>However, the conservatively biased media is still manipulating the public to believe crime is going up to help republicans. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/us-crime-rate-still-dropping-says-fbi-rcna144100 New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in the U.S. declined significantly in 2023, continuing a post-pandemic trend and belying widespread perceptions that crime is rising.
The new fourth-quarter numbers showed a 13% decline in murder in 2023 from 2022, a 6% decline in reported violent crime and a 4% decline in reported property crime. That’s based on data from around 13,000 law enforcement agencies, policing about 82% of the U.S. population, that provided the FBI with data through December.
“It suggests that when we get the final data in October, we will have seen likely the largest one-year decline in murder that has ever been recorded,” said Jeff Asher, a former CIA analyst who now studies crime trends.
In October, the FBI will release its final and most comprehensive look at crime in 2023.
In a statement on Tuesday, President Joe Biden called the new numbers "good news for the American people" and touted his efforts to combat gun violence.
"Keeping communities safe is my priority," he said. "While we've made major progress, we still have more work to do."
Attorney General Merrick Garland also issued a statement praising the drop in crime and noting that, in May 2021, the Justice Department launched a strategy aimed at addressing the spike in violent crime that occurred during the pandemic.
“Since then, our prosecutors, agents, and grant-making experts have worked in close partnership with police departments and communities across the country to go after the recidivists and gangs that are responsible for the greatest violence; to seize illegal guns and deadly drugs; to make critical investments in hiring more law enforcement officers; and to fund evidence-based, community violence intervention initiatives,” he said.
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As NBC News previously reported, the drop in crime does not appear to be well understood by large majorities of Americans, according to polls. A Gallup poll in December found that 77% of Americans believe crime rates are worsening. “The perception doesn’t match the actuality in a lot of places because people are bad at perceiving risk,” Asher said, adding that both traditional and social media tend to spotlight violence and disorder. Roman noted that it’s been since 2001 that a majority of Americans have continued to believe their communities are becoming more dangerous, even as crime was dropping. Roman also pointed out that “there is definitely more disorder in cities than there was five years ago. I don’t think that’s up for dispute.” However, he said, "People confuse disorder and crime, so the presence of a lot of disorder can signal to regular folks that they are in a dangerous place, when they aren’t necessarily in a dangerous place.” According to Roman, crime rates are at a point now where we are essentially back to the long-term trend from the last decade. “The question is will we go below it,” he said. “I think we will. We have made huge investments in community-based violence intervention that are really new and are of sufficient scale that they could change things. The downside is that we are facing a police staffing crisis that is very real.”
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This might have something to do with Democrats not encouraging civil unrest. There were no significant laws that can be pointed to passed nationwide, so that's likely the fix is Democrats simply not encouraging civil unrest.
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>>1280652 It certainly helps America doesn't a Republican fascist in the white house.
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>>1280654 learn your words there boy
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i aint listenin to your glownigger polls. Circlejerk somewhere else you fucking fags
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Don't talk about this. Get it off the catalog NOW!
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>>1280637 >New FBI data confirms previous indications that crime in the U.S. declined significantly in 2023 Yes, but how much did it increase during covid?
Also, how is crime declining when America has never had more guns circulating thru the population, with well over 400 million civilian owned guns (note: the total U.S. population is 333 million) and all except four states having "shall issue" concealed carry laws on the books?
After all, the Dems insist that more guns equal more crime and we need draconian gun control laws?
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>>1280675 >Yes, but how much did it increase during covid? Why would that matter? Things have gotten better since 2020, or do you think covid itself causes violent behavior?
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>>1280662 >Historically, "far-right politics" has been used to describe the experiences of fascism, Nazism, and Falangism. Contemporary definitions now include neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, the Third Position, the alt-right, racial supremacism and other ideologies or organizations that feature aspects of authoritarian, ultra-nationalist, chauvinist, xenophobic, theocratic, racist, homophobic, transphobic, or reactionary views. Anonymous
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>>1280683 If that dipshit could read, they'd be very upset.
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>>1280675 >Yes, but how much did it increase during covid? That's the key they want to leave out. Crimes rates are down, but not down to pre-covid levels, and they have no intention of ever making those comparisons.
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>>1280682 >>Yes, but how much did it increase during covid? >Why would that matter? Because crime rates skyrocketed during covid, so the "decrease" is only returning to previous levels.
>Things have gotten better since 2020, And yet there are far more guns in the U.S.
Forbes - U.S. Bought Almost 20 Million Guns Last Year
Jan 5, 2022 · Key Facts. Gun purchases didn't catch up to 2020’s record-breaking 22.8 million sales, but easily surpassed the pre-pandemic record of 16.7 million in 2016,
>or do you think covid itself causes violent behavior? No, Dems cause violent behavior.
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>>1280689 I don't think you understood my point.
>>1280694 >Because crime rates skyrocketed during covid *Why?* What improved thanks to who? Who let what get bad?
Are you claiming that the disease causes violent crime or are you claiming that the disease had a societal impact that has since been rectified by other forces? Who is responsible for those forces?
>And yet there are far more guns in the U.S. Gun ownership hasn't increased. Also, who the fuck brought up guns?
>No, Dems cause violent behavior. The number of Dems has increased.
3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics
3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics Fri 22 Mar 2024 13:59:57 No. 1280705 Report >>1280652 >This might have something to do with Democrats not encouraging civil unrest. No, it has to do with the liberals not laying charges against 1/2 of non violent criminals.
But then a small % of these criminals commit violent crimes, which are up
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>>1280683 >Source: my dilated necrovagina Anonymous
>>1280710 >I thought what I'd do is call him a tranny and shitpost a little since I don't have an argument I believe I will take that concession you just offered me, thanks.
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>>1280710 >brings up trannies unprompted >obsesses over bottom surgery how many pictures of trans genitalia do you have saved on your computer?
this particular right-wing obsession is fascinating to me
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>>1280694 So crime and guns proliferation explode under Republicans. Proof they're weak on crime and bad for America.
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>>1280637 > CIA analyst who now studies crime trends. wow, that is fucking worthless
>"Keeping communities safe is my priority," he said. that is a lie. he wouldn't have open borders then
>>1280638 they literally had to send the national guard to occupy the NYC subway since it is so dangerous
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>>1280675 all states except maybe hawaii have shall issue laws. also there are more than 400,000,000 guns
>>1280682 the covid increase was intentionally caused by defund the police and blm dems
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>>1280826 But the criminals were all Democrats. Weird.
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>>1280683 Nazism, fascism and authoritarianism are all left wing ideologies
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>>1280704 >Gun ownership hasn't increased. gun ownership increased significantly during 2020 and 2021. it was something like 1 in 5 new guns were sold to first time gun owners and there were like the 24 highest gun sale months ever recorded
>Also, who the fuck brought up guns? biden and OP see
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>>1280826 crimes in dem run cities that had BLM DAs exploded. San Francisco was so bad they recalled their BLM DA
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>>1280766 >>1280774 Clearly not seething trannies
Jews rape kids
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>>1280837 Don’t forget racism
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peak shill hours already?
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>>1280637 Basically stealing is no longer considered a crime, so there's less crime now!
Yay!
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>>1280832 >>1280836 >Republican cope for the fact that crime rose under their watch. Anonymous
>>1280892 >crime rose >but only in blue cities with blue mayors and blue DAs that pushed defund the police and cashless bail policies Anonymous
>>1280637 nonsense. Violent crime around here has gone up.
This is a blatant lie with no statistics to back it up.
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>>1280895 >Claims crime rose >Then says he's telling a blatant lie and has no stats to back it up. Conservatives are an adorable type of stupid when they aren't trying to murder you.
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>>1280914 Putin just staged a massive false flag attack and it got pushed out of the news by Princess Kate saying she has cancer.
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>>1280893 I'm sure you have the data to back that up and it's not cherry picked.
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>>1280904 >>1280936 a good stat to back up the massive hike in crime is the fact NYC how has the national guard in the subways because they are too dangerous and a bunch of major chains pulled out of black neighborhoods in black cities due to shoplifting
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>>1280637 Crime rates have only went down because they changed the statistics of what is a crime. Such as saying its not shoplifting till over 350 dollars of items were taken. Like many things the liberal and the Biden Administration spouts, it is lies and cooking the books, from unemployment to crime..
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>>1280939 >a good stat to back up the massive hike in crime is the fact NYC how has the national guard in the subways because they are too dangerous Violent crime in NYC is below the national average. That's just a political stunt.
>and a bunch of major chains pulled out of black neighborhoods in black cities due to shoplifting Also a stunt, in fact by far the most common form of theft in retail chains is wage theft.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/organized-retail-crime-trade-group-half-of-all-missing-merchandise/ Anonymous
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>>1280637 you mean crime goes down when progressive pro-crime policies are repealed? shocking
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>>1280939 So no data. Gotcha.
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>>1280943 >Crime rates have only went down because they changed the statistics of what is a crime. Such as saying its not shoplifting till over 350 dollars of items were taken. Like many things the liberal and the Biden Administration spouts, it is lies and cooking the books, from unemployment to crime.. But murder and violent crime fell the most. Property crime fell the least.
Also the law change you're referencing happened years ago and only changed it from a felony to a misdemeanor and only in a single state.
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>>1280945 >Violent crime in NYC is below the national average. based on what metric? manhattan has a blm DA who jacked up the rates he dismisses cases
>Also a stunt, in fact by far the most common form of theft in retail chains is wage theft. nooo ignore shoplifting and look at this other thing reeeeeeeeee
shoplifting is up so fucking high they are getting rid of self scans and stores now have everything behind glass
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>>1280943 >Republicans are so mindbroken that they making up lies like this to cope. Anonymous
>>1280950 >based on what metric? Criminal homicides for one, if you want to bitch about accounting. The national average is 6.3 per 100k. NYC's is 5.3 per 100k. That's over 15% lower. Let me guess though, you think NYC doctors have been reclassifying homicides as COVID deaths to lower the crime rate and increase the COVID death rate?
>shoplifting is up so fucking high they are getting rid of self scans Them constantly breaking down and people having trouble using them are why they're getting rid of self-scans. Shoplifters don't check out in the first damn place.
>and stores now have everything behind glass Has been a thing forever. Touch grass.
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>>1280956 >Criminal homicides for one, if you want to bitch about accounting. The national average is 6.3 per 100k. NYC's is 5.3 per 100k. That's over 15% lower. Let me guess though, you think NYC doctors have been reclassifying homicides as COVID deaths to lower the crime rate and increase the COVID death rate? NYC got caught lying about covid deaths because cuomo and murphy were purposely sending coofers into old people homes at the start of coof to try to kill as many olds as possible to make trump look bad and then when cuomo got audited he had his people lie about the numbers which even got aoc pissed. but then the whole thing went away because cuomo groped some woman so people thought grabbing some fat bitches tits was more important than the fact he murdered a bunch of olds.
>Them constantly breaking down and people having trouble using them are why they're getting rid of self-scans. Shoplifters don't check out in the first damn place. CITATION NEEDED
>Has been a thing forever. holy shit you are literally black and live in a black neighborhood
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>>1280958 >NYC got caught lying about covid deaths Lol. lmao. You're mad.
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>>1280961 I know. I brought up COVID specifically because I figured you'd go full conspiracy brain.
Congrats on not disappointing. God, you're a trained monkey.
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>>1280963 >bbc and cnbc are conspiracy theory outlets reeeeee are you retarded? it isn't a conspiracy theory, it was something that happened and was documented
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>>1280637 Inflation is down
Crime is down
The economy is strong
Biden is healthy
War is peace, chuds
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>>1280966 >We fixed part of the inflation we caused, the crime we caused, the economy is on the same track as it was before the Democrat shutdowns, and our president has had bouts of ass cancer and falls on TV quite often Nice list of achievements you have there
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>>1280948 >>1280956 Good posts.
>>1280965 Happened in Florida too.
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>>1280969 he was being sarcastic
>>1280970 >Good posts. samefag
>Happened in Florida too. nope. florida didn't intentionally send coofers into old people homes
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>>1280965 I didn't say the fucking COVID underreporting was a conspiracy. Why don't you think back to what this conversation was initially about? Criminal homicide. I just used COVID and NY in a sentence and you literally jumped at the chance to bring that shit up, even though it was about undercounting COVID deaths, not overcounting them.
By the way, Cuomo was the GOVERNOR. NYC and NY aren't the same thing. Fucking nutbag. I said jump instead of asking how high, you just hit the ceiling.
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>>1280984 you got blown the fuck out and now you are coping what. also cuomo gave the order to the whole state, retard. they had to count nyc and ny state separately on the CDC because of how bad of a job they did.
NYC is such a shithole they have the national guard on the subway. also you have no penis
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>>1280989 >you got blown the fuck out ...Yeah brah, you sure proved NYC's crime rate is high...wait
>NYC is such a shithole they have the national guard on the subway Does whatever shithole you live in even have a subway? Or a murder rate below the national average? My Republican run shithole is a no on both fronts.
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>>1280991 sounds like you live in a majority black city with a democrat mayor
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>>1280992 u lost the partisan brain rot.
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>>1280992 What part of Republican run didn't you understand? Also it's fucking whiter than the national average.
Also, I forgot to mock you for calling me dickless instead of saying I will never be a woman. You fucked up your script.
Also also, Cuomo ordering nursing homes to let in sick people and then covering up the resultant COVID deaths has literally fuck all to do with the violent crime rate in new york city and the original reference was about *inflating* COVID deaths. You literally heard a hypothetical about an entirely different level of government and jumped at your trigger words like a fucking sleeper agent.
Don't shoot any Kennedys running fo- actually, no feel free to do that.
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>>1280637 Crime is so down we have armed soldiers literally patrolling NYC now. Libtards actually believe these articles?
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>>1280996 the china virus china let out to help biden? the one that cuomo, a democrat used to murder people and then cover it up?
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>>1281001 Just like Florida.
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>>1280994 >What part of Republican run didn't you understand? Also it's fucking whiter than the national average. CITATION FUCKING NEEDED you dickless faggot
>Also also, Cuomo ordering nursing homes to let in sick people and then covering up the resultant COVID deaths has literally fuck all to do with the violent crime rate in new york city and the original reference was about *inflating* COVID deaths. You literally heard a hypothetical about an entirely different level of government and jumped at your trigger words like a fucking sleeper agent. Cuomo used coof to murder the olds and then when Trump sent the federal government to investigate it cuomo underreported because he thought he was going to get hanged for treason or murder. NYC is currently reporting murders as suicides
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>>1281003 Damn, why wasn't Florida investigated instead of their 3 year cover up?
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>>1281005 >>1281002 florida never faked covid numbers like nyc did after intentionally murdering olds
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>>1281006 >>1280996 Seems not to be the case as a partisan brain rot. I guess republicans truly are the party of corruption and grifting.
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>>1281007 and bad posts, don't forget that
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>>1281008 Violent crimes increased in 2020 under trump administration. Why do republicans encourage murders, sexual assault, and property crimes?
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>>1281010 >blue cities defund the police, add cashless bail and elect blm DAs who refuse to go after criminals >blue cities then allow blm riots to rape, steal, loot, burn, murder and eat human flesh >blue cities then blame trump for the crime that literally only increased in blue cities and states as a result of dem policies Anonymous
>>1281012 Republicans literally voted for higher crime rates.
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>>1281013 when did republicans vote for open borders, blm DAs, cashless bail, defund the police, legalized weed, legalized other drugs, ending hot pursuit, ect?
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>>1281012 >red hats are mostly made from china >say "MAGA" Anonymous
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>>1281017 All the time. you didn't read the article did you? Florida removed ability to sue nursing homes for stuffing old people in during covid.
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>>1281017 >when did republicans vote for open borders When they started their human trafficking campaign.
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>>1280637 people arent even worth killing anymore. This countries gone to shit.
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>>1281022 you mean when they deported illegals out of the US and into foreign countries like NYC, chicago, mass and denver?
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>>1281024 No, when Rs vote for child marriages. and again when they separated children from parents and "lost" the children.
American people don't want increased crime rates and rightfully do not want continued republican policies.
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>>1281027 80% of illegals are rapists or child rapists so we need to separate them at the border. also how is that voting for more crime? as opposed to open borders, blm DAs, cashless bail, defund the police, legalized weed, legalized other drugs, ending hot pursuit, which all cause more crime?
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>>1281028 Where do you people get this shit from?
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>>1281028 Republicans voted for unlimited migrants.
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>>1281024 No, the human trafficking they're engaging in with they kidnap migrants and ship them in to America.
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>>1281044 NYC isn't in America
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>>1281045 I see the non Americans who make up the south eastern boarder of Mexico are getting uppity again.
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>>1281046 guatemala and belize
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>>1281047 I'd take those in exchange for TexASS. Those losers can't even win a war.
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>>1280637 are you stupid? They changed what constitutes as a crime as a way to manipulate the stats to make it look that way. Crime is way way up if the stats were reported the same way they were reported at that point in time they reference. Like any time...
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>>1281053 LMAO, Repulicope spotted
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>>1281017 Clearly those stuff aren't causing crime tho
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>>1281053 My wife actually got assaulted while she was waiting for the bus today for work. Liberal bastion, too, west coast City known for its progressivism but I won't say which. Someone ran up to her, hit her in the face and ran off. No reason at all. They just wanted to hit someone I guess.
She tried calling non emergency police to report it and stated on hold for a half hour and gave up
It's not just prosecuting less. By having police force so thin that they can't respond to or take reports of crimes, on paper, it looks like crime is dropping but in reality, people who are victims of crime simply aren't having their reports of crime addressed
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they say "crime" as a ctachall term when really they should be talking about the homicide clearance rate in 1964, before the civil rights act was signed, for every 100 murders in america, 95 of them would be solved take a guess at how many murders we solve today if a person cant solve a murder why should we take their word on something else like "is crime down" post script: i am from beautiful san fransisco, and all the stores are leaving
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>>1281097 In 1964 there were only 100 million people in America, dumbass
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>>1281097 >in 1964, before the civil rights act was signed, for every 100 murders in america, 95 of them would be solved Source now.
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>>1281017 >when did republicans vote for open borders >defund the police Literally all the time.
>legalized weed When they think they can make a buck after they retire.
Also legalizing weed and other drugs would fucking crater the crime rate given how many people get charged for just drug offenses.
>blm DAs >ending hot pursuit Not a thing. Unless you meant car chases for hot pursuit, but that shit's stupidly dangerous and unnecessary. Although I guess it would be on brand for Republicans to want dead cops and civilians.
>cashless bail Innocent until proven guilty. Fuck you.
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>>1281003 >CITATION FUCKING NEEDED you dickless faggot I need a citation to claim a city in America has Republican leadership, is whiter than average (those two go hand in hand), and has a higher than average crime rate?
Also you already called me dickless. Get better insults.
>NYC is currently reporting murders as suicides But they have one of the lowest suicide rates in the country and haven't seen an increase over the past several years.
Also, holy shit do people kill themselves a lot in red states. I knew it was higher, but actually looking into it is spooky. You motherfuckers have no reason to live, huh?
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>Literally all the time. CITATION NEEDED
>When they think they can make a buck after they retire. CITATION NEEDED
>Also legalizing weed and other drugs would fucking crater the crime rate given how many people get charged for just drug offenses. crime rates went up in every state that legalized weed because weed causes people to become violent retards. this effect is in dozens of peer reviewed scientific journal articles. you are just a weed addict. also crime went up in oregon after legalizing drugs
>Not a thing. the philly DA literally was a lawyer for BLM before he got elected as DA and a bunch of blue DAs got endorsed by BLM
and chicago banned chasing criminals on foot or in a car
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-police-are-no-longer-allowed-chase-people-foot-just-running-aw-rcna34599 so you are intentionally lying, arguing in bad faith and also you have no dick
>Innocent until proven guilty. cashless bail puts white people in jail until trial if their gun holds 1 too many bullets, but intentionally lets blacks who force feed people human shit out the same day so they can do a hate crime. cashless bail has been proven not to work and to increase crime
>I need a citation you need a citation to claim you live in a city with a red mayor that is a shithole
>Also you already called me dickless. yeah, because you have no dick, tranny
>But they have one of the lowest suicide rates in the country and haven't seen an increase over the past several years. CITATION NEEDED
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>>1281155 there's no causal link between marijuana and violence, so i'm not sure why you're asking for citations if you use lies as yours
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>>1281157 again, you are a dickless faggot coping and seething and arguing in bad faith because you want to defend your hobby of being addicted to weed. you are also just focusing on that because you cant cite anything else and lost the argument and also you have no dick
https://www.jstor.org/stable/45150808 https://jaapl.org/content/early/2021/12/10/JAAPL.210034-21 https://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/doi/10.1176/appi.ajp.2020.19101008 Anonymous
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>>1281160 the first paragraph in your first link literally proves my point retard. how embarrassing
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>>1281174 Anon doesn't know the difference between correlation and causation. Not sure if its willful bad faith or he's actually too delusional to understand the concept. He's been using this board as his personal schizophrenia journal for several months now. Its best to ignore him.
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>>1280705 reported crimes are not the same as charges and convictions. your post is a non-sequitir
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>>1280637 >if we don't report crime and the police don't show up then the crime never happened >it just means more dead nigs, spics, and liberals im okay with that
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All I got from this thread is that Republicans need to believe that crime is getting worse in order to keep their propaganda machine going. If crime goes down, they can no longer blame all of society's ills on every black mayor
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>>1280637 Major municipalities like NYC have deliberate systemic underreporting where they purposefully don't send information to the FBI.
>https://www.themarshallproject.org/2022/06/14/what-did-fbi-data-say-about-crime-in-2021-it-s-too-unreliable-to-tell In 2021, 40% of agencies, and especially those in LA and NYC didn't send in information to the UCR program.
And that is on top of underpolicing like San Fran's completely neglect of policing thefts and robberies.
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>>1281234 This article is about data collection from 2021. The OP is about 2023 data. Did you even read the source you posted?
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>>1281237 I am aware.
There weren't any articles specifically covering the response rate for 2023's data yet.
>https://stateline.org/2023/10/27/politicians-love-to-cite-crime-data-its-often-wrong/ 2022 again saw a deliberate 30% failure to respond, especially from major municipalities. And many that did, still underreported to the FBI compared to their own ledgers.
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>>1281238 >I am aware. >There weren't any articles specifically covering the response rate for 2023's data yet. So of what relevance is data collection issues in 2021 relevant to the data of 2023?
>2022 again saw a deliberate 30% failure to respond, especially from major municipalities. And many that did, still underreported to the FBI compared to their own ledgers. Yet the enforcement agencies that did report saw a decline in violent crime. You haven't demonstrated in any way that the data is incorrect.
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>>1281239 Once is an accident and a reason to not trust the UCR.
Twice is a pattern and even more reason not to trust the UCR.
There is no reason to think that the police forces that didn't report properly in 2021 for deliberate reasons, would do so in 2023. There is even less reason to think that the stations that deliberately didn't report in 2022 as well, would do so properly in 2023.
I've demonstrated that the most populous liberally governed municipalities are the most likely to refuse to report their data. Thereby making the data extremely incomplete in the most important locations.
And I've demonstrated that among those that do report, they commonly underreport data they're sending.
Together these make any claims to decreases in crime rates totally untrustworthy.
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>>1281240 >There is no reason to think that the police forces that didn't report properly in 2021 for deliberate reasons, would do so in 2023 So, in other words, you have no proof of anything you're claiming. This is just like your "common sense" hunch you're using to dismiss data without evidence that its wrong.
>I've demonstrated that the most populous liberally governed municipalities are the most likely to refuse to report their data But again, to be clear, you have absolutely zero evidence of this.
>There is even less reason to think that the stations that deliberately didn't report in 2022 as well, would do so properly in 2023. And yet you have no proof this is true. This is just your guess.
>I've demonstrated that the most populous liberally governed municipalities are the most likely to refuse to report their data That's not what your own source says. Your own source says that there was a lack of data reporting in 2021 specifically because that year the FBI switched to a brand new data collection system that not all of the law enforcement agencies were prepared to utilize. Nowhere in your article does it ever state that they refused to or deliberately misrepresented data. That part you made up in your head.
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>>1281228 Now we know this is the go to Trump shill propaganda they'll spewing because Trump was weak on crime and Biden is lowering it.
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>>1281242 The data is openly acknowledged to be missing the most important case-studies, and for what it does have sampling for, the data is incomplete.
Justice departments in LA and NYC have openly discussed noncompliance and have openly talked about the need to be soft on many crimes for the sake of righting social ills. This well known stance very well can be related to them not releasing important crime data to the FBI.
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>>1281258 >The data is openly acknowledged to be missing the most important case-studies, and for what it does have sampling for, the data is incomplete. But, to be absolutely clear, this is just your hunch. Your proof that the data is incomplete is the fact that 3 years ago they had a data collection issue due to a change in their collection system. You have 0 proof that the 2023 data being presented here is misrepresented or incomplete.
>Justice departments in LA and NYC have openly discussed noncompliance and have openly talked about the need to be soft on many crimes for the sake of righting social ills. Yet you have zero evidence whatsoever that the data presented here in this article is incomplete or misrepresented. None whatsoever.
>his well known stance very well can be related to them not releasing important crime data to the FBI. It absolutely could relate, you just have no evidence that it actually does. You're just giving me your feelings.
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>>1281174 the first study shows there is a statistically significant association. but you are upset because you don't want to lose your hobby/religion of jerking off while high on weed, because you are an addict. weed causes violent crime. legalizing drugs causes an increase in violent crime.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047235220302361 states that legalized weed had more crime
drug deaths went up by 241% after oregon legalized drugs
https://www.npr.org/2024/02/07/1229655142/oregon-pioneered-a-radical-drug-policy-now-its-reconsidering the data is plain to see. drug users need to be put in jail for 25 to life.
>>1281187 samefag
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>>1281165 rino democrat. now where are the rest of the citations?
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>>1281268 >Still doesn't know the difference between causation and correlation Anonymous
>>1281233 samefag
>>1281257 biden is lowering crime, after it went up every year of his presidency, just like he is lowering illegal immigration, that went up every year of his presidency, or that he is lowering inflation, that went up every year of his presidency?
Is this like how the economy is so good a record number of Americans are currently homeless and a record number of Americans killed themselves last year?
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>>1281272 >every time we try legalizing weed there is a spike in violence >better keep legalizing it you are an addict
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Why do Republicans love crime so much?
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>>1281273 Sounds like more Repulicope.
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>>1281286 Same reason they love abortion. It gives them something to run against because they don't actually run for anything. They're the anti-party
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>>1281233 > All I got from this thread is that DemoKKKrats need to believe that racism is getting worse in order to keep their propaganda machine going. If racism goes down, they can no longer blame all of society's ills on every white person. Anonymous
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>>1281286 who are you speaking to? you're not in good company here
>>1281378 they run for reality, truth and empathy, something that leftists see as poison
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>>1280652 They literally don't arrest or charge people for stealing less than $750 in LA, Austin, and many other cities.
Petty theft is like 90% of crime.
So they make 90% of crime legal and crime goes down 8%.
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>>1282020 And they got rid of many previous misdeamnor charges in other cities like seattle, portland, and baltimore.
Just like with schools, all they do is lower the standards for third-worlders.
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