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/gear/ containment thread - XT5 FF upgrade? | A7C II vs R8?

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:12:31 No.4445820 View View Reply Original Report

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Hey /p/,

1. I’ve got a Fuji X-T5 and want to upgrade to full-frame but keep size and weight close or lighter. Need no downgrade in IQ.

Any thoughts on Sony A7C II vs Canon R8 for that? Or hidden gems I’m missing?

R8 lacks IBIS. Can that be fully compensated with stabilized lenses or handheld techniques?

2. Thoughts? Other recs? What’s /p/’s preffered mirrorless Camera? APS-C? Is MF really /p/’s go-to choice for upgrades now, or just flexing?

3. Ricoh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:14:38 No.4445821 Report

Quoted By: >>4445822 >>4445869 >>4445877 >>4445934

Also, someone on /p/ said to skip FF entirely and just go medium format (GFX or Hassy). Is that actually a thing now? Seems overkill for portability and price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:18:29 No.4445822 Report

Quoted By: >>4445827

>>4445821
>>4445820
Do you have any idea how much of a retard you sound? Typical braindead Fujifag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:25:08 No.4445827 Report

Quoted By: >>4445899

>>4445822
Based. Glad you read it all despite your brain injury. Still open to recs if your fingers can type them out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:33:23 No.4445828 Report

Quoted By: >>4445840 >>4445942

>>4445820
>Need no downgrade in IQ.
is this ironic shitposting or something? Fuji IS the downgrade, all you can do is go up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:56:19 No.4445840 Report

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>>4445828
Why?

Fuji’s IQ is solid enough. I’ve seen direct comparisons between the X-T5 and full-frame, and in good light, the differences are minimal.
I’m just looking to move up where it actually counts, without going heavier or losing features like IBIS.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 13:59:02 No.4445843 Report

Quoted By: >>4445861 >>4445909

Can someone pls try to address 1,2,3?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:13:24 No.4445861 Report

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>>4445843
fuck off retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:42:42 No.4445869 Report

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>>4445821
Only worth it for the 100mp models and only if IQ is your absolute #1 priority above all else. FF is still better in many ways.
I too am selling my X-T5 soon, but I picked up a Zf as side grade to a 50R and never looked back. Z5II is solid option now.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:42:52 No.4445870 Report

Quoted By: >>4445872 >>4445874

>>4445820
GR is based, I run a IIIx for daily life and errands and a regular fullframe setup for cooler stuff. In my experience it's not the size of the body that counts (as long as it isn't genuinely enormous like a pro DSLR) but rather the lens, so if you get something like a Z mount camera with small rangefinder lenses (this combination specifically because Z has the thinnest sensor glass besides Leica) it will be very comfortable dimensionally, if you don't mind manual focus

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:49:04 No.4445872 Report

Quoted By: >>4445880 >>4445934

>>4445820
>>4445870
But if you need AF while keeping things compact as you mentioned, you can't go too wrong with Sigma contemporary stuff, E or L mount depending on your taste in body - either will work. Even going for a larger body than the A7C won't be that much of a difference to your X-T5 and either way it'll be worth it once you see how the files BTFO your x-trans sensor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:53:20 No.4445874 Report

Quoted By: >>4445878

>>4445870
z-mount (z5II/zf/z6iii/z8) also has the best MF functionality with adapted mf glass of any system

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 14:59:51 No.4445877 Report

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>>4445820
Sony or zf

>>4445821
Can you afford a hasselblad 907x, cfv100c, and two primes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:01:10 No.4445878 Report

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>>4445874
I wish the Z7ii weren't so fucking UGLY with its pre-redesign viewfinder hump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:01:56 No.4445880 Report

Quoted By: >>4445882 >>4445887

>>4445872
L mount cameras are poorly made and incompetently developed, like they are trying to be bad. Fuji outsells them with half the IQ. Panasonics solution is to make influencers lie instead of releasing better shitb

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:04:58 No.4445882 Report

Quoted By: >>4445883

>>4445880
Even the SL cameras are rattly, buggy shit with pretty bad autofocus. They exist solely for dumb studio boomers who think the brand name is magic. Panasonic exists for those same people, for when they can't afford leica but believe in the power of brand adjacency (sony also did this with zeiss, because during the zeiss partnership their cameras were fucking shit)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:06:07 No.4445883 Report

Quoted By: >>4445889

>>4445882
Yep. And don't even get me started about snoy. Only Fuji cameras are good, I have over 300 of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:11:47 No.4445887 Report

Quoted By: >>4445889 >>4445934

>>4445880
>rattly, buggy shit
Clearly never even breathed the same air as one IRL. Cope poorfag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:14:53 No.4445888 Report

Quoted By: >>4445892

Went from xt3 to a7cii. Don‘t do it. It‘s small there are nice lenses, great iq but the cam is ugly, annoying loud shutter sound and its not fun. Then i couldnt get back to shitty apsc IQ and sacrificed sice to get the gfx50sii. Probably should have bought the zf instead. GR is also good and sharper than any fuji apsc/lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:15:48 No.4445889 Report

Quoted By: >>4445891 >>4445893

>>4445887
It took them over a year to acknowledge and fix this
https://leicarumors.com/2024/07/11/the-leica-sl3-camera-overwriting-deleting-images-issue-confirmed-by-leica.aspx/amp/

>>4445883
Snoy is good now, but only if you like warm cameras and battery life that tanks if you use the menu

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:17:45 No.4445890 Report

Quoted By: >>4445893 >>4445894

No mention of Canon? Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:17:51 No.4445891 Report

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>>4445889
>Snoy is good now,
It makes you look like shrek
warped distorted green skin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:19:11 No.4445892 Report

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>>4445888
>it didnt match my purse and had a manly clack instead of a cute feminine click
Sony if you wear north face, zf if you wear predatorrat, big film if you wear a fursuit, simple as

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:19:34 No.4445893 Report

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>>4445889
>It took them over a year to acknowledge and fix this
A single body and a single issue rarely caused by boomers fumbling.
>>4445890
Mount too closed off to recommend. Unless you already have EF glass and an adapter and don't mind fuckhuge primes

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:20:12 No.4445894 Report

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>>4445890
Hugely overpriced pro shit and crippled consumer shit, and their pro shit makes snoy look good unless you’re a video autist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:27:43 No.4445899 Report

Quoted By: >>4445902 >>4445905

>>4445827
All right, I will give you the distilled main thing about MF digital.
Ask yourself, do you absolutely have to produce big prints and does your income predominantly depends on the quality of these big prints? If not then you don't need MF.
Do you need quick and reliable AF? If yes then stay away from spending money on MF.
MF is specific in what it does good that if you need to ask if MF is better or FF from upgrading from your APS-C system then you don't need MF. Just stick with FF, for the majority of everyday photography (including pro and art photography) you can do with FF or even with APS-C system.
If you really do want to move away from your Fuji APS-C system then look around the market, look for photos you like and with what system it was made with and rent it out for a week or two, then rent something else. Then decide on what to buy. Just forget about MF.

Ps.: modern digital MF is not much bigger than FF. Film 645 has considerably larger frames than digital 645. Digital 645 is basically FF with higher pixel density, the emphasis is on the lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:29:14 No.4445901 Report

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Is the Samsung 28mp sensor any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:31:03 No.4445902 Report

Quoted By: >>4445906

>>4445899
>its only for prints and pixel peeping
Its for tonality, rendering, and clean high ISOs you hylic

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:33:48 No.4445905 Report

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>>4445899
>look for photos you like and with what system it was made with
Single best advice in the thread. I have done this with lenses and always very happy with the purchase.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:35:03 No.4445906 Report

Quoted By: >>4445908

>>4445902
>tonality
Lol all those sensors are the same brand and type, only Fuji managed to fuck up the colors on theirs. Just ask any Hassy user why they didn't go for the cheaper GFX if it is the same sensor.
Good to see /p/ nophotos still fall for the marketing buzzwords

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:38:58 No.4445908 Report

Quoted By: >>4445915

>>4445906
Because the hasselblad is smaller and looks cooler? The meme colors are only in phocus and most people just use lightroom

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:39:53 No.4445909 Report

Quoted By: >>4445912 >>4445922 >>4446001 >>4446005

>>4445843
>R8 lacks IBIS. Can that be fully compensated with stabilized lenses or handheld techniques?
Pretty much every lens that Canon makes for RF has lens IS so IBIS is kind of redundant. The only lenses off the top of my head that don't are the 50mm f/1.8, 28mm f/2.8 and the 28-70mm f/2. Handheld techniques to stabilise will vary person to person but depending on what you're shooting, it's not going to be consistent enough.
>Thoughts? Other recs? What’s /p/’s preffered mirrorless Camera? APS-C?
There is zero consensus on any topic regarding gear. You'll get three different opinions from any given anon depending on the temperature of the room and what kind of moon cycle we've got. I'd say go R10 or R6 for Canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:46:29 No.4445912 Report

Quoted By: >>4445923 >>4446193

>>4445909
Lens IS is 3 stop, nikon IBIS is 8 stop, sony IBIS is 7 stop. There's a huge difference here and canon cripples more than just that. Budget canon is basically micro four thirds, but ugly and blob.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:53:03 No.4445915 Report

Quoted By: >>4445928

>>4445908
Well, would you look at the little faggot! Tonality was based a couple posts before now colors are a meme? Lmao fuck off you nonsense little shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 15:54:39 No.4445918 Report

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>>4445820
I have an a7c and I've used a Fuji xt-5

The a7c might be lighter but it's more uncomfortable to hold due to the smaller grip.

I'm thinking about selling my zoom lenses because of this, just shooting those compact primes instead. I just want a camera that can swing in my neck and I don't have the strap digging into my skin

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:04:23 No.4445922 Report

Quoted By: >>4445927 >>4445934 >>4445948

>>4445909
> 0 consensus

It looks like most of the ppl on /p/ tend to avoid Fuji for some reason?
Isn't the XT5 crisper the Ricoh GR or on par with other FF sensors? It's 40 MP after all...

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:08:27 No.4445923 Report

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>>4445912
>Lens IS is 3 stop
I get 3 stops from my 20 year old EF zoom. RF lenses give closer to 5 stops in practice. IBIS also doesn't help as much with ultrawides or telephotos. I'd much rather have actual OIS.
Canon are cripplefucking chuds, and I failed to mention a few other lenses without IS, but RF's greatest weakness is the narrow apertures on their zooms and the forced corrections.

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:16:11 No.4445927 Report

Quoted By: >>4445929 >>4446195

>>4445922
Fuji are wormy memes. M43 is a cult meme. Nikon can't hit focus meme. Canon cripplehammers everything not a $6000 flagship meme. Snoy makes everything green meme. Ricoh sucks dust harder than a whore on Saturday meme. You can't really win. Doesn't matter what you go with there's 10 anons here at any point that'll call you a retard for buying it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:17:18 No.4445928 Report

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>>4445915
>Color calibration is tonality
Lmao no, tonality is basically color depth/bit depth plus resolution.

medium format shoots 16 bit raws and can actually fill those 16 bits with accurate info, and the resolution is a major factor here. 100mp bayer is about 80mp non-bayer, or the peak resolution of scanned 6x7 slide film, which gives it the same ability to record gradients and surface textures as 6x7 slide film if you simply resize your files to a saner size. digital accuracy IS tonality. film had practically infinite "bits" and covered deep, saturated colors most digitals still cant record. LF film is even better than a 150mp MFDB, and is still produced because basically no one needs that resolution every day and shooting film is actually more cost effective than shooting digital there.

100mp dx medium format is the point where photos start approximating life better. the camera does less reduction, and things that would be messy and harsh on a lesser camera start to look more structured because all the fine shading and color differences were preserved and give things more shape and separation. if you're a skin tone autist or shoot landscapes in a place with actual woods medium format is it, either go 100mp or buy a 6x9 camera.

even when you reduce your files to a shit ass 4chan jpeg to show them to some loser furfag weeaboo that doesn't matter, a lot of the color/shading/texture is still going to be there and lesser sensors will look more contrasty and plasticky in the same scenarios.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:19:42 No.4445929 Report

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>>4445927
>sony makes everything green
except, they dont make everything green

some flaws of the a7c and a7cii are cheap feeling buttons, log gamma like default color science (its 90% their lenses 10% their sensor), noisy very high ISOs, 80s consumer autofocus SLR tier ergonomics, shitty viewfinders, poor battery life, and weather sealing below the standard of the a7iv/a7riv

but they dont make everything green. more like dull beige with harsh contrasty red splotches.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:31:04 No.4445934 Report

Quoted By: >>4445938 >>4445941 >>4445948

>>4445922
It's fine, OP is just a faggot who thinks FF will look a lot better. In reality the difference isn't quite as big, and 40mp allows you to crop a lot. Just shoot in good light. Source: used to own one, don't anymore.
>>4445820
What the fuck do you expect to get if you don't even give out any criteria? It's not like one camera body is magically better than the others. Afaik Z6/A7III/R6 are not too different. Stop looking at the bodies and look at the lenses. Fuji glass is pretty good for what is available for aps-c.
>>4445821
At that point just start shooting large format film
>>4445872
lmao. did you buy into the l-mount meme?
>>4445887
Literally the cheapest shit you can get brand new. The lenses are pretty OK and the original S5 was fine, but at least my copy of the S5II was utter shit. Lucky got a good deal on it so could sell it without any losses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:34:58 No.4445938 Report

Quoted By: >>4445940

>>4445934
The difference is pretty big, actually. Fuji files always look flat and ugly. Like shitty lab scans of kodak ultramax.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:41:20 No.4445940 Report

Quoted By: >>4445941 >>4445943 >>4446002 >>4446051

>>4445938
They look fine, sounds like you are doing something wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:42:07 No.4445941 Report

Quoted By: >>4445944

>>4445940
>>4445934
this doesn't look good
you have tiktok induced brainrot
>LE GRAINY HECKIN NOSTALGIA BRO
>CHONKERS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:42:22 No.4445942 Report

Quoted By: >>4445943

>>4445828
>muh xtrans pixel is actually 3/4 of bayer pixel
t. adobe dev

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:44:27 No.4445943 Report

Quoted By: >>4445947 >>4445952

>>4445940
>they look fine
Ken rockwell "every lens is sharp" moment

>>4445942
An xtrans pixel is actually 1/2 a bayer pixel if something is a mostly red or mostly blue texture

This can be a desirable skin smoothing effect for some people, if you edit raws, turn off unsharp mask, and paid fuji $2k+ to use your "40mp" camera as an 8mp camera in the end

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:45:46 No.4445944 Report

Quoted By: >>4446051

>>4445941
That's Ultramax you fucking moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:48:43 No.4445947 Report

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>>4445943
Xtranny sacrifices a bit of chroma (about 10%) for a bit more luma, in the end it's purely a demosaicing problem. The best xtranny algos do multiple passes and that computational constraint is likely why the GFX went back to bayer, but otherwise there's no loss in quality with a decent software.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 16:52:56 No.4445948 Report

Quoted By: >>4445951 >>4445952 >>4446817

>>4445922
>Isn't the XT5 crisper the Ricoh GR or on par with other FF sensors? It's 40 MP after all...
It's not a great sensor.
https://phillipreeve.net/blog/review-fujifilm-x100vi-the-hype-camera/
I tried an X-T5 with the new 16-50 lens for a while and it simply cannot be compared to the GR. Fuji is smartphone tier, really. 40MP is especially memetic at APS-C with much smaller pixel size running your low-light performance into the dirt. The GR is really the ultimate snapshit camera, pic rel is one I took the other day using the close-up function.
>>4445934
>Literally the cheapest shit you can get brand new.
I'm talking about SL. Never handled Panasonic in my life. SL however is excellent.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:05:01 No.4445951 Report

Quoted By: >>4446817

>>4445948
Another GR snapshit

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:05:15 No.4445952 Report

Quoted By: >>4445955

>>4445948
SL? Sure, why not. And I wouldn't call fuji smartphone tier (picrel) but I sold that system just because if I wanted to take a smaller camera with I was just taking my ricoh.

>>4445943
Sharpened for print, so it's a bit crisp on digital. Couldn't care enought to do another export.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:10:03 No.4445955 Report

Quoted By: >>4445956 >>4445959 >>4445961 >>4445966

>>4445952
I took about 1000 pictures with the X-T5. Details are mushy as hell, like they've been denoised via some smartphone algorithm.
X-T5 + 16-50mm f2.8-4.8, ISO 400, 28.7mm, f/6.4, 1/120, 100% zoom

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:11:23 No.4445956 Report

Quoted By: >>4445966 >>4445987

>>4445955
+ full size. Fullres image is beyond filesize limits so this'll have to do unfortunately.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:16:26 No.4445959 Report

Quoted By: >>4445960 >>4445962

>>4445955
That just looks like you turned raw sharpening off. Or then the new kit zoom just sucks. This is 35mm f1.4 (the old one) at f4. Default lightroom sharpening, 100% zoom. Screenshot just because.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:18:52 No.4445960 Report

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>>4445959
And fullsize. Exported at 2000px wide edge and max 5000KB.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:19:59 No.4445961 Report

Quoted By: >>4445962

>>4445955
>let's evaluate a sensor based on corner crops from a kit lens stopped down past optimal sharpness

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:21:14 No.4445962 Report

Quoted By: >>4445963 >>4445964 >>4445966 >>4445968

>>4445959
Still seeing mushiness there (lol)
Here is another crop with the zoom... also at ISO400
>>4445961
Center crops, not corner. Also this particular kit lens is supposed to work well with the 40MP sensor, unless it's just marketing bullshit?

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:22:18 No.4445963 Report

Quoted By: >>4445964 >>4445987

>>4445962
ISO 400, 27.1mm, f/3.6, 1/600

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:24:01 No.4445964 Report

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>>4445962
>>4445963

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:28:47 No.4445966 Report

Quoted By: >>4445970 >>4445972 >>4445975

>>4445955
>>4445956
>>4445962
>let me zoom at 500% on a wide shot

So, a zoomed-in portion of a wide 23mm picture, that's likely not exactly at the focus distance, with a zoom lens that's far from exceptional?

I don't know what more you expect, unless what you show is exactly what you focused on, and not on the corner of the frame, this is what you should expect from any landscape shot, anything within hyperfocal will look "in focus" unless you pixel peep.

Pixel peeping is not how pictures are looked at. You either look at a compressed image on the internet, or a print, and for both cases that's more than enough information density.

Pic related is a 500% zoom on a landscape picture taken with a sony A7RV and a 24mm lens. Yeah it's Sony focus magic, yeah it's bayer, yeah it's 61 MPx full frame, but it's still a wide shot with most of the frame in the hyperfocal range, i.e. not really in full focus.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:32:14 No.4445968 Report

Quoted By: >>4445969 >>4445975

>>4445962
I think the old one was better. Picrel the sigma alternative.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:33:37 No.4445969 Report

Quoted By: >>4445975

>>4445968
Fullres. X-T5 w/ Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 @ 5.6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:34:04 No.4445970 Report

Quoted By: >>4445972 >>4445973

>>4445966
100% is not 500%. 27mm is not 23mm. kys

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:37:16 No.4445972 Report

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>>4445966
Thanks, good breakdown.
>>4445970
How to miss the point completely. post photo or gtfo

Pic GrIII @ 102400ISO and custom jpeg bw preset. I've found very high isos usable on the GR as long as you shoot BW, high contrast stuff. Not for everyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:37:48 No.4445973 Report

Quoted By: >>4445975 >>4445977

>>4445970
>100% is not 500%
This is not a 2x zoom by any means, on either of your pics.
>27mm is not 23mm
The point being?

Learn how to take a picture first then blame the gear.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:46:24 No.4445975 Report

Quoted By: >>4445976 >>4445978 >>4445987 >>4445989

>>4445969
>>4445968
It's still mushy.
40MP stretches x-trans beyond its capabilities. I'm not the only one claiming this.
>>4445966
>unless what you show is exactly what you focused on
Cottage picture was focused on the cottage. I used center spot and refocus. As a matter of fact the background trees are less in focus than the cottage. It's either a shit sensor or a shit lens, or (more likely) both. The kit zoom is a good choice for comparisons since this is a gear recommendation thread and most new people will probably pick the kit.
>>4445973
>Learn how to take a picture first then blame the gear.
Did I touch a nerve? I'm sorry about your buyer's remorse. You can still reclaim most of your cash if you sell your X-T5 ASAP. You might even make enough to buy a real camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:47:26 No.4445976 Report

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>>4445975
center spot and recompose*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:50:16 No.4445977 Report

Quoted By: >>4445979

>>4445973
Should have gotten a modern m43 camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:50:39 No.4445978 Report

Quoted By: >>4445984 >>4445989

>>4445975
>My 500% zoom on a wide shot with a zoom lens isn't razor sharp at the pixel level REEE
dunno, seems the fuj got to your nerves before I did
I don't even know what your point is, I can show you countless landscape examples on full frame + prime lenses that aren't sharp as fuck, because landscape pictures aren't meant to be as sharp as portrait pics, that's just how it is, your feelings don't apply, pixel peeping still isn't how you judge pictures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:52:23 No.4445979 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445977
Should have gotten a leica*

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:52:46 No.4445981 Report

Quoted By: >>4445983 >>4445984 >>4445985 >>4445988

xtrans is shit on purpose. you people are fucking morons.

yes, fujifilm xtrans is objectively bad at taking a picture.
yes, fujifilm x lenses are soft as balls except for some overpriced cope glass that's still never going to be as good as cheap stuff on sony/nikon FF.

but HOW?

well, if you would direct your attention to fujifilm marketing, they are NOT selling a technologically competitive camera. they are selling a "film simulator". if you bought your xt5 expecting it to be a real camera and not the kind of retarded thing a "women/queer owned" photography business might use when being DEI'd into shooting a vogue cover (at best), you weren't reading (a straight male photographer would just shoot film)

35mm is shit and the lenses for most 35mm cameras are soft
xtrans is shit and the lenses for xtrans are soft

wow who knew

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:54:09 No.4445983 Report

Quoted By: >>4445990

>>4445981
I thought it was some kind of snoy/yakuza plot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:54:23 No.4445984 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445978
It's not the same type of softness as you get e.g shooting wide open with a film lens on an otherwise sharp sensor.
The pixel-level mushiness contributes to degrading the entire image at regular magnification. Every picture I posted would have simply been nicer had I used bayer.
>>4445981
>they are selling a "film simulator"
True

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:54:27 No.4445985 Report

Quoted By: >>4445987

>>4445981
Kek this
>i bought a camera marketed as simulating a mushy, low resolution film format and now my photos are mushy and low resolution. they look like terrible lab scans of cheap consumer film. how could this happen to me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:56:20 No.4445987 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445985
For the record, I did not buy the camera but had it on loan from a family member.
t. yesphotos
>>4445975
>>4445963
>>4445956

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:56:51 No.4445988 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445981
>(a straight male photographer would just shoot film)
No one but unironic homosexuals shot film to feel "special" nowadays.

Real men shot nikon with prime telephoto to spy on the neighbor's daughter

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:57:35 No.4445989 Report

Quoted By: >>4445991 >>4445993

>>4445975
Is this mush in the same room with us? That's just how 100% crops look. I think that's plenty good for aps-c. Here's some "real mush", f22 and x-trans 4. Kit lens. Does this fact make it a bad picture?
>>4445978
I think they are either trolling or in denial.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 17:59:00 No.4445990 Report

Quoted By: >>4445993

>>4445983
Sony's yakuza plot amounts to this
>If you make a better camera than us, buy your sensors somewhere else or get third rate shit like olympus.
So it's like how the sigma and panasonic aren't allowed to outdo the leica Q (which would be accomplished by adding a mechanical shutter and EVF to the BF and S9). They are forced, by a backroom deal, to fill a different market niche. Fuji is not allowed to directly compete with sony. Therefore they sell a film simulator instead of a good camera.

Nikon also has a non-compete clause and Z mount is why so many third party lenses have truncated zoom ranges and weird focal lengths now. Non-compete deals from these yakuza fucks are crippling the camera market and may very well kill it.

Sony makes smartphone sensors. No one else does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:00:13 No.4445991 Report

Quoted By: >>4445992 >>4446235

>>4445989
This is a bad picture - for kit sold for thousands of dollars.

This is a distinction /p/ can't seem to handle.

If you bought an a7iv and every photo you take is f16 iso 1600 and scaled to 2mp yes you might as well have used micro four thirds

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:00:57 No.4445992 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445991
four-turds is DOA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:02:52 No.4445993 Report

Quoted By: >>4445996 >>4446235

>>4445989
It's just not a good sensor. Why would you pay more for x-trans when it's objectively worse than bayer? I am just sharing my disappointment with it after hands-on experience and you accuse me of trolling or being in denial (of what, exactly?). I'm perfectly happy with what I actually use.
>>4445990
>outdo the leica Q (which would be accomplished by adding a mechanical shutter and EVF to the BF and S9)
Leica Q is a fixed lens crop camera, so your theory is nonsense until Leica makes a compact SL.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:05:48 No.4445994 Report

Quoted By: >>4445995 >>4446010

While we're on the topic of sensor mush, how about them AA filters, and why sony and canon can't seem to make a good one? You can tell when they blur more in one direction than another

Things like this turn distant foliage and grass into a nervous blur and obliterate surface texture as hard as diffraction smearing would.
>dooont pixel peep noooooo you need to pay thousands of dollars to only use your camera for instagram! viewing more than 2mp = PIXEL PEEP! BAD!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:06:30 No.4445995 Report

Quoted By: >>4445998 >>4446000 >>4446012

>>4445994
>dpreview
As expected

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:06:56 No.4445996 Report

Quoted By: >>4446003

>>4445993
Would anyone buy the leica Q, if sigma gave the BF an EVF and mech shutter with a nonexistent/negligible size/weight increase? Anyone?

No. Because they could use any L mount lens they wanted instead of just cropping the fuck out of a 28mm.

It would cause another business failure like when they shared a PNS model with lumix.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:08:27 No.4445998 Report

Quoted By: >>4445999

>>4445995
it's funny how there is no argument against dpreview so you impotently try to suggest it's bad just because

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:09:04 No.4445999 Report

Quoted By: >>4446004

>>4445998
Are you new on this board?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:09:26 No.4446000 Report

Quoted By: >>4446050

>>4445995
Dpreview shoots these tests so we can shit on gay brands without joining the bickering club with doghair, huskyfucker, and corgicuck.

It also provides an objective baseline so we can say "this camera does this" without some sperg sped saying "WELL I THINK YOUR PHOTO OF GRASS AND TREES IS BORING AND SHIT SO IT DOESNT MATTER USE YOUR PHONE GEARFAG" (because they secretly hate photography)

It's pretty based of them if you ask me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:09:42 No.4446001 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445909
>RF has lens IS so IBIS is kind of redundant.
Would you like to hear about our lord and savior the prime vcm lens?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:11:18 No.4446002 Report

Quoted By: >>4446235

>>4445940
Looks like the same type of quality you'd get from a 2010 leica digishit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:11:28 No.4446003 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445996
>Would anyone buy the leica Q, if sigma gave the BF an EVF and mech shutter with a nonexistent/negligible size/weight increase? Anyone?
Yes, because those people wouldn't have bought a Q in the first place. The only real competitor of the Q, in the eyes of its target audience, is GFX100RF (and my mistake assuming the Q was crop).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:11:29 No.4446004 Report

Quoted By: >>4446029

>>4445999
you hate dp review because it proves that your precious sony a7c isn't as good as you say it is

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:11:36 No.4446005 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445909
>ibis is redunant
>simply limit yourself to buying this small selection of optically bad, poorly built, slow focusing electronic-plastic primes that canon sells for well over $500 for some models
>and use them on a design flaw ridden cripple hammered blob
or i could put a $200 50mm f2 on a $1350 zf and get better results with any lens i want forever including adapted leica M mount

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:13:58 No.4446010 Report

Quoted By: >>4446014

>>4445994
why does only Nikon clearly show the line in the illustration?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:14:17 No.4446011 Report

Quoted By: >>4446015

why the fuck is the X-H2 almost the same size of the K-1???

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:15:23 No.4446012 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445995
Dpreview is based. It shows what the charts don't, like how the z7ii is actually grainier than the r5, and how the a7c has directional detail smearing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:18:03 No.4446014 Report

Quoted By: >>4446015

>>4446010
Sony: AA filter smears horizontally
Fuji: Xtrans reduces resolution overall and then nukes what aliasing is left with strong chroma smoothing
Nikon ZF: weak AA filter smears detail a little less, vertically, because most details IRL repeat horizontally
Canon: Multidirectional FF filter and noise reduction baked into raws to hide something we may never see unless canon chooses to show us (it's probably fixed pattern noise)

The S5IIs results are similar to the ZF. The S5II has no OLPF filter at all, and people actually pay to add one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:19:04 No.4446015 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446014
>FF filter
AA filter kek

>>4446011
Because fuji is an image first brand and they wanted it to look professional to clueless retards

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:27:08 No.4446018 Report

Quoted By: >>4446021

I know some aliasing (rainbow slop, zigzags, etc) with ultrafine black and white detail (ie: white girl, dark eyebrows) is normal unless you nuke resolution altogether with a soft lens or extremely soft sensor, but the R6II raws show some weird shit

I opened them myself to confirm

They are cooking their raws in ways we may never understand. Sony (already known for star eater and weird gaps in raw histograms) shows a lesser form of the weird sensor fuckup.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:32:37 No.4446020 Report

Quoted By: >>4446034 >>4446235

>>Pentax

I don't even care that I own one this is funny

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:32:50 No.4446021 Report

Quoted By: >>4446025 >>4446197

>>4446018
someone told me adobe is more aggressive with weird color shit and capture one is not because it's meant for users of higher end cameras. lets try c1.

wew lad.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:39:31 No.4446025 Report

Quoted By: >>4446038

>>4446021
>canon sending encoded messages in their raws

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:52:03 No.4446029 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446004
Don't talk shit on sony

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 18:56:26 No.4446030 Report

Quoted By: >>4446032

>GXR revival but without the lensor nonsense
>L-mount so that Ricoh doesn't need to develop a new one for mirrorless
>mech shutter, IBIS, full frame, tilting hotshoe EVF (sold separately)
>24MP sensor with thin cover glass also good for tiny adapted rangefinder lenses
>keep size at or below A7C/Leica M
>can also sell a good K to L adapter for perfect compatibility
>positioned as a main camera that the GR can complement or a side camera to a larger full-frame
It would sell like hot cakes. Why don't they try it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:06:17 No.4446031 Report

Quoted By: >>4446058

>>4445820
I am once again asking if anyone here uses ipad for editing? Like, how convenient is it to load raws on the go, apply preset, do light edit and quickly airdrop them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:14:03 No.4446032 Report

Quoted By: >>4446037

>>4446030
You mean the z5ii?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:17:49 No.4446034 Report

Quoted By: >>4446049

>>4446020
Furries also like fujifilm

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:23:43 No.4446037 Report

Quoted By: >>4446053

>>4446032

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:25:14 No.4446038 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446025
thats where the raw noise reduction algorithm passed over the big green line that would normally be there on a canon sensor

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:43:02 No.4446040 Report

Quoted By: >>4446042 >>4446053

a few X-T5 100% crops
true its not as good as 40mp bayer
but can hold its own with 24mp bayer

in either case, post processing sharpness and nr makes a bigger difference

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:44:06 No.4446042 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446040

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:45:35 No.4446043 Report

Quoted By: >>4446050

hi guys i'm a hiring kike with a love for niggers i'm looking for cum managers and dick Developers for my tight jew ass send me an email at [email protected]

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:46:32 No.4446044 Report

Quoted By: >>4446048

I'm not seeing any worms anymore on fuji with the lastest lightroom version. Has adobe finally fixed it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 19:59:40 No.4446048 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446044
they're in your brain now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:00:26 No.4446049 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446034
Sony is the official furry camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:01:27 No.4446050 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446043
>>4446000
Samefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:10:13 No.4446051 Report

Quoted By: >>4446235

>>4445944
>>4445940
what region is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:16:04 No.4446053 Report

Quoted By: >>4446055 >>4446081

>>4446037
Non-difference IRL especially when you consider that sony lenses must be larger for the same aperture/quality

>>4446040
Do the cat again on bayer, i want to see if the nose gets pinker and the irises and eye folds get more saturated

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:30:00 No.4446055 Report

Quoted By: >>4446059 >>4446060 >>4446061 >>4446479

>>4446053
>sony lenses must be larger for the same aperture/quality
?????
*Nikon lenses must be larger for the same aperture/quality
https://blog.kasson.com/nikon-z6-7/sony-20-1-8-g-20-1-8-nikkor-s-on-nikon-z7/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:33:05 No.4446056 Report

Quoted By: >>4446062 >>4446067

Don't get the A7Cii. It's the only camera I have ever used with a rolling shutter so bad it affected normal still images. It's also got a really bad build quality to the point I was afraid of breaking it on accident. The mount also has so much vignetting that it is closer to ASPC than FF. An XT5 is probably higher IQ than it. Just get z5ii or a refurbished z7ii. If you are willing to spend more money then go for a z8 or a GFX100sii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:36:02 No.4446058 Report

Quoted By: >>4446314

>>4446031
>I am once again asking if anyone here uses ipad for editing? Like, how convenient is it to load raws on the go, apply preset, do light edit and quickly airdrop them?
I already told you to grab Photomator. You drag files from sd card to either photos app, or a local directory, and then you can do automated mass edits. Smidge slower than on a laptop, but fine nonetheless.
Or grab Nitro Photo if you don't like Photomator.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:37:25 No.4446059 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446055
>muh one design mistake
And the sony lens works on nikon bodies lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:39:43 No.4446060 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446055
The vignetting and distortion on that snoy lens is insane. What good is sharpness if your edges and corners have micro four thirds light gathering, and your images need stretched and smeared to be straight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:40:29 No.4446061 Report

Quoted By: >>4446142

>>4446055
Who cares they are both bad lenses that get mogged by a cheap viltrox 20mm you can get for 150$. Like honestly gmaster and S line lenses have some of the ugliest color and tonal rendering it's crazy. Pretty funny the best Z mount lenses are the cheap ones like the 35mm f1.4. Kind of cool of nikon to make the S line for the wedding photographers who shoot brick walls and leave the good lenses cheaper for real photographers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 20:48:58 No.4446062 Report

Quoted By: >>4446069

>>4446056
The a7cs have a 1/160 sync, canon efcs is 1/200 on cheapies and 1/250 on good ones, z8 shutterless is 1/200

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 21:15:52 No.4446067 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446056
Good advice here

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 21:23:03 No.4446069 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446062
Yeah a decent canon is a good option too. I just don't recommend them cause they breakdown so much. Really only useful if you have their pro services IMO.Plus most of the RF lenses are ass so you have to adapt EF lenses if you want decent rendering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 23:00:54 No.4446081 Report

Quoted By: >>4446084 >>4446087

>>4446053
>Non-difference IRL especially when you consider that sony lenses must be larger for the same aperture/quality
My original post was about a theoretical new camera, not an A7C.
Personally I just need a compact full frame body to put my wide angle M lens on and carry in my bag beside my main so I don't need to swap primes all the time. A7C doesn't cut it, hence the daydreaming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 23:13:52 No.4446084 Report

Quoted By: >>4446086 >>4446087

>>4446081
M10

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 23:17:12 No.4446086 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446084
M69

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Jul 2025 23:19:29 No.4446087 Report

Quoted By: >>4446145

>>4446081
Zf or z5ii

>>4446084
overpriced snoy with all the features removed (and a worse reputation for QC)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 03:40:09 No.4446142 Report

Quoted By: >>4446333

>>4446061
24-70 is gud tho

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 03:48:35 No.4446145 Report

Quoted By: >>4446149

>>4446087
You're wrong. The optical viewfinder is the last stand of implicit photographic integrity. Besides, the Leica actually has a solid build.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 03:54:37 No.4446146 Report

Quoted By: >>4446150

Do I replace my mft kit with an L mount kit? The 24-60 f/2.8 and 100mm macro are quite small and sharp, but I'm not sure about the bodies at this point.
>inb4 sony
Never

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:00:43 No.4446149 Report

Quoted By: >>4446151 >>4446152

>>4446145
Schizo nonsense isn't a retort, and leicas are literally legendary for failing parts. They're as expensive to own as they are to buy. Feast your eyes, they are worse than snoy
https://www.google.com/search?q=leica+m10+failures
Kind of like how /p/ sleeps on canon's failure rate
You're afraid to acknowledge the elephant in the room - nikon makes the only good cameras.

And for your schizo ass, they even make the d780, d500, and d7500.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:02:34 No.4446150 Report

Quoted By: >>4446160

>>4446146
panasonic is just sony with worse autofocus and more video modes checked in the firmware build options desu

they promise some minor weight savings and in return colors are bad, bodies don't last, and even fuji mogs it in AF reliability

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:09:09 No.4446151 Report

Quoted By: >>4446153

>>4446149
It's not "schizo nonsense", the image you see in an EVF is literally computer-generated. As for the cost, who cares but the buyer?

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:10:12 No.4446152 Report

Quoted By: >>4446154 >>4446157

>>4446149
Also curved microlenses enable the capture of deeper tonality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:11:19 No.4446153 Report

Quoted By: >>4446155

>>4446151
>oh no, i get better autofocus and exposure preview when i use my camera, the west has fallen
yes it is schizo nonsense

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:12:40 No.4446154 Report

Quoted By: >>4446156

>>4446152
Curved microlenses slightly increase SNR and improve extreme corner sharpness when using lenses with extreme ray angles, which is really just a leica M mount problem. Leica lenses aren't particularly good so it's not worth losing sleep over.

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:12:51 No.4446155 Report

Quoted By: >>4446158

>>4446153
>oh no, I need my crutches because I'm photographically disabled!!!

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:15:12 No.4446156 Report

Quoted By: >>4446158

>>4446154
>which is really just a leica M mount problem
Sony lenses vignette so the cameras bake shadow lifts in the corners of their compromised raws

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:18:32 No.4446157 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446152
>microtonal harvesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:21:20 No.4446158 Report

Quoted By: >>4446161

>>4446155
>how it started: It's philosophical
>how its going: NOO YOU CANT HAVE NICE THINGS YOU HAVE TO WORK HARDER IWTH WORSE THINGS
Just another commie

>>4446156
No one cares about sony schizo this is a nikon and micro four thirds board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:24:43 No.4446160 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446150
oh yeah forgot it was a video format, meh. I like the lenses though. Maybe I'll get an SL3.

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:24:43 No.4446161 Report

Quoted By: >>4446166

>>4446158
>a fake rendition is better than reality
At long last the escapist outs himself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:28:05 No.4446166 Report

Quoted By: >>4446170

>>4446161
And now the commie backtracks to trying to assign deep philosophical implications to a camera viewfinder. What a buffoon.

DSLRs are obsolete due to total inferiority btw.

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:33:00 No.4446170 Report

Quoted By: >>4446174 >>4446175 >>4446182

>>4446166
Name one relevant thing the 1D X Mark III can't do that mirrorless can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:35:51 No.4446174 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446170
Not be an autism blob

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:36:16 No.4446175 Report

Quoted By: >>4446177

>>4446170
eye detection auto focus

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:37:09 No.4446177 Report

Quoted By: >>4446178 >>4446180

>>4446175
It can, you've been deceived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:37:33 No.4446178 Report

Quoted By: >>4446179

>>4446177
prove it

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:38:29 No.4446179 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446178
Rtfm

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:39:40 No.4446180 Report

Quoted By: >>4446183

>>4446177
Not competently

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:41:21 No.4446182 Report

Quoted By: >>4446185

>>4446170
Use significantly better, smaller lenses where it matters (primes for editorial style shooting). Small primes on SLRs are dogshit and lack stabilization, and usually have to be shot at f4 with higher ISOs (no stab) making it basically m43

IDGAF if the pro lenses are still big, those are meant to be insured and kept in dry boxes when not at work. Quality first.

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:42:02 No.4446183 Report

Quoted By: >>4446186

>>4446180
Suppose it can't, even though it can. I asked about relevant things, eye tracking AF is a gimmick.

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:44:39 No.4446185 Report

Quoted By: >>4446187

>>4446182
Small lenses are not relevant in the slightest to editorial shooting, they're always a cheap compromise. And generally speaking mirrorless has bigger lenses because of the short flange. Only neurotics care about camera size.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:45:52 No.4446186 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446183
>everything good cameras do is irrelevant
t. this
>https://archive.palanq.win/p/search/tripcode/%21%21oKsYTZ4HHVE%20/filter/text/
>https://archive.palanq.win/p/search/tripcode/%21%215Dz%2BC7v45HK/filter/text/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:48:27 No.4446187 Report

Quoted By: >>4446189 >>4446191

>>4446185
Sentence by sentence
1: Lie or retarded. Editorial STYLE, not paid assignment.
2: Lie.
3: Cope.
You're on fire.

Shit SLRs got almost universally discontinued for a reason. Even pro-only medium format is now mirrorless. Give up, schizo. SLRs were always a bad design. There are no philosophical implications of viewfinder technology.

Go back to /pol/ sweaty

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:52:29 No.4446189 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446187
>SLRs got almost universally discontinued for a reason
Cost cutting

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:54:30 No.4446191 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446187
>Editorial STYLE
So an organized shoot. Size is no object.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 04:56:11 No.4446192 Report

Quoted By:

Is the nikon 80-200 af-s a good lens? Would it be a good idea to buy it for a z6ii?
What about other lens of that age, like the 24-70 2.8G?
And are similar aged 3rd party (tamron, sigma etc.) all shit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:02:56 No.4446193 Report

Quoted By: >>4446200

>>4445912
Stops of stabilization are listed as theoretical, not what you're actually going to get, and Lens rated stops tend to get far closer to the rating than IBIS.
Pros of IBIS:
- Really good on your 35mm and 50mm.
- You have it on all lenses.
- 5-axis stabilization.
- Will work with Lens IS to be even better (lets the lens do the 2 axis it's better at, then takes over for the other 3).
Cons of IBIS:
- Realistically expect 50%-70% of the rating, so more like 3-4 stops, 4-5 on your 50mm.
- On wide angle lenses you get smeared details in the corners.
- Long focal lengths IBIS just stops working well, expect 2 stops best as you approach 200mm.
Pros of Lens IS:
- Tuned for the lens, so works better than IBIS on wide and long lenses. Very big deal.
- Tends to provide better optical quality with less loss of detail (IBIS isn't perfect) (not big enough of a difference for me to care).
Cons of Lens IS:
- Needs to have it on the lens, so not all your lenses benefit.
- Increases the cost of every lens it's on.
- Doesn't have as high of max capability.
- Only corrects for two axis.

Honestly, lack of IBIS isn't going to keep me from buying the R8, as Canon lenses tend to have IS where it matters. If my camera ever pays for itself, THEN it justifies spending even more for a better system. Lens IS works well enough for casual stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:08:23 No.4446195 Report

Quoted By: >>4446196 >>4446200

>>4445927
>he didn't mention pentax meme
Pentax wins again!
The only thing people have to shit on about Pentax is that Pentax might not ever release another new camera or lens again.
Everyone recognizes Pentax for its photographic superiority.
Usually mentioning Pentax just provokes autistic sperging out by snoy fanboys because they have nothing to actually defeat it.

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:10:01 No.4446196 Report

Quoted By: >>4446199

>>4446195
Pentax has one downfall and it's video but it shouldn't matter to a purist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:10:50 No.4446197 Report

Quoted By: >>4446201

>>4446021
lmfao, didn't expect Fujifilm to win, and didn't expect Nikon to actually do clearly better than Sony and Canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:12:24 No.4446199 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446196
I don't wear a beanie and I don't rely on shitty cliche instagram reels to get pussy.
I don't give a shit about video.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:20:32 No.4446200 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446193
Skill issue, mr parkinsons

>>4446195
Pentax just sucks. Dead brand. Bad cameras. Worse lenses.

BlobSLRs are irrelevant
Sony lost
Olympus died
Canon crumbled
Panasonic is a punching bag
Nikon and Fuji mirrorless are superior

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:21:35 No.4446201 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446197
fujifilm gambled their entire brand on shooting that test chart. you better appreciate it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:51:11 No.4446208 Report

Quoted By: >>4446209 >>4446236 >>4446301 >>4446321 >>4446340 >>4446366

Is the Nikon Zf really unusable with bigger lenses, or are camera reviewers just weak basedboys?
Trying to decide between used a Zf and a used Z6ii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 05:51:50 No.4446209 Report

Quoted By: >>4446210

>>4446208
just get the zf and don't be a fag

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 06:00:05 No.4446210 Report

Quoted By: >>4446211 >>4446218 >>4446366

>>4446209
OK, but what about when I mount a tamron 200-400 f/5.6 via FTZ (~1400g total)?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 06:05:08 No.4446211 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446210
Hold it by the barrel

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 06:36:03 No.4446213 Report

Quoted By: >>4446220

>>4445820
Do what I did. Just buy em all and see for yourself. Just remember that /p/ is a bunch of lying seething envious poorfags who don't want you to enjoy what they can't have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 07:10:54 No.4446218 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446210
quit yer gimpin’ boy and HOLD IT

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 07:12:32 No.4446220 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446213
This is an absolute fact. Sour grapes crab bucket photography hating bonanza.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:25:04 No.4446230 Report

Quoted By: >>4446231

A7R IV worth an upgrade from A7II?
I'm mostly tired of any new feature or accessory being compatible from A7III onward and I need more resolution to crop in for birds since I bought a sigma telephoto like a retard and don't get to use a teleconverter.
But for most stuff I'm still making it work so I'm kinda on the fence.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:28:26 No.4446231 Report

Quoted By: >>4446242

>>4446230
no just wait for the A7RVI to be released and then buy a used A7RV
the lack of a fully articulated screen makes the A7RIV worthless

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:32:46 No.4446233 Report

Quoted By: >>4446238 >>4446239 >>4446305

>tried to take photo of large moon tonight
>came out like a big circle and can't see shit
Taken with EM1-III with f1.4 20mm, what fuckin do?
Is it a skill issue or wrong camera issue?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:33:47 No.4446235 Report

Quoted By: >>4446237

>>4446002
That's shitty scanning+sharpening for print for you.
>>4446051
Near Tampere, Finland
>>4445991
So it's bad that you use the tools you choose for the art you want? Are you actually autistic or retarded? That kit costs sub 1k now afaik.
>>4445993
You are in denial of sensor mattering that much to the end result, and trolling because you still seem to think the matter was the camera instead of yourself.
>>4446020
LMAO sounds about right

PSA to gearfags here, optics matter more. And don't shoot in bad light and expect good results.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:34:25 No.4446236 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446208
It's not comfy. Cameras have grips for a reason. They act as levers to help support and hold the camera.
But not unusable.
Plus, you can just buy an aftermarket grip.
I wouldn't get the Zf if I was a wildlife shooter or someone else that regularly used large, heavy lenses. But I wouldn't hesitate to buy it if I used those lenses only occasionally.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:35:28 No.4446237 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446235
Idk what happened there, but this should work.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:39:21 No.4446238 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446233
40mm, f5.6 1/2000s. 12-40mm f2.8. Hard crop.
I think you overexposed it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:40:08 No.4446239 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446233
skill issue because if you knew shit, you'd know you need at least 200mm (100mm on your m43) to start looking even ok (sub-decent). You're also going to need to focus at infinity and meter for the moon.
Get a 100-400mm, learn spot metering, and try again.

OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:46:55 No.4446240 Report

Quoted By: >>4446241

So, is Ricoh GR III HDF a good upgrade?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:54:21 No.4446241 Report

Quoted By: >>4446245

>>4446240
Do you own another camera with interchangeable lenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 08:54:30 No.4446242 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446231
yeah that might be the play
second hand prices for higher end gear are insane in my country but I checked ebay and A7R V prices from Japanese sellers are already decent, if I didn't have to pay VAT on imports I could buy one now

OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 09:19:01 No.4446245 Report

Quoted By: >>4446246

>>4446241
Besides the XT5, I don't :(
Planning to sell it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 09:29:37 No.4446246 Report

Quoted By: >>4446249

>>4446245
In that case I would not get the ricoh. You'll grow bored of being stuck with 28/40mm eventually. If you're going to sell the fuji choose the next system based on the lenses available. Unless you are some sports photographer who actually needs the latest and greatest and has the money to get it.

OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 09:32:55 No.4446249 Report

Quoted By: >>4446251

>>4446246
I'd go with Ricoh GR III HDF.
What would you recommend next? Sony A7* R seems to be great :)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 09:38:29 No.4446251 Report

Quoted By: >>4446253

>>4446249
What do you shoot and what features do you need out of a camera? What focal lengths do you use and what for? What kind of equipment would inspire you to pick up the camera more?

OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 09:55:48 No.4446253 Report

Quoted By: >>4446254 >>4446297

>>4446251
This. They look neat, crisp and pleasing.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/daciangroza/53806539569/in/dateposted/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/patrickjoust/52569204834/in/faves-16163817@N00/

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 10:11:46 No.4446254 Report

Quoted By: >>4446295

>>4446253
Second one is 6x9 film, you're welcome to go down that path. Maybe start with 35mm or 645 though.

For the first one, you could go there and take that shot with the camera you have. Unless whatever lens you have is so bad that the images don't look good after you've stopped it down to ~f8. Your picrel was f11, MF film probably more w/tripod.

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OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 12:56:52 No.4446295 Report

Quoted By: >>4446297 >>4446422

>>4446254
>take that shot with the camera you have. Unless whatever lens you have is so bad that the images don't look good after you've stopped it down to ~f8.

Are you sure I can get the same results with Fuji XT5 + Fujifilm XF 35mm f/2 R WR?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 12:59:35 No.4446297 Report

Quoted By: >>4446308 >>4446318

>>4446295
>>4446253
You can get shots like these with a T5 no problem

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 13:12:39 No.4446301 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446208
It's fine, bigger lenses you support by the lens anyways
The leather half cases at a bit of grip with less weight / bulk than the l plate grip, but even those aren't too bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:12:39 No.4446305 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446233
You need to understand something.
This isn't something most other people will tell you or make obvious enough.
The thing you must understand is that the moon is VERY GOD DAMN FUCKING BRIGHT, LIKE HOLY FUCK GOD DAMMIT JESUS IT'S GODDAM FUCKING BRIGHT DUDE BRIGHT ENOUGH TO LIGHT UP EARTH AT NIGHT
You overexposed this.

The fact you aren't posting the shutter speed (your ISO should be set to the lowest) confirms this.
Try again.
Next time, remember IT'S FUCKING BRIGHT. Like, REALLY BRIGHT, and small.
It's almost like shooting a photo of a light bulb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:14:01 No.4446306 Report

Quoted By: >>4446315 >>4446316 >>4446320

More thoughts on Sony A7R iii/iv?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:19:34 No.4446308 Report

Quoted By: >>4446322

>>4446297
OP is just bored with it, let people have fun and spend their money on what they want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:51:34 No.4446314 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446058
Well thx for your insight on this but I want moooaarrr opinions. Like not just the tech - also if people do it and if it’s good or annoying setup from a usability standpoint

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:54:14 No.4446315 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446306
It's sony

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 14:55:00 No.4446316 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446306
Well it’s basically like all other non-current gen flagships. Good way to get into this hobby or into this ecosystem. Especially if you get a good deal on the used market. Good startpoint to get to know the ecosystem of lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:01:42 No.4446318 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446297
With more blurriness and faded looking colors and blur from shit lenses and the lackluster experience of using fujis chinese toys yes

Id sell that shit and get a z7ii and 35mm f1.4 asap

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:02:18 No.4446319 Report

Quoted By: >>4446323

What would be a good second hand purchase for switching from nikon F moun to Nikon Z mount mirrorless ? which of the previous or older Z series don't have the shitty autofocus and now go for a reasonable amount ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:03:10 No.4446320 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446306
Wonky colors
Spontaneously self destructing sensor mounts
> https://m.dpreview.com/news/0261142298/lensrental-discovers-cracked-sensor-mounts-inside-some-of-its-sony-a7-series-rental-fleet
No weather sealing
Baby mount vignetting

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:05:10 No.4446321 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446208
You cant really use it one handed with the 50mm f1.8 s unless your hands are larger than the caucasian average. It is a large camera. Larger than the z8 in some dimensions. It feels like a fuji gw690 but plastic

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:05:46 No.4446322 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446308
I fully and down with selling the T5, I am selling mine too
Just silly to think you can't get those with one

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:05:49 No.4446323 Report

Quoted By: >>4446345 >>4446422

>>4446319
i bought a lightly used z7II and 24-70 s. basically perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:37:25 No.4446333 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446142
Yeah it's just about the only non telephoto zoom worth thinking about in Z mount IMO. Just make sure to get it used so it's like half the price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:47:53 No.4446340 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446208
It's not unusable it's just more annoying to use with longer lenses. I would say the real comparison is between a zF, z5ii, or a refurbished z7ii.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 15:53:30 No.4446345 Report

Quoted By: >>4446358

>>4446323
This is definitely the best option right now. If you need more readout speed and better autofocus the z5ii will be better but if you are okay with pretty good AF and want the best IQ the z7ii is a steal right now. If your not shooting birds/sports the AF will be more than enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:26:45 No.4446358 Report

Quoted By: >>4446446

>>4446345
The Z7II has ugly noise character. I know the charts SAY its the same amount of noise, but the grain looks ugly.

The ZF has some weird shit going on too that wasn't going on with the Z6II. I think it's related to how nikon processes out their PDAF bands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:30:42 No.4446360 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445820
As someone who had a R8 and sold it for a A7CII I can say I had quite a few issues with the R8 and focusing. Kept missing eye focus even though the eye track was spot on. It would instead focus on eyebrow or eye lashes leaving the eye soft. Had some weird focus issue in general as well. Happy I upgraded to Sony. The R8's 40 shot burst was cool though. but having 7+ stops of IBUIS is game changing for low light / slow shutter shooting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:36:08 No.4446364 Report

Quoted By: >>4446367 >>4446368 >>4446391

LOLing at all the fags concerned with how the cameras look. Nigga this is photography not a fashion accessory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:36:26 No.4446366 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446208
It is uncomfortable to one-hand it with medium lenses. The OM-5/X-T5 have better designed grips.

>>4446210
That would be fine because you cant hold just the camera with a long lens anyways (its bad for the lens mount)

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:40:01 No.4446367 Report

Quoted By: >>4446385

>>4446364
>Nigga this is photography not a fashion accessory.
blocks your path

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:40:54 No.4446368 Report

Quoted By: >>4446378 >>4446389 >>4446422

>>4446364
Appearances matter. A lot.

You are what you signal.

Your camera doesn't just have to look good, it has to look good on you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:54:37 No.4446378 Report

Quoted By: >>4446381 >>4446422

>>4446368
LOL!!!!! Hows your murse?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 16:57:39 No.4446381 Report

Quoted By: >>4446401 >>4446422

>>4446378
Murses (also called "camera bags") are for incels

Men don't "need" to carry more camera gear than just their M11 and its lens on a strap.

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Fri 11 Jul 2025 17:09:19 No.4446385 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446367
It's not like Leicas are actually pleasant to look at, lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 17:14:09 No.4446389 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446368
You seem really insecure desu

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 17:16:53 No.4446391 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446364
>imagine caring about aesthetics while doing a hobby entirely based around aesthetics
Inconceivable

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 17:33:10 No.4446401 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446381
carrying a lens is gay
I put my lens up my asshole and only take it out when I need to take pics
the ladies love it when I pull it out

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 18:30:18 No.4446422 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446368
The best gear is the look you bring with you
>>4446378
>>4446381
Pretty gay to care about such things.
>>4446295
Not exactly, those look wider. Go for 23mm f2 if you're going to stick with fuji. It's great desu (35mm equivalent).
>>4446323
How's that treating you? I'm looking to get something mirrorless after a year or so of only shooting film. Thinking about some nikon body+24-120f4 (ot 24-70 if I find it cheap). Maybe some prime later on if I need wider apertures.

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OP Fri 11 Jul 2025 19:47:07 No.4446441 Report

Quoted By: >>4446448 >>4446453 >>4446466 >>4446482 >>4446637

OP Update:

Picked up a Ricoh GR III HDF and ran a few hundred shots through it. Honestly? Totally unimpressed. Sharpness, handling, and overall feel don’t come close to my X-T5 + XF 35mm f/2 - which is way snappier and just more fun to shoot with.

At this point, I’m planning to sell both the Fuji and the Ricoh and fully move to FF:

So now I’m leaning harder into FF:
- Sony A7R III / A7R IV
- Nikon Zf or Z7 II (zero Nikon experience, so open to recs)

From what I gather, /gear/ sees Canon in this range (~$2k–$3k used) as pretty much a no-go?

Looking for something compact-ish, with high res, good color, good IBIS.
What’s /gear/’s actual pick here? Anything else I should be looking at in that range?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:01:14 No.4446446 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446358
Interesting I've always preferred the noise characteristics of the z7ii compared to most other brands (especially sony). The zf does have some odd things going on with some it's low light look though. Pure black and shadows looks better on the zf to me but something weird happens with noise on any sort of detail. I think I just might not like big pixels. These are all minor quibbles though. They are all very good cameras IMO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:20:49 No.4446448 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446441
I don't know what is "high res" to you but if your okay with 24 megapickles I would actually recommend the z5ii or the zf (they are functionally the same camera and the only difference is looks and ergonomics). If you want 45 megapickles get a refurbished z7ii from Nikon. The z7ii has good enough IBIS for me to shoot at 1/15th using a 35mm in low light easily. The af isn't quite as snappy as the zf/z5ii but it's honestly good enough for me since the main difference is the lack of subject detection outside of people and animals. If you want to spend 3k get a refurbished z8 and you can have the best of both worlds. It is larger and heavier though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:40:18 No.4446451 Report

Quoted By: >>4446454 >>4446456 >>4446467

why the fuck is every macro guy shooting insects, every big zoom is shooting birds, and so on. Holy originality. Fucking lawyers and dentists mate

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:52:01 No.4446453 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446441
as a newly annointed ricoh shill, the biggest appeal to the gr is the size and snap focus. if you dont care about size and dont use snap focus, its kind of pointless. and from what ive seen online, i think the HDF filter is wayyyy too strong, i think the regular ND is much more practical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:52:22 No.4446454 Report

Quoted By: >>4446458

>>4446451
What would/are you doing with a macro and big zoom?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:54:22 No.4446456 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446451
If you want to shoot birds and insects, those are the lenses you need, duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 20:56:36 No.4446457 Report

Quoted By:

Any guesses about the possible announcement of the R7 mark II?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 21:03:18 No.4446458 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446454

i have no idea, i have 0 creativity. but i refuse to believe those are the ONLY things one can do with that type of photography. seriously its uncanny, borders on npc to me

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 21:57:57 No.4446466 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446441
>Sony A7R III
This is part of the generation that made so many people hate sony. Do you want to find out why?
>A7R IV
The colors are still fucky and it has a lot of ugly high ISO noise
>/gear/ doesn't like canon
/p/ doesn't like canon period because their brand image and marketing strategy essentially refuses that the prosumer market exists, or acknowledges it and tells it it doesn't deserve nice things if it doesnt want to spend over $3k overall

Get a nikon Z5II. You can use sony lenses later, and it has pickle shift.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 22:04:38 No.4446467 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446451
Those are the most interesting and common subjects. Calm the fuck down

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Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 23:07:35 No.4446479 Report

Quoted By: >>4446483 >>4446493

>>4446055

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 23:10:14 No.4446482 Report

Quoted By: >>4446602

>>4446441
wait for the Pentax K-1 III

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 23:11:44 No.4446483 Report

Quoted By: >>4446487

>>4446479
Why are you comparing shit ass lenses and a fixed f8 manual focus lens to sony’s largest small prime instead of the 35mm f2.8, which is still better than all of those shitters?

Is it because… panasonic wont make cameras in 2035?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 23:41:33 No.4446487 Report

Quoted By: >>4446645

>>4446483
Its all the users of inferior cameras have
>well, i have a crappy lens that's slightly smaller

The niggors always decline to mention that their pancake is, despite the largest mount, incredibly fragile and lacking filter threads without its hood, which takes away its pancake status. It's also the one with the worst corner resolution. With its hood it is the same size as the 35mm f2.8 zeiss.

The lumix pancake isn't even a real lens.

Canon has the only good-ish one, but also the largest bodies, and all their small stuff is crippled.

Full frame pancakes worth using are an impossibility with flange distances less than 27mm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Jul 2025 23:56:46 No.4446493 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446479
Sony sisters...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 02:00:10 No.4446521 Report

Quoted By: >>4446561 >>4446594 >>4446639 >>4446787

What shitty old camera do you like using because you like the look of it?

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Sat 12 Jul 2025 03:59:44 No.4446561 Report

Quoted By: >>4446570

Why would anyone go out of their way to shoot full frame in the name of image quality and then handicap it with a dim pancake lens?
>>4446521
Not exactly old but I like shooting with disposables now and then, love their look specially with oddball films like ortho Svema.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 04:42:03 No.4446570 Report

Quoted By: >>4446575

>>4446561
>Why would anyone go out of their way to shoot full frame in the name of image quality and then handicap it with a dim pancake lens?
Yeah, id rather have a dim f/2.8 lens in a bigger size!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 04:55:50 No.4446575 Report

Quoted By: >>4446617 >>4446645

>>4446570
All of these shitcakes vignette 3 stops wide open. In terms of light transmission f2.8 and f4 are nearly the same. Also only the canon has all 4 basic features every lens should have:
autofocus
filter threads
more than one aperture setting
corners that are visibly sharp by f5.6

like the other f2.8 and even f2 and f1.8 lenses are way better and small enough. Pancakes look cute but dont make cameras that much more portable unless you are literally keeping a camera in a purse, as in, a womans purse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 05:16:35 No.4446583 Report

Quoted By: >>4446585 >>4446924 >>4446928

Has anyone here tried the Viltrox 50mm f/2 air?
How does it compare to the Nikon 40mm f/2 Z?
The Nikon is only ~$20 more in like new condition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 05:25:25 No.4446585 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446583
The viltrox is vastly superior

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 06:29:46 No.4446594 Report

Quoted By: >>4446597

>>4446521

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 06:54:20 No.4446597 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446594
based

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 07:42:27 No.4446602 Report

Quoted By: >>4446766 >>4446769

>>4446482
never gonna happen
no money in the furry market for a DSLR

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 08:25:28 No.4446617 Report

Quoted By: >>4446666 >>4446769

>>4446575
>In terms of light transmission f2.8 and f4 are nearly the same

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 10:55:55 No.4446637 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446441
>don't do thing!
>does thing anyways
>disappointed

You are beyond helping. If I were you I'd sell everything and get a Nikon D600 and invest in quality lenses. That's the most you can take advantage of. Think of upgrading when you know how to take photos. Or if that sounds gross then a Canon 6D is right up your alley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 10:58:10 No.4446638 Report

Quoted By: >>4446666

Is Nikon ZF the best option after Z9/Z8? Don't care about ergonomics/video.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 10:59:18 No.4446639 Report

Quoted By: >>4446652 >>4446787

>>4446521
E500 for me

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 12:17:52 No.4446645 Report

Quoted By: >>4446769

>>4446487
>>4446575
>wall of cope

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 12:20:41 No.4446647 Report

Quoted By: >>4446666

Nikon Zf with a 35mm, 50mm prime and 24-120f4 or go a bit chunkier with a GFX? I like the 50R maybe coupled with the GF55mmf1.7 as a start.

Only thing that I don't like about the Zf is that stupid vlogging screen that you can't just tilt quickly to shoot from waist.

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Sat 12 Jul 2025 13:07:35 No.4446652 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446639
Absolute gigachad

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 13:46:42 No.4446666 Report

Quoted By: >>4446667

>>4446638
Z6III, then Z5II/Zf
>>4446617
It's funny because this reply just shows how stupid you are to take what they said and interpret it that way
If you have an f2.8 lens with excessive vignetting, going to f4 sometimes doesn't actually give you that much more in terms of overall transmission
Instead of getting more light, you mostly just get less vignetting
>>4446647
I went 50R to Zf and prefer the Zf by a longshot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 13:54:04 No.4446667 Report

Quoted By: >>4446670 >>4446672

>>4446666
>nd prefer the Zf by a longshot
how so? size of lenses?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 14:00:08 No.4446670 Report

Quoted By: >>4446674

>>4446667
More responsive, better at collecting light and better image quality I'm guessing. GFX cameras are pretty abysmal outside of a tripod in a studio.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 14:05:44 No.4446672 Report

Quoted By: >>4446674

>>4446667
Early GFX AF is legitimately bad, enough that I preferred using MF, and started using MF lenses instead
Zf is smaller, lighter, one of the best of all time for using MF glass, with very competent AF
Much smaller lens options, and much better options for fast lenses too
Also having used high res cameras for years, I don't need more than the standard 24-26 for most of what I do
For the times I want extreme resolution or bokeh, panostitching and brenizer gets me farther than a GFX every could

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 14:10:07 No.4446674 Report

Quoted By: >>4446738

>>4446670
>>4446672
thanks a lot, I guess zf it is then

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 17:22:07 No.4446725 Report

Quoted By: >>4446728 >>4446730 >>4446738

What's the point of the Panasonic S9?
It has no viewfinder and no shutter, so it's bad for photography.
It's small and has no active heat management, so it's bad for video.
And even though it's compact, the lenses are all big, and because it has a longer flange distance than Sony, there are fuck all 3rd party options.
It's also pretty expensive, so it's not like it appeals to poorfags.

So who is this camera actually for, is it supposed to be a full frame phone camera?
Is there any compelling reason to buy it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 17:27:54 No.4446728 Report

Quoted By: >>4446733

>>4446725
>Is there any compelling reason to buy it?
Fashion, it's for homosexuals.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 17:30:00 No.4446730 Report

Quoted By: >>4446733

>>4446725
it's a fujifilm style "metrosexual hobbyist camera" for upper middle class homosexual men and bored teenage to 20s women

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 17:33:09 No.4446733 Report

Quoted By: >>4446760

>>4446728
>>4446730
So it actually sucks as much as it seems it would?
I only looked into it because one popped up on marketplace cheap, despite being brand new, and I was wondering why the seller hadn't used it.
I was a bit shocked by how bad it looks on paper, and thought there must be some secret to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 17:37:41 No.4446738 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446674
He is kind of shitting you, if you have the money for a 100S
The GFX50 and hasselblad CFV-50C had worse light gathering because they had ancient tech where only a portion of each pixel was sensitive to light, so they needed more exposure to actually get the same image. The only people who should buy ancient MF digital like that are people who know how to leverage superior color depth. The GFX100S is a straight IQ upgrade from full frame in every way.

>>4446725
The point is "glorious L mount alliance" is actually leica telling panasonic and sigma "if you make a compact camera that hurts our sales you are fucking OUT", which ends in them being out, just later. Panasonic is heading the way of the pentax, fast.
>Is there any reason to buy it
Being a self important video autist who thinks the handful of codecs they enabled as an apology for how shit the rest of it is are actually needed by anyone who isn't already preferring a real cinema camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 18:49:30 No.4446760 Report

Quoted By: >>4446761

>>4446733
>So it actually sucks as much as it seems it would?
yes, it's a dead end. GH7 or whatever the FF L-mount equivalent is are vastly more useful outside of rich tiktotkers

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 19:00:53 No.4446761 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446760
>GH7
It's a slow motion video camera with an f8-11 birding zoom that no one wants except for videofags, that's all it really is. It's terrible for everything else.
>FF L mount
Basically everything in this system is garbage. they're 5 years behind nikon and that's saying something
>but they enabled open gate!
No one notices or cares. Panasonic buyers make youtube videos. At best they're used as crash cams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 19:20:32 No.4446766 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446602
Prototypes were already out in testing last year, manufacturing is most likely taking place right now. It is a confirmed rumor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 19:51:46 No.4446769 Report

Quoted By: >>4446782

>>4446602
Pentax literally has to make a K-1 III because sony discontinued the 36mp sensor. It's the company that says they're dedicated to SLRs because they failed to develop a good mirrorless.

Expect basically no relevant improvements (also see: olympus and panasonic) and another re-release of a 90s screw drive lens

>>4446617
Yes, because f4 just removes a little of the 3 stop vignetting from f2.8. The center remains about as bright. They are genuinely terrible lenses.

>>4446645
You have no retort

You are obsessed with sony pancakes and never stopped to realize all the full frame mirrorless pancakes are just bad. Worse than "characterful" chinese lenses. Maybe the real reason you care is because sony has the only bodies that could be pocketable with pancakes? Just buy aps-c lmao, with a 16mm mount depth they basically cant make a pancake without it being even worse than nikons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 20:27:53 No.4446782 Report

Quoted By: >>4446788 >>4446801

>>4446769
>Expect basically no relevant improvements
Lol, it is already confirmed it will have the K-3 MkIII AF system upsized for FF and probably more AF points. The K-1 MkII already had an improved shutter block over the K-1 and the K-3 MkIII had an improved mirror flip mechanism, it is basically comparable to the D500. What is confirmed is basically a D500 with FF sensor and faster processor.

There is an interesting feature not documented on the K-3 MkIII, it uses the lightmeter sensor to help with the tracking of objects. The K-1 also has this feature and has quasi eye-AF. The K-1 MkIII will be peak DSLR.

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 20:32:37 No.4446787 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446521
konica minolta a-sweet/dynax/maxxum 5d

probably my favorite camera

>>4446639

i didn't like mine, horrible dynamic range and auto white balance was always inaccurate

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 20:37:35 No.4446788 Report

Quoted By: >>4446797

>>4446782
great so it'll be comparable to the last nikon/canon dslrs made (d850/5dm4) but it'll cost as much as something like a z7ii/r6m2/a7iv. im not even wishing for mirrorless af im wishing these things had the af capability of dslrs from the same time period

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 21:08:02 No.4446797 Report

Quoted By: >>4446798

>>4446788
If it has 8fps burst I will be happy. I need to know some of the actual specs to decide if I buy a K-3MkIII to complement my K-1 or replace the K-1 entirely with the K-1MkIII. It would be so nice to know the finalized burst rate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 21:10:18 No.4446798 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446797
Also the D-FA 21 Limited.
Man, I am coming down with the GAS hard, hold me bros

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 21:23:19 No.4446801 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446782
The K3-III doesn't focus nearly as quickly or accurately as the d500, pentax salesman man.

>it uses the lightmeter sensor to help with the tracking of objects
Nikon had this on the d750 lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:30:09 No.4446817 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445951
>>4445948
Beautiful. Post more GR snapshits!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:36:48 No.4446821 Report

Quoted By: >>4446824 >>4446825 >>4446835

What mirroless cameras have actually good viewfinders?
I tried a few at a store, and the canon r50/r10 for example, looked like a photo of a laptop from 2007.
The Panasonic S5 was a lot better, but still was pretty laggy and annoying.

The only one that was really acceptable-to-good was the Canon R5, but it's expensive, and the lens selection is shit.
Is there any way to get a decent EVF without spending $2.5k+?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:46:09 No.4446824 Report

Quoted By: >>4446831

>>4446821
Basically all of the ones that say they have nice EVFs but arent expensive either have shit everything else or drop the resolution and refresh rate as soon as you do literally anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:49:12 No.4446825 Report

Quoted By: >>4446831

>>4446821
A purist doesn’t need a viewfinder, he can see the shot without even looking through the camera, accepts that the camera is an imperfect machine and embraces the nature of the divide by merely aiming the camera in the general direction of the scene with a minimum of care or expectation, unburdened by societies insistence that man be subservient to machines. At the end of the shoot, the photographer may discard all or some or none of these images, keep or cut up parts that either remind him of what he experienced in the scene, or just simply likes relating to nothing, and paste them together into inspired images as a painter using his paints. That is the ultimate expression of photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:52:50 No.4446826 Report

Quoted By: >>4446827

6x7 = ~80mp, and 6x9 ~100mp, so

If you only shoot kodak gold 200 ($8 a roll) and pay someone else to dev and scan (~$20/roll)
And the average 100mp medium format camera is $500, including a lens (GW690)
By the time you have taken 800 6x9 photos, you might as well have bought a used gfx100s (and the lens!) off ebay and slapped a grain sim on

Film: If you do not run a darkroom, and intend to use your camera at all, don't bother

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 22:54:52 No.4446827 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446826
cheap color film would actually knock 6x9 down to ~60mp so it's better to compare with the cheaper a7riv (and suddenly "sony bad colors" arent so bad when you use a film sim regardless)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:00:41 No.4446831 Report

Quoted By: >>4446833

>>4446824
>drop the resolution and refresh rate as soon as you do literally anything
That's cancer, I fucking hate shit like this.
It's like those vacuum cleaners that advertise "5hp" but that's actually just the energy the motor draws as it catches fire when massively overdriven.
>>4446825
Lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:13:14 No.4446833 Report

Quoted By: >>4446853

>>4446831
>That's cancer, I fucking hate shit like this.
Welcome to the sorrow of mirrorless

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Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:17:31 No.4446835 Report

Quoted By: >>4446836 >>4446853

>>4446821

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:19:36 No.4446836 Report

Quoted By: >>4446838 >>4446853

>>4446835
No one wants a lumix

They do everything that doesnt matter and nothing that does. Even their pancake lens is such a joke it counts LESS than sony's samyang and viltrox pancakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:23:42 No.4446838 Report

Quoted By: >>4446839

>>4446836
>pancakes
who cares

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:24:50 No.4446839 Report

Quoted By: >>4446896

>>4446838
How about the garbage autofocus they put on bodies costing thousands?
https://www.dpreview.com/articles/3898858708/panasonic-lumix-dc-s1rii-autofocus-summary
This is a $3000 camera, folks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Jul 2025 23:58:16 No.4446853 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446835
>>4446836
>>4446833
Goddamnit, it looks like used R5s are under $1800, but the lenses are so damn expensive, unless you buy the oldest shittiest Tamron/sigma EF lenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 02:44:32 No.4446888 Report

Quoted By:

God I hate trying to buy camera gear on marketplace.
The sellers are actual subhuman retards that list used shit for new prices, and fucked shit as used like new.
Then they get real pissed and offended when you offer them an actually fair price, niggas think they're selling the queen's finest jewelry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 03:19:10 No.4446893 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445820
Wherever you go, you only need to know one thing

Switching to micro four thirds is a form of quitting photography.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 03:29:09 No.4446894 Report

Quoted By: >>4446898 >>4446900 >>4446901 >>4446903 >>4447003

Breaking - red/p/illed gearfag confirms sony a9iii is worse than Z9, D300s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68WJqbJQxJE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 03:33:50 No.4446896 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446839
I'm just saying crying about pancakes is gay. Woman lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 03:49:55 No.4446898 Report

Quoted By: >>4446899

>>4446894
he's balding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 03:55:58 No.4446899 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446898
Using cameras causes baldness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:04:14 No.4446900 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446894
>it might as well be a toblerone
lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:10:46 No.4446901 Report

Quoted By: >>4446905

>>4446894
The eternally out of touch richfag
>hmmm no camera is perfect methinks i will buy a z9 for action and a leica SL3 for non action
>people shooting literally everything with a z5ii: doctor is this man sane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:21:37 No.4446903 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446894
>Camera manufacturer relentlessly shilled by indians and schizos is actually not very good afterall
Shocking

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:34:01 No.4446904 Report

Quoted By: >>4446911 >>4446912

>>4445820
is $1k USD a good price for a like new Zf?
There's a guy selling one locally, and it seems like an OK deal, but it's still a lot of cash to drop on camera.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:35:43 No.4446905 Report

Quoted By: >>4446906

>>4446901
the only richfag worth watching is markuspix and his leathery wife kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXZHMFUSvlg

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 04:37:41 No.4446906 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446905
>I don't shoot RAW, EVER!
My sides!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 05:04:09 No.4446911 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446904
Oy vey where’s your chutzpah? Jump on it
Then resell it for $1500 and buy something cheap

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 05:29:23 No.4446912 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446904
well it's normally more than that so yeah that's a great deal

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 06:18:30 No.4446924 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446583
The viltrox is flat. The Nikon 40mm f2 is one of the best lenses for 3d pop and color representation. It just has a kind of bad build quality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 06:33:57 No.4446928 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446583
>Chink trash
lol no. Dont fall for the Viltrox meme.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 06:47:50 No.4446933 Report

Quoted By: >>4446951 >>4446952 >>4446970 >>4446974 >>4447015

I want a 1ds mk2 for no reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 07:55:45 No.4446951 Report

Quoted By: >>4447094

>>4446933
Do it.

Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw

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Clueless Faggot !LUYtbm.JAw Sun 13 Jul 2025 07:59:55 No.4446952 Report

Quoted By: >>4446970 >>4447011 >>4447020

>>4446933
>Ultimate in blob technology

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 09:52:12 No.4446970 Report

Quoted By: >>4447094

>>4446933
>>4446952
The last gen of DSLRs are actually fine cameras. Like the 5Dmk4 or 1Dmk3. Only thing is used sellers are delusional about these. They always still want like $1k-$2k for these. They should be like $500-$700 max.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 10:18:11 No.4446974 Report

Quoted By: >>4446976 >>4447015

>>4446933
That's weird I actually just bought one a couple weeks ago. Wasn't looking for but it was a super cheap, only 80usd. Was used by sports illustrated when it was new. It's not bad but I still prefer the 5d mark II in terms of image quality.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 10:29:33 No.4446976 Report

Quoted By: >>4447094

>>4446974
The image quality really Isn't bad even when pushed to the limits. My main problem is the dynamic range, I often have to use HDR editing mode in LR to save highlights, which is fine, but for whatever reason HDR editing mode doesn't seem to agree with the files like it does on newer cameras. I've also tried DPP4 but it can't rescue highlights like LR can. The actual dynamic range on the camera is pretty good, considering its age. This could also just be me completely misunderstanding HDR editing mode, so take my advice with a grain of salt. Picrel was at 1600 ISO and has no noise reduction, but I did need to use HDR to bring the highlights down.

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Sun 13 Jul 2025 13:44:21 No.4447003 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446894
>top of the line mirrorless fixed EVF blackout by replacing it with pixelation at the critical moment
>mirrorless feels like holding a toblerone
>mirrorless "smart" AF actually picks up the background instead of the moving bird like a DSLR can do without breaking a sweat
Hilarious, maybe clueless anons will finally wake up and stop disputing that an EVF is a downgrade, that the only thing preventing Sony from being the worst camera brand is the existence of Fuji, that mirrorless ergonomics suck and that EVFs alter the scene.

Sugar !egyYvoBZV2

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Sugar !egyYvoBZV2 Sun 13 Jul 2025 14:28:41 No.4447011 Report

Quoted By: >>4447020

>>4446952

A CHALLENGER APPEARS

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 14:33:35 No.4447015 Report

Quoted By:

>>4446933
>>4446974
It always amazes me that the digital versions of the EOS 1v that use most of the same body panels as the 1v with the same AF system as the 1v are so much cheaper than the 1v. When you compare the Epson RD1 vs the Voigtlander it's based on, the Epson is almost always more expensive, and it's only APS-C. The original 1Ds takes beautiful images, much like the 5D classic and other early large sensor digitals. Same with the 1Ds 2 and the APS-H versions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 14:36:46 No.4447020 Report

Quoted By: >>4447025

>>4446952
>>4447011
isn't D850 straight up superior?

OP Sun 13 Jul 2025 14:38:44 No.4447023 Report

Quoted By: >>4447053

OP here.

After digging around a bit more, I noticed that the XF 23mm f/1.4 LM WR and XF 33mm f/1.4 LM WR might actually be game-changers for my current X-T5 setup - especially in terms of AF performance and sharpness.

Before I go all-in on selling the Fuji kit:
• Anyone here made the switch to these LM primes? Does AF really improve that much compared to the older 23/35 f/2s or f/1.4s?
• Do these lenses put Fuji closer to FF-tier IQ (realistically), or is it still a dead end vs jumping to A7R III/IV or Zf?
• Worth trying these lenses first, or just commit to FF now?

Trying to make the smartest leap - or not leap at all.

Someone also pointed that the XF 23mm f1.4 R LM WR is a better lens than the 33mm. Have a look at the resolution charts from lenstip, comparing 18, 23 and 33:

https://www.lenstip.com/611.4-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_18_mm_f_1.4_R_LM_WR_Image_resolution.html

https://www.lenstip.com/628.4-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_23_mm_f_1.4_R_LM_WR_Image_resolution.html

https://www.lenstip.com/622.4-Lens_review-Fujifilm_Fujinon_XF_33_mm_f_1.4_R_LM_WR_Image_resolution.html

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 14:40:25 No.4447025 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447020
Doesn't the D8xx series straight up have plastic lens mount?

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 16:05:07 No.4447053 Report

Quoted By: >>4447073

>>4447023
I have owned and used most of Fuji's primes. The AF is much better than the older, but only marginally better than the f2s, which are also lm and quite quick already. Picrel is an example IQ wise from the old to new.
The 18 f1.4 and 23 f1.4 WR definitely are in the territory that I don't miss good FF glass when using them. The 33 f1.4 isn't quite there wide open, but is still very good once stopped down. I'd put the 90 f2 and 30 f2.8 macro also in the "don't miss good FF" tier of IQ (but the 30 sucks otherwise). Everything else has just been "good enough" or comparable to mid-low range FF glass.

I'm also one of the posters selling their T5, but I'm still keeping 3 other Fuji bodies and the 23 f1.4 WR and 90 f2 are keepers for sure. I'm getting rid of most the other X-mount glass like the 18 and 33 and replacing with the new Sigma 17-40.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 16:33:14 No.4447073 Report

Quoted By: >>4447084

>>4447053
Would you consider the Zf/Z5 ii? Seems like it gets lots of praise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:09:32 No.4447084 Report

Quoted By: >>4447295

>>4447073
I do have the Zf and use it alongside the T5, and it's definitely part of the reason I'm selling it. There are a lot of things I prefer about the T5, but the Zf is just so much better when it comes to adapted vintage / mf glass for me
I wouldn't hesitate to pickup a Z5II, and if you're thinking about switching nows as good a time as any to sell Fuji, and like as good as the 33mm might be, for like $550 new on sale, the z 50 1.8 s is on another level, also why I'm getting rid of mine (and my 50 f2 apo)
Keeping the old 35 f1.4 for the more unique look and 35 f2 instead

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:13:56 No.4447085 Report

Quoted By: >>4447098 >>4447201

simslop BTFO'd

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:28:37 No.4447094 Report

Quoted By: >>4447208 >>4447209

>>4446951
I just bought a new camera I really don't need one
>>4446970
I don't want it because it's bad. I want it because it's old and has a different aesthetic in its physical use and image quality.
>>4446976
We're spoiled by modern raw files. I think the point of using 20 year old cameras is for the look they give you. You just have to take a 95% good picture in camera.

Alos apparently you can get one of these new lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:29:57 No.4447098 Report

Quoted By: >>4447099

>>4447085
sterotypical boomer opinion. He's mad about how film was more difficult. Zoomers don't remember so they think it's cool

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:30:53 No.4447099 Report

Quoted By: >>4447102

>>4447098
>He's mad about how film was more difficult.
average reading comprehension

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 17:39:25 No.4447102 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447099
my comprehension is perfect. He doesn't like the invocation of film in any way. You are a dimwit for not putting 2 and 2 together

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 20:20:32 No.4447187 Report

Quoted By:

LOL

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 21:29:27 No.4447198 Report

Quoted By: >>4447203

Z6ii or D780? The only digital camera I use (besides GRIII) is Oly E500. Bored of film currently, so looking to get something digital I can abuse. I'm not heavily invested in any digital lens ecosystem, so I'd be willing to consider other options as well.

These were the cameras that I found would fit the bill, since they should be relatively robust and feature good sensors. And based on my research the autofocus on these should work just fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 21:39:07 No.4447201 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447085
>Noooo you cant not spend hours on a computer fixing your white balance!!
Snoy moment

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 21:40:08 No.4447203 Report

Quoted By: >>4447211

>>4447198
Apparently the z6ii has the worst autofocus and it's evil. I use it though and I think it's pretty good so idk

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 21:47:29 No.4447208 Report

Quoted By: >>4447445

>>4447094
Extremely based. What are you going to photograph first?

There's an emotion 75h back with hasselblad adapter for sale on ebay right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 21:48:30 No.4447209 Report

Quoted By: >>4447245

>>4447094
Oh nvm. I thought that's the camera you bought lol

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Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 22:05:50 No.4447211 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447203
Figures. I'll go handle one in a store and see what I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Jul 2025 23:22:03 No.4447245 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447209
haha I just thought it was funny that there are 2 bodies that got left behind. I'll probably get a used one eventually

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Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 00:25:27 No.4447271 Report

Quoted By: >>4447293 >>4447327 >>4447607

Why are they still so expensive? The AF is horrible, its unironically big and clunky even compared to other DSLRs, and they're built like shit (broken hotshoes, bad PASM dials, Pentax repair/support doesn't outside of Japan)

K-1II goes for $1100-1300. I think I can get a a7c/a7iii for less money and the D810 is like $6-700 used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 01:02:15 No.4447293 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447271
it costs a lot because they don't sell any. SOme demands but shit supply

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 01:21:29 No.4447295 Report

Quoted By: >>4447297

>>4447084
/p/ gear arguments got another one

we're great at making everyone just quit gear :'(

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 01:32:19 No.4447297 Report

Quoted By: >>4448362

>>4447295
that's because all cameras are bad so you might as well just pick what you like

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE

cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Mon 14 Jul 2025 03:30:25 No.4447327 Report

Quoted By: >>4447339

>>4447271
Because people are waking up to the joy of reflex. The Nikon is awesome - unless you intend to adapt vintage lenses. And the K-1 even has IBIS, you can shoot an stabilized Kilfitt 300 Tele Kilar if you so desire, or a Zeiss zebra, or whatever you want. K-1 is an endgame camera and very friendly to the manual photography enthusiast. Have I told you about green button metering yet? What about pixel shift? Now, if you're a working photographer it might not be the camera for you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 03:35:15 No.4447328 Report

Quoted By:

>>4445820
get an x-t2

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 04:25:37 No.4447339 Report

Quoted By: >>4448362 >>4448550

>>4447327
Jfc this guy has the worst takes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 08:41:55 No.4447363 Report

Quoted By:

Recs for a decently light and compact weather sealed zoom lens for M43? I want a walk around all purpose zoom

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 16:34:32 No.4447445 Report

Quoted By: >>4447732

>>4447208
We know you're talking to yourself anon. Nobody else cares about early-digital DSLRs except you for the last few weeks.

They're the worst deal you can get. Worse than the last gen of analog and worse than early mirrorless. Early digital is truly the worst of them all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 22:46:10 No.4447607 Report

Quoted By: >>4447611

>>4447271
I’m kinda tempted to get this beast as my next purchase. What are the /p/ approved prime lenses? I like manual focus but any reccs would be appreciated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Jul 2025 23:16:19 No.4447611 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447607
Dunno about /p/ approved but the DA 40/2.8 and DA 35/2.4 are FF compatible. I like and use the FA 43/1.9 a lot and heard good things about the FA 77/1.8 and D-FA 100/2.8 Macro.
The DA* 55/1.4 is not fully FF compatible but close enough and the FA 50/1.4 is cheap but softish wide open. Then there are the D-FA* 50/1.4 and D-FA* 85/1.4 which are superb lenses with the appropriate pricetag.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2025 08:17:01 No.4447732 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447445
>t. doesn't understand exposure so shoots on an auto mode and cried when le 5d classic blew highlights

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2025 08:26:40 No.4447733 Report

Quoted By: >>4447736

What's the cheapest mirrorless APS-C body with IBIS I should search for? I'm not invested in any mount yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2025 10:05:36 No.4447736 Report

Quoted By: >>4447750

>>4447733
a7sii
>but it's fool frame
you can still use aps-c lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2025 13:07:44 No.4447750 Report

Quoted By: >>4447773

>>4447736
>you can still use aps-c lenses
If you're fine with a whopping 5.4mp. Also it has shit contrast detect AF. An A7R II could be had for the same price and would be vastly superior and give you an actually usable 18mp in crop mode.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 15 Jul 2025 14:41:47 No.4447773 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447750
My normal zoom lens (16-50) is APS-C but I have 16MP with APS-C crop. 32MP FF.
APS-C crop is no problem granted you have the pickles to begin with. A7SII is retard level suggestion for this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 08:30:44 No.4448160 Report

Quoted By: >>4448163 >>4448207

Could it be that Hasselblads X-System and Fujis GFX system are more related than just using the same sensor?

The lenses they offer have a suspicious large overlap in focal lengths and apertures. For both the very wide lens is exactly a 20-35. For both the only lens with very wide aperture is exactly the 80mm - not the 90, neither makes a 85, exactly the 80. Most suspicious is: for both the only macro is exactly a 120.

It's not just the same sensor. The whole XCD ecosystem is just a fucking rebrand, isn't it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 08:58:19 No.4448163 Report

Quoted By:

>>4448160
made all in the same province of China

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 12:59:27 No.4448207 Report

Quoted By: >>4448263

>>4448160
It's just common focal lengths for MF
The x system is designed around leaf shutter lenses, and GFX is not
The hasseblad H system on the other hand is a 100% direct rebranding of Fuji manufactured lenses

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 13:49:52 No.4448263 Report

Quoted By: >>4448277 >>4449680

>>4448207
> It's just common focal lengths for MF
Not true, neither have a real 50mm (except fujis pancrap which of course Hassy wouldn't want), both have an 80 and a 90 but no more common 85. 120 macro isn't common either, that would be a weird coincidence.

>The x system is designed around leaf shutter lenses, and GFX is not
that's true. Also Hasselblads unique octogon aperture. But I still think the glass elements must be the same but rehoused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 14:29:59 No.4448277 Report

Quoted By:

>>4448263
80, 90, and 120 are all very common MF focal lengths and there are several 120mm macros

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Jul 2025 20:32:35 No.4448362 Report

Quoted By: >>4448550

>>4447297
>that's because all cameras are good so you might as well just pick what you like
ftfy
>>4447339
/p/ only becomes minimally usable once you filter canon and cinefag. i think they were both banned for the better part of the year so it wasn't so obvious until recently

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cANON !!oKsYTZ4HHVE Thu 17 Jul 2025 13:13:15 No.4448550 Report

Quoted By:

>>4447339
>>4448362
>sincerely, a fujislug
Kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jul 2025 02:55:56 No.4449680 Report

Quoted By:

>>4448263
did you read "MF" and think "FF"

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Anonymous Sun 20 Jul 2025 19:25:45 No.4449987 Report

Quoted By: >>4449988 >>4450073 >>4450225

What is the difference between a macro and a telephoto lens? I want to shoot far away, but the kit lens was also too short to get close ups unless I zoomed with my feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jul 2025 19:28:08 No.4449988 Report

Quoted By: >>4450073 >>4450225

>>4449987
I forgot, what does the MM actually translate to in practical use? If this is a 18-55 and taken at 55, what would a 70-300 or 400-800 actually mean in terms of power? Is going from 55 to 110 doubling the zoom if it's the same type of lense on the same camera?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Jul 2025 21:56:07 No.4450073 Report

Quoted By: >>4450225

>>4449987
>>4449988
A lens can be one or the other or both. A macro lens is one that allows you to focus closely, resulting in your subject taking up more of the frame and being more magnified.

A telephoto is one with a long focal length, or a higher number before the mm (which if you didn't know stands for millimetres). At what point a lens becomes telephoto (ignoring the technical definition) can vary slightly from person to person, and also changes based on the sensor size of your camera. Generally speaking it's anything longer than around the diagonal dimension of the sensor, so longer than about 50mm for full frame, longer than 35mm for APS-C, longer than 25mm for a four thirds camera, etc.

Combining these two, a longer more telephoto lens that is also a macro lens will allow you to get high magnification on your subject while also being further away from it, because it will be more "zoomed in". For simplicity's sake that's what the focal length means, a longer focal length gives you a tighter field of view that is more zoomed in. Double the focal length and you're basically cropping a quarter off each side of the image, or you can double your distance from your subject and get essentially the same photo (not exactly, but again we're simplifying things).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Jul 2025 02:46:47 No.4450225 Report

Quoted By:

>>4449987
>>4450073
>ignoring the technical definition
ree
but also you can have a macro-focusing lens that is also a telephoto (according to the technical definition)
particularly if your camera focuses using bellows, then every lens is a macro lens
"macro lens" as a special category is an artifact of fixed-barrel systems
>>4449988
>Is going from 55 to 110 doubling the zoom
yes basically, until you start getting into very wide/short lenses, then the rule of thumb breaks down and you have to do trigonometry
"have to" if exact angle is important but honestly it never is
also that only holds true for rectilinear lenses, they still use mm focal lengths for fisheye lenses but it isn't comparable (would be better if they used degrees instead)

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