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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 01:18:50 No.2709198 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>2709219 >>2709237 >>2710397

Say what you will but I'm happy UL changed the mindset of carrying ginormous backpacks to go spend a few days in the woods.
Gear used to be bulkier but the amount of useless garbage boomers and survival/milfag types used to take with them was retarded.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 02:48:46 No.2709219 Report

Quoted By: >>2709225

>>2709198
You’ve got a point on the useless gear boomers used to take,
But you ain’t ultra light my boy. Hikers like me laugh at shitheads like you. 15lb base weight? I’m 4lb base weight, and 80lbs lighter. I’m only putting 95lbs on the ground total. If I ever pass you on the trail (I’ll be at full sprint), you’ll see me smirk and know why.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 03:40:36 No.2709225 Report

Quoted By: >>2709629 >>2710366 >>2710367

>>2709219
>ultralight is for speed
Ray Jardine wrote his first book and kicked off the entire ultralight thing like 30 years ago and /out/ still hasn’t caught on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 16 Mar 2024 04:39:26 No.2709237 Report

Quoted By: >>2709604

>>2709198
>sack of potatoes: 20lbs
>weather balloon full of hydrogen: -20lbs
>net weight: 0lbs
problem, ultralightfags?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 18:42:48 No.2709604 Report

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>>2709237
Came here to post this. If you're not filling your gear with hydrogen to reduce weight and provide backup fuel you're a boomer. You may not like it but this is what peak ultralight looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 17 Mar 2024 21:27:43 No.2709629 Report

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>>2709225
>a board on a Bosnian Feng Shui decorating forum doesn't do things the way my celebrity crush does, here's why that's bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 07:18:19 No.2710366 Report

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>>2709225
>speed
>I want to spend as little time as possible at any given point in nature, and then when I finish I can throw my paper-thin, worn out gear directly in the trash can and buy more.

No thanks, hippie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 07:23:21 No.2710367 Report

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>>2709225
sorry about those 2 posters reading comprehension, anon. They don't realize they agree with you

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Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 08:43:41 No.2710386 Report

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>Boomers
Can afford to fly wherever the fuck they like

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 09:47:37 No.2710397 Report

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>>2709198
Ultralight is great. I don’t need to permanently fuck up my back after a decade of winter backpacking now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 20:49:41 No.2710543 Report

Quoted By: >>2710557 >>2712022

17 lb base weight with luxuries, generally. I like both foam (Switchback) and air mattress (Tensor) for sleep and 1st Need water purifier for excellent drinking. Everything else is UL.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 21:38:56 No.2710557 Report

Quoted By: >>2711951

>>2710543
>First Need
Are those still around? They sure as fuck aren't UL.
We used to call it the "sneed". (firStNEED)
Good ceramic matrix filter but chunky. Stupid plastic pump handle would snap in the cold.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 20 Mar 2024 22:00:58 No.2710568 Report

Quoted By: >>2711955 >>2712115

What's the /out/ law on UL? Is it distance/gradient/time consneeded?
I usually do 2 or 3 nights, out and back to primo sites. If it's about five miles out and less than 4k vert idgaf what my base(d) weight is, cause I'm not a twink and I carry lots of my wife's weight to keep her UL. I'll carry two chairs, burritos or chili verde and torts, and a water bottle of booze, though I'm not much of a drinker.
If I were going for 20 mile days in steep terrain and leaving the nagger at home then UL all the way, but that's a rare trip for me.
We still have light gear because why not but I doubt it matters much unless you're a hiking turbonerd.
My kind of fun is the local training run which is 4k vert in 4 miles. (6000 asl to 10000). Get it done and have choco milk on ice waiting in the car.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 21 Mar 2024 05:25:25 No.2710676 Report

Quoted By: >>2711955 >>2711983

My pack is 10lbs empty. Routinely go off trail exploring/trips for periods of time I don’t predetermine. I go in when I want, and come out when I want. 60lbs pack…no problem. But I also have a training routine that supports this kind of thing. If I’m hiking trails with my lady friend for a couple nights in the wild..sure, packing light is fun. But I grew up in the timberlands of the PNW..so just hiking some predetermined trail with a schedule and everything planned out…doesn’t really scratch the itch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 12:41:40 No.2711951 Report

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>>2710557
It's the only true purifier. Removes arsenic and lead from water contaminated by mine tailings. Used one for 25 years. My luxury item.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 13:02:04 No.2711955 Report

Quoted By: >>2711974

>>2710568
>>2710676
Packing light has nothing to do with how big you're or how much your train, if you're carrying less weight you can move faster and more comfortably.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 14:04:58 No.2711974 Report

Quoted By: >>2711983 >>2712014

>>2711955
>being stronger doesn't make it easier to carry more weight
>regular exercise won't improve your cardiovascular endurance
>the only way you move faster is by packing light
Okay buddy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 14:39:04 No.2711983 Report

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>>2711974
I don't understand what you mean. You can absolutely train to sustain performance at any pack weight but you'll move faster and enjoy a lower risk of injury at any strength level if you're carrying less.

>>2710676
The only law is "whatever the hell you want to do" but I typically keep my setup as light and similar as possible across trips so I don't forget or misplace anything. I'll bring stuff like a book, alcohol, or a Stanley thermos full of coffee if my objective is to find a nook and just relax for a day or so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 16:06:34 No.2712014 Report

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>>2711974
Learn to read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 16:29:33 No.2712022 Report

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>>2710543
Same, my backpack, tent and mat is ultralight so I can take whiskey and a few other non essentials. Long distance hiking for me is also a vacation, so I try to live it up as much as possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 17:31:05 No.2712043 Report

Quoted By: >>2712060 >>2712109

You don't do anything in the woods so of course you don't need to bring anything. Some of us like to hunt and fish, build our shelters and furniture, and otherwise practice short term survival and long term subsistence skills that require significant experience to get good at like creating bows and arrows and traps, curing meat, brain tanning hides, making charcoal, weaving cordage, basic metalworking with scrap sources, game calling, but you don't need to worry about that stuff because you have no intention of living in nature whether by necessity or choice, you just want to walk somewhere, photograph some view at a designated overlook point on a trail, and then walk back, and call 911 when you get lost. You don't need gear to do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 17:52:17 No.2712060 Report

Quoted By: >>2712062

>>2712043
This is /out/'s equivalent of navy seals pasta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 17:54:09 No.2712062 Report

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>>2712060
It's just the truth. If you're not doing anything then you don't need anything. The old timers were actually doing shit, that's why they carried gear. Read Kephart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 18:02:10 No.2712067 Report

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Ultralight gear is great because it makes it easier to bring all kinds of luxury garbage like my boomer dslr and tripod, field guides for bug and mushroom collecting and my binoculars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 20:39:56 No.2712109 Report

Quoted By: >>2712114 >>2712152

>>2712043
As meme worthy as the bush crafty chop chop justification is, yes. You are correct. When your only goal is to walk from point a to point b as fast as possible (because being slower means youre out the longer which means more consumables to carry) and all you need is food, barely enough water for half a day because you've mapped out and timed every water source in between, and a sleeping pad because it's summer your shit can be really fucking light.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 20:46:39 No.2712114 Report

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>>2712109
>speed
It really doesn’t end with you retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 20:49:01 No.2712115 Report

Quoted By: >>2712153

>>2710568
I mean I train rucking at 40-60lbs depending on the meso but when it comes time for "race day" (that days or weeks-long trek you've planned your year's vacation time around) knowing how to cut as much excess shit as you can is as valuable a skill as being able to carry more.

Min-maxing one over the other is suboptimal. Shore up your weaknesses before chasing your strengths.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 22:18:27 No.2712152 Report

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>>2712109
I'm still faster because most of my basic survival gear is EDC, so my body is adapted to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 24 Mar 2024 22:19:46 No.2712153 Report

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>>2712115
Everything I own combined weighs less than that.

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