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Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2024 06:57:18 No.4307994 View View Reply Original Report

Quoted By: >>4309551

>all of the cameras use a sony sensor
>doesn't matter the price, even at $8000 you get a snoy in a box

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2024 07:05:28 No.4307996 Report

Quoted By: >>4309550 >>4309556

Aside from Canon, what brands make their own sensors? I know Kodak used to make sensors, or at least they did for some other brands like Olympus.

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Anonymous Sat 27 Apr 2024 11:52:21 No.4308018 Report

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Didn't Panasonic get a non-snoy sensor for the G9ii?

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 16:41:41 No.4309550 Report

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>>4307996
Canon also seem to use those type 1 Sony sensors.

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 16:50:04 No.4309551 Report

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>>4307994
The sensor is a monochrome photon counter, nothing more, and sony builds them to client specs under sony's rules. It's often not the same sensors they use in their own cameras, which is why you dont see nikon using the a7riv or a7iv sensor ever and they've been using revisions of the d750 and d850 sensors instead.

CFA specs and signal processing, which actually matter for more than signal to noise ratio and readout speed, vary by brand, and its been theorized that sony draws up contracts affecting these that cripple their competition if they buy a sony sensor, ie:
>fuji can only have sony's next gen 40mp APS-C sensors if fuji does not make an APS-C camera with a bayer array, as the resolution increase from switching back to the superior CFA would BTFO the entire a6 line and sony would lose their entire APS-C customer base (and probably some FF users) to fuji.
>nikon receives semi-crippled sensors for fps/video simply because they are significantly better at making cameras and lenses than sony, resulting in nikon to struggle to support competitive sports/video features - hence nikon's recent purchase of RED - and therefore RED's contracts with non-sony sensor suppliers. sony probably straight up told them that they would never provide nikon with global shutter technology and that was it.
>LEGALLY POSSIBLE WITH LOTS OF NDAS: Sony can theoretically say "we will give you this sensor, but this list of features must not be supported until X amount of time has passed" in a contract, making them an unseen hand in controlling the entire camera market and maintaining their #2 position

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Anonymous Thu 02 May 2024 16:57:45 No.4309552 Report

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Selling out to snoy was a mistake

cANON

cANON Thu 02 May 2024 17:26:22 No.4309556 Report

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>>4307996
None.
Panasonic sold off their fabs several years ago and Kodak did well before that.
Supposedly, Nikon sourced one or more sensors from TowerJazz for the D700/800 line.
Sigma had Foveon manufactured by Dongbu, but, reportedly, that ended as a result of them fucking up the full frame design.
Phase One might still get theirs from Dalsa. Though, I'm not sure who the supplier is after they transitioned to CMOS.
I also haven't heard who Leica gets their 30x45mm stuff from.

cANON

cANON Thu 02 May 2024 17:45:49 No.4309564 Report

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>>4309550
Canon's used Sony for many of their compacts.

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