>>4285892well i think it's something that you need to use judiciously. just like you would only ever use 3200 film in special situations back in the day, yes, its grainy and detail goes, but it is usable. My point was more that the "conventional wisdom" would have you believe that you might as well throw your camera away because the images won't be tack sharp at those isos. I think its an acceptable tradeoff. picrel is delta3200. yes, the grain ("noise") is quite noticeable and fine detail goes as a result, but this image is fine. i feel like it's just more of the typical autistic gearfagging as usual.