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TERRY: At one point we were totally broke and I tracked down some of his old negatives at French Vogue and places like that - he had none of them - and I remember going to Bruce Weber and Steven Meisel to sell them prints. Bruce was very kind. He said he'd always loved my father's pictures, and he bought some. And Steven did too.
BRUCE: Don't you have a Robert Downey Jr. story?
TERRY: We were like nine or ten and we smoked weed and played "Cream the Carrier."
BRUCE: What's that?
TERRY: You know, you run around and tackle each other and get the person into a position until they say "Uncle." I didn't see him again until years later, I was 22 and running these underground clubs in LA - Viva La Revolution and Dr. T's - and he came into one of them.
BRUCE: Where were those clubs?
TERRY: Downtown. MacArthur Park and below was where all the cool underground clubs were. The '80s in L.A. were really amazing and decadent.
BRUCE: So-Cal punk is legendary.
TERRY: Yeah, I saw The Germs and Black Flag when I was a little kid.
BRUCE: Were you around when Penelope Spheeris was shooting The Decline of Western Civilization?
TERRY: Yeah, I went to the premier at Graumann's Chinese. The police barricaded off Hollywood Boulevard because they thought there would be a riot — which there was. But Decline, man ... I mean, no disrespect to New York Hardcore, but the SoCal punk scene was the scene as far as I'm concerned, with all those real cute Huntington Beach surfer skinhead boys.
BRUCE: And you were in the band Doggie Style — you caught the tail end of Doggie Style. Were you on Doggie Style II, with the Led Zeppelin cover?
TERRY: Just after that. I was in SSA before that, and a band called Baby Fist from Ventura. I was in a lot of garage bands, I had a lot of fun.