Haynes v. United States, 390 U.S. 85 (1968), criminals are exempt from all gun registration laws under 5th amendment grounds. The single goal of gun registry is mass confiscation like it was in UK, NZ and Aus.
https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_1bdb8246-cc4c-11ee-b9e4-e3a75e3cff54.html >California proposes annual tax and registration on each gun in the state By Kenneth Schrupp | The Center Square Feb 15, 2024
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(The Center Square) - The California legislature introduced a proposal to require gun owners in the state to pay an annual tax and register each gun they own. Failure to register and pay the tax would carry up to a $250 fine.
Given that the state can provide personal identifying information of California gun owners to “researchers” of “gun violence, " this measure would effectively create an accessible registry of all California gun owners and their weapons.
State Sen. Anthony J. Portantino, D-Burbank, introduced SB 1160 as a public safety measure.
“SB 1160 will give the state better data and help us understand how many firearms are in private hands and who owns them,” said Portantino in a statement. “This important step toward registration will also increase accountability and responsible gun ownership as we collectively endeavor to increase public safety.”
Second Amendment advocates are already lining up to oppose the bill, with Gun Owners of California, a plaintiff in many of the cases against the state’s gun laws, proclaiming, “In yet another half-brained scheme to tax our constitutionally protected right, [Portantino] introduced SB1160 which requires CA gun owners to annually re-register their firearms with the DOJ. We can't wait to defeat this one!”
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GOC is already challenging a new law requiring gun dealers to maintain 24/7 camera and audio footage for one year, a move they say violates several constitutional rights by requiring extensive video and audio surveillance in gun shops, shows, and the homes of federal firearm licensees. California gun owners are also appealing an earlier lower level federal ruling that allowed the state, as authorized under AB 173, to share personal data on gun owners — including gun owners' names, address and ages — with any “bona fide research institution” for the purposes of studying gun violence prevention, shooting accidents, and suicides. Opposition to the measure focused on potential for chilling gun ownership and the consequences for violating citizens’ privacy. “Information about citizens choosing to exercise a politically divisive, controversial or unpopular constitutional right “must be protected in a way that assures anonymity,” because an individual may become “reluctant” to exercise her right “if there exists a possibility that her decision and identity will become known publicly,” wrote the lawyers representing the anonymous plaintiffs against California Attorney General Rob Bonta. “Moreover, once Defendant discloses the Personal Information maintained on the Databases, there is no legal remedy against the recipients of that information in the event of any subsequent unauthorized disclosure.” Facebook Twitter Email PrintCopy article link Save Kenneth Schrupp Kenneth Schrupp Reporter
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I think we should do this for other rights. if you want an abortion, to be gay, to be a tranny, to be a drag queen, or own or make rap music, to be jewish, to be muslim, to speak spanish or to speak arabic you need to register and pay a tax and that registry will be open for everyone else in the state to read
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>>1268002 >or own or make rap music average /pol/schizo
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>>1268009 the majority of gun murders are done by individuals who listen to rap
as a person of color, i only shoot other people of color because i want their shoes
as a person of color, i only shoot other people of color because i want their shoes Sun 18 Feb 2024 04:03:49 No. 1268015 Report >>1268014 dis be troof!
but what is your chance of being kit by a bother, white boy?
more likely you gonna be kilt by a white road rager or a white mass shooter
Anonymous
>>1268015 white mass shooters kill fewer than 100 people per year, so my odds of being killed by a white mass shooter is low as shit
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>>1268020 >assuming proper statistics are kept by racist police officers >after 2020 KEK
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>>1268000 >https://www.thecentersquare.com/ WTF is this shit?
>The Center Square is a project of the Franklin News Foundation (formerly called the Franklin Center for Government and Public Integrity).[6] Columbia Journalism Review in 2012 called the Franklin Center "perhaps the most ambitious conservative news organization you’ve never heard of", said its productivity was "impressive," and noted the original news reporting produced by websites it funded in 18 states at the time.[1] The Franklin Center, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization, received 95% of its 2011 revenue from mostly anonymous benefactors via the donor-advised fund Donors Trust, which is a major source of funding for conservative groups.[2]
Ahh so it's the Project Veritas people under a different name. Fucking thinktanks, always trying to disguise themselves as news orgs.
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>>1268032 Do you work for Donors Trust or do you work for free?
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>>1268000 >he single goal of gun registry is mass confiscation like it was in UK, NZ and Aus. Which couldn't happen due to 2nd Amendment grounds. Your dipshittery isn't even self-consistent.
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>>1268000 good. this might be enough to swing CA voters to the right finally.
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>>1268145 it's facebook-tier misleading news promoted by a think tank so probably not
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>>1268146 Eh, facebook-tier misleading news promoted by a think tank got California to dick over Uber drivers and got their high speed rail delayed by years, so you never know.
Anonymous
>>1268145 lol. no. California has a fulltime propaganda machine in place, along with questionable voting practices that will keep it blue forever.
Anonymous
>>1268151 >questionable voting practices If Republican Ideas were popular they could win CA's primary system.
If anything we should bring that sort of anti-Affirmative Action in voting to other states.
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>>1268143 Biden says he thinks heller is wrong and that owning guns is not an individual right. The idea that heller was wrong and guns aren't an individual right and that the second dems get 5 dem judges on the court they can overturn it is a mainstream dem idea. hell california and hawaii both don't think the 2nd amendment even applies to them with hawaii saying the spirit of aloha and the wire mean owning guns is not an individual right and they can disobey the scotus.
So no, I do not trust the dems with a registry
>>1268055 >no anyone who doesn't agree with me that guns should be banned is a shill reeeeeeeeee Anonymous
Anonymous
>>1268158 california lets illegals vote. and jungle primaries wouldn't change the voting results in most states since most states are very republican
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>>1268172 >california lets illegals vote awww, the retard is conflating towns letting all residents vote with letting anyone vote in federal elections.
That sort of turbo-retardation is required to believe that the country is majority Republican, despite all the evidence to the contrary.
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>>1268177 if you eliminate california, which is not American, trump got more votes than clinton in 2016 and more votes than brandon in 2020. cope, you chinese faggot
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>>1268178 aw, look, it's retarded
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>>1268178 100% not true lol
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>>1268178 If you eliminate Trump, then Clinton got more votes than Trump in 2016 and Biden got more votes in 2020 either way.
Cope harder.
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>>1268181 look you are a chinese shill
>>1268182 in 2016 clinton won the popular vote by 2,868,686 and won california by 4,269,978. Meaning Trump won the popular vote in all the real states
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>>1268186 Alternatively, Trump lost the popular vote every single time going by the actual data instead of Republicunt faggot logic.
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>>1268187 californians aren't people, let alone Americans, so their votes shouldnt count
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>>1268188 your posts are scrumptiously low quality
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>>1268188 Cope and Seethe harder about it.
If you keep bitching hard enough, maybe Blue America will stop subsidizing you faggots and let you starve to death.
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>>1268190 california receives fuck tons of gibs from the government for their tech industry
>>1268189 you are the one trying to shit up the thread because its showing dems are gun grabbers. you try to shit up every thread that shows how evil dems are because you are a paid shill
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>>1268191 Creating a gun registry doesn't violate the 2nd amendment at all, despite your schizo paranoia.
If you can't accept that than you're literally too deranged to have a conversation.
>california receives fuck tons of gibs And yet they still manage to give back about twice as much, as opposed to red leeches who can't survive without sucking the government teat
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>>1268193 >Creating a gun registry doesn't violate the 2nd amendment at all, cool, lets register all jews then since it doesn't violate the 1st amendment. a registry does literally nothing to prevent crime because criminals are exempt from gun registries and cannot be charged with no registering guns.
> despite your schizo paranoia. >If you can't accept that than you're literally too deranged to have a conversation. anyone who doesn't agree with me is mentally ill, just ignore the fact that NZ, AUS and UK all used their registries for mass confiscation.
>And yet they still manage to give back about twice as much, lol no, you only get those numbers by cherry picking what counts as gibs and what doesn't
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>>1268191 Your opinions are useless but you sure are an entertaining fool
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>>1268195 you aren't even American and your opinions are all retarded. you think a man in a dress is a woman
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>>1268194 So you literally don't understand the constitution?
You're either too retarded to breathe or a russian shill
>just ignore the fact that NZ, AUS and UK all used their registries for mass confiscation Registries naturally leading to confiscation makes as much sense as gun ownership naturally leading to murders, so by your logic we don't need the registry since we should just pre-emptively lock up anyone owning a gun.
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>>1268198 >So you literally don't understand the constitution? the second amendment is not a second class right. if gun registries are fine then so are registering people based on religion. since both are equal rights.
>You're either too retarded to breathe or a russian shill so you don't have an argument and cut your dick off.
>Registries naturally leading to confiscation makes as much sense as gun ownership naturally leading to murders, so by your logic we don't need the registry since we should just pre-emptively lock up anyone owning a gun. you are using retard logic and trying to strawman. it must be because you have no dick. what purpose could a registry serve, other than confiscation, when the scotus has already said criminals are exempt from gun registries?
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>>1268200 >what purpose could a registry serve, other than confiscation, when the scotus has already said criminals are exempt from gun registries? You're making a paranoid schizo leap here. This is where your retardation lies, try to figure it out.
While you're at it, better hide your car. We have a national car registration, so the feds are obviously coming for it.
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>>1268200 For someone so passionate about the second amendment, its clear you have no idea what it says or how it works
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>>1268202 the governor of california and the president have said multiple times they want to ban and confiscate semi autos. pretty funny you can't think of a single use case for a registry
>>1268204 the second amendment is not a second class right. surely you have 3 examples of gun registries from 1790 or 1868
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>>1268207 The second amendment doesn't prohibit gun registries in any form.
You're only pretending it does because your schizo brain thinks it'll immediately lead to confiscation.
If gun registries were unconstitutional, then we wouldn't have any open carry permit registrations since that automatically leads to a defacto registry.
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>>1268197 >obsessing over trannies thanks for letting us know you're a shill
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>>1268210 >The second amendment doesn't prohibit gun registries in any form. please show me the law from 1790 or 1868 where it allows gun registries
>You're only pretending it does because your schizo brain thinks it'll immediately lead to confiscation again insults, but no argument because you have no argument, because you are a tranny
>If gun registries were unconstitutional, then we wouldn't have any open carry permit registrations since that automatically leads to a defacto registry. you mean concealed carry. I don't think many states have open carry permits. and a permit to carry a gun concealed is not the same thing as having to register each individual gun.
why don't we register jews, muslims and every lgbtq book?
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>>1268212 >please show me the law from 1790 or 1868 where it allows gun registries lmao, I accept your concession.
Gun Registries don't go against the second amendment and you know it.
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>>1268213 you must be an actual chinese shill. Per bruen, a gun law is only constitutional if there are 3 analogous examples of gun laws from the time of the bill of rights or the time of the 14th amendment and its up to the state to prove this in court. What registries existed in 1790 or 1868?
And again, you still have not explained what the purpose of a registry is, if not for confiscation or to deny people the right to own guns via taxation.
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>>1268217 See
>>1268213 feel free to declare victory against the voices in your head though Anonymous
>>1268213 you know you're arguing with a violent schizophrenic, right
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>>1268219 again, no actual argument and you can't answer the question
>>1268220 samefag
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>>1268219 oh, you do know. very well
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Gun-grabbers are not interested in honest debate. They know very well their position is founded on lies. Tyrants don't care about truth, only power.
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>>1268502 You people do this every presidential election year. No one is buying your persecuted shtick.
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just like they confiscated all your cars right? remember when bush jr was supposedly going to make all cars federal property because they could be used to drive into federal buildings by terrorists? I love bringing up old right winger conspiracies. shits hilarious watching them scramble to explain it away
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>>1268572 The feds broke into my house, shot my dog, stole my gas stove, then shot my dead dog again.
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>>1268573 The feds broke into my house, got shot, lit on fire by my gas stove, then bit by my dog and shot again.
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>>1268002 The funny thing is that trannies specifically are fighting to make it impossible to look up who they used to be and what crimes they committed then.
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>>1268031 Veritas did great work and you know it because they're still a Boogeyman to you, lol. /pol/ should visit this board to educate you more often.
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>>1268210 Unironically this is part of the reason why permitless carry keeps winning lmao.
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>>1268696 Get a job, James.
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>>1268698 You're still a man, "Alice".
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>>1268695 thank god tireless anti-troon crusaders like you are constantly monitoring what 0.6% of the population are doing
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>>1268699 Good, I'm not trying to be a woman, O'queef.
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