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>Everything looks shit over 1600
>Even 400 is pushing it
You guys either have ridiculously high standards, in which case I hope you only ever shoot at 100 on the latest and greatest full frame on a tripod stopped down to the optimum aperture, or you're using decade old crop bodies. You need to stop caring so much. I have no qualms going up to even 12800 if I need to, most situations are 6400 and below so I don't care at all.