We need to get rid of legislative immunity. shit like California's fee shifting bullshit and Washington's judge shopping is proof that all this shit is in bad faith. Make it so any politician who votes for and any governor that signs a gun law that is found to be unconstitutional has to pay back the state and the plaintiff all their legal fees and goes to jail or is hanged.
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WA has passed lots of new gun laws. Could they be in legal trouble?
April 15, 2024 at 6:00 am Updated April 15, 2024 at 6:00 am
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David Gutman By David Gutman
Seattle Times staff reporter
When a Cowlitz County judge ruled last week that Washington’s ban on high- capacity magazines is unconstitutional, he added one line, on Page 43 of his 55-page opinion, that could just be a little-noticed throwaway, or could prove shockingly prescient.
There are, Judge Gary Bashor wrote, “few, if any, historical analogue laws by which a state can justify a modern firearms regulation.”
The high-capacity magazine ban, Bashor wrote, pointing to U.S. Supreme Court precedent, fails because there are no “relevantly similar” laws from around 1791, when the Second Amendment was adopted.
Bashor’s ruling was immediately placed on hold, and the state’s ban on high-capacity magazines remains in effect, while the state Supreme Court considers the issue.
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But it raises a question: Washington has passed a suite of new gun laws in the last decade. If each new law needs a “historical analogue” from 1791-era America, could many more gun laws be at risk?
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>>1287294 gun ownership rights are never going to be human rights
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In Bruen, the Supreme Court tossed aside the traditional way of evaluating gun laws: weighing the public interest against the individual’s right. Instead, courts now had to determine whether a gun law is “consistent with this Nation’s historical tradition.” The ruling has led to hundreds of court cases nationwide challenging the constitutionality of both new and longstanding gun laws.
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>>1287296 the right to keep and bear arms always has been and always will be a basic human right. keep crying, tranny
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“There is nothing unreasonable about restricting the sale of deadly
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“The key question is whether modern and historical regulations impose a comparable burden,” Pekelis said, “and whether that burden is comparably justified.”
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Bashor knocks that analogy as it “predates the Declaration of Independence and the creation of the Second Amendment.”
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In Bruen, the Supreme Court wrote that “dramatic technological changes” or “unprecedented societal concerns” can give courts more nuance in interpreting modern gun laws.
But Bashor writes that high-capacity magazines are not new technology and that mass shootings do not represent unprecedented societal concerns.
Immergut, an appointee of former President Donald Trump, finds the opposite, writing that from 1776 to 1949 there was no example of a mass shooting resulting in double-digit fatalities (excluding events like race riots and labor riots). She writes that a handgun with a large-capacity magazine can be reloaded in about three seconds, while the typical muzzleloading musket available in 1791 could be reloaded and fired three times per minute.
Both state bans on high-capacity magazines are now on appeal. In Washington, the state is appealing to the state Supreme Court. A hearing on the Cowlitz County case is scheduled for Wednesday.
In Oregon, gun rights groups are appealing to a federal appellate court, while the state pursues an appeal of a state court ruling saying the law could not be enforced.
California’s bans on high-capacity magazines and on AR-15-style rifles are both on appeal, after each was invalidated by the same federal judge.
“You’ve seen this storyline before and I think it’s important not to be too alarmed that a single judge takes a different view,” Pekelis said. “That’s why we have appellate courts, to correct errors.”
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>blah blah blah >We homo globalists cant seem to find a good way to enslave the americans into submission without taking all the guns first...
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these chicks have dicks...i is confused but hard Tue 16 Apr 2024 00:14:11 No. 1287439 Report >>1287298 >the right to keep and bear arms always has been and always will be a basic human right. Gun ownership rights are not human rights or Natural Rights
Gun ownership is a legal right given by citizens in a democracy.
"God" didn't give you this right.
"Nature" didn't give you this right.
People did.
Humans don't want potential maniacs having weapons of lethal destruction.
The right to keep and bear arms is a not God given right.
God didn't give you the ability to pick up a stick and hit someone with it to defend yourself
''Natural'' selection you the ability to pick up a stick.
But as a human, I grant you the "human" right by creating "human" laws to carry your stick around, and if you decide to use your stick to try and mass murder 100 people in a night club,
My human law will then pick up your pieces and then put them in jail
try again closet ladyboy lover
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>>1287439 You are posting in a schizo gun nut thread. Ignore him. He'll go away eventually.
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>>1287439 rights don't come from the state, faggot. you have been blown the fuck out on this time and time and time again. That is why the 2nd amendment says >shall not be infringed, not >people have the right to. The 2nd amendment is literally a law limiting the government, it does not limit the people at all. keep coping there tranny faggot. you seem to be very upset and that is why you are projecting the gay shit
>>1287442 samefag
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>>1287443 >Everyone that disagrees with me is the same person! Meds. You must take them.
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>>1287458 we've seen your leaked discord, tranny
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>>1287294 >Washington's judge shopping >any governor that signs a gun law that is found to be unconstitutional Republicunts complaining about judge shopping and passing blatantly unconstitutional laws is hilarious
Almost as hilarious as your hypocritical ass only having problems when it applies to gun laws
Maybe advocate for stopping this process altogether?
Too bad, but Republicans blocked efforts to stop judge shopping because they need it to continue their bad faith bullshit, and if they couldn't pass unconstitutional laws their base would eat them alive.
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>>1287472 >Republicunts complaining about judge shopping When does the GOP block people from suing in the district they want? king hawaii judge blocked tons of shit the WA fag tried to pass a law that said you could only sue in one county the capital was where all the judges were far left jews.
> and passing blatantly unconstitutional laws is hilarious the GOP doesn't pass unconstitutional shit. only dems do.
judge shopping is based when the people do it and gay when the government tries to stop it
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>>1287460 Hopefully it was the one where we scheme about fucking up 4chan and not the one where we try to get nudes of boys.
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>>1287294 Thanks for posting this anon, as a lifeling Washingtonian I can once again say that Bob Ferguson can suck my fat hairy balls, what a useless tax wasting headlines chaser
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>>1287614 What's it like being an extremist minority?
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>>1287616 a. protecting gun rights is neither extremist or a minority. that is why federal gun control keeps getting btfod
b. even if it is, the constitution exists to protect minorities and the constitution is explicitly clear that what WA is doing is a human rights violation and not within their power
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>>1287458 It must be a step on their shill flowchart, it always seems to happen when people disagree with them
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>>1287616 Weird how dems love minorities except when it comes to constitutional rights
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>>1287627 You get everything you know about
'dems' from clickbait and twatter. That's one of the many reasons why no one listens to you.
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>>1287628 you literally are arguing in this fucking topic that pro guns are a minority and shouldn't have rights, retard
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>>1287628 Weird projection
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>>1287628 Find me a dem who does not support gun control.
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>>1287628 You get everything you know about
'Alt-right' from fake news MSM and twatter. That's one of the many reasons why I don't listen to a california fag.
(see what I did there)
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>>1287295 the fact that ARs are basically never used in crimes and dems still want to ban them shows it isn't about crime, its about trying to disarm regular people
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>>1287628 Don't forget his severe schizophrenia. Gun nut schizo gets a lot of his talking points from that too.
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>>1287745 post medical credentials, jew boi
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>>1287748 you're on israel's side conservative shill. why do i always have to remind you
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>>1287753 dems and brandon keep approving aid to isreal so they can pay their MIC donors, fag boi
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>>1287757 Seek psychiatric help
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>>1287760 post medical credentials
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>>1287439 >Gun ownership rights are not human rights or Natural Rights >Gun ownership is a legal right given by citizens in a democracy. >"God" didn't give you this right. WRONG!
Completely wrong.
In the Gospels when Jesus sends His Apostles out the 2nd time, tells them to "Bring a sword (the current weapon of warfare), if you don't have one, go sell your Tunic and buy one (Sword).
God told us (not necessary You) to carry arms - weapons of war!
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Any elected officials who introduce or vote for a bill intended to remove or infringe upon any Constitutionally protected Right should at least be removed from office for lying under the oath they took (To support and defend the Constitution...)
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antigunners seething itt
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>>1287439 >legal right given by citizens in a democracy. That's neither how rights nor democracies work
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>>1287439 >Gun ownership rights are not human rights or Natural Rights (You) are a Liar and a Fool
