https://www.newsweek.com/why-jon-stewart-home-overvaluation-different-donald-trump-1884757 Jon Stewart responded with characteristic wit Wednesday after a New York Post story, centered around a right-wing commentator’s tweet, tried to depict the Comedy Central host as a hypocrite after he criticized Donald Trump’s justification of bank fraud as a “victimless crime.”
The Post quoted podcaster Tim Pool, who baselessly wondered whether Stewart committed “fraud” when he sold his New York City penthouse for $17.5 million in 2014. The publication based its conclusion on the fact that assessor records from that year showed the property’s estimated market value sitting at $1.882 million. According to the Post, the property’s assessor valuation was under $850,000.
On Monday’s episode of The Daily Show, Stewart explained why Donald Trump’s claim that his bank fraud judgment for inflating property values to secure better loans—and then using lower values for tax purposes—was not a “victimless crime.”
“Money isn’t infinite. A loan that goes to the liar doesn’t go to someone who’s giving a more honest evaluation. So the system becomes incentivized for corruption,” Stewart said then.
These comments, apparently spurred Pool—and later the Post—to look into Stewart’s own past.
“Did [Stewart] commit fraud when he sold his penthouse for $17.5M? NY listed its market value at $1.8M [and assessed value] at around 800k,” Pool asked in a post on Twitter.
But Stewart wasn’t having it.
“OMG!! I've been caught doing something not remotely similar to Trump!” he wrote in a tweet late Wednesday afternoon. “I guess all I need to do now is start a fraud college, steal classified docs, bankrupt casinos, pay hush money, grab pussies, discriminate in housing, cheat at golf and foment insurrection and you'll revere me!”
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While Trump presented his inflated property values to lenders in order to get favorable loans, Stewart sold his property to a buyer who was willing to pay $17.5 million, which is an entirely different scenario. Stewart did not, for instance, submit documents tripling the size of his penthouse, like the former president did with his own in Trump Tower. Additionally, it is quite common for a property’s assessed value and its market value—what someone would pay for it—to vary, according to Forbes, with the latter often being higher. Trump, despite having his appeal bond drastically reduced Monday, is still on the hook for some $454 million following the case—a verdict he says he will appeal.
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>>1282775 Is this THEE Jon Leibowitz??
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>>1282777 No. His name is Jon Stewart. He was born Jon Leibowitz though, so you might be confused.
People can change their names. You'd know that if you could even conceive of marriage, but well... we know that isn't happening for you. And we know why.
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Before Anti-Semitic Republicans like
>>1282777 Try to derail this by regurgitating Tim 'I won't be bullied into wearing a mask, but I will be a hypocrite and shame myself into wearing a beanie to cover my bald head' Pool talking point.
>Selling your home for more than it's worth isn't a crime. (What Jon Stewart did)
>Artificially inflating the worth of your home so it appears worth more than it is to secure a better loan is. (What Trump did)
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>>1282782 Damn, I'll never be Mrs. Leibowitz then.
Drats.
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>>1282785 Considering that I am actually Tim Pool, this offends me.
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>>1282783 >>Artificially inflating the worth of your home so it appears worth more than it is to secure a better loan is. and
>refusing to allow third party appraisals of your home to secure a loan and
>complain that you won't be able to sell your property for anywhere near what you claim its worth Why is anyone trusting this Trump guy anyway?
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>>1282786 Are you ashamed that you're bald too?
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>>1282787 Because if he can do that with real estate imagine what he can and did do as President? List a President Biden accompishment, please.
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>>1282788 No, actually. Are you proud to be gay?
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>>1282791 I'm still a pretty happy individual because unlike conservatives, I don't let blind racism and bigotry run my life.
Thank you for asking. Why are you ashamed of being bald?
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>>1282798 Why do you think everyone is a liar and a racist? Jew is not a race I know of, last I checked there were only four of them and none have been referenced here.
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>>1282800 Not everyone, just you and other people trying to run smear jobs to defend Trump.
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Looks like /pol/ is avoiding this thread because it utterly destroys their narrative. I'm not shocked, but it shows they're running scared from the facts.
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>>1282775 >grab pussies, For a party obsessed with sex, Democrats sure have an aversion to grabbing pussies.
What's up with that?
Wait. I just remembered they're all fags.
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>>1282819 I'd remind you that females exist, but let's be honest, that will never be relevant to you.
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>>1282819 >Republicans love admitting they commit sexual assault and rape Interesting confession.
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>>1282822 I think you've misunderstood, I'm calling you a fag.
Personally I understand that women enjoy being grabbed by the pussy. I've never met a woman that didn't love being manhandled.
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>>1282823 >All sexual contact is sexual assualt and rape!!! OK, come on faggots, just admit you're basement troons already.
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>>1282790 if he can commit white collar crime, he must be a good president.
someone better hire me for president
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>more /pol/ buzzwords because he got called out They aren't sending their best.
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>>1282825 >Personally I understand that women enjoy being grabbed by the pussy. I've never met a woman that didn't love being manhandled. >women enjoy being grabbed by the pussy. I've never met a woman that didn't love >by the pussy. I've never met a woman >I've never met a woman Anonymous
>>1282832 Yes, I understand you've never met a woman that was sexually attracted to you.
I feel bad for you.
You literally can just grab them by the pussy if they're into you.
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>>1282835 But what does this have to do with Trump committing mass fraud and Republican propagandists trying to muddy the water by smearing Jon Stewart?
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It's strange how fraud only exists if Republicans are committing it.
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>>1282841 It's not really. It's like saying crimes only happen if criminals are committing them. Can't spell conservative without con.
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>>1282825 >I think you've misunderstood, I'm calling you a fag. I see what level you're on even if it's a strain to get down low enough to see it.
Most Dems are women, not gay dudes. You were confused as to why they wouldn't want to sexually assault women. You forgot women exist.
Honestly it's impressive that you managed to get to dick on dick in a conversation about pussy grabbing. You think about gay dudes a lot?
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>>1282845 What's more interesting is the fact the Republican shill believes women love being physically abused. Prostitutes or a home of domestic violence?
i like to see a 2 MEN fuck a ʷᵒᵐᵃn
tim pool the fool vs jon stewart?
Pool just got on jon's radar, and there's torpedoes heading his way.
>>1282846 the Republican shill likes straight porn.
2 men on 1 woman(the more cocks, the better)
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>>1282849 >the Republican shill likes straight porn. Pornhub shows he faps to trans porn, it makes sense why he's overcompensating.
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>>1282851 Oh, you mean the thing where they took google trends results and called all searches, searches for porn? Yeah that was a classic example of an amazingly "I fuckin' LOVE science moment".
The fantasy still gets the troon CHUBs excited that they're so popular with sexy right wing men that will grab them by the neopussy.
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>>1282856 You're extremely upset over this, why?
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>>1282861 You seem upset it's not real.
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>>1282863 You can gaslight yourself, but you can't gaslight others.
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>>1282864 I can refer a ridiculous gaslighting study any time I want same as you, faggot.
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>>1282866 You're even more upset than before after being correctly called out.
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>>1282868 I'm good. Are you upset I'm not upset or upset I spoiled you fantasy?
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>>1282874 Clearly, you are not good if you're projecting.
So why are you fine with Trump committing massive fraud and sexually assaulting women? This is the Republican platform after all.
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>>1282874 Not him but you are clearly upset. You're also delusional and have an unhealthy obsession with troons.
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>>1282877 You are him. You are a troon. And you're upset I'm interfering with your fantasy of being ravaged by a sexy right wing man.
You'll get over it if you take more hormones and mutilate your body more.
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>>1282879 I'm not him and the more you expose your paranoid delusions the more you're going to get laughed at.
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>>1282880 I can tell it's you fucktard.
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>>1282881 No you can't because it's not.
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>>1282882 It is because you're a faggot.
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>>1282884 Where did the faggots touch you?
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>>1282885 Where homosexuals always touch boys: on the butthole.
100% of chomos are LGBTQ
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>>1282835 >You literally can just grab them by the pussy if they're into you. which has never applied to Trump. He married a hooker
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>>1282775 >"trump should go to jail for selling his house at an inflated value" >well you did that >"WELL MAYBE I SHOULD GRAB PUSSIES AND STEAL CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND CHEAT AT GOLF AND MAYBE IT'LL BE OKAY" this is how a guilty woman argues
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>>1282910 >>"trump should go to jail for selling his house at an inflated value" He didn't do that though. He claimed it was a higher value for loan purposes and a lower value for tax purposes. He deliberately lied to steal money.
Conservicunts sure seem confident about things they have no clue about
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>>1282910 Except Trump wasn't selling his property, he was lying about the value of his property to secure loans so the two situations are nothing alike
Why are conservatives like this?
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>>1282910 This is how a completely clueless misinformed retard argues
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>>1282911 >He deliberately lied to steal money. Sure is weird how not even the banks agree with you.
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>sir, you were going fifteen miles over the speed limit >If I chose to break the speed limit, do you think that I would only be going fifteen miles over? maybe I should have done that, then I would be like all the other people speeding on the road!
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>>1282775 I can never tell if Newsweek poster is an actual jew propaganda shill or if he's using calculated language to false flag as one to highlight how retarded they are.
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>>1282929 Certainly better than the Russian Republican shill who spams NYpost and dailymail cancer.
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>>1282911 So are we going to go after all the people who did this, or was it a deliberate political attack using lawfare that undermines the entire judicial system of the nation and will inevitably plunge it into civil war in which the leftist establishment is immediately slaughtered wholesale? choose carefully, moshe.
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>>1282927 No, the banks said they didn't care about the lies and would have loaned to him anyway.
Which doesn't mean Trump didn't commit fraud, only that he didn't have to commit fraud to get the loans he did. Which makes more stupid that that he committed fraud in the first place.
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>>1282931 Ideally the now expanded IRS will be able to audit more rich people and uncover the fraud they've been doing and prosecute them for it.
But you retards are supporting the rich and trying to let them keep committing their crimes in secret by defunding the IRS, so we'll keep trying to drag you kicking and screaming into the light.
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>>1282933 >Ideally the now expanded IRS will be able to audit more rich people and uncover the fraud they've been doing and prosecute them for it. It really makes you think why Republicans wanted to defund the IRS to stop them from investigating the rich and their fraud. Almost like they're the ones committing it and they don't want to be caught and prosecuted.
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>>1282932 >No, the banks said they didn't care about the lies and would have loaned to him anyway. No, they literally said that they agreed with the terms of the loan because they did their own due diligence.
You're unironically suggesting that you know better about loans than a bank, you fucking retard.
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>>1282935 So they knew Trump was committing fraud and went ahead anyway?
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>>1282940 Fraud requires deception and injury.
Nobody was deceived, nobody was injured.
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>>1282942 Oh shit, so all of the judges and juries and prosecutors who charged him and successfully convicted him of fraud were all wrong and you, amateur 4chan lawyer with zero training or expertise whatsoever is right! And the answer is "Actually judge, he didn't commit fraud cause he was not fraud and there no fraud". Holy shit! You need to alert Trump's legal team immediately. You just cracked this case.
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>>1282943 Be less concerned about what I think. Be more concerned about the trump voters who hate people like you.
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>>1282949 why, are they going to steal my podium
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>>1282949 >Be less concerned about what I think. I don't think I could physically be less concerned with what you think.
>Be more concerned about the trump voters who hate people like you. These people are absolute knuckle draggers. FOX News could air an episode telling them to hate tuna sandwiches and they'd be in the streets the next day setting them on fire and chanting victory over communism.
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>>1282942 If that's the case, why was Trump found guilty of being deceptive? Are you saying the banks were co conspirators and we need to nationalize them because they're corrupt as private entities?
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>>1282954 No he's saying that he loves Trump and Trump is his god emperor and there's no way Trump can ever do anything wrong so if he gets found guilty of a crime its cause the law is wrong and everyone else is wrong.
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>>1282942 >Fraud requires deception and injury. No, it doesn't.
A simple quick check of several fraud statutes would have told you this.
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>>1282954 The same reason Judge Engoron was posing for the media.
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>>1282958 Why didn't the judge throw Trump in prison for contempt then?
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>>1282958 >Cause conspiracy Honestly, do you never tire of this?
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>>1282776 you cannot convince MAGAts of anything.
My home's appraised value is $125,000. I could sell it tomorrow for $170,000. If someone offered me more, then fine. That is how real estate works.
If I went to the bank for a loan and told them y house was worth $350,000 to secure the loan, that would be fraud.
MAGAts will never admit that there is a difference.
i'm not with stupid >
>>1282879 i'm definitely not ''HIM"
but i'm definitely getting a trigger vibe
>>1282889 I'm genuinely sorry that a pedo touched your butthole
as A 100% faggot, i can assure you, i like big cocks and muscular buttocks, and little peepees dont interest me
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>>1282961 There really needs to be a case study on Conservatives in how no matter what Trump does, either hypocritical or criminal, they will find away to defend it.
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>>1282968 >as A 100% faggot, i can assure you, i like big cocks and muscular buttocks, and little peepees dont interest me So you're a bottom who's been infected with HIV and slimmed down to look like a little boy lacking in all post puberty muscle.
Yeah, I forgot about that type of faggot.
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>>1282975 The delivery mechanism may be new but the concept is pretty bog standard cognitive dissonance. When you have no empirical basis or epistemic process of deciding what is true then "true vs. false" and "good vs. evil" become hopelessly intertwined in your brain. You're no longer able to divorce the two. Anything that makes them feel good is true and anything that makes them feel bad is false.
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>>1282978 But how often do you come across someone as morally bankrupt and hypocritical as Trump that people are duty bound to defend no matter what?
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>>1282980 I've only ever see something similar when it comes to Joe Biden, or Hillary Clinton.
Interesting phenomenon.
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>>1282983 but what about your mother
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>>1282984 My mother gives the best blowjobs.
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>>1282980 I think morality takes a big back seat when it comes to this kind of cognitive dissonance. Its not so much that people are consciously doing a thing they know is bad to satisfy a bias - its that they've become so bias that they genuinely believe these bad things don't exist. Its my opinion that it isn't about Trump, its about the narrative represents. Ceasing to defend Trump, to them, has nothing to do with ceasing to defend him as a person but ceasing to defend what he stands for. No longer supporting Trump would mean giving ground to the liberals and admitting that they were right. This is the thing that they're constitutionally incapable of doing. They'd rather torpedo themselves and all of us into the ground then cede any defeat to their ideological enemies. Plus, at this point, its a sunk cost fallacy. If you're someone who has been defending every deranged, corrupt and immoral action of Trump's for the past several years, at this point, admitting you were wrong would be tantamount to admitting the entire way you view and process the world is flawed. You'd be admitting that everything you sacrificed was for nothing. Most people, especially those as primed for emotional manipulation as MAGA fanatics, are not mentally strong or sufficiently introspective enough to endure such a painful, transformative process.
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>>1282980 I think morality takes a big back seat when it comes to this kind of cognitive dissonance. Its not so much that people are consciously doing a thing they know is bad to satisfy a bias - its that they've become so bias that they genuinely believe these bad things don't exist. Its my opinion that it isn't about Trump, its about the narrative represents. Ceasing to defend Trump, to them, has nothing to do with defending his actions as an individual but rather ceasing to defend what he stands for. No longer supporting Trump would mean giving ground to the liberals and admitting that they were right. This is the thing that they're constitutionally incapable of doing. This is why populist leaders are so dangerous. This is why he always repeats "When they attack me they're attacking you.". To them he's no longer a person. He's a symbol - a proxy for an entire way of living and thinking. Abandoning Trump would essentially be abandoning themselves. Plus, at this point, its a sunk cost fallacy. If you're someone who has been defending every deranged, corrupt and immoral action of Trump's for the past several years, at this point, admitting you were wrong would be tantamount to admitting the entire way you view and process the world is flawed. You'd be admitting that everything you sacrificed was for nothing. Most people, especially those as primed for emotional manipulation as MAGA fanatics, are not mentally strong or sufficiently introspective enough to endure such a painful, transformative process.
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>>1282986 Does your boss know you need better material?
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>>1282988 >No argument I must have hit a nerve huh
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>>1282775 >>1282776 reminder, stewart is mad because the banks lost money on interest and stewart is jewish so he worships the banks
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>>1283042 jews fucked your mom?
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>>1282989 Imagine thinking that slop deserves an argument.
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>>1282983 >Whatabout Interesting how conservatives love to use Russian tactics.
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>>1282987 This is why demagogues lead to ruination and idolatry goes against the first of ten commandments.
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>>1283051 It's funny that the people who worship those commandments are the ones who break it.
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>>1283065 Do not be fooled. One does not need be religious to exploit secular power. There is hope to convert those you name.
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>>1283067 Except Trump's most fanatical supporters are Evangelicals and the christo fascists.
Makes me believe Trump is the Anti-Christ if he has the power to lead so many fanatics astray from basic Jesus gospel.
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>>1283072 If Trump was the anti-Christ (the jewish messiah) jews would be supporting him since the end goal of judaism is to bring ruination to the world.
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>>1283075 Isn't that something only antisemites (you) say?
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>>1283076 Well, no. It's literally their religion. And it's not even a secret.
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>>1283082 Where does it say the Jews support the anti Christ in the bible?
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>>1283084 Who said anything about the Bible?
Study judaism.
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>>1283087 You made the claim, prove it.
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>>1283088 Sorry you're unwilling to educate yourself.
I'm not here to teach you.
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>>1283090 So you have no proof and are lying.
As expected of an anti-semite. Also very republican behavior.
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>>1283091 >Jew thinks he's good a jewing. Wow so fresh!
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>>1282961 You do realize that banks hire their own property evaluators, right? You don't get to just tell them what your house is worth.
The amount of lying in this thread is actually unbelievable.
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>>1283106 >businessinsider I'm not interested in clicking links you can't summarize.
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>>1283106 Interesting how the people who call out Trump die. Same with Epstein.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDMinX6t1Zk Interesting how this is what triggered Republicans into running a smear job against Jon Stewart where they not only equate capitalism with fraud, but know their followers are stupid enough to fall for it.
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>>1283112 >Trump isn't arguing he's innocent, he's arguing he has the right to be a criminal. Biden should fire his messaging team and hire this guy.
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>>1282777 YOU DON'T OWN NOTHING GOYIM
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>>1282800 This guy is ashamed of being bald.
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>>1283112 Still waiting to see how Stewart responds to the Republican hit piece and if he gives Tim 'Baldy bald the 3rd' Pool any time of day or just go straight after the New York Post.
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>>1283279 >Gets his news from late night shows He'll probably back down because he looks like a fool.
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>>1283285 >20 years later and conservatives are still seething over this. https://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/TV/09/28/comedy.politics/ >Survey reveals late-night TV viewers better informed than Fox News Viewers Anonymous
We need that 'why are conservatives not funny' video.
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>>1283181 I'm not really bald, but if it makes you feel better I did like having more hair when I was younger, but also getting a haircut is a pain in the ass for me and I get a lot of dry skin. You shouldn't worry so much about vanity, looks are temporary.
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>>1283344 Tell that to Tim Pool.
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>>1283345 I don't even like Tim Pool. His show used to be good when he had that Adam dude on, but we saw how that went. Tim thinks he started Vice.
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>>1283342 >We need that 'why are conservatives not funny' video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8yV8xUorQ8 Anonymous
>>1282776 >hey goyim we know its fraud because the property value didn't match the assessed value >trump : the property was used a collateral for loan and the bank agreed >leibowitz : the property was used a collateral for loan and the bank agreed >oh vey its complete different! I swear liberals are the only idiots stupider than trumpers
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>>1283360 They are so blinded by hate that they don't see how they have dehumanized half the people they encounter and they feel justified to be that way because of their "progressive" values. "Progression" towards what exactly?
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>>1283360 What loan did Jon Stewart get?
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>>1283364 >>1283360 Now THIS is projection
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>>1283352 >>1283342 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSXKzPOcYDU I always found it interesting how conservatives see comedy as inherently political and means to attack people, so they think they can turn their pundits into comedians, instead of having actual comedians.
Also this.
>Satire is meant to ridicule power. If you are laughing at people who are hurting, it's not satire, it's bullying. -Terry Pratchett
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>>1283368 Wow great counter point.
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>>1283370 Satire is meant to ridicule, their politics is not computed in this. You are allowed to find whatever you want to be funny and history changes the context of things. Grow up.
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>>1283376 Satire is meant to ridicule those in power, the fact you use it to punch down on people shows you don't get what comedy is and shows why conservatives are generally cruel and petty.
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>>1283384 You missed my point entirely. There is no such thing as "punching down," that is something that is subjective and decided by the person observing the satire. A normal person doesn't go through a checklist in their mind before they determine something is funny, they simply laugh. People devoid of humor have to find a reason to fit in, this is called sychophantic behavior.
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>>1283376 >Satire is meant to ridicule And ridicule should be reserved for objects worthy of ridicule. If you ridicule someone or something generally viewed as positive or benign, you'll be looked at like a confused and/or bitter freak and see no general appeal.
>You are allowed to find whatever you want to be funny Yes, and others are allowed to find you unfunny.
>and history changes the context of things. The ash heap of history is full of conservatives that falsely claimed history would vindicate them. The future is constantly being built on their bones.
I'd say cons should stick to absurdist humor, but that'd require them understanding that most people find the shit they believe to be absurd.
>their politics is not computed in this 1. LMAO
2. All art is political
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>>1283389 >There is no such thing as Sounds like cope by you when you punch down.
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>>1283389 >There is no such thing as "punching down," I think we can at least agree that making fun of the mentally disabled is meanspirited and unfair. People like you can't fight back with any efficacy. How can it not be? You'd have to be a complete asshole to attack someone like you for your mental disability.
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>>1283561 This is why Democrats are terrible at messaging and the media as a massive conservative bias.