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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 17:29:29 No.4314064 View View Reply Original Report

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Do zoomers care about CCD videography? I have some old VHS video cameras I restored that have 1/2" CCD sensors inside and they look great if you bypass the tape and export the raw video right to a capture card.
I've been trying to market myself to zoomers who want the VHS effect but nobody is biting .

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 17:32:45 No.4314068 Report

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 17:40:18 No.4314071 Report

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raw CCD output

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 17:42:00 No.4314072 Report

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 18:01:41 No.4314074 Report

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At this point I got about 2 hours of VHS recordings from the last year. I've posted it to YT and even tried tiktok with zero exposure

cANON

cANON Wed 15 May 2024 18:08:45 No.4314075 Report

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>>4314071
That actually does look pretty good.
What's this one from?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 18:14:26 No.4314078 Report

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>>4314075
an 80s Panasonic camera, in low light it gets noisy, but in daylight it does well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 18:42:49 No.4314086 Report

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Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 18:46:03 No.4314087 Report

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>>4314064
just make a v/h/s ripoff and people will ate that shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 19:44:26 No.4314099 Report

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>>4314087
I can do plenty of VHS recordings but I want to make some money off this. If I could sell sessions for $40 I could pay for all the equipment and batteries I bought in 2 sessions. I have two identical cameras so I can even go for the multi-angle artistc approachic

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 20:00:12 No.4314105 Report

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>>4314064
I'm a little confused here, what's going on?
I understand you are hacking old cameras and shooting to a secondary slave device rather than recording to VHS, but this looks decent.

Was interlacing shit done between the sensor readout and writing to VHS and did you bypass that for a real 60p global shutter 640x480 feed? or did you de-interlace this? or is this footage sped up?

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 20:09:55 No.4314109 Report

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>>4314105
Thats true but thats not what I did for that video.

Like you said, I can do it that - do a direct video out from the camera to a capture card - which will give me a 29.97 fps 480i uncompressed file, which I then filter and deinterlace into 60fps progressive file (and then make mp4s or webms from it)

I can also the do the same thing BUT record to tape, and then feed a tape player video out to the capture card.. etc. Thats what's going on in that webm.

What you are seeing is a de-interlaced 60fps video, more closely to what "tape" video actually looked like. Tape CAN look good provided you have a decent quality tape/capture path. Throughout the 90s/00s however the only way to digitize tapes was to record them to DVDs at whatever shitty resolution the player gave you, locked in at 29fps interlaced footage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 20:30:19 No.4314118 Report

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>>4314064
what vhs camera has a 1/2" ccd? I would be interested in buying that

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 21:25:26 No.4314150 Report

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>>4314064
No.
Loi > Looking unintentionally like actual shit from the anus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 21:27:58 No.4314152 Report

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>>4314064
No.
LoFi > Looking unintentionally like shit. > Looking intentionally like actual shit from the anus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 21:29:48 No.4314154 Report

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>>4314118
Most cameras from the 80s I think. By the time VHS-C cameras came around they switched to 1/8" sensors

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 21:49:32 No.4314162 Report

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>>4314064
Broooooo. I got this big bitch and would love to not hassle with vhs tapes. I really like the look of the video it produces.

Can you recommend me a portable capture card, possibly with a screen? The ccd viewfinder is in b&w, so I can't confirm the white balance is properly set.

I have a vhs player + capture card + obs that I use to record my videos with, but a portable solution would be so much better.

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Anonymous Wed 15 May 2024 21:50:34 No.4314164 Report

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>>4314064
Oops. Forgot pic. Got this for 80 bucks at an auction. In the 90s these cameras were over 7k dollars new.

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Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 01:03:14 No.4314229 Report

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>>4314164
Nice, you got an SVHS tape and an SVCR too? hell yeah

i tried using one of those Ninja portable HD screens but it doesnt accept the lowest resolution of the camera input

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 01:06:09 No.4314231 Report

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>>4314154
>>4314164
Oh I thought you meant like a camcorder. That makes more sense, but I'm not willing to take a shoulder mount camera with me places

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Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 01:12:14 No.4314232 Report

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>>4314231
I do mean like a camcorder. These 80s panasonics have 1/2" CCD sensors which may actually be M43 sensor sized.
The smaller late 90s handheld ones are more portable but the sensor is smaller too

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 01:30:57 No.4314236 Report

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>>4314229
I have a svhs tape, but not player for it. If I realized I would have gotten one instead of my stinky normal vhs player.

My concern is that the video out is those older ports.

Oh yeah, the damn things weighs way too much. I can only shoulder it for like 10-15 mins at a time. You'd also look like a maniac filming at the post office with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 02:54:13 No.4314265 Report

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>>4314236
you will need a special connector in order to get svideo direct output https://www.avsforum.com/threads/oddball-jvc-7-pin-y-c-to-standard-s-video.1442427/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 03:39:30 No.4314277 Report

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>>4314071
>composite video
>raw
i hate to break it to you anon, but it is heavily processed, and not raw. for fucks sakes you even have a date overlay

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 03:45:21 No.4314280 Report

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>>4314277
Youre right, raw was the wrong word. What I shouldve said was that the image was a direct video output from the camera, as opposed to recording to a vhs tape then capturing the footage from the tape.
This removes the middleman step.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 04:34:18 No.4314294 Report

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>>4314265
Fug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 04:36:43 No.4314295 Report

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Sovl.
HD video was a mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 16 May 2024 19:09:46 No.4314461 Report

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>>4314295
Early tube HD cameras are a marvel and have plenty of sovl. It's only when everything went CMOS that the soul was sucked out.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YW26YMe8iUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbBuBRY3iJ8

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 14:05:07 No.4314701 Report

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>>4314461
>1035i
>upscaled

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 14:08:10 No.4314702 Report

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>>4314109

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 19:16:48 No.4314785 Report

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Meant to take a picture

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 20:22:30 No.4314805 Report

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 20:23:39 No.4314806 Report

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>>4314702
So good

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 20:41:01 No.4314810 Report

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Comp cuz webm is a pain in the ass

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Anonymous Fri 17 May 2024 21:37:20 No.4314829 Report

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Anonymous Sat 18 May 2024 07:40:38 No.4314935 Report

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These are really cool. It's disappointing no one wanted to hire you. How do you record directly to a capture card on these? I assume there is a cable for direct TV out, is someone making retrofit units to take SD cards that you plug in from the external out port?

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Zach Sat 18 May 2024 17:30:06 No.4315034 Report

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>>4314785
I already took mine

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2024 01:55:52 No.4315778 Report

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>>4314805
>>4314810
>>4314829
what camera is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2024 05:58:35 No.4315812 Report

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>>4315778
First two are off a FinePix S5800 and last one is Pentax Optio Z10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 21 May 2024 06:00:03 No.4315813 Report

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>>4315034
Nice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2024 00:43:22 No.4316091 Report

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>>4314236
> Oh yeah, the damn things weighs way too much. I can only shoulder it for like 10-15 mins at a time. You'd also look like a maniac filming at the post office with it.

pussy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2024 05:15:53 No.4316176 Report

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>>4316091
I gotta work up to it. It may be a combo of weight + uncomfortable shoulder pad.

You don't understand the temptation I have to do a 1st amendment audit with a huge 90s TV broadcast like camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 22 May 2024 09:46:07 No.4316223 Report

Quoted By: >>4317861

>>4314064
Do you sell these on ebay or something? I'd be interested

Zach

Zach Thu 23 May 2024 16:47:17 No.4316751 Report

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>>4315813
Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 24 May 2024 22:38:27 No.4317139 Report

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I have one but the battery is junk and the tape drive keeps chewing up my tapes. Did you battery work or did you have to diy a battery for it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 26 May 2024 17:07:30 No.4317648 Report

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>>4314935
2nd this question I’m interested as well in learning more. Best of luck OP I think it looks cool as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 May 2024 12:35:16 No.4317861 Report

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>>4316223
Do I sell the ones I fix up? Not currently. I'd like to make a video service using multiple vhs cameras as kind of a home-movies-vibe but with a little extras kick
>>4317139
They still make brand new batteries for my cameras, they're about $35 each and can last 1-1.5 hours

>>4317648
>>4314935
its a complex process that involves the video-out jack on the camera to a VCR and a TBC, which is then connected to a USB/AV adaptor into the computer, where it is captured raw, around 28 GBs per hour.
Then you filter and clean the video, then run it through a deinterlacer and eventually down to an x264/x265 codect to your final mp4 which can then be shared on social media,websites,youtube like i did here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQoCyteuDck

unfortunately YT's processing make the video look worse than the original

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 May 2024 13:29:39 No.4317869 Report

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>>4317861
>28 GBs/hr
Anon of Quality, you can get YT to encode at better quality by rendering vid in high res container
Sticking it in 4k gives higher bitrate for *final* encodes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 May 2024 13:32:03 No.4317870 Report

Quoted By: >>4317877

>>4317869
The issue is that these videos are captured at 720x480 and deinterlaced to 480p. If you know an upscaler that can go from 480 to 4K im all ears but i think it would look just as bad if not worse than the "HQ 480" mode that youtube has now

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 27 May 2024 14:18:27 No.4317877 Report

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>>4317870
DaVinci Resolve has several upscale options. I believe setting your timeline to 4k (could always export at lower res, say 1080) is one way of doing it automatically.

If you play around with encoding several test vids at different resolutions/bitrates and upload them to youtube to compare you will see the benefits of increased bitrate.
Check out some youtube upload bitrate/resolution test vids, some pretty good quality is possible.

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Anonymous Fri 31 May 2024 19:35:28 No.4319556 Report

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>>4317877
Thanks man. I have that program actually but never use it, I'll see what it can do. if it can import 480p or even 720p video then thats a good start.

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Anonymous Tue 04 Jun 2024 21:00:19 No.4321098 Report

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