https://apnews.com/article/florida-desantis-transgender-law-trial-61639592d4c5e8512af3d3b078e40862 TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) — A federal judge hearing a challenge to a transgender health care ban for minors and restrictions for adults noted Thursday that Republican Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis repeatedly spread false information about doctors mutilating children’s genitals even though there’s been no such documented cases.
The law was sold as defending children from mutilation when it is actually about preventing trans children from getting health care, Judge Robert Hinkle said to Mohammad Jazil, a lawyer for the state.
“When I’m analyzing the governor’s motivation, what should I make of these statements?” Hinkle asked. “This seems to be more than just hyperbole.”
Hinkle said he will rule sometime in the new year on whether the Legislature, the Department of Health and presidential candidate DeSantis deliberately targeted transgender people through the new law. He raised some skepticism about the state’s motivation as lawyers gave their closing arguments.
The trial is challenging Florida’s ban on medical treatment for transgender children, such as hormone therapy or puberty blockers, a law DeSantis touted while seeking the presidency. The law also places restrictions on adult trans care.
Jazil said the motivation behind the law was simply public safety in an area that needs more oversight and can have permanent consequences.
“It’s about treating a medical condition; it’s not about targeting transgender individuals,” Jazil said.
Jazil added that if the state was targeting transgender people, it could have banned all treatment for adults and children. Hinkle quickly replied that Jazil would have trouble defending such a law.
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Hinkle, who was appointed by former President Bill Clinton, has temporarily blocked enforcement of the law as it pertains to minors, pending the outcome of the trial. The lawsuit also challenges restrictions placed on adult trans care, which have been allowed to take effect during the trial. At least 22 states have now enacted laws restricting or banning gender-affirming medical care for transgender minors, and many of those states face lawsuits. Courts have issued mixed rulings, with the nation’s first law, in Arkansas, struck down by a federal judge who said the ban on care violated the due process rights of transgender youth and their families. Enforcement is blocked in two states besides Florida, and enforcement is currently allowed in or set to go into effect soon in seven other states. Thomas Redburn, a lawyer representing trans adults and the families of trans children, said DeSantis and the Legislature have shown a pattern of targeting transgender people. He listed other recent laws that affect the community, including restrictions on pronoun use in schools, the teaching of gender identification in schools, restrictions on public bathrooms and the prohibition of trans girls from playing girls sports.
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>>1249105 WTF is transhealth? Sounds bad for you like transfats.
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>>1249105 >no such documented cases O rlly
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>>1249105 >He listed other recent laws that affect the community, including restrictions on pronoun use in schools, the teaching of gender identification in schools, restrictions on public bathrooms and the prohibition of trans girls from playing girls sports. These are all good laws. They should make a law requiring a proper cure for the trans mental illness as well.
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>>1249111 A law that won't make any impact because the problem doesn't even exist MUST BE OVER TURNED!!!
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>>1249131 Isn't Jazz Jennings a famous TV troon that got surgery in Florida? Not a single case? Not even ONE?
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>>1249133 He was 18 at the time. But stated many times he struggles with mental illness well before committing medical self-harm.
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>>1249139 Ok, fair enough - the troon got surgery in New York.
>>1249143 Jazz was 17 during the first surgery.
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>>1249146 You're missing that he had to go to NYC because Florida is a backwards wasteland stuck in a previous century
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>>1249229 Get a load of this weirdo who wants to mutilate boy dicks. Stay away from kids weirdo.
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>>1249305 How did you get "he wants to mutilate boy dicks" out of "Florida is a backwards wasteland"? The mental gymnastics involved are olympic level.
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>>1249306 From context of this discussion you twit.
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>>1249307 Not really. You are obsessed with trannies for whatever reason. Do you even know why or have you not self reflected that much?
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>>1249309 People who self-harm are weird. People who self-harm with the help of the medical establishment with the blessing of all mainstream media are terrifying.
Also NTA.
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>>1249310 still no real policies eh
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>>1249310 I seriously doubt you've ever encountered a tranny IRL and I similarly doubt any live near you. Lots of people who live very far away from you do all kinds of weird things with their bodies. What's even weirder is you choose to focus on those specific trans people more than say the people who tattoo themselves so much you can't see natural skin anymore.
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>>1249311 Policy: develop real treatments for insane self-harmers.
Do not promote self-harm.
Do not promote being weird.
Do not give positive reinforcement to insane behavior.
Where don't you see a policy?
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>>1249314 but people hate you when you dictate what happens in their personal space. be my guest, though, irrelevant
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>>1249312 This isn't even an argument. It's also shitty bets you've lost.
>the people who tattoo themselves so much you can't see natural skin anymore. Se we agree those people are nuts, and look weird. For some reason there's pushback when it's obviously a man in women's clothing for no reason.
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>>1249317 you pretend to be against homosexuality while promoting a nation that has penal assfuck battalions. clown
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>>1249319 Didn't they get bombed and died?
I wonder if that was intentional. Probably since fags are literally AIDS.
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>>1249316 People also hate you when you're weird in public spaces.
And the mentally insane should not be allowed to mutilate their bodies. This is so fucking rudimentary.
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>>1249322 yes, only shall the strong mutilate their bodies with the ultimate goal of crushing the west. faggot
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>>1249107 >Sounds bad for you like transfats. I like my Trans thin and YUGE.
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>>1249322 >false information about doctors mutilating children’s genitals even though there’s been no such documented cases. Why do you need to compulsively lie, faggot?
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>>1249345 I'll assume you didn't mean to reply to me.
However, I'll point out that even if there are zero documented cases, there's no reason to prevent possible future cases unless one were intending to create cases of such behavior in the future.
Imagine being against a law that does nothing because the problem doesn't exist. Why even bother?
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>>1249345 >accuses others of lying while lying libshits are pathological
>The Komodo analysis of insurance claims found 56 genital surgeries among patients ages 13 to 17 with a prior gender dysphoria diagnosis from 2019 to 2021. Among teens, “top surgery” to remove breasts is more common. In the three years ending in 2021, at least 776 mastectomies were performed in the United States on patients ages 13 to 17 with a gender dysphoria diagnosis, according to Komodo’s data analysis of insurance claims. This tally does not include procedures that were paid for out of pocket. Anonymous
>>1249350 how many young people with a presumptive future people died storming a trash heap in the name of your twisted ideology today.
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>>1249352 what are you even babbling about? take your meds.
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>>1249359 everyone hate you and your spam is unwelcome
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>>1249359 >everyone hates you and your spam is unwelcome Anonymous
what hrt does to a mf:
>>1249364 Anonymous
>>1249105 desantis is the good guy for banning 'genderqueer' from schools
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>>1249369 anything is better than your death cult, shill/5th columnist
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>>1249350 No legal minor has ever received sexual reassignment surgery in the U.S. Form whatever argument you want. You think trans people are icky. That's great. There's no use lying though. We all have google.
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>>1249314 >Where don't you see a policy? A list of things you don't like is not a policy.
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>>1249105 >>1249350 >>1249348 >>1249370 >>1249375 >>1249371 The /news/ mod is an actually trans activist who censored a current news story (which did not break any rules) in order to cover up for a public school secretly grooming a girl to become trans
https://i.imgur.com/vxuTJMW.png >school secretly convinces 8th grade girl that she's a boy >doesn't tell the parents about it >takes steps to prevent the parents from finding out >/news/ moderator gets triggered hard and deletes the thread despite it not breaking any rules Anonymous
>>1249388 Is this the girl boy that killed herself and the parents found out after the fact that the school was hiding her mental illnesses from them?
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>>1249388 Is this all you could brainstorm in your discord?
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>>1249388 mods also deleted the story about democrats clapping cheeks in the senate building
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>>1249396 >>1249393 >>1249392 >Tranny janny deleted the comment already LMAO xhe is absolutely SEETHING over this! Looks like it touched a nerve.
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>>1249402 tbh it's more shocking that there's even a mod on duty here
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>>1249402 Standard, really for a /news/ mod.
Delete shit for no reason and don't even give a warning/reason.
Xe is probably sad nobody wants to spend the holiday with zer
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>>1249404 Maybe it's a new mod. I'll keep on eye on future groomer-related posts
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>>1249131 >A law that won't make any impact because the problem doesn't even exist MUST BE OVER TURNED!!! As mentioned in the article, the law blocks things other than bottom surgery. In fact, the problem seems to be the law was sold as targeting bottom surgery and *only* blocks other things.
It's a bit like having a law that was sold as targeting grooming and sexualization that only targets other things.
It's like Florida is run by incompetent bigots or something.
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Some of the jannies on here are posters and will get buttmad and ban you if you btfo them in an argument.
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I can't imagine what the projecting pidors said to actually get banned
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>>1249375 But they are policies when people are supporting, advertising and advocating for self-harm.
So maybe stop? Admit trans isn't a positive lifestyle. Don't teach kids about trans or faggots.
You know these are little things that people never had to start pushing. If trannies and faggots didn't want to be weird they should act like everyone else.
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>>1249113 How are you supposed to cure something that empirically isn't a mental illness to begin with?
>>1249437 Are you done arguing in bad faith?
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>>1249616 >A man who thinks he's a woman >Mentally ill Pick both. Being this far removed from reality is a serious mental illness
>But muh heckin experts lie for political reasons so it's not a mental illness somehow! I identify as an expert and I say that a man who believes he is a woman is mentally ill
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>>1249616 >How are you supposed to cure something that empirically isn't a mental illness to begin with? With their endless supply of salt.
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>>1249618 Oh but of course anon, every single replicated scientific study must surely be a grand conspiracy against you if it goes against your personal beliefs.
I wonder what kind of "political reasons" would warrant such a multi-layered hoax operation in your little schizo cartoon world. lol this should be good.
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>>1249620 >every single replicated scientific study Oh, you ain't heard?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Replication_crisis Anonymous
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>>1249616 >empirically isn't a mental illness Are we going to do the semantics thing again? Really?
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Nothing to do with the news story, but this map is retarded. It incorrectly lables Punta Gorda as Port Charlotte, dispute them both being on opposite sides of the 2nd biggest harbor in the state.
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>>1249416 All of the jannies here are Jewish and rape kids. I’m not a betting man but I’m sure they mod tranny R3ddit boards too.