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Anonymous Sat 09 Dec 2023 03:38:38 No.2676468 View View Reply Original Report

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Homestead General /hsg/
> Woods Cabin Edition
> Thread #05

Talk gardening, farming, livestock, beekeeping, building, electricity and plumbing, earthworks, waterworks, permaculture, raising children, market gardening, selling produce, barter, home economics, composting, mulching, pest control, diet, health.
Anything relevant to living on site, making a home out of the land.

Old Thread: >>2640881

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2024 03:05:50 No.2720618 Report

Quoted By: >>2721953

die die die

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Anonymous Tue 16 Apr 2024 13:08:44 No.2720742 Report

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When it comes to water desalination plants, I find people who go "hurr durr too energy intensive and expensive to feed a city!!" retarded, because water desalination can be much more useful and sustainable than direct use.
>Desalinate water, fill ponds, and irrigate with that water
>Vegetation grows and brings in rain
>Clean, renewable, natural water from replenished groundwater, rivers, reservoirs, etc.
Where does rain come from? Evaporated ocean water.
That rain then fills reservoirs, rivers and aquifers, which is where most people get their water from.
That is what a desalination plant can do artificially: create "rain" to prevent water scarcity, or put the water cycle in a given area on steroids.

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Anonymous Fri 19 Apr 2024 04:28:52 No.2721953 Report

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>>2720618
>>2720617

No

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Anonymous Fri 19 Apr 2024 05:15:44 No.2721966 Report

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>>2702316
>Oh it seems like a good amount of green and nice architectur-
>Looks at bottom
Oh.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 03:04:31 No.2722321 Report

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>>2721966
That’s pretty typical for Seattle.
>oh this place is so nice, what are all those chuds tal-ACK!
>bleeds out on 3rd Ave bc diversity just stabbed you

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 04:18:26 No.2722344 Report

Quoted By: >>2722441

Is there a small and affordable threshing/winnowing machine for homesteaders? Combine harvesters are fricking huge and expensive, and often hard to fix due to their complexity. Threshing and winnowing by hand is too much work.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 05:31:08 No.2722360 Report

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>>2680222
Is 17k good though?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 05:33:22 No.2722361 Report

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>>2683659

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 05:37:53 No.2722362 Report

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>>2690873
>where do begin anons?
Digital police scanner and CB radio.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 05:49:57 No.2722363 Report

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>>2699302
How wide/deep is the creek? I have a drainage ditch on my property that I ended up just building a $200 bridge over and it can support the weight of my truck.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 13:20:26 No.2722441 Report

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>>2722344
Scythe + screen + winnowing basket. Once have enough practice you should be able to scythe down an acre a day and with five other competent workers you should be able to bind, thresh, and winnow that acre at the same time.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 16:46:09 No.2722507 Report

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>>2722441
Alright, thanks!

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 17:40:05 No.2722513 Report

Quoted By: >>2722534 >>2722600

Solar panels or wind turbines to heat a greenhouse?

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 18:27:28 No.2722527 Report

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>>2700670
Is Rolf's tractor for sale?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 18:32:48 No.2722534 Report

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>>2722513
Both have drawbacks for heat. A solar setup will pretty much always use the battery since most of your heating will be at night. Wind is intermittent, but you will generate some power when you need it so your batteries might last longer. You might want to use both.

Heating it with compost or manure might be cheaper and more effective.

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 18:33:49 No.2722536 Report

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>>2722507
No problem

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Anonymous Sat 20 Apr 2024 21:40:34 No.2722600 Report

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>>2722513
Why not just wood stoves ?

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Anonymous Sun 21 Apr 2024 14:54:52 No.2722820 Report

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Has any of you done meat rabbits? Can you recommend it?

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 13:01:53 No.2723219 Report

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>>2722600
That would require me to constantly harvest firewood and feed the stove. If I ever forget to put wood in it or am unable to for whatever reason, all the plants will die.

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 15:08:03 No.2723262 Report

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Have you guys tried using a biogas generator for cooking/electricity/heat?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4_wZZBJIqy8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgd0t7Z_wHA

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 15:55:00 No.2723279 Report

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>>2691401
Dumbest post on the board rn. Bobcats will kill cats, dogs, livestock, anything they can. He can't kill ALL the bobcats, but killing any that come near his hens will put an end to the problem for now. Feeding it will just encourage it to come near humans and it will kill people's pets and livestock

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 15:58:56 No.2723281 Report

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>>2699302
>I wonder if I should put another one on the other side to prevent crowding.
No. Chicks naturally crowd up. You want to have a spot without the light directly above it so that they can move in/out of the light to manage their desired temperature.

Make sure you change their bedding periodically. They will get burns on their feet from urine in the bedding if you don't

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Anonymous Mon 22 Apr 2024 19:21:25 No.2723361 Report

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Bumping

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:30:57 No.2723553 Report

Quoted By: >>2723555 >>2723814 >>2723952

Anybody here use a european scythe? I need help figuring some things out.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:38:53 No.2723555 Report

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>>2723553
I'm just gonna throw it out here anyway. I got all this from the local hardware store and I've searched the internet for details but the two or three people who use these things out here aren't internet people.
I started with this peening jig. Anybody ever seen one like this? The guides are adjustable so you can get a first and second pass I guess, and I cannot find the right position and get it to do anything.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:40:11 No.2723556 Report

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>>2723555
I did get it to cut a little bit of grass using this instead, but.. hang on let me post another picture.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:44:55 No.2723557 Report

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>>2723556
I'm having trouble learning to stone it. I have no idea which of these is fine and coarse or whether on or both is medium.
The faded word/logo/name on the one on the right is L'Americana. There are no helpful details on the boxes or any web pages I could find with pictures resembling them.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:48:27 No.2723558 Report

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>>2723361
Wow. This is very interesting and extremely informative. Are there other volumes or related infographics you can share ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 06:58:25 No.2723559 Report

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>>2676569
Remember that you, per natural laws, you aren't meant to reap success from every seed you plant. It is natural to loose some along the way and accept this loss as nature's way of determining whose worth the survival. I advice you to stick to the primitive way of simply planting them and wait for one to sprout and not bother about efficiency nor time.

Also, in our small farm, we do have oranges that we planted years ago, none of them were the results of seed planting though. They all stem from cuttings. My dad used to tell me that current varieties of orange trees are so genetically modified comparing to their ancestral breeds most of them have lost the ability to reproduce naturally via seeds (unironically we'd call them castrated) or at least do so at very low success percentage.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 20:39:25 No.2723814 Report

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>>2723553
>>2723555
>>2723556
>>2723557
I'm still pretty new to scythes but I think I can help you. I don't have time to post about it now though.

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 21:26:01 No.2723824 Report

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>>2715670
>>2716579
I'm trying to escape eastern washington. We have California tier property prices and Mexico tier crime now. Where's a good place to try homesteading these days?

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Anonymous Tue 23 Apr 2024 22:09:07 No.2723830 Report

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Well seeing as the actual beekeeping thread is pretty much dead I'll just ask here.
I don't really care about large yields so much, but I would like to do beekeeping as a hobby.
I was looking at getting either a flow hive because the idea of being able to harvest individual frames pretty interesting.
Alternatively I was looking at a warre style hive because it seems to be better for the bees themselves even if it reduces honey production for harvest by me.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2024 03:34:42 No.2723952 Report

Quoted By: >>2724005

>>2723553
Looks like a good ditch blade.

>>2723555
That's different from my peening jig, but you should have a second insert. The first one is for drawing out the metal which is extremely important when repairing the edge. The second one bevels the edge to the proper angle so it can take an edge. The position of the guard looks fine, but my peening jig is very different from yours.

>>2723556
If you continue to use a regular anvil and hammer then you should get a smaller hammer so you avoid ruining your blade. Cutting is about technique and honing the blade more than peening. You shouldn't have needed to peen the blade unless it was completely dull when you got it.

>>2723557
You should be able to feel the difference. From the picture I'd guess that the one on the left is your course, artificial stone, and the one on the right is your medium, natural stone. Pic related is the proper sharpening angle. You shouldn't need to use the course stone very often and I'd recommend getting a short aluminum rod (1/4"-3/8" diameter) for stropping your blade. You'll strop it several times to restore the edge before you have to use your medium stone.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2024 08:35:25 No.2724005 Report

Quoted By: >>2724075

>>2723952
It was about as sharp as a halloween prop when I got it. Any factory edge it may have had probably died in the 1980's in the basement of that hardware store where the owner took 20 minutes to dig it up for me. It's starting to get a good bite though so it's all good.
As for the jig there was no second insert to speak of and no record of the thing even existing online. I'm fairly certain it's intended design is that you make a pass and then turn the wing nut, thus moving the guards forward and positioning the striking face closer to the edge for the next pass. This makes it more versatile than caps while also losing the whole point of a jig where you can peen without being capable of doing that. At least in my case a total beginner does better work freehand than with this thing. I'll probably never use it again.
The hammer is only 400g btw.
I'll see if I can find an aluminum rod and I'll assume the stones are how you described them and see how that works for me. Appreciate the input.

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Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2024 08:51:47 No.2724006 Report

Quoted By: >>2724631

Anyone got any nice tips for lamps, candles, and other forms of non-electrical lighting?

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Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2024 13:19:45 No.2724059 Report

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>>2719490
>want to go hiking in the woods and look at nature
>woman thinks I want to kill her in the woods
it's next to impossible to go hiking with a woman

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Anonymous Wed 24 Apr 2024 13:55:17 No.2724075 Report

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>>2724005
No problem. You should really consider getting a different peening jig. The one I have takes all the guesswork out of peening and repairing the blade and it only takes a couple minutes. I was recommending a smaller hammer so you have a smaller striking area, but if it works for you then keep at it. Once you get used to using a scythe you'll probably want to buy the biggest grass blade.you can find. Good luck, anon.

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Anonymous Fri 26 Apr 2024 04:41:08 No.2724631 Report

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>>2724006
Beware of fire; kills dozens of Amish children each decade

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 05:31:52 No.2725344 Report

Quoted By: >>2725359 >>2725365

Not "homesteading" but anyone ever buy an empty suburban (not housing tracts) lot in a low cost area and build a cheap house on it? How much did you spend total? Could I poorfag my way into that or would building regulations crush my dream immediately?

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 07:28:20 No.2725359 Report

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>>2725344
Cost of materials will crush your dream immediately. If you can do all the work yourself and build it to code then you'll save a lot of money, but you're still going to need tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars. You can get a building loan, but the bank probably won't approve one for a house you're building yourself.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 07:46:31 No.2725365 Report

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>>2725344
My grandfather did that but it was back in the 40s. The house had some quirks.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 14:13:01 No.2725427 Report

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I need help with a trap I'm building. Dogs are destroying everything and killing my chickens. Cheapest solution was to build a trap.
How can I trigger a guillotine style trap?
Whatever I hold the door up with has so much weight on it that I can't trigger it.

I saw some solution using a pin and mousetrap but it requires like 3 hairpin triggers setup at the same time and I can't figure it out. The mousetrap sets off when any weight is added to the trigger so using a teeter totter trigger doesn't make sense because a slight breeze will set it off. Also the wire that attaches from the actual metal bar of the mousetrap can only be set if the mousetrap is set, but if it goes off it's going to fuck up my hand by snaping the piece out of the door.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 15:01:04 No.2725433 Report

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>>2725427
The easiest solution would be to control your dogs. The next easiest solution would be to buy a chicken tractor to put your birds in. If they aren't your dogs and you can't afford/build a chicken tractor then set up motion activated sprinklers to keep dogs off your property.

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Anonymous Sun 28 Apr 2024 20:48:52 No.2725529 Report

Quoted By: >>2725735 >>2725892

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2024 08:15:03 No.2725735 Report

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>>2725529
Nice eggs.

Any of you anons find domestic egg shells more brittle that supermarket ones? Would make sense for the egg-logistics to prefent losses.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2024 13:54:38 No.2725815 Report

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>>2725735
Depends on your feed. If your shells are brittle then you can feed them egg shells, oyster shells, or another calcium source to help thicken them up.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2024 18:36:43 No.2725892 Report

Quoted By: >>2725927 >>2726197

>>2725529
I heard on /fit/ that higher quality eggs have darker yolks. Google tells me that it just depends on the chicken's diet and isn't indicative of nutritional density. What do you guys think?
I wouldn't be terribly shocked if Google was outright lying. I can't be certain though. I've tried dark almost red yolks and felt strong as hell and want to say they tasted healthy, but that could've been placebo. Also they were from a grocery store where you would think the quality would be lower, granted they don't carry them anymore. I don't know if people refused to eat them or if they cost too much to produce but I will never forgive them. Also I've seen plenty of weak looking light yellow yolks from independent chicken farmers so idk.

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Anonymous Mon 29 Apr 2024 20:30:45 No.2725927 Report

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>>2725892
It just has to do with the amount of vitamin A in their feed. An egg with a darker yolk will have more vitamin A, but it's not significant. You would get more by having a carrot with your eggs. If you want better eggs you'll have to get chickens and learn what dietary additives are best for them. I use feed fermented with apple cider vinegar and add garlic powder, charcoal, and cayenne pepper. There are a lot of other things you can add to their diet to improve their health and egg quality.

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Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2024 12:25:26 No.2726197 Report

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>>2725433
they aren't my dogs. The trick was using a ply that isn't as heavy.

The dogs came by last night and pissed on the trap but they didn't go in because I left the fucking hotdog package out there so they just ate that instead.

>>2725892
Yes, and I don't care what anyone else says. Same with vegetables they pretend they are the same

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Anonymous Tue 30 Apr 2024 15:26:35 No.2726258 Report

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they came back. mother fuckers pissed in the trap and took a shit on my potatoes.
I have kids and can’t do anything alone so forgot the hotdogs out there and they ate the whole package and left the ones in the trap alone.

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