a racist, pro-segregationist democrat. So.... exactly like modern day democrats then?
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>>1247447 He was secretly a Republican. They found out when they read his journal after he died.
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>>1247447 >>1247448 He left the Democrat party and took most of the southern democrats with him. After he lost the Presidency, they all became Republicans.
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>>1247459 Wallace never ran as a republican. And politicians changing parties was fairly uncommon in that period. It's much more common now. Which is why the "parties flipped" meme cant be substantiated with historical record.
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>>1247462 >"I am an Alabama Democrat, not a national Democrat. I’m not kin to those folks. The difference between a national Democrat and an Alabama Democrat is like the difference between a Communist and a non-Communist." -george wallace
and a runner up quote
>"I was out-niggered, and I will never be out-niggered again" -george wallace
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>>1246894 >Statue of a black woman must be torn down because she's a "mammy" Lol.
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>>1247466 NGL, that still sounds like a modern Alabama democrat
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>>1247462 >"parties flipped" meme >>1247466 >>1247469 You people are clueless
>The Dixiecrats' presidential candidate, Strom Thurmond, became a Republican in 1964, as the Republican standard bearer opposed civil rights laws. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat Anonymous
>>1247467 If slapping a Black woman in something made it agreeable, Sherman wouldn't have needed to burn Atlanta.
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>>1247483 >Sherman wouldn't have needed to burn Atlanta. Sherman's march to the sea has since been outlawed by the Geneva conventions. Murdering civilians and destroying their homes is viewed unfavorably unless you're Israel.
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>>1247503 >democrats are the real confederates! and they should feel bad for beating us in the civil war! what a fucking awful thread this has been
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>>1247503 >Sherman's march to the sea has since been outlawed by the Geneva conventions. Foraging and destruction of property under military necessity is actually allowed under the Geneva Conventions.
Look it up.
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>>1247506 >military necessity He was destroying civilian infrastructure. Thousands of miles of railroad and telephone line, utterly decimated.
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>>1247480 The dixiecrat meme lasted for less than a year. Barely even worth mentioning tbh
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>>1247505 Do Canadians really not know the confederates were Democrats?
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>>1247513 people on your side itt are already crying about losing the civil war, it's over
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>>1247514 I'm not a democrat.
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>>1247512 Dixiecrats weren't a meme
>>1247515 The racist dems became republicans in the latter half of the 20th century
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>>1247517 >The racist dems became republicans in the latter half of the 20th century Which ones?
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>>1247518 if you don't know, why are you arguing so vehemently
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>>1247508 >Rail and communication lines >Civilian infrastructure >In a military dictatorship under martial law during wartime Lol. Lmao even. Next you'll say it's illegal to blow up bridges.
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>>1247521 Judging by your evasive response it sounds like you're the one who doesn't know. Which ones?
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>>1247518 Get owned by
>>1247521 retard
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>>1247525 we already went over this itt, if you also can't read maybe you should stop arguing
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How can the party of wanting racial segregation and saying this is white America claim to not be racist. Only Russian agiprops are allowed to respond to me.
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>>1247528 The dixiecrats were a Democrat offshoot. They were never a republican entity.
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>>1247533 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat >States' Rights Democratic Party (Dixiecrats) >Leader Strom Thurmond >Founded 1948 >Dissolved 1948 >Split from Democratic Party >Merged into Democratic Party >Ideology White supremacy Racial segregation This is the only thing they have to cling to.
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>>1247533 >>1247543 Strom Thurmond was a Republican Senator for 40 years after he was a Democrat
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>>1247015 You think niggers are people?
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>>1247544 And he was a Democrat for 30 years including when he openly supported segregation, and everybody in the dixiecrat party returned to the Democrat party.
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>>1247548 >he was a democrat, then he was a republican so do you understand that things change yet
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>>1247549 Nta but one guy changing parties isn't evidence of a party switch. The hard truth is that democrats are ashamed of their party's history and have done everything they can to whitewash it, including the tearing down of statues of their own former idols.
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>>1247550 >just because you presented evidence doesn't mean anything you faggots are massive losers, i can't imagine being one of you
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>>1247553 You didn't present evidence though. You came up with a single name. That doesn't constitute a party switch. Also, you seem mad.
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>>1247554 >your evidence isn't evidence you've lost, stupid. back to the drawing board
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>>1247555 It's really not evidence though. How is Strom Thurmond switching parties evidence of a party flip? As other anon already demonstrated, Strom's Dixie offshoot failed and was absorbed back into the Democrat party.
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>>1247556 the evidence is the fact that the states that joined the confederacy vote republican today, and get upset if you take their statues down
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>>1247558 Is anyone from then still alive?
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>>1247564 the lost cause myth sure is
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Glad to see the tearing down of a Jim Crow monument commemorating a few years of treason. Even more glad to see people are mad about it. Let the void serve as a monument to the slow death of their ideology. Never forget we need to drive the people that would defend this statue into the ground with their compatriots, no matter what party they're hiding in now or in the future.
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>>1247524 > Next you'll say it's illegal to blow up bridges. I dunno anon, the holocaust survivors might agree with that sentiment.
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>ITT we have stupid fights instead of recognizing that mafia Democrats paid one of their children or friends $800,000 to tear this statue down.
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>>1247578 are you upset that the statue is being preserved elsewhere
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>>1247506 I'm pretty sure the murder of civilians, killing of livestock and slashing and burning of food crops are the more controversial parts of Sherman's march.
Hundreds of "freed" slaves starved to death trying to follow Sherman's army. Thousands more civilians, especially in South Carolina, starved to death. Charleston went from one of the biggest and brightest stars of modern civilization to total ruin; it took 150 years for the city to rebuild to the point where people really want to live there again. It's one of the few coastal cities on the east coast that people actually like visiting.
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>>1246959 >True, only democrats have an interest in destroying their own party's history You know the parties switched right? You ignorant fuck.
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>>1247587 You mean Strom Thurmond?
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The /pol/ppet fears Vox's superior graphic designer proving the parties switched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8VOM8ET1WU Also it's funny because of how much more overtly racist and authoritarian the Republicans have gotten under Trump.
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>>1247592 which states were in the confederacy and what are there current voting records, can you remind me
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>>1247595 Wasn't the KKK founded by Democrats?
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>>1247584 >I'm pretty sure the murder of civilians Was never a part of Sherman's orders.
>killing of livestock To feed the army
>and slashing and burning of food crops He had an army living off the land. He wasn't burning food he could take. Are you fucking insane?
As you said, some people marching with him starved. Why the fuck would they burn crops? There already wasn't enough food to go around.
God damn you Confederate dipshits love to make shit out to be worse than it was so you can play the victim.
>Charleston went from one of the biggest and brightest stars of modern civilization to total ruin Yeah. That's what an almost 2 year siege combined with a massive fire will do.
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>modern civilization >slavers Lmao.
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>>1247574 Then fuck em. Last I checked, being put through starvation, disease, and detention isn't good for your mental development and being a victim never made anyone a moral authority.
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>>1247598 Why yes.
Yes it was.
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>>1247602 more specifically, by 6 former members of the confederate army, the army whose statues you're crying over the removal of
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>>1247600 >As you said, some people marching with him starved. Why the fuck would they burn crops? There already wasn't enough food to go around. People starved because he burned crops dumbfuck, but it doesn't surprise me that a Democrat has trouble understanding cause and effect.
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>>1247604 Conservatives are crying over the removal, who all moved to the Republican party after the great party realignment occurred after Liberals passed the Civil Rights Act.
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>>1247605 >People starved because he burned crops dumbfuck Why the fuck would starving people follow someone burning crops?
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>>1247606 >who all moved to the Republican party after the great party realignment Who did?
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>>1247598 Yes. They founded the KKK, the Confederacy, Jim Crow laws, the CIA which sold crack into black neighborhoods, and elected Joe "you ain't black" Biden.
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>>1247161 Welcome to post Trump America
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>>1247163 >The confederates were Democrats. End of discussion Then we will take our statues down. End of.
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>>1247189 Same word, different party. For instance modern dems are anti slavery, pro union while modern Republicans are pro slavery, pro confederacy. You're just making a semantics comparison. Not even an argument really. Like "look mommy these words are spelled the same" type of argument.
How old were you when your parents made that awkward trip to have you diagnosed with ASD, and were you an adult when this occurred?
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>>1247625 Actually it's same word, same party. Keep coping.
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>>1247628 Same word different party actually
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>>1247629 Let's see... yep, just checked. Still racist, still segregationist.
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You retards are living in the past. Die there.
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>>1247635 That's like the entire point of the conservative party. Live in the past and die trying.
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>>1247637 Libtard headcanon is wild
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>>1247639 Didn't ask, don't care
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>>1247643 No further input was required
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>>1247644 That's not what yo momma was saying
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>>1247620 All their voters.
Or is the next conservative trick to pretend it's the politicians only?
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>>1247672 To be fair 99.999% of conservatives have no problem acknowledging the parties flipped in the 60s-90s. The far right gaslighters ITT know that and are trying to derail the thread which is about their confederate hero states being taken down.
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>>1247674 >parties flipped in the 60s-90s Who, though?
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>>1247672 >All their voters. So the parties remained the same, but the sentiment among voters changed. That goes without saying, and happens every election cycle. That's not evidence of a party switch though.
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>>1247681 >In the 1964 presidential election, Republican Barry Goldwater won all four states that Thurmond had carried in 1948. In the 1968 presidential election, Republican Richard Nixon or third-party candidate George Wallace won every former Confederate state except Texas. Thurmond eventually left the Democratic Party and joined the Republican Party in 1964, charging the Democrats with having "abandoned the people" and having repudiated the U.S. Constitution; he subsequently worked on the presidential campaign of Barry Goldwater.[29] Within the next few decades, a realignment took place whereby most conservatives (economic, cultural, and racial conservatives included) migrated to the Republican Party, with liberals on the same issues going to the Democrats, resulting in more heterogenous national platforms. The Southern states subsequently shifted over time to voting mainly Republican, with the Northeast switching to voting mainly Democratic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dixiecrat#Legacy Anonymous
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>>1247705 >In American politics, the Southern strategy was a Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters in the South by appealing to racism against African Americans. As the civil rights movement and dismantling of Jim Crow laws in the 1950s and 1960s visibly deepened existing racial tensions in much of the Southern United States, Republican politicians such as presidential candidate Richard Nixon and Senator Barry Goldwater developed strategies that successfully contributed to the political realignment of many white, conservative voters in the South who had traditionally supported the Democratic Party. It also helped to push the Republican Party much more to the right relative to the 1950s. By winning all of the South a presidential candidate could obtain the presidency with minimal support elsewhere. >The phrase "Southern Strategy" refers primarily to "top down" narratives of the political realignment of the South which suggest that Republican leaders consciously appealed to many white Southerners' racial grievances to gain their support. This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. The scholarly consensus is that racial conservatism was critical in the post-Civil Rights Act realignment of the Republican and Democratic parties, though several aspects of this view have been debated by historians and political scientists. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy Anonymous
>>1247712 Oh, some libshits wrote something on Wikipedia? Ok then. I was reading over some of that fanfic yesterday. I thought the libshit myth about George Wallace's wife was particularly cute.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/7fwe7f/til_that_lurleen_wallace_could_not_seek/ >References back to Wikipedia >Wikipedia provides no reference Circular made up bullshit. This is what you base your ideology on. You should be fucking ashamed.
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>>1247717 Nothing's stopping you from going directly to the wikipedia sources tardboy.
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>>1247722 There isn't one, dumbfuck.
References aren't needed when it fits libshit narratives.
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>>1247723 It's at the bottom of the page, or you can click on the reference numbers. But you retard rightwingers live in an alternate reality fabricated by rightwing elites, so anything that goes against your hivemind narrative is fake news to you.
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>>1247717 Pretty much this.
>Within the next few decades, a realignment took place whereby most conservatives (economic, cultural, and racial conservatives included) migrated to the Republican Party, with liberals on the same issues going to the Democrats, resulting in more heterogenous national platforms. The Southern states subsequently shifted over time to voting mainly Republican, with the Northeast switching to voting mainly Democratic. Citation needed.
> This top-down narrative of the Southern Strategy is generally believed to be the primary force that transformed Southern politics following the civil rights era. Citation needed.
Goldwater lost his bid. The southern strategy was a flash in the pan. To claim otherwise is editorializing.
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>>1247724 >It's at the bottom of the page Retarded lying faggot. Link it then. Link me the source for George Wallace not telling his wife she had cancer. Btfo lying faggot.
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>>1247726 >Nixon was never elected Is a bold claim.
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>>1247824 >Nixon and Goldwater are the same >Goldwater purportedly did not like Richard Nixon on either a political or personal level, later calling the California Republican "the most dishonest individual I have ever met in my life". Accordingly, he played little part in Nixon's election or administration, but he helped force Nixon's resignation in 1974. Is this another liberalism?
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>>1247724 There's absolutely no way we're still here arguing the "but muh liberals were the real confederates" meme with these fucking conservative knuckle draggers. This is a joke, right?
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>>1247832 Wasn't Lincoln the first Republican president? The guy who went to war against the Confederacy?
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>>1247832 that's what happens when you argue with shameless third world shills
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>>1247844 Pretending to be obtuse and retarded isn't clever or funny.
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>>1248024 Then why do you guys keep doing it?
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>southern Democrats before 1940 >racist and pro segregation >aka the dixiecrats who left the Democrats in the 60s over civil rights and became… anybody?
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>>1247400 luckily in places where books aren't banned by conservative snowflakes, you still learn about slavery and the war in school, where it should be learned. we don't need to retain giant statues in places of honor and dignity of those villains who fought to perpetuate it.
those men are not to be revered in any way, their life and choices spat on what the united states represents and the ideals upon which it was founded.
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>>1247423 almost like there's a well known instance of the parties reshuffling names at some point...
you use this to attempt at some kind of dunk but don't mention how if you were alive back then you would happily call yourself a democrat and consider the republicans to be evil bastards who are destroying the country
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>>1246894 I think it’s a bad idea and cheapens us. The men who fought against the Confederates had more respect and less ill will towards them than people today. They sought to honor the dead and the sacrifices on both sides and erected these monuments to promote healing.
That being said I don’t really care about this country anymore so tear it all down.
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Not my problem. Just like how the USA is getting BTFO in the Sino sphere of influence