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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:14:47 No.1261243 View View Reply Original Report

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Revise your hypothesises....NOW!!!

The universe might be younger than we think, galaxies' motion suggests
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By Keith Cooper published 1 day ago
We think the universe is 13.8 billion years old, but could we be wrong?

https://www.space.com/universe-younger-than-thought-galaxy-motion

The universe could be younger than we think, based on the motions of satellite galaxies that reveal how recently they have fallen into a galaxy grouping.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:15:55 No.1261244 Report

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According to measurements of the cosmic microwave background radiation (CMB) by the European Space Agency's Planck mission, the universe is about 13.8 billion years old. This calculation is based on what's known as the Standard Model of cosmology, which describes a flat universe dominated by dark energy and dark matter and which is expanding at an accelerating rate.

The Standard Model is then used as a basis for supercomputer simulations that can depict the growth of large-scale structure in the universe — galaxies, galaxy clusters and huge chains and walls of galaxies.

However, these models have now run afoul of new measurements of the motions of pairs of galaxies that don't tally with what the simulations are telling us.

In a new study, astronomers led by Guo Qi from the National Astronomical Observatories of the Chinese Academy of Sciences studied pairs of satellites in galaxy groups.

Galaxy groups are small collections of galaxies, such as our own Local Group, in which a few large galaxies are joined by a swarm of smaller ones. Like larger galaxy clusters, these galaxy groups form where filaments in the cosmic web of matter that spans the universe meet, with smaller galaxies moving along the filaments before falling into a group.

Using observations made by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey (SDSS) of 813 galaxy groups within about 600 million light-years from Earth, Qi's team focused on the most massive galaxy in each group and measured how pairs of satellites on opposite sides of that galaxy moved.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:17:17 No.1261245 Report

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They found that the fraction of satellite galaxies that were counter-rotating with respect to each other — in other words, orbiting the large galaxy in opposite directions — is higher than predicted by computer simulations of large-scale structure, such as the Millennium Simulation and the Illustris TNG300 model, which are both based on the Standard Model as described by the Planck mission.

This is a natural state of affairs if the satellites have just fallen into orbit around the larger galaxy of the group. But over time, galaxy groups and clusters should reach a dynamically relaxed state, with most satellites co-rotating. If galaxy groups and clusters coalesced when the Standard Model suggests they should have, then the fraction of counter-rotating satellites should be smaller. The fact that they are a greater fraction of satellites is a problem for the Standard Model.

“We found in the SDSS data that satellite galaxies are just accreting/falling into the massive groups, with a stronger signal of ongoing assembly compared to simulations with Planck parameters,” Qi told Space.com in an email.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:18:26 No.1261246 Report

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“We found in the SDSS data that satellite galaxies are just accreting/falling into the massive groups, with a stronger signal of ongoing assembly compared to simulations with Planck parameters,” Qi told Space.com in an email.

In other words, it seems that the satellite galaxies have only recently fallen into their respective groups.

“This suggests that the universe is younger than that suggested by the Planck observations of the CMB,” said Qi. “Unfortunately, this work cannot estimate the age of the universe in a quantitative manner.”

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:26:50 No.1261252 Report

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i don't think you're able to use science to illegitimate science

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:26:51 No.1261253 Report

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Interesting, but the Chinese have a problem with standard measurements.
I doubt they can be trusted with complex measurements.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:28:38 No.1261256 Report

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>>1261243
>When Cletus misinterprets Science stories

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:29:12 No.1261257 Report

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>>1261252
Actually, that's how science works and is the entire point of the scientific method.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:30:11 No.1261258 Report

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>>1261257
yeah, scientific method. not ecclesiastical method

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:31:14 No.1261261 Report

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>>1261258
Oooh, we've got an atheist (jew) here!
Nice post. How's that fedora tipping going, buddy?
Great! Nice talking with ya!

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:32:15 No.1261262 Report

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this board really is something else

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:35:00 No.1261264 Report

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>>1261261
>atheist (jew)
How chuds have convinced themselves this makes sense is beyond my powers of comprehension.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:41:28 No.1261269 Report

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>>1261264
Maybe it's because every major atheist talking point mirrors every bit of jewish activism?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:46:13 No.1261271 Report

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>>1261269
was turning this into a boilerplate stormfag thread your goal the whole time or did you do that because you lost the argument right away

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:50:36 No.1261273 Report

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>>1261271
Lost what argument? This is a statement of facts.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:51:34 No.1261274 Report

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too much retardation for me. i need a break. to the non-shills, remember this place is a joke

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:53:35 No.1261275 Report

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>>1261273
Your alternative facts aren't real.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:55:44 No.1261277 Report

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>>1261275
I'm going to have to ask you to denounce the Talmud before replying to me, thanks.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:55:51 No.1261278 Report

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>>1261273
you talk like a fag, and your shit's all retarded

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 20:57:40 No.1261280 Report

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>>1261277
Do you feel persecuted? Do you feel like a victim?

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 21:01:01 No.1261282 Report

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>>1261243
Why does it matter if the universe is younger than 13.8 billion years old?

Prove God exists

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 21:01:44 No.1261283 Report

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They just suck at hypothesis. Its more likely waaaaaay older then they ever suspected possibly even infinite and they fail to see the motions of matter interact in differing ways independent of just flying threw space like lifeless solid rocks :(

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 22:30:32 No.1261321 Report

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>>1261243
>You science faggots don't have every answer to every question, therefore one of a hundred versions of a compilation of stories written by sand niggers two millennia ago that I have never read is the absolute truth
Sad

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 22:39:10 No.1261329 Report

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>>1261282
Prove communism works first.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 22:45:07 No.1261332 Report

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>>1261329
Stay on topic retard

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 22:48:02 No.1261335 Report

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>>1261332
So you can't. Concession accepted.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Jan 2024 23:05:23 No.1261351 Report

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>>1261335
This is some Ben Shapiro level faggotry

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 00:01:58 No.1261377 Report

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>>1261277
nta, but I denounce both the talmud, and the Bible, which is just fanfiction derived from the talmud. You are a clown for thinking that Christianity isn't jewish.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:23:08 No.1261490 Report

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>>1261377
Anti semite.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:25:07 No.1261492 Report

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>>1261377
Ya goyim don't even know what da Talmud is.
Silly goyim goyim practices the Talmud without even knowin' it.
P.S. I got your foreskin.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:28:17 No.1261493 Report

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I wish I was blissfully ignorant enough to take up arms over fiction from thousands of years ago. Seems real easy, just do what you're told.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 04:31:56 No.1261495 Report

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>>1261493
The Talmud has nothing to do with the Bible or the Hebrew Bible, you fucking mong.
It's the book that allows the jews to trick God.
For instance:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eruv
The Talmud is a collection of jewish tricks.
Your the fucking atheist trash that that only shits on Christianity because that's all you know.
Come to terms to with the fact that you're not an atheist, but mad at your father and your think it's God's fault already, you little shit.
Or become an actual atheist and know what the Talmud is.

im smart, i copy/pasted

im smart, i copy/pasted Sat 27 Jan 2024 10:11:41 No.1261527 Report

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Perhaps instead of 13.8E+9 age universe it could be 12.6E+9 years old :) Using cosmology calculators varying H0 67 km/s/Mpc to 73 km/s/Mpc or higher, gets a much younger universe age too. We could now enjoy reports on stars older than the universe or globular clusters older than the universe. This problem of dating the age of the universe and dating the oldest objects in it goes way back in science when reviewing past reports. In the past H0 indicated a universe about 1-2E+9 years while rocks were dated 3E+9 years old.

im mental, i just make this stuff up, like the scientists

im mental, i just make this stuff up, like the scientists Sat 27 Jan 2024 10:24:26 No.1261531 Report

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>>1261527
The problem begins with the big bang hypothesis, which suggests that the universe has an age. If we get rid of this hypothesis, in favor of the one that the universe is and, has not ceased to be a "black hole", which, due to its size, has a not very high density in most of its volume, and so in fact in these parts , there is matter and conditions that we define as normal. Of course, since in the outer regions the gravity from the center is less and less effective, they expand at an increasingly high rate.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 16:07:18 No.1261578 Report

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>>1261264

Because nimrods are lazy and uncreative.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 16:11:12 No.1261579 Report

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>>1261495

Hard to trick an omniscent being tho'. That they have to pat themselves on the back like that comes off as a culture ripened with anxiety for being dishonest.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Jan 2024 16:14:55 No.1261581 Report

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>>1261579
I wonder how many more thousands of years before people stop obsessing over what Jewish boomers think in private

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Anonymous Tue 30 Jan 2024 15:10:11 No.1262303 Report

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>>1261269
Was your Jewish boss mean to you today, hoss?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Feb 2024 19:22:57 No.1263172 Report

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this board is fucking shit, OP is a dumb fucking cunt also.

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